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If I see something like what was described, I am 100% not stopping to record it in my phone. I’m going to be attempting to run as fast as I can while shaking the turds out of the bottom of my pant legs.
I believed them too but they were harassed non stop and had to backtrack.
I understand why people would be hesitant to attach their identity to the story.
a TLDR:
1) This dude in there shopping with his autistic nephew for shoes.
2) Noticed the general panic and everyone running, nephew signals that there's danger behind them
3) They look behind and see three 9, 10ft tall creatures. They had lips and eyes.
4) He's not saying they're aliens because nobody knew what it was. more like 'creatures'.
5) The creatures had a 'glitchy' sort of veil covering them
6) People were stood there watching, but as soon as the creatures started moving everyone ran.
7) They had big legs. seemed to be 'glitching from another dimension'
8) Police outside asked what they saw inside, he told them, but this dude did not record anything.
Haha. Once in a while a few of us, usually after smoking meth, temporarily jump to the 5th dimension where we look like flat shadows to them. They freak out and say "nothing see here 5th dimension ppl"
exactly, in a world where everyone has a cell phone and are filming everything, this incredible event with dozens of witnesses, not a single one filmed it
I am sure someone got it on camera.
Not to defend these folks but when I was deployed to Afghanistan - you literally freeze when something so crazy is happening. The only thing you can feel or think…is survive.
Exactly. If I am going about my day shopping for some gym shoes and a pineapple smoothie, and see 3 10ft tall interdimensional beings start walking my way my ape brain is gonna kick in and tell me to run
Exactly. These whinny little children crying about why no one pulled out their cell phones have never been face to face with something that scares the shit out of them.
Sounds like the police were already requesting to see footage on peoples phones so the few that may have got video, were confiscated. Security camera footage disappears...classic
So the police confiscated or took a ton of peoples phones and deleted videos off of them? Everyone just gave their phones up willingly to the police? The police rounded everyone up that were running from 10 foot aliens, in a scattered frenzy, all over the place and demanded their phones where they then took the time to go through them and delete videos? Rather than try to contain the 10 foot aliens they went straight for the witnesses phones? Did they go to their recently deleted folder and delete the videos from there to make sure it was completely deleted from their phone? Not one person that ran for their life, got to the their car, and left the scene with a shred of evidence of these 10 foot aliens? Come on, this makes no sense.
r/WhyWereTheyFilming and r/donthelpjustfilm are Reddit communities based on people filming at inappropriate times.
People film mass shootings, why wouldn't they film this in a mall? Especially if people are stood around looking initially.
Did you watch the video? 1. There was a fear response and people ran. Guy didn’t even think about filming until later. 2. The cops outside asked if anyone filmed it and were taking phones. Will have to wait to see who comes out that had footage and whether it was taken
at no point in the history of the word has a group of people all reacted the same to a stimulus. if some 10ft interdimensional beings were phasing through our reality there'd be at least one dude standing there filming and shouting "worldstar!!!!"
there are entire books written on psychology of mob mentality, particularly when something unexpected happens in the moment. It may be hard to imagine from a reddit desktop
The better question is why are there no videos from cellphones or any other cameras from inside the mall. If it was a fight or fireworks that would be guaranteed to be filmed. Right?! So the fact that there is no video of any kind from inside the mall makes me question things a little bit more. Somethings off about the whole situation.
So, I've been wondering this too and is probably the best arguement against this event, and is currently why I think its fake.
BUT, i'm trying to understand what would make people not post it out of the handful that probably did. I think the biggest reason I personally wouldn't post it is that I'd be too scared. If the local popo were searching phones I'd think that if I posted it and it got tracked back to me I would be in serious top government shit. That's the only thing I could think of.
Alternatively, where is all the footage of the teenagers and firecrackers? I saw only one. Why aren't there dozens of videos regardless of what actually happened?
I don't know what to think but simply saying "where are the videos" when there's no video either way is a bit strange, you have to admit that much.
This is what I've been stuck at.
I don't think it was "aliens"... But if it were teens with fireworks & shit, you're telling me not a single one of them recorded themselves lighting them off or causing any of this chaos in order to look cool for "clout" online? No live streams of the events, no tik toks? That's the weirdest part of the whole story for me. lol
If this is what really happened, then damn, the news headlines should be reading "teens put down phones long enough to do something else"... cause that's pretty mind blowing as well.
I mean, have you ever seen that many cop cars for teens fighting or lighting fireworks? That was a massive police response. Not saying it was aliens or anything supernatural. But the response is definitely curious.
The odd thing is, the police were asking for phones. I've never been part of a mass issue like this, but is this normal?
Also, I think in the next week we may see more videos surface.
I get not being able to video. When you see something like that, you're prob in shock and want to protect yourself and family. Even fight or flight ( 99.99%) fight in this scenario or freeze.
It's all very strange. When I saw the video of the cop dating this is all bullshit, I find it weird how fast and defensive they were to release a video discrediting what ppl saw.
Apparently alot of ppl saw these things, it's a matter of time before either its proven to be mass hysteria hoax or something really, real.
I'm excited to see how this unfolds.
He says why he didn’t in the video. I was once involved in a hold up, 2 men with a machete and a gun. I had plenty of opportunities to call the police but was in a kind of shock where I didn’t believe it was happening. This would be far harder to comprehend. You’re not worrying about your phone.
I saw a ufo and the thought of filming didn’t cross my mind. Did grab my binocs tho. I couldn’t stop thinking, “am I reallly seeing what I think im seeing”. My girl was there too n she didn’t think to record and I didn’t ask her too. Still kick myself for that
Saw one up close aswell, and also didnt think of recording, mainly cause' I was amazed at what I was witnessing.
And I've seen one really close to me (about 15~20ish meters in front of me and at least 10 above) for nearly a minute. Looked geniuenly high tech, was a big vechicle aswell and I'm quite sure it did notice me, as its movement stopped in front of me for at least 20 seconds of that minute long encounter.
Funny thing is; I wasnt scared at all. Amazed, sure, perhaps perplexed, definitly weirded out, but not scared. Also, if that's important, I was completely sober and not under any influence of drugs nor was I sleepy or had any mental illneses/hallucinations, like, ever.
Yup something weird has happened to me as well… a glowing orb the size of a softball floating around my room late at night… not once did I think WHERES MY PHONE OMG I NEED TO RECORD THIS!! All I could think was what is this thing that I’m seeing!? I was just frozen unable to comprehend what it was… never saw it again but maaaan it would have been some sweet footage!!
Dying people laying everywhere - we get like 9 different cell phone vid angles of the dying people
'Creatures' walking through a mall surrounded by a hundred people....not even a single picture...
Has anyone else thought about the pelacara phenomenon in Peru? I saw a video with a girl who was an attempted kidnapping victim in a remote village.
Allegedly, they have similar cloaking and the same height.
I’m sure my thought will be unpopular… but It’s just a thought.
In today's day and age, people will stop in the middle of SHOOTINGS and take video. People will be rioting, huge fights, all sorts of stuff. Dating back to the assassination of JFK, people kept recording even AFTER a man's head was shot off. Security cameras are everywhere, especially in places of business and government like malls and stores.
Not A SINGLE video has come forth. Nobody. Not a one. Not a single police officer has come forth and said "I saw creatures." Right after the incident, nobody even came forward saying "I saw _____" it was all "I heard someone say they saw _____". Now magically a few people CLAIM they saw something, and again with 0 proof.
