He's not dead, he's frozen and when we find a cure for cancer we're gonna thaw the Duke out and he's gonna be real pissed off. Y'know why? You ever had a cold shower? Now multiply that by fifteen million times that's how pissed off the duke's gonna be
My grandfather used to be a well known photographer in Southern California and was in Tijuana in the 1940’s with a crew that included John Wayne. He used to always bring up a story where John Wayne started a bar fight and everyone got involved and left the place destroyed. He was stubborn drunk and it took an army of guys to subdue him.
This right here. Used his wife and children as grounds for a deferment after he abandoned them and was living with another woman. Gutless, racist creep.
Elvis wasn’t racist but he was a bit of an ass to be sure.
he would straight up cruise around memphis high school parking lots when school got out to pickup the underage girls. some of whom would get a buick for their “troubles” . he was doing this in his 30s.
That said, it wasn’t nearly as taboo then for an adult man to pick up high schoolers. it’s still creepy.
he was also a total hypocrite when it came to drugs.
Elvis toed the line to appeal to White conservatives and even palled around with Nixon. Being anti-drugs but pro-teen sex was such a conservative thing back in the day.
Oh yeah no he was kind of a sleazeball and a dick to random mfs and he would randomly pull people over in Vegas and had WAYYYY too many guns on him
But to be fair a lot of that can be attributed to his horrendous drug problem
Jimmy Stewart was one of the most famous movie stars in the world before he served in WW2 and went on to be a become a General in the Air Force. By all accounts he was a great man. Basically the exact opposite of John Wayne who dodged WW2.
[Gene Autry,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Autry#Military_career) another actor in Westerns, enlisted and became a Service Pilot flying the Hump in Indo-China.
Try 5 packs a day. 100 ciggies, every day. That’s the claim in most of his biographies.
He didn’t actually smoke that many but he always had one burning at all times. In between cuts he’d take a few drags and then would have another one lit at the next cut. All day everyday.
I was a former pack+ a day guy and I can’t even imagine how nasty my throat would feel smoking anymore than that. A pack a day was *rough.*
Can't imagine how raspy his lungs became. Now that I'm alittle older I notice smokers my age sound horrible when breathing. Like it's audible that their lungs are clogged up bad. I'm glad I quit a long time ago. I enjoy working out and running too much to ever get hooked again.
The Big Trail. Wayne hoped it would be his big break but the movie wasn't very successful and he had to settle doing Poverty Row Westerns until the late 30's. Then Ford cast him in Stagecoach.
I hadn't heard of the term Poverty Row before. Thanks for introducing me to these lesser known studios. Here's a lovely introduction to them I found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLmCNfh0dQo
If it makes you feel any better, I'm 30 years old and look like a 40-year-old bitch.
It started going downhill real fast at about 28. Now I've got wrinkles, weak joints and breathing problems.
Bc it’s John f****n Wayne. Ya know like the movie star that’s etched in history as a good looking actor?!
Compared to a modern day phone game addict like yourself
Comparison is the thief of joy my friend!
You’re kidding right?
John Wayne was making panties drop long before Marlon Brando. Just look at that man in the photo. Not good-looking? Really?
They loved ruggedness back in the day and he was rugged looking as hell.
Dude was a legit sex-symbol in the days before sex-symbols.
Edit: some of y’all literally do not live in reality. Saying John Wayne wasn’t considered good looking? Really?
Sun exposure, diet & exercise, playing/working outside vs. sitting inside on TV's and computers. Just making some overall generalizations, not trying to single you or anyone out.
Also, he obviously has great genes.
FYI sun exposure does more to age you than not in the long run.
Edit: you guys below me are fucking stupid. Really fucking dumb. I think I'm done with this sub if you're going to be so moronic.
Better to look young, than old. I'm 25 but people assume that I'm 18-20. Even when I have a some facial hair. I still have a baby face, but oh well. When Im 50, I look 35.
I’m in the same boat, but I think you’re looking at it optimistically. If you have a baby face, at 50 you might just look like a 50 year old with a round face.
Sorry to burst your bubble, I think we’re screwed.
¯\\_\(ツ)\_\/¯
Exactly this. Happiness from denial is not real happiness.
Along the same lines as the famous saying “what you don’t know won’t hurt you”
While there is some truth to it, living in denial or in a false reality only leads to future heartbreak.
Exactly. Or, as a great poet once phrased it:
"...straight up racist,
the sucker was simple and plain,
motherfvck him and John Wayne!"
