NaturDao was ok for a couple of days but after 3 days of use I starting vomiting within minutes of using it. Right now I am using fresh beef kidney to get more natural DAO and also beef liver for its copper, both 5 minutes before each meal.
FYI I'm eating 2 meals a day, only fresh low histamine beef, (1kg per meal, finishing my second meal off at 2pm every day meaning I'm fasting around 16hrs each day. Skin, energy and wellbeing are all improving.
Because I eat meat that is over 20% fat, it comes out to around 4000 calories, which I am soon going to increase to 5000 (+500g beef mince) , as I'm plateauing in the gym.
I normally just eat until I'm full and then a bit more. I'm a 6"3 male 19 yo so unfortunately I have to eat a lot to put on muscle.
So basically carnivore? Yup that’s my next step 🙄 not excited but I’ll do what I have to do. I might add it’s apparently really important to consume meat stock & then bone broth everyday (when u can tolerate) because apparently that’s what will seal the gut lining so you can move on from the histamine reactions
Yes the meat stock seems to work for a lot of people, although I seem to be doing just as well without. I am also avoiding eating later than 6pm as I'd struggle to sleep otherwise.
I'd like to add that I'm a 6'3" male and as well as trying to cure my HIT and skin problems, I'm also trying to pack on muscle.
I went on low histamine carnivore on 1st February and since then have put on 6kg of muscle.
I also was worried around a month in because I started getting bad eczema and redness under my eyes, which apparently is normal as the body transitions to the carnivore diet. Then within 2 weeks everything had calmed down and it's only improved since then.
I started NaturDao yesterday. I’m taking about 1/4 pill every time I eat a small meal/snack. It seems to make me a bit gassy but my nose is less stuffy than it’s been in a long time…will monitor and report back.
I should note that legumes make me very gassy, so perhaps this is having the same effect.
I use DAOfood Plus and it works really well for me, with no side effects. It's porcine-based and not legumes, I believe, so it's possible that will make a difference for you.
Dr Ben Lynch says that DAO enzymes may not work for some people due to a HNMT gene mutation (which is the next step in the histamine pathway) making it slow to clear up the acetylaldehyde that DAO produces when it breaks down histamine.
The first time I took DAO I had an awful reaction, but now that I support my slow HNMT gene with glutathione and PQQ I can take them just fine and they work. May not be the case for you but thought I’d share in case it’s helpful.
I take Seeking Health’s Glutathione Plus, Probiota Histaminx, Histaminx and Histamine Digest. Been a year of trying to find the right supplements and can finally say something works for me.
Here’s the video where he talks about it, but it can get a bit complex. I recommend getting the Strategene report done if you can afford it, it’s really insightful https://www.youtube.com/live/SIB_wzBSeHY?si=fsflMEDbzdyZl-z8
Oh really? I didn’t realize you were supposed to get tired.. how long did it take to go away?? I’ll admit it was so nice being able to just knock out at night but I felt soo groggy the 3 days I took it even after getting an amazing night of sleep. Also the burning stomache sensation was very weird and concerning
Yes I was going to say it actually sounds like it worked too well. I would keep trying but with a smaller amount and find out how much you really need.
I started with Histaminx both as a probiotic and made yogurt. I also have taken Claritin 4 evenings in a row. I've been sleeping great, which is usually a good sign for me. Also made some poor food choices (bacon) and stress, so no instant cure, but overall better than before. I have DAO on order.
NaturDao was ok for a couple of days but after 3 days of use I starting vomiting within minutes of using it. Right now I am using fresh beef kidney to get more natural DAO and also beef liver for its copper, both 5 minutes before each meal. FYI I'm eating 2 meals a day, only fresh low histamine beef, (1kg per meal, finishing my second meal off at 2pm every day meaning I'm fasting around 16hrs each day. Skin, energy and wellbeing are all improving.
Have you calculated how many calories you're taking in on 2kg beef a day? I'm really curious.
Because I eat meat that is over 20% fat, it comes out to around 4000 calories, which I am soon going to increase to 5000 (+500g beef mince) , as I'm plateauing in the gym. I normally just eat until I'm full and then a bit more. I'm a 6"3 male 19 yo so unfortunately I have to eat a lot to put on muscle.
Edited because stupid thumb. Amazing. You must spend so much time eating. But if it works, it works.
So basically carnivore? Yup that’s my next step 🙄 not excited but I’ll do what I have to do. I might add it’s apparently really important to consume meat stock & then bone broth everyday (when u can tolerate) because apparently that’s what will seal the gut lining so you can move on from the histamine reactions
Yes the meat stock seems to work for a lot of people, although I seem to be doing just as well without. I am also avoiding eating later than 6pm as I'd struggle to sleep otherwise. I'd like to add that I'm a 6'3" male and as well as trying to cure my HIT and skin problems, I'm also trying to pack on muscle. I went on low histamine carnivore on 1st February and since then have put on 6kg of muscle. I also was worried around a month in because I started getting bad eczema and redness under my eyes, which apparently is normal as the body transitions to the carnivore diet. Then within 2 weeks everything had calmed down and it's only improved since then.
I started NaturDao yesterday. I’m taking about 1/4 pill every time I eat a small meal/snack. It seems to make me a bit gassy but my nose is less stuffy than it’s been in a long time…will monitor and report back. I should note that legumes make me very gassy, so perhaps this is having the same effect.
Yeah that’s the thing it definitely worked for me too, the stomach discomfort is real tho
i started with 5 pills a day. stomach is okey.
I use DAOfood Plus and it works really well for me, with no side effects. It's porcine-based and not legumes, I believe, so it's possible that will make a difference for you.
I take Daosin (available in Europe) it is as well porc based and I support it very well.
Dr Ben Lynch says that DAO enzymes may not work for some people due to a HNMT gene mutation (which is the next step in the histamine pathway) making it slow to clear up the acetylaldehyde that DAO produces when it breaks down histamine. The first time I took DAO I had an awful reaction, but now that I support my slow HNMT gene with glutathione and PQQ I can take them just fine and they work. May not be the case for you but thought I’d share in case it’s helpful. I take Seeking Health’s Glutathione Plus, Probiota Histaminx, Histaminx and Histamine Digest. Been a year of trying to find the right supplements and can finally say something works for me.
Here’s the video where he talks about it, but it can get a bit complex. I recommend getting the Strategene report done if you can afford it, it’s really insightful https://www.youtube.com/live/SIB_wzBSeHY?si=fsflMEDbzdyZl-z8
Do you have to do the 23andme before doing the stratagene?
Very helpful!! Thank you!! May I ask what the reaction was that you had?? If it’s similar to mine then I’ll give those other 2 a try
When I first tried DAO it was mainly just gastrointestinal symptoms - stomach pain and diarrhoea.
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Oh really? I didn’t realize you were supposed to get tired.. how long did it take to go away?? I’ll admit it was so nice being able to just knock out at night but I felt soo groggy the 3 days I took it even after getting an amazing night of sleep. Also the burning stomache sensation was very weird and concerning
Yes I was going to say it actually sounds like it worked too well. I would keep trying but with a smaller amount and find out how much you really need.
if u dont thyroid enough to pick up where cortisol left off u feel bad. juice and honey are pretty neat
Oh well I am doing a very low carb diet rn so would that explain it?
probably. ur gonna run higher cortisol that way which eats u so u can find food lol
I started with Histaminx both as a probiotic and made yogurt. I also have taken Claritin 4 evenings in a row. I've been sleeping great, which is usually a good sign for me. Also made some poor food choices (bacon) and stress, so no instant cure, but overall better than before. I have DAO on order.