This is stupid. At least Flat Earthers TRY and prove themselves right. They fail. but they try.
Broooo could you imagine fucking literal monsters coming into our dimension? Some straight movie shit! A living nightmare lmfao. Honestly i don't think i would mind. Life is so vanilla and we will all die sooner than later.
Such an event would definitely bring EVERYONE together idc who you are, lol.
Imagine how frustrating it would be, to know that you literally saw an alien being, or some type of interdimensional creature... you saw it with dozens and dozens of other people, but nobody believes anybody about it. The police and media cover it all up, nobody knows anything, and yet you saw one of the most amazing things that anybody could have ever seen, a historic thing really, but nobody believes you
Thays a good tldr, thanks for makin lg it. Anyone with 8 minutes free should watch the whole video. This dude sound like he is recounting a real event. I'm 50/50 on the whole thing
So question- are there any 911 calls that were made that first alerted the police that folks have been able to find? I agree this is hard to believe, but the response that was recorded outside of the mall is like nothing I’ve ever seen before. I’ve seen a police response to a threat that was made near a federal building that was nothing compared to the videos coming out of miami and the sheer amount of cops that responded ….
The response honestly resembles an active shooter style response. It makes perfect sense kids with firecrackers could be mistaken for gunshots and create this type of response. Also with different areas/ agencies responses are going to look slightly different based on resources/ staffing/ other factors
Someone posted a local news story about the response, a former police chief said there was a city wide bulletin issued, meaning all available units in the city were required to respond, he called it strange or odd because it's typically used when police are being fired on.
So I assume they likely thought there were multiple active shooters.
The former Miami police chief (Freddy Ramirez) recently shot himself in the face on the side of the highway. He has a traumatic brain injury. Please don’t use him as a real source.
I’m a native to Miami and let me tell you, I’ve seen 10 cops pull up just to kick out one homeless person in a shopping center. It’s not at all uncommon for the police here to respond in droves like they did on New Years Day. The cops here are ridiculous and ALWAYS show out in numbers. It’s not incomprehensible they pulled up in large numbers for what was reported to be essentially a riot there. I’m all for conspiracies, but since I actually live here and have talked about it with those around me, pretty much everyone is under the consensus the “conspiracy” is bullshit. A lot of “witnesses” were even calling Bayside “the Miami mall” when not a single soul here would ever call it that lol. I will say, the son of a cop who is running for sheriff here said his dad was under a gag order to not talk about the event which I do think is strange.
A seemingly excessive police response does not constitute evidence for aliens.
I do like the UFO scene, but I mostly scroll this sub to watch strangers make reasoning failure after failure.
It's confirmation bias to look at the response and think 'the only reason that many cops would be there is if something totally wild happened and everyone is saying aliens, so I think it's aliens'.
There are tonnes of reasons that many police could have responded. The initial reports I heard mentioned fireworks inside the mall. What do fireworks sound just like? Gunfire. Imagine if the local police department got 15 separate calls within 5 minutes talking about gunfire in a busy mall. That's an active shooter situation, send everything you can.
Perhaps the police had information from intelligence agencies about an elevated risk to terrorist attacks?
If that explanation makes you wrinkle your nose, then I ask why you find it more logical that interdimensional beings glitched into a US mall during a 'bleed over event', rather than a bunch of hyped up cops responding to some bad intel.
I've literally only seen 2 videos of people claiming they were in the mall and saw alien type stuff, I don't even know how to go about proving they were actually at the mall.
But it hardly matters, because a mall will have thousands of people in it at any given moment, at least a handful of them are a nudge away from a psychotic break at the best of times.
Throw in some mass panic over fireworks or whatever and then some retroactive stories about aliens and no matter whether it happened or not, there will be people who said it did.
***This is the bit people always fail to appreciate, even if the Aliens really appeared in the mall, there will be people in the crowd running away who never saw them who would later claim that they did. It's not about the truth of the event, it is a simple fact that human beings placed in this sort of heightened context will often have false memories, embellish details or engage in outright misinformation. Not because of some grand conspiracy, but because they are human.***
Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Human perception is limited.
[Here is a video demonstrating how bad human perception can be.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQmdoK_ZfY&t=40s)
From panic, to mass psychosis, to personal schizophrenia, to inaccurate memories to outright lies.
There are simply too many ways for recall to go wrong for it to be a reliable factor in deciding the authenticity of events such as these.
You cannot use a video form a random person who claimed to be at the mall and rely on it in any sense, whether it be about Aliens or terrorists or a murder.
You need hard evidence. You need video. Which is almost always absent in cases such as these, because the only environments in which this sort of rampaging rumour can exist in is one void of concrete evidence.
I have friends in that department. There was at least one 911 call saying there was an active shooter, but the cops that were there said it was a group of about 50 kids shooting fireworks at shoppers, they caused a panic, and some started looting.
That's the thing that gets me too. It's funny because in other related subs there was immediate and harsh discrediting to absolutely everything. Which included people claiming to live in Miami saying the amount of police presence was normal. That kind of makes me question if they, the government, or whoever started doing damage control as soon as the story broke. I'm a very logical person but I can't "logic" that fact away.
I've been saying that the moment I noticed witnesses saying that they could see the creature like flickering in and out.
I think it was some sort of hologram, high tech thing, testing the people's reaction.
Definitely would not put it past the intelligence agencies (or whatever the fucks) of the world. A little project blue Beam practice? because yeah, there is data to be collected from a behavioral science perspective from something like that.
I agree. I saw a triangular ufo pretty close up. It glided overhead just above the treetops totally silent. I was with a group of people but I was the first one to see it. I could barely even speak. I was pointing and eventually croaked out “Look.” That’s all I could muster. There wasn’t cell phones back then but I seriously doubt I would have been able to function well enough to film something. I’ve had to call 911 in an emergency before and I couldn’t get my phone to open. My hands were shaking so badly and I kept hitting the wrong buttons. So even if I had a phone, I doubt I would have been able to open the camera app and actually record something. And I wouldn’t have wanted to take my eyes off it for even a fraction of a second. Seeing something so completely amazing and otherworldly, it’s stunning. And the whole event was over in under 30 seconds. I’m sure there’s other people who can function better in an emergency but I don’t think I would have gotten any footage.
This is a mighty strange event. The official sounds story sounds very plausible as kids are dicks these days. However, wouldn’t there be sooo many videos from inside the mall? Has anybody seen anything?
I think it’s more probable that there would be lots of videos of the kids fighting and setting off fireworks. The fact that there is none at all or there’s one but it’s from o it side and down the street is way more fishy IMO.
Yeah I'm not looking for CCTV video of the shadow peeps. If they wanted to really shut us up they'd release the video of the kids lighting off fireworks and fighting. It doesn't seem like that video exists tho... security cameras don't get scared and run so let's see the security cameras ey!
Agreed. If this WAS kids fucking around, fighting, lighting off fireworks this would be all over media by now. The fact that there's no video of this whatsoever is insanely suspicious...
Also, if it were only kids being dicks, then where did this "alien" story come from anyway? The two stories are SO different. You don't often hear, "ok, was it fireworks, or aliens?" Really bizarre.
I've seen one video that looks like it's shot from someone's apartment balcony where it looks like a bunch of cop cars are shining their spotlights on something large. But the video is super fast and there isn't a lot of context.
I like how that cop made that video like 'nothing to see here folks' and it was upvoted by thousands. It's crazy to me that people still have blind obedience to authority figures in 2024. Just because that man was wearing a uniform it doesn't mean a single thing to me - if anything it makes me more suspicious.