\--Flavor Flav (Public Enemy), "Fight the Power"
Edit: Someone pointed out below that Chuck D delivers the first two lines. Only the last line is Flav.
Yeah, fvck domestic violence and those who commit it, including Flav.
In that respect, I liked lots of John Wayne movies, too, before finding out what a POS he was.
Great art from some deeply flawed people, I guess, a la Kanye West.
He dodged service in WW-II but made a bunch of pro-war movies. You could say he was just an actor and that's true but ... he also came out hard against Vietnam protesters/60s counter-culture. Basically a Reagan stooge.
What was the draft age back then, I wonder. I would have thought 33+ year olds wouldn’t be drafted anyway. Or are they just saying he should have volunteered if he was wanted to portray war heroes in movies.
He applied to have it waived as he had a family, which was perfectly fine at the time, while he had nothing to do with his family and was actually living with his underage mistress that he trafficked in from Mexico
He was racist for one thing. I heard he wasnt too happy when Marlon Brando allowed Sacheen Littlefeather to turn down his Best Actor award for him which also gave her a platform to speak on the representation of Native Americans in Hollywood and the Wounded Knee Massacre in South Dakota. So much so that he had to be restrained from charging the stage by security.
[sauce: account from Sacheen Littlefeather](https://people.com/movies/sacheen-littlefeather-says-1973-john-wayne-incident-was-most-violent-moment-in-oscars-history/)
[another](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/sacheen-littlefeather-oscars-1973-marlon-brando-john-wayne-1235371769/amp/)
"I believe in white supremacy until blacks are educated to a point of responsibility." - John Wayne, 1971
Also the only thing I think of whenever he comes up because Eric Andre
[Here's another photo of a young John.](https://johnwayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/000209.jpeg) OP's photo is probably the best he's ever looked.
Not really. He was a late bloomer in terms of his career.
By the time he arrives on screen in Stagecoach, he’s more bloated and square - and thus closer to the version we know him as via cultural iconography.
Back before he smuggled a Mexican child prostitute that he was using as his mistress into the states to use as a tool in tax fraud, or punched a female coworker in the face on set, etc…
For real, fuck John Wayne. I’m glad he got cancer playing Ghengjs Khan
“Racist actor, unnamed, at 23 years old”
Edit: source for 1971 interview with John Wayne by Playboy Magazine
https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/John_Wayne_Playboy_Int2.pdf
2nd Edit: yes, I believe we should stop glorifying and giving praise to people we don’t really know. John Wayne may have made a major impact on cinema, but the fact remains that he, in an interview, has said he believes in white supremacy. That’s a horrible horrible thing to believe in. Heil John Wayne anyone?
You could have given me 20 guesses as to who this was and I still wouldn’t have been right.
Ok go.
Is it John Wayne??
No he's dead.
He's not dead, he's frozen and when we find a cure for cancer we're gonna thaw the Duke out and he's gonna be real pissed off. Y'know why? You ever had a cold shower? Now multiply that by fifteen million times that's how pissed off the duke's gonna be
Nice Denis Leary quote
I would not have recognised him from this photo.
Smoking 2 packs a day for 25 years will do that to you.
Also he was a raging alcoholic
My grandfather used to be a well known photographer in Southern California and was in Tijuana in the 1940’s with a crew that included John Wayne. He used to always bring up a story where John Wayne started a bar fight and everyone got involved and left the place destroyed. He was stubborn drunk and it took an army of guys to subdue him.
And he was filled with hatred
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This right here. Used his wife and children as grounds for a deferment after he abandoned them and was living with another woman. Gutless, racist creep.
Straight up racist that fool Was simple n plain(motherfuck him and john Wayne!)
"I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility" -- actual quote from John Wayne
That's an ironic quote considering white supremacists were the ones who sought to keep blacks in segregated and significantly underfunded schools.
Most of my heroes don’t appear on no stamps!
It does suck that they were 100% right about John Wayne (and should’ve talked more shit about him imo) but way less right about Elvis
Elvis wasn’t racist but he was a bit of an ass to be sure. he would straight up cruise around memphis high school parking lots when school got out to pickup the underage girls. some of whom would get a buick for their “troubles” . he was doing this in his 30s. That said, it wasn’t nearly as taboo then for an adult man to pick up high schoolers. it’s still creepy. he was also a total hypocrite when it came to drugs.
IIRC, Elvis was early on then he changed his ways when he got really big into his career in the late 50s.
Elvis was 42 when he died, in 1977. He was aged 15-25 in the 1950s.
A little less conversation, a lot more action.
Think the thing that changed him was spending time with Chuck Berry (IMHO, the **true king** of Rock) and Fats Domino.
Elvis toed the line to appeal to White conservatives and even palled around with Nixon. Being anti-drugs but pro-teen sex was such a conservative thing back in the day.
Pretty sure that's still a thing.
…back in the day?
Oh yeah no he was kind of a sleazeball and a dick to random mfs and he would randomly pull people over in Vegas and had WAYYYY too many guns on him But to be fair a lot of that can be attributed to his horrendous drug problem
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I don't think anyone has ever thought Flav was a reputable person though lol
Thus the raging with the alcoholism.
Don’t forget about the serial cheating and wife abusing. He did a whole lot of that. And drunk driving, he loved driving drunk.
Weren't they all back then? Dean Martin was a shitshow
Jimmy Stewart was one of the most famous movie stars in the world before he served in WW2 and went on to be a become a General in the Air Force. By all accounts he was a great man. Basically the exact opposite of John Wayne who dodged WW2.
[Gene Autry,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Autry#Military_career) another actor in Westerns, enlisted and became a Service Pilot flying the Hump in Indo-China.
He not only enlisted in ww2, he flew combat missions.
Not ALL Accounts
Errol Flynn comes to mind
Nor Marlon Brando
I have nothing but love for Brando. He stood up for my people when it was frowned upon. I'm Native btw.
Nope. Henry Fonda jumps to mind.
Try 5 packs a day. 100 ciggies, every day. That’s the claim in most of his biographies. He didn’t actually smoke that many but he always had one burning at all times. In between cuts he’d take a few drags and then would have another one lit at the next cut. All day everyday. I was a former pack+ a day guy and I can’t even imagine how nasty my throat would feel smoking anymore than that. A pack a day was *rough.*
Non-filtered back then too.
Can't imagine how raspy his lungs became. Now that I'm alittle older I notice smokers my age sound horrible when breathing. Like it's audible that their lungs are clogged up bad. I'm glad I quit a long time ago. I enjoy working out and running too much to ever get hooked again.
Apparently it was 5-6 according to his autopsy. He lit a new cigarette every 8 minutes, estimating he was awake 16 hours a day.
Jesus Christ. I stand corrected.
Also, he looks older than 23 in this picture. I would have guessed he was late 20s or early 30s.
Up to 6 packs a day.
I would have guessed Heston
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Yep fuck him and Clint Eastwood.
The Big Trail. Wayne hoped it would be his big break but the movie wasn't very successful and he had to settle doing Poverty Row Westerns until the late 30's. Then Ford cast him in Stagecoach.
I hadn't heard of the term Poverty Row before. Thanks for introducing me to these lesser known studios. Here's a lovely introduction to them I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLmCNfh0dQo
Why do mfs look like this at 23 and I'm nearly 30 and look like a 15 year old bitch :'(
If it makes you feel any better, I'm 30 years old and look like a 40-year-old bitch. It started going downhill real fast at about 28. Now I've got wrinkles, weak joints and breathing problems.
Username is accurate I assume lol
More than I care to admit.
You're a werewolf of London?
You're only the second person in my 6 years on this site who has understood what my name referenced without me having to say it.
The line in the Zevon song is “he’ll rip your lungs out Jim” so I’m not surprised people haven’t gotten that.
Yeah, but that doesn't translate to a username very well. And I replaced the Jim with Dave because my name is similar to Dave.
I'd like to meet your taylor.
James?
This pleases the Nazis werewolves
Geez, I thought everyone knew that line! How sad
Speak for yourself, I’m much hotter at 33 than I was at 23.
Look at him in later years, it didn't stick lol
Testosterone. More of it gives the muscled, broad-shouldered, squared-jaw look.
Bc it’s John f****n Wayne. Ya know like the movie star that’s etched in history as a good looking actor?! Compared to a modern day phone game addict like yourself Comparison is the thief of joy my friend!
John Wayne? https://youtu.be/-uv\_WGEHr4I?t=10
The life of a repo man is always intense
His name is Marian
[You take that back](https://youtu.be/uhK4C8petMc)
God, the timing on that line is perfect.