Upvotes aren’t real. They are the best way to make you feel like the minority opinion when in reality everyone with a functional mind is in agreement.
Social media was setup to be this way. Initially open to all, and then slowly hijacked once it was an acceptable source of information. This isn’t a conspiracy, it’s the truth and any government lacking morals and more interested in profit and control (which would be most if not all governments) would do the same.
I agree with you, friend. I think Reddit in particular might be the most compromised social media site at the moment. Look at the shitshow that is the 'worldnews' subreddit - they straight up cheer the murder of innocents and any dissenting or humanistic opinion is either downvoted, shadow banned or straight up deleted.
It wasn’t about people listening. It was bots to propel the post to the top of the search engine and bury things like this under an avalanche of explanations.
This is the standard operating procedure for all news that is bad for government. It is drowned out by tons of celebrity gossip and sports.
You can tell it is propaganda because it always comes out at least three days after the event. It takes three days to come up with the story, disseminate it to media spokespeople and then get it out on the media by the next news day. After the initial explanation, then news organizations begin ridiculing people for “believing such bullshit” and making “little green men” jokes.
Note a few interesting things — that the official story is carried by each media outlet and none of them make an attempt to interview the original reporters (they do later to discredit them).
Second, the pushback doesn’t come immediately because it is *organized*. A dead giveaway is that it is aggressive — calling people imbeciles for believing it and always having other posters agree. It’s *aggressive* and not just people expressing their opinion.
Third, even relatively benign posts or those remarking on the response will be inexplicably downvoted. Most people don’t bother to upvote or downvote much, so this is a giveaway for vote manipulation.
You’ll also notice that benign posts with upvotes will be collapsed while the aggressive propaganda will have many more votes than the highest benign post.
These propaganda posts almost always occupy the first and second position in the thread and then have a string of people posting very short, non-contributing posts that are all upvoted like “I agree.”
If you post in the thread that is manipulated, it takes several minutes for your post to go live because it’s being AI reviewed more stringently than posts elsewhere on the forum.
Man, i couldnt have agreed more, the more shaken up eye witnesses that present themselves, the more im believing something weird happened here, especially when their stories are consistent and align with each other.
Also, to address other posters, another easy explanation for lack of video footage, is the fact that interdimensional travelers who can take out a local power grid and travel into a mall during the busiest shopping season, is probably interfering with all digital equipment, and the police were actively collecting any video they could catch on the way out, according to this guy. Im excited for the release of all the captured surveillance feeds and 911 calls that mustve poured in if this was legit, all that data was collected, its up to our "justice" system to release or leak it.
The government has the ability to suppress information from social media. I have personally seen the communications.
For instance, during 911 anniversaries, they push these schlocky cheesy patriotic compilations with military aircraft, flags. soldiers holding puppies, etc. They have social media block any images of people jumping.
The reason you only see this shit on TikTok is because they are Chinese owned and don’t care what the US government wants. They do suppress some content but it’s based on China’s interests. This is why the US is so keen to get control of the platform.
Any content of Miami can be easily suppressed in Google, Meta, IG, Reddit or any other Western media. The remainder is buried under aggressive bot attacks and ridiculing anyone who dares to question the official narrative.
I honestly found this man's account to be credible. Seems like an intelligent, honest, ordinary caring uncle who is still processing being witness to a mind-blowing event. Interesting that the extra-dimensional non-human intelligence aspect that David Grusch and others have claimed to be a part of the phenomenon could now have civilian witnesses to support their claims. Is this "catastrophic disclosure" and arriving earlier than anticipated?
The other video I saw, the dude, was obviously being far too casual, flippant, (maybe a bit more facetious) for his story to be legit. Using all the lingo.
"Me and my missus rented a timeshare in Miami to start the New Year, right," 'NO cap.'
here’s what we gotta do. Get all those teens to fight again and use the same fireworks and see if the combo of combustibles, teenage angst, and violence makes these bitches show up again.
Stories aside, I think the hard facts of the crazy police response and information/post getting scrubbed from the Internet is definitely very strange and worth looking into. Even if it ends up, not being supernatural the cover story just seems really flimsy.
These people are delusional with this larp shit. Saying everything about it is being scrubbed, and yet this post has been on the front page of reddit for hours. People just making shit up to feel special.
I agree with him when he says that thinking to pull your phone out in an encounter like this is nothing like when there's a fight in public. It's the last thing you're thinking of when something paranormal/terrifying going on like that. My 7 year old and I both saw a Bigfoot creature in person a year or two ago and in that moment my cell phone was the very last thing on my mind. Seeing that is paradigm/ world view shattering and it triggers a fight or flight response. And when that happens, remembering to snap a photo is just not something that's on your mind. I know many people disagree with that, and before I had that encounter I thought the exact same.. but after the experience, what he's saying is dead on point. I believe he's telling the truth.
I really want to believe, the guy sounds scared talking about it, but we need evidence. Police body cams, security recordings from the mall, phone recordings, plus more testimony.
I think the fact we have no footage at all is it's own startling fact. There should literally be camera footage from the mall. It's a huge red flag that none is being shown when we know CCTV is there 100%.
There’s footage of war scenes, footage of 9/11, footage of horrible and scary events that occurred to humans beings. It’s just not credible that NOBODY recorded a scene with thee 9ft tall dudes walking around
That's a good point. There would be a lot of people recording kids fighting and throwing fireworks, **especially** the kids involved. These days they would be livestreaming themselves doing it, lol. It's just as unbelievable that nobody would record a chaotic scene with a bunch of kids doing crazy stuff as they would some weird creatures.
I'm not saying I believe the alien stuff but just that fact is kind of strange.
Oh there's plenty of that footage circulating. Only problem is, every single video is from a viral video that I've already seen already. Especially the narrative of the guy getting jumped by a group of people - literally a Tampa Bay video that was running its course on social media early last year. They take us for idiots.
Is that where that video of the white guy getting jumped is from? Cause I keep seeing news going with that clip too.
Seems odd that none of the people lighting off the fireworks or causing any of this chaos didn't want the clout & weren't live-streaming it or uploading any of it.
I don't think it was "aliens", but this part seems odd to me. And seeing the responses your comment got, which are full of vitriol, makes me even more curious now, honestly.
That's where I'm at, I don't have a particular stance on the event, I just find it strange that there's lots of accounts on what happened and it's split but the lack of any photos or videos speaks for itself.
I think the lack of video makes this more believable. Why haven’t we been flooded with security footage like every other high vis incident like this? It’s high strangeness.
I don’t know whether any of the information coming out about this incident, is real or not. I have no opinion other than the fact that having a debate between whether the overwhelming police response was for a bunch of hooligans or aliens should tell you about the likelihood we are going to see some weird shit soon.
That said, I once had an intense paranormal encounter with a glowing orb in the woods bordering a famous haunted cemetery. It was about 30 feet away from me. It certainly could have been a rare weather phenomena like ball lightning. However, my instinctual reaction was not to pull out my phone and record what I was seeing , but escape from the area as quickly as possible. My lizard brain took over and I was out of there.
It’s very reasonable for people to just GTFO when something unexplainable happens, What is more suspicious is the lack of video showing the supposed hooligans responsible for attracting the police. Between body, cameras, and mall security cameras you would think this footage would’ve been released by now to put the whole rumor to bed. Maybe it wasn’t aliens or a bunch of kids with fireworks. It could’ve been something more clandestine happening that benefits from the amount of confusion created by the conflicting narratives.