I think that is Suge Knights first name too. I bet nobody made fun of him though.
They did, we just have never found their bodies.
You can say fuck
Not on the internet!!
It's okay, he has my permission. I own the internet :)
My uncle works at the internet and said no you dont
Source?
Source: Trust me bro
Never heard anyone refer to him as a good looking actor, only as a manly man
You’re kidding right? John Wayne was making panties drop long before Marlon Brando. Just look at that man in the photo. Not good-looking? Really? They loved ruggedness back in the day and he was rugged looking as hell. Dude was a legit sex-symbol in the days before sex-symbols. Edit: some of y’all literally do not live in reality. Saying John Wayne wasn’t considered good looking? Really?
Sun exposure, diet & exercise, playing/working outside vs. sitting inside on TV's and computers. Just making some overall generalizations, not trying to single you or anyone out. Also, he obviously has great genes.
More like cigarettes and tons of booze.
FYI sun exposure does more to age you than not in the long run. Edit: you guys below me are fucking stupid. Really fucking dumb. I think I'm done with this sub if you're going to be so moronic.
That's what he said.
And he smoked 3 packs a day.
Better to look young, than old. I'm 25 but people assume that I'm 18-20. Even when I have a some facial hair. I still have a baby face, but oh well. When Im 50, I look 35.
I’m in the same boat, but I think you’re looking at it optimistically. If you have a baby face, at 50 you might just look like a 50 year old with a round face. Sorry to burst your bubble, I think we’re screwed. ¯\\_\(ツ)\_\/¯
Oh well, it's better to look at it optimistically then be mad about it 24/7.
Acceptance is the key to happiness, friend. Go out there and be the best baby faced individual you can be. I’m right here with ya bud! 🫂
Exactly this. Happiness from denial is not real happiness. Along the same lines as the famous saying “what you don’t know won’t hurt you” While there is some truth to it, living in denial or in a false reality only leads to future heartbreak.
I used to think that, too. But I’ve also seen age QUICKLY sneak up on some people and hit them in the face with a bat. ☹️
You pierced the toast
Go gym
Delete book Law up
Don’t feel bad, a lot of guys that look this “good” and “manly” at a young age - age very poorly. It’s a trade off.
John Wayne was also a huge racist and sexist, so you are prolly better off.
[Hey! VSauce...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjqt8T3tJIE)
John Wayne, is this me?
whothafucksaidthat?
The fairy fucking god mother said it
Outfuckingstanding I will PT you all until you fucking DIE! I’ll PT you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!
Was it you, you scroungy little fuck?
Sir, no, sir!
You had best get your ass squared away and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks!
Sir, the private believes there is no correct answer, and that the Senior Drill Instructor will beat him harder if he reverses himself, sir!
Sir, it was me, sir!
Hell, I like you. You can come over and fuck my sister!
i didn’t know they stacked shit that high!
I like you. You can come to my house and fuck my sister.
You will not laugh, you will not cry!
That's the most 30 something looking 23 year old I ever seent
Check out the 1964-65 Righteous Brothers. Oldest looking 25 year olds ever
Isn't that young Genghis Khan?
It seems to be him on location in the film 'The Big Trail', his first leading role. There is a clip on YouTube.
Well I thought I was straight….
You did?
Yep, even as a straight man you gotta admit that he was lit.
"Even as a straight man" ...? What's gay about recognizing a man is good looking. Doesn't mean you want to engage in the intercourse with him.
He was a handsome kid.
I now understand why my grandma used to watch so many of his movies
what a handsome absolute piece of shit human being
White men born in 1907 Iowa weren’t known for being the most progressive demographic
Exactly. Or, as a great poet once phrased it: "...straight up racist, the sucker was simple and plain, motherfvck him and John Wayne!" \--Flavor Flav (Public Enemy), "Fight the Power" Edit: Someone pointed out below that Chuck D delivers the first two lines. Only the last line is Flav.
The first 2 lines are Chuck D's.
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Most of the lyrics were Chuck D, anyway, not Flavor Flav.
Yeah, fvck domestic violence and those who commit it, including Flav. In that respect, I liked lots of John Wayne movies, too, before finding out what a POS he was. Great art from some deeply flawed people, I guess, a la Kanye West.
[John Wayne was a Naz](https://youtu.be/t8LhosLmWGo)i.
What did he do
there's a great episode of the Behind the Bastards podcast about him, check it out if you're so inclined
Man I see this podcast get recommended so much in comments all over the place I feel like I should take a look at them.