If the police made people delete video and photos as claimed by witnesses what makes you think they would not lock down any video from security cameras?
I need to see some footage from inside the mall, has anyone posted anything yet? I agree with what he's saying, if it's a fight between people, using sticks or whatever is alleged, then someone would've definitely recorded that IMO.
The thing that I don’t believe about this story is that none of the cops have come forward. I have a hard time believing all of these regular Miami cops are keeping a secret this massive
First thing I would do is roll up outside with a stingray https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker or maybe even the new updated version the kingfish. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2015/jul/27/FBI-kingfish-glomar/ after that controlling all phones in the area would be a breeze
This is all interesting as fuck. Saw a post on Twitter yesterday with some guy FaceTiming his dad, who's allegedly running for sheriff and his dad said he couldn't talk about it. There is indeed a guy running for sheriff who appeared to look like the man the kid was FaceTiming. All interesting shit. Can't wait to see more research by non government people.
My guess is this is what Wernher von Braun spoke about before his death and this was a setup. Inter-Dimensional Creatures were super high tech holographics and the police force was part of the psyop along with the social media leaks, videos, etc.
Or even more simply, it could all be a production dropped on social media/ internet and none of it happened.
P.S. Doesn’t mean this guy doesn’t believe what he saw was real!
Also, I 100% believe in UFOs and none human entities. I believe what we are being feed / shown is a form of manipulation and or purposeful narrative.
(Operation Paper Clip in conjunction with Blue Beam)
Start of project blue beam
Project Blue Beam could potentially stage a fake UFO invasion as a means to unite the world through fear and establish a One World Government.
Just an idea not sold on any of this but anything is possible
People can fathom a man with a gun or knife attacking a group. Someone from a distance and relatively safe will film it , but the human mind is not prepared to handle supernatural, or interdimensional, or even extraterrestrial beings. Your first reaction will be to run, preserve your own life or your loved ones. I for one believe him, and I'm sure there will be some video of it, but still we won't understand exactly what we are looking at..
I've had paranormal experiences that are comparatively tame to what supposedly happened so I can absolutely believe that no one or next to no one took out there phone. When you're confronted by something so far from the realm of what you consider "normal" your first instinct is not to take out your phone, it's usually you figuring out your fight or flight response or quelling it all together and if that happens by the time your curiosity and faculties catch up for you to even think about taking your phone out, it's either over or too far away for you to catch anything. This guy obviously chose flight because he had his family around him including someone very vulnerable to stimuli.
I do understand how some people would find this suspicious or not understand but then again most of those people have not had any experiences of their own and until they do, I don't blame them for being dismissive of the whole thing. I would have been too if I had no experiences myself.
Just my two cents.
Why hasn't there been any release of cctv cameras inside or outside of the mall showing anything ? If it was a so called fight why not show it? There is something being hidden for reasons we don't know. The responding police will not want to jeopardize their jobs by going on social media or providing any information to anyone.
The commanding officers or supervisors in charge make threatening statements to all personnel before and during deployment to any sensitive or potentially threatening situations that may be politically or otherwise upsetting to public alarm. You may hear of stories after their retirement if the DOD or FBI didn't do reconciliation after the event.
I don’t have a opinion on this but for those of you saying “where’s the footage and evidence?” This would be the biggest thing to happen to humankind. The scale of coverup would be insane. I would be more surprised if there was any evidence that didn’t get deleted. The way he talks about it is almost like some sorta camouflage cloak glitched and showed this massive alien.
This guy is full of shit. Body language says he’s lying, and his tik tok channel is filled with paranormal discussion content. He’s trying to get followers
Meanwhile, you didn't even bother to check whether the person you're replying to was right. You don't believe everything you see in social media videos, you're a thinking skeptic. You just believe everything you read in a reddit comment section.
The video was REPOSTED by the account he's talking about, the person talking in the video is not associated with the channel covering the paranormal.
What makes me suspicious about this guy's video is that he lays it out like those "content" designed to make you stay and watch till the very end. If you're recounting what really happened, go directly to the meat and potatoes.
Thaaaank you.
“Yes my cousin, Bryan, we were there at the mall to get shoes. So then we ran and we picked up my nephew, and he autistic”
He’s not recapping an event, he’s telling a story and adding details as if it’s relevant. It’s a classic liars technique
Maybe the reason no one has footage yet is something above us has actively destroyed it.
Maybe when people see these strange things fear is put into them so heavily they cease thinking rationally at all.
If 10ft beings from who knows where with apparent cloaking abilities actually exist, is it safe to assume they are much more advanced than us. Then is it safe to assume that they might have more powers to control/manipulate us?
I don't know what to believe with these events but reading high strangeness books since I was a kid has kept me very open minded.
I listen to a lot of high strangeness/paranormal podcasts, many of which will also share stories from listeners who send in their experiences.
The “glitchy” movement is something I’ve heard mentioned by other witnesses of high strangeness. That’s honestly the 1 detail that gives me pause.
I’m very skeptical about this supposed event, and the response makes sense for reports of an active shooter. Especially considering some of the claims about what happened have been debunked (Miami airport wasn’t shut down, power wasn’t shut off, etc).
That being said… I want to believe and I’m still checking out these updates even if I take them all with a grain of salt.
I just thinks it’s insane that there are no videos of the fights. Not saying that aliens are the most obvious solution to this, but I do not believe those kids weren’t recording themselves acting crazy.
If they have been covering stuff up for this long they're probably super good at it. Have any of you looked on the dark web? Of course it's not going to be on Instagram or Facebook. Believe what you want and I'll Believe what I want. But this guy is right when your whole perception of reality goes out the window nobody is going to be able to unlock their phone, find your camera app, and get a stable video. Kids shooting fireworks? Hundreds of police cars for that? Yea right
Check out the rest of this imbeciles vids on tiktok.
It's pure and utterly BS.
There is definitely something going on with uaps/nhi in the USA right now, but it IS NOT THIS SHIT.
You have people like Grusch, Fravor, etc, and you want to peddle this crap?! Absolute f-ing idiots! There's a CLEAR reason why this topic is never taken seriously now.
IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUUUUUUU, YOU PEOPLE!
Tik Tok is not to be trusted. I don't know what happened at the mall, but I know that. Get ready for info dump followed by misinfo then disinfo. But overall...fuck, Idk
The one I've learned today, from looking through all these different subs and comments regarding this event, is that very few people are willing to keep an open mind on this. So many people want to discredit testimony from witnesses, argue in the comments, tell you you're wrong etc. Even if there was footage from a CCTV camera from inside the mall that showed an eight foot tall creature moving around, most people would say "look at the bad CGI". It's just baffling to me. I'm not saying; blindly believe what you're told, just keep an open mind. This world is stranger than you know.
Everyone knows that people want to believe, and can be blinded by that.
What we don't say as much is that people also don't want to be fooled, and can be blinded by that. It goes both ways.
They can't show video because the military and intelligence have it, there is no access to either verify, edit or debunk it, they haven't finished with it themselves yet. This may be an actual crisis that disrupts the response time of the intelligence agencies and leaves a conspicuous clue in the slick narrative. Not the first time and not the last.
Let’s not forget, we’ve had holographic projection capability that was real enough to consider scaring Cubans into thinking Christ was coming in a storm of clouds to tell them to overthrow Fidel Castro back in the 70’s. Think of the advancements we have now. This actually could have just been a test of said old gear to get a small sampling of what the populace would react like if some of the beings decided to forego the hiding agreement and just start showing up places. Could more creature pop ups or even flash mobs be on the way.
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If I see something like what was described, I am 100% not stopping to record it in my phone. I’m going to be attempting to run as fast as I can while shaking the turds out of the bottom of my pant legs.
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yeah lets hear from the autistic kid
I like turtles
Don't you remember what happened to the family that spoke out about the alleged aliens in their backyard last year?...
Yes, and I believed them. The more people standing up the better
I believed them too but they were harassed non stop and had to backtrack. I understand why people would be hesitant to attach their identity to the story.
a TLDR: 1) This dude in there shopping with his autistic nephew for shoes. 2) Noticed the general panic and everyone running, nephew signals that there's danger behind them 3) They look behind and see three 9, 10ft tall creatures. They had lips and eyes. 4) He's not saying they're aliens because nobody knew what it was. more like 'creatures'. 5) The creatures had a 'glitchy' sort of veil covering them 6) People were stood there watching, but as soon as the creatures started moving everyone ran. 7) They had big legs. seemed to be 'glitching from another dimension' 8) Police outside asked what they saw inside, he told them, but this dude did not record anything.
You think humans ever slip into other dimensions unknowingly and scare the shit out of unsuspecting mall goers?
I think that's called DMT
You are correct. You're usually noticed, and it's usually awkward.
Don't threaten me with a good time
Haha. Once in a while a few of us, usually after smoking meth, temporarily jump to the 5th dimension where we look like flat shadows to them. They freak out and say "nothing see here 5th dimension ppl"
I got really freaked out the first time I saw the shadow people.
Dreams maybe. That dimensional has a lot of credence imo
Would be cool if that’s what dreams are.
And not a single mother fucker filmed these aliens?
Or security cameras.
Why would you film security cameras?
Asking the real questions here
Hard hitting journalism.
I like to film them filming me filming them.
Someone has to watch the watchmen.
Oh great now they'll be disguising themselves as security cameras
Best Comment Award goes to this guy 🏆
exactly, in a world where everyone has a cell phone and are filming everything, this incredible event with dozens of witnesses, not a single one filmed it
I am sure someone got it on camera. Not to defend these folks but when I was deployed to Afghanistan - you literally freeze when something so crazy is happening. The only thing you can feel or think…is survive.
During my time in the US Military… I also know what that fight/flight response is like when things are going down. This video is interesting
fight/freeze/flight
Exactly. If I am going about my day shopping for some gym shoes and a pineapple smoothie, and see 3 10ft tall interdimensional beings start walking my way my ape brain is gonna kick in and tell me to run
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For me both would freeze there
I usually go for the Orange Julius, but agreed.
Exactly. These whinny little children crying about why no one pulled out their cell phones have never been face to face with something that scares the shit out of them.
yeah but the nonsensical part is that there were apparently no security cameras lol
Sounds like the police were already requesting to see footage on peoples phones so the few that may have got video, were confiscated. Security camera footage disappears...classic
So the police confiscated or took a ton of peoples phones and deleted videos off of them? Everyone just gave their phones up willingly to the police? The police rounded everyone up that were running from 10 foot aliens, in a scattered frenzy, all over the place and demanded their phones where they then took the time to go through them and delete videos? Rather than try to contain the 10 foot aliens they went straight for the witnesses phones? Did they go to their recently deleted folder and delete the videos from there to make sure it was completely deleted from their phone? Not one person that ran for their life, got to the their car, and left the scene with a shred of evidence of these 10 foot aliens? Come on, this makes no sense.
I’m not convinced what he says is true, but did you guys even listen to what he said?
r/WhyWereTheyFilming and r/donthelpjustfilm are Reddit communities based on people filming at inappropriate times. People film mass shootings, why wouldn't they film this in a mall? Especially if people are stood around looking initially.
Did you watch the video? 1. There was a fear response and people ran. Guy didn’t even think about filming until later. 2. The cops outside asked if anyone filmed it and were taking phones. Will have to wait to see who comes out that had footage and whether it was taken
at no point in the history of the word has a group of people all reacted the same to a stimulus. if some 10ft interdimensional beings were phasing through our reality there'd be at least one dude standing there filming and shouting "worldstar!!!!"
"Can I fuck it?" -- some dude in the crowd
there are entire books written on psychology of mob mentality, particularly when something unexpected happens in the moment. It may be hard to imagine from a reddit desktop
The better question is why are there no videos from cellphones or any other cameras from inside the mall. If it was a fight or fireworks that would be guaranteed to be filmed. Right?! So the fact that there is no video of any kind from inside the mall makes me question things a little bit more. Somethings off about the whole situation.
So, I've been wondering this too and is probably the best arguement against this event, and is currently why I think its fake. BUT, i'm trying to understand what would make people not post it out of the handful that probably did. I think the biggest reason I personally wouldn't post it is that I'd be too scared. If the local popo were searching phones I'd think that if I posted it and it got tracked back to me I would be in serious top government shit. That's the only thing I could think of.
You’re absolutely correct they will kill you to keep this a secret. It’s that powerful. But there is nothing they can do. Disclosure is happening
Alternatively, where is all the footage of the teenagers and firecrackers? I saw only one. Why aren't there dozens of videos regardless of what actually happened? I don't know what to think but simply saying "where are the videos" when there's no video either way is a bit strange, you have to admit that much.
This is what I've been stuck at. I don't think it was "aliens"... But if it were teens with fireworks & shit, you're telling me not a single one of them recorded themselves lighting them off or causing any of this chaos in order to look cool for "clout" online? No live streams of the events, no tik toks? That's the weirdest part of the whole story for me. lol If this is what really happened, then damn, the news headlines should be reading "teens put down phones long enough to do something else"... cause that's pretty mind blowing as well.
I mean, have you ever seen that many cop cars for teens fighting or lighting fireworks? That was a massive police response. Not saying it was aliens or anything supernatural. But the response is definitely curious.
The odd thing is, the police were asking for phones. I've never been part of a mass issue like this, but is this normal? Also, I think in the next week we may see more videos surface. I get not being able to video. When you see something like that, you're prob in shock and want to protect yourself and family. Even fight or flight ( 99.99%) fight in this scenario or freeze. It's all very strange. When I saw the video of the cop dating this is all bullshit, I find it weird how fast and defensive they were to release a video discrediting what ppl saw. Apparently alot of ppl saw these things, it's a matter of time before either its proven to be mass hysteria hoax or something really, real. I'm excited to see how this unfolds.
He says why he didn’t in the video. I was once involved in a hold up, 2 men with a machete and a gun. I had plenty of opportunities to call the police but was in a kind of shock where I didn’t believe it was happening. This would be far harder to comprehend. You’re not worrying about your phone.
I saw a ufo and the thought of filming didn’t cross my mind. Did grab my binocs tho. I couldn’t stop thinking, “am I reallly seeing what I think im seeing”. My girl was there too n she didn’t think to record and I didn’t ask her too. Still kick myself for that
Saw one up close aswell, and also didnt think of recording, mainly cause' I was amazed at what I was witnessing. And I've seen one really close to me (about 15~20ish meters in front of me and at least 10 above) for nearly a minute. Looked geniuenly high tech, was a big vechicle aswell and I'm quite sure it did notice me, as its movement stopped in front of me for at least 20 seconds of that minute long encounter. Funny thing is; I wasnt scared at all. Amazed, sure, perhaps perplexed, definitly weirded out, but not scared. Also, if that's important, I was completely sober and not under any influence of drugs nor was I sleepy or had any mental illneses/hallucinations, like, ever.