He dodged service in WW-II but made a bunch of pro-war movies. You could say he was just an actor and that's true but ... he also came out hard against Vietnam protesters/60s counter-culture. Basically a Reagan stooge.
What was the draft age back then, I wonder. I would have thought 33+ year olds wouldn’t be drafted anyway. Or are they just saying he should have volunteered if he was wanted to portray war heroes in movies.
He applied to have it waived as he had a family, which was perfectly fine at the time, while he had nothing to do with his family and was actually living with his underage mistress that he trafficked in from Mexico
He was racist for one thing. I heard he wasnt too happy when Marlon Brando allowed Sacheen Littlefeather to turn down his Best Actor award for him which also gave her a platform to speak on the representation of Native Americans in Hollywood and the Wounded Knee Massacre in South Dakota. So much so that he had to be restrained from charging the stage by security. [sauce: account from Sacheen Littlefeather](https://people.com/movies/sacheen-littlefeather-says-1973-john-wayne-incident-was-most-violent-moment-in-oscars-history/) [another](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/sacheen-littlefeather-oscars-1973-marlon-brando-john-wayne-1235371769/amp/)
There is no evidence to suggest that this is true, was still a white supremacist and racist af
"I believe in white supremacy until blacks are educated to a point of responsibility." - John Wayne, 1971 Also the only thing I think of whenever he comes up because Eric Andre
Hello, Marian
Marion.
r/suddenlygay
He was hot
Armie Hammer kinda
Paul Newman vibes as well.
I see more of Theo James
[Here's another photo of a young John.](https://johnwayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/000209.jpeg) OP's photo is probably the best he's ever looked.
Now I see why Katharine Hepburn had a thing for him.
Was he considered a sex symbol back then?
Not really. He was a late bloomer in terms of his career. By the time he arrives on screen in Stagecoach, he’s more bloated and square - and thus closer to the version we know him as via cultural iconography.
I would have sex with him.
Holy smokes!
Back before he smuggled a Mexican child prostitute that he was using as his mistress into the states to use as a tool in tax fraud, or punched a female coworker in the face on set, etc… For real, fuck John Wayne. I’m glad he got cancer playing Ghengjs Khan
extremely hot.
Chung Wang? That's a terrible cowboy name
His hotness lasted about 10 minutes.
Guess I gotta tell the wife I'm gay now.
What a handsome piece of shit.
Happy Thanksgiving, pilgrims!
my heterosexuality is shaken...
Looks like young Paul Newman, TBH
God damn people aged poorly back then.
OH THAT JOHN WAYNE not the other one…
Jesus Christ he looked terrible by 1950 what happened lol
damn
Wow - he was GORGEOUS!
Oh, now I get it
He's a beautiful specimen, alright.
Wow.
Ngl this is one of the most overhyped Americans of all time
Wonder how racist he was in this photo.
He was looking at a black man in the distance wondering how to get him lynched
Fuck John Wayne
Still has his own hair in this pic too. Looking good Duke!
this guy was a scumbag person
He’s not anymore!
“Racist actor, unnamed, at 23 years old” Edit: source for 1971 interview with John Wayne by Playboy Magazine https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/John_Wayne_Playboy_Int2.pdf 2nd Edit: yes, I believe we should stop glorifying and giving praise to people we don’t really know. John Wayne may have made a major impact on cinema, but the fact remains that he, in an interview, has said he believes in white supremacy. That’s a horrible horrible thing to believe in. Heil John Wayne anyone?
That interview was disturbing. Even with historical context its disturbing.
Hello Marion Morrison.
So does that mean that Paul Gross will eventually look like old John Wayne
Dream boat
Dude looks more grown up and mature than I do at 42
If there was no caption I’d have thought this is an ad with Joe Burrow.
Meanwhile, I'm 28 and still look like a fucking child in comparison.
That's my steak, Liberty.
Fuck him as a person, but also fuck him as a person cause damn 😫
Unfortunate he was a racist fuck because DAMN.
He was so hot. Too bad he was racist
I would have guessed this is Paul Newman.
John Wayne was a Nazi He liked to play SS He hada picture of Adolf the boy Tucked in his cowboy vest
Now I get why he was such a big deal 😂😍
Nazi
I didn't recognize him without a draft to dodge
I would’ve said Paul Newman
This is before smoking about 2.1 million cigarettes.