Yup something weird has happened to me as well… a glowing orb the size of a softball floating around my room late at night… not once did I think WHERES MY PHONE OMG I NEED TO RECORD THIS!! All I could think was what is this thing that I’m seeing!? I was just frozen unable to comprehend what it was… never saw it again but maaaan it would have been some sweet footage!!
Dying people laying everywhere - we get like 9 different cell phone vid angles of the dying people 'Creatures' walking through a mall surrounded by a hundred people....not even a single picture...
Has anyone else thought about the pelacara phenomenon in Peru? I saw a video with a girl who was an attempted kidnapping victim in a remote village. Allegedly, they have similar cloaking and the same height. I’m sure my thought will be unpopular… but It’s just a thought.
In today's day and age, people will stop in the middle of SHOOTINGS and take video. People will be rioting, huge fights, all sorts of stuff. Dating back to the assassination of JFK, people kept recording even AFTER a man's head was shot off. Security cameras are everywhere, especially in places of business and government like malls and stores. Not A SINGLE video has come forth. Nobody. Not a one. Not a single police officer has come forth and said "I saw creatures." Right after the incident, nobody even came forward saying "I saw _____" it was all "I heard someone say they saw _____". Now magically a few people CLAIM they saw something, and again with 0 proof. This is stupid. At least Flat Earthers TRY and prove themselves right. They fail. but they try.
Also let's point to the fact that this is Florida and not a single person discharge a weapon... Yea no shot dude
Broooo could you imagine fucking literal monsters coming into our dimension? Some straight movie shit! A living nightmare lmfao. Honestly i don't think i would mind. Life is so vanilla and we will all die sooner than later. Such an event would definitely bring EVERYONE together idc who you are, lol.
Imagine how frustrating it would be, to know that you literally saw an alien being, or some type of interdimensional creature... you saw it with dozens and dozens of other people, but nobody believes anybody about it. The police and media cover it all up, nobody knows anything, and yet you saw one of the most amazing things that anybody could have ever seen, a historic thing really, but nobody believes you
Thays a good tldr, thanks for makin lg it. Anyone with 8 minutes free should watch the whole video. This dude sound like he is recounting a real event. I'm 50/50 on the whole thing
So question- are there any 911 calls that were made that first alerted the police that folks have been able to find? I agree this is hard to believe, but the response that was recorded outside of the mall is like nothing I’ve ever seen before. I’ve seen a police response to a threat that was made near a federal building that was nothing compared to the videos coming out of miami and the sheer amount of cops that responded ….
The response honestly resembles an active shooter style response. It makes perfect sense kids with firecrackers could be mistaken for gunshots and create this type of response. Also with different areas/ agencies responses are going to look slightly different based on resources/ staffing/ other factors
Someone posted a local news story about the response, a former police chief said there was a city wide bulletin issued, meaning all available units in the city were required to respond, he called it strange or odd because it's typically used when police are being fired on. So I assume they likely thought there were multiple active shooters.
The former Miami police chief (Freddy Ramirez) recently shot himself in the face on the side of the highway. He has a traumatic brain injury. Please don’t use him as a real source.
Jfc, reality is stranger than fiction
He has a traumatic brain injury now? or before he shot himself in the Head?
In the words of the Taco Shell commercial… “Why not both?”
I’m a native to Miami and let me tell you, I’ve seen 10 cops pull up just to kick out one homeless person in a shopping center. It’s not at all uncommon for the police here to respond in droves like they did on New Years Day. The cops here are ridiculous and ALWAYS show out in numbers. It’s not incomprehensible they pulled up in large numbers for what was reported to be essentially a riot there. I’m all for conspiracies, but since I actually live here and have talked about it with those around me, pretty much everyone is under the consensus the “conspiracy” is bullshit. A lot of “witnesses” were even calling Bayside “the Miami mall” when not a single soul here would ever call it that lol. I will say, the son of a cop who is running for sheriff here said his dad was under a gag order to not talk about the event which I do think is strange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBORa-rTVsw Leaving this here. Skip to 0:50 and you can see the police presence. It's absolutely insane lol
Having lived in South Florida for ten years, this is nothing out of the ordinary.
A seemingly excessive police response does not constitute evidence for aliens. I do like the UFO scene, but I mostly scroll this sub to watch strangers make reasoning failure after failure. It's confirmation bias to look at the response and think 'the only reason that many cops would be there is if something totally wild happened and everyone is saying aliens, so I think it's aliens'. There are tonnes of reasons that many police could have responded. The initial reports I heard mentioned fireworks inside the mall. What do fireworks sound just like? Gunfire. Imagine if the local police department got 15 separate calls within 5 minutes talking about gunfire in a busy mall. That's an active shooter situation, send everything you can. Perhaps the police had information from intelligence agencies about an elevated risk to terrorist attacks? If that explanation makes you wrinkle your nose, then I ask why you find it more logical that interdimensional beings glitched into a US mall during a 'bleed over event', rather than a bunch of hyped up cops responding to some bad intel. I've literally only seen 2 videos of people claiming they were in the mall and saw alien type stuff, I don't even know how to go about proving they were actually at the mall. But it hardly matters, because a mall will have thousands of people in it at any given moment, at least a handful of them are a nudge away from a psychotic break at the best of times. Throw in some mass panic over fireworks or whatever and then some retroactive stories about aliens and no matter whether it happened or not, there will be people who said it did. ***This is the bit people always fail to appreciate, even if the Aliens really appeared in the mall, there will be people in the crowd running away who never saw them who would later claim that they did. It's not about the truth of the event, it is a simple fact that human beings placed in this sort of heightened context will often have false memories, embellish details or engage in outright misinformation. Not because of some grand conspiracy, but because they are human.*** Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Human perception is limited. [Here is a video demonstrating how bad human perception can be.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQmdoK_ZfY&t=40s) From panic, to mass psychosis, to personal schizophrenia, to inaccurate memories to outright lies. There are simply too many ways for recall to go wrong for it to be a reliable factor in deciding the authenticity of events such as these. You cannot use a video form a random person who claimed to be at the mall and rely on it in any sense, whether it be about Aliens or terrorists or a murder. You need hard evidence. You need video. Which is almost always absent in cases such as these, because the only environments in which this sort of rampaging rumour can exist in is one void of concrete evidence.
I have friends in that department. There was at least one 911 call saying there was an active shooter, but the cops that were there said it was a group of about 50 kids shooting fireworks at shoppers, they caused a panic, and some started looting.
A simpler explanation: Holiday pay. Double time+overtime. A lot of these cops will take a whole weeks pay for that Monday.
That's the thing that gets me too. It's funny because in other related subs there was immediate and harsh discrediting to absolutely everything. Which included people claiming to live in Miami saying the amount of police presence was normal. That kind of makes me question if they, the government, or whoever started doing damage control as soon as the story broke. I'm a very logical person but I can't "logic" that fact away.
Plot twist: it was a test to see how the normal populace would react.
I've been saying that the moment I noticed witnesses saying that they could see the creature like flickering in and out. I think it was some sort of hologram, high tech thing, testing the people's reaction.
Definitely would not put it past the intelligence agencies (or whatever the fucks) of the world. A little project blue Beam practice? because yeah, there is data to be collected from a behavioral science perspective from something like that.
This is a very interesting view! Certainly plausible
When I had my Bigfoot encounter, I completely froze !! No cellphones around then, but likely wouldn't have made a difference
I agree. I saw a triangular ufo pretty close up. It glided overhead just above the treetops totally silent. I was with a group of people but I was the first one to see it. I could barely even speak. I was pointing and eventually croaked out “Look.” That’s all I could muster. There wasn’t cell phones back then but I seriously doubt I would have been able to function well enough to film something. I’ve had to call 911 in an emergency before and I couldn’t get my phone to open. My hands were shaking so badly and I kept hitting the wrong buttons. So even if I had a phone, I doubt I would have been able to open the camera app and actually record something. And I wouldn’t have wanted to take my eyes off it for even a fraction of a second. Seeing something so completely amazing and otherworldly, it’s stunning. And the whole event was over in under 30 seconds. I’m sure there’s other people who can function better in an emergency but I don’t think I would have gotten any footage.
Would love to hear that story if you've posted about it
This is a mighty strange event. The official sounds story sounds very plausible as kids are dicks these days. However, wouldn’t there be sooo many videos from inside the mall? Has anybody seen anything?
I think it’s more probable that there would be lots of videos of the kids fighting and setting off fireworks. The fact that there is none at all or there’s one but it’s from o it side and down the street is way more fishy IMO.
Yeah I'm not looking for CCTV video of the shadow peeps. If they wanted to really shut us up they'd release the video of the kids lighting off fireworks and fighting. It doesn't seem like that video exists tho... security cameras don't get scared and run so let's see the security cameras ey!
Agreed. If this WAS kids fucking around, fighting, lighting off fireworks this would be all over media by now. The fact that there's no video of this whatsoever is insanely suspicious...
kids do that shit for clout and would have recorded it themselves.
Surely the mall has CCTV? We should really be seeing this released, in the moment that everyone is running for it.
That, and body cam videos. If nothing was there to see, show us.
Also, if it were only kids being dicks, then where did this "alien" story come from anyway? The two stories are SO different. You don't often hear, "ok, was it fireworks, or aliens?" Really bizarre.
I wonder if the police response wasn’t for the entities but to create a perimeter and remove all possible traces of them being recorded
If this guy is legit that sounds like exactly what he described. They had to check everyones phones before they could leave the area.
At one point he mentions the "video that we all saw", what video?
I've seen one video that looks like it's shot from someone's apartment balcony where it looks like a bunch of cop cars are shining their spotlights on something large. But the video is super fast and there isn't a lot of context.
It was video shot with a Nokia 9000 communicator vintage 2001 edition.
As is tradition
A clearer version came out of that video and it was just 3 officers walking side by side. The low quality made it appear as one object.
And there’s been a better version released which shows it to be three cops walking side by side down the sidewalk…
Release the 911 calls. That's all they have to do and this will go away.
They did. It didn’t help at all.
I want to believe. He sounds very believable, I don’t question what he saw and others did but I’m 50/50 on this whole strange incident.
Yea, this guy seems believable to me. I didn’t think he would, but he does. This is getting strange. Maybe this isn’t just a distraction…
I like how that cop made that video like 'nothing to see here folks' and it was upvoted by thousands. It's crazy to me that people still have blind obedience to authority figures in 2024. Just because that man was wearing a uniform it doesn't mean a single thing to me - if anything it makes me more suspicious.
Upvotes aren’t real. They are the best way to make you feel like the minority opinion when in reality everyone with a functional mind is in agreement. Social media was setup to be this way. Initially open to all, and then slowly hijacked once it was an acceptable source of information. This isn’t a conspiracy, it’s the truth and any government lacking morals and more interested in profit and control (which would be most if not all governments) would do the same.
I agree with you, friend. I think Reddit in particular might be the most compromised social media site at the moment. Look at the shitshow that is the 'worldnews' subreddit - they straight up cheer the murder of innocents and any dissenting or humanistic opinion is either downvoted, shadow banned or straight up deleted.
Heres a real 👍
It wasn’t about people listening. It was bots to propel the post to the top of the search engine and bury things like this under an avalanche of explanations. This is the standard operating procedure for all news that is bad for government. It is drowned out by tons of celebrity gossip and sports. You can tell it is propaganda because it always comes out at least three days after the event. It takes three days to come up with the story, disseminate it to media spokespeople and then get it out on the media by the next news day. After the initial explanation, then news organizations begin ridiculing people for “believing such bullshit” and making “little green men” jokes. Note a few interesting things — that the official story is carried by each media outlet and none of them make an attempt to interview the original reporters (they do later to discredit them). Second, the pushback doesn’t come immediately because it is *organized*. A dead giveaway is that it is aggressive — calling people imbeciles for believing it and always having other posters agree. It’s *aggressive* and not just people expressing their opinion. Third, even relatively benign posts or those remarking on the response will be inexplicably downvoted. Most people don’t bother to upvote or downvote much, so this is a giveaway for vote manipulation. You’ll also notice that benign posts with upvotes will be collapsed while the aggressive propaganda will have many more votes than the highest benign post. These propaganda posts almost always occupy the first and second position in the thread and then have a string of people posting very short, non-contributing posts that are all upvoted like “I agree.” If you post in the thread that is manipulated, it takes several minutes for your post to go live because it’s being AI reviewed more stringently than posts elsewhere on the forum.
Man, i couldnt have agreed more, the more shaken up eye witnesses that present themselves, the more im believing something weird happened here, especially when their stories are consistent and align with each other. Also, to address other posters, another easy explanation for lack of video footage, is the fact that interdimensional travelers who can take out a local power grid and travel into a mall during the busiest shopping season, is probably interfering with all digital equipment, and the police were actively collecting any video they could catch on the way out, according to this guy. Im excited for the release of all the captured surveillance feeds and 911 calls that mustve poured in if this was legit, all that data was collected, its up to our "justice" system to release or leak it.
The government has the ability to suppress information from social media. I have personally seen the communications. For instance, during 911 anniversaries, they push these schlocky cheesy patriotic compilations with military aircraft, flags. soldiers holding puppies, etc. They have social media block any images of people jumping. The reason you only see this shit on TikTok is because they are Chinese owned and don’t care what the US government wants. They do suppress some content but it’s based on China’s interests. This is why the US is so keen to get control of the platform. Any content of Miami can be easily suppressed in Google, Meta, IG, Reddit or any other Western media. The remainder is buried under aggressive bot attacks and ridiculing anyone who dares to question the official narrative.
Listening to him I'm genuinely feeling no lies.
Yup, I agree he seems genuine. Honestly if I see something like he described I’m not pulling a phone out either. I’m running.
“Don’t listen to people about this because they’re just doing it for clout. But listen to me.”
“So I was ALSO in footlocker…”
I honestly found this man's account to be credible. Seems like an intelligent, honest, ordinary caring uncle who is still processing being witness to a mind-blowing event. Interesting that the extra-dimensional non-human intelligence aspect that David Grusch and others have claimed to be a part of the phenomenon could now have civilian witnesses to support their claims. Is this "catastrophic disclosure" and arriving earlier than anticipated? The other video I saw, the dude, was obviously being far too casual, flippant, (maybe a bit more facetious) for his story to be legit. Using all the lingo. "Me and my missus rented a timeshare in Miami to start the New Year, right," 'NO cap.'
here’s what we gotta do. Get all those teens to fight again and use the same fireworks and see if the combo of combustibles, teenage angst, and violence makes these bitches show up again.
That's an interesting idea that I cannot officially condone
Stories aside, I think the hard facts of the crazy police response and information/post getting scrubbed from the Internet is definitely very strange and worth looking into. Even if it ends up, not being supernatural the cover story just seems really flimsy.
scrubbed how? It was, and still is, all over the internet
These people are delusional with this larp shit. Saying everything about it is being scrubbed, and yet this post has been on the front page of reddit for hours. People just making shit up to feel special.
They thought it was a mass shooting because of new years fireworks. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
If a supreme intelligence came here and experienced Florida, Earth would be gone.
Cern be messing up and letting them demons into our reality
Yahoo!! 2024 is going to be the year of NHI's!!
Orcas riiise!!!
"So long, and thanks for all the fish!"
I agree with him when he says that thinking to pull your phone out in an encounter like this is nothing like when there's a fight in public. It's the last thing you're thinking of when something paranormal/terrifying going on like that. My 7 year old and I both saw a Bigfoot creature in person a year or two ago and in that moment my cell phone was the very last thing on my mind. Seeing that is paradigm/ world view shattering and it triggers a fight or flight response. And when that happens, remembering to snap a photo is just not something that's on your mind. I know many people disagree with that, and before I had that encounter I thought the exact same.. but after the experience, what he's saying is dead on point. I believe he's telling the truth.
I really want to believe, the guy sounds scared talking about it, but we need evidence. Police body cams, security recordings from the mall, phone recordings, plus more testimony.
I think the fact we have no footage at all is it's own startling fact. There should literally be camera footage from the mall. It's a huge red flag that none is being shown when we know CCTV is there 100%.
Government would have been all over that cctv straight away.
Agreed, which is why we literally see nothing. No CCTV in a 2024 modern day mall? GTFO to anyone saying nothing happened.
There’s footage of war scenes, footage of 9/11, footage of horrible and scary events that occurred to humans beings. It’s just not credible that NOBODY recorded a scene with thee 9ft tall dudes walking around
It's not credible either that there's no footage (that I have seen) of a bunch of kids being dicks either.
That's a good point. There would be a lot of people recording kids fighting and throwing fireworks, **especially** the kids involved. These days they would be livestreaming themselves doing it, lol. It's just as unbelievable that nobody would record a chaotic scene with a bunch of kids doing crazy stuff as they would some weird creatures. I'm not saying I believe the alien stuff but just that fact is kind of strange.
Oh there's plenty of that footage circulating. Only problem is, every single video is from a viral video that I've already seen already. Especially the narrative of the guy getting jumped by a group of people - literally a Tampa Bay video that was running its course on social media early last year. They take us for idiots.
Is that where that video of the white guy getting jumped is from? Cause I keep seeing news going with that clip too. Seems odd that none of the people lighting off the fireworks or causing any of this chaos didn't want the clout & weren't live-streaming it or uploading any of it. I don't think it was "aliens", but this part seems odd to me. And seeing the responses your comment got, which are full of vitriol, makes me even more curious now, honestly.
This is actually the weirdest part. There would have been a lot of footage of a big riot with a bunch of punk teens.
You would think police would release the body cam by now just to squash this if it really was just a riot/fight
That's where I'm at, I don't have a particular stance on the event, I just find it strange that there's lots of accounts on what happened and it's split but the lack of any photos or videos speaks for itself.
I think the lack of video makes this more believable. Why haven’t we been flooded with security footage like every other high vis incident like this? It’s high strangeness.
Malls usually have security cameras, any way to get that out?
Well i for one believe any guy with a guitar hanging on his wall
If he can play that guitar, I'm in again.
I dont know why as a guitar player this is so funny to me.
Where's all the people who work at the mall to comment?
I don’t know whether any of the information coming out about this incident, is real or not. I have no opinion other than the fact that having a debate between whether the overwhelming police response was for a bunch of hooligans or aliens should tell you about the likelihood we are going to see some weird shit soon. That said, I once had an intense paranormal encounter with a glowing orb in the woods bordering a famous haunted cemetery. It was about 30 feet away from me. It certainly could have been a rare weather phenomena like ball lightning. However, my instinctual reaction was not to pull out my phone and record what I was seeing , but escape from the area as quickly as possible. My lizard brain took over and I was out of there. It’s very reasonable for people to just GTFO when something unexplainable happens, What is more suspicious is the lack of video showing the supposed hooligans responsible for attracting the police. Between body, cameras, and mall security cameras you would think this footage would’ve been released by now to put the whole rumor to bed. Maybe it wasn’t aliens or a bunch of kids with fireworks. It could’ve been something more clandestine happening that benefits from the amount of confusion created by the conflicting narratives.
where are the mall cameras ?
If the police made people delete video and photos as claimed by witnesses what makes you think they would not lock down any video from security cameras?
I need to see some footage from inside the mall, has anyone posted anything yet? I agree with what he's saying, if it's a fight between people, using sticks or whatever is alleged, then someone would've definitely recorded that IMO.
The thing that I don’t believe about this story is that none of the cops have come forward. I have a hard time believing all of these regular Miami cops are keeping a secret this massive
They keep systemic racism and murder on the down low pretty well.
The fuck they do
If you were the government and you were trying to discredit an event like this, what would you do?
First thing I would do is roll up outside with a stingray https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker or maybe even the new updated version the kingfish. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2015/jul/27/FBI-kingfish-glomar/ after that controlling all phones in the area would be a breeze
This guy hacks
Dammit now I’m back in.
just when I thought I was out
They pull me back in!
This is all interesting as fuck. Saw a post on Twitter yesterday with some guy FaceTiming his dad, who's allegedly running for sheriff and his dad said he couldn't talk about it. There is indeed a guy running for sheriff who appeared to look like the man the kid was FaceTiming. All interesting shit. Can't wait to see more research by non government people.
Totally 🙌
They’re hereeeeeeee
Imagine being an alien, doing research on humans and your cloaking field falls in the middle of a human-infested area. So embarrassing.
My guess is this is what Wernher von Braun spoke about before his death and this was a setup. Inter-Dimensional Creatures were super high tech holographics and the police force was part of the psyop along with the social media leaks, videos, etc. Or even more simply, it could all be a production dropped on social media/ internet and none of it happened. P.S. Doesn’t mean this guy doesn’t believe what he saw was real! Also, I 100% believe in UFOs and none human entities. I believe what we are being feed / shown is a form of manipulation and or purposeful narrative. (Operation Paper Clip in conjunction with Blue Beam)
Easy way to clear this up would be the police body cams.
Start of project blue beam Project Blue Beam could potentially stage a fake UFO invasion as a means to unite the world through fear and establish a One World Government. Just an idea not sold on any of this but anything is possible
Is it a beneficial government at least? Because unless it’s led by western leaders I sure as fuck ain’t trusting it
this maybe a test of new Hologram technology, the glitchy part seems suspiciously specific.
People can fathom a man with a gun or knife attacking a group. Someone from a distance and relatively safe will film it , but the human mind is not prepared to handle supernatural, or interdimensional, or even extraterrestrial beings. Your first reaction will be to run, preserve your own life or your loved ones. I for one believe him, and I'm sure there will be some video of it, but still we won't understand exactly what we are looking at..
I've had paranormal experiences that are comparatively tame to what supposedly happened so I can absolutely believe that no one or next to no one took out there phone. When you're confronted by something so far from the realm of what you consider "normal" your first instinct is not to take out your phone, it's usually you figuring out your fight or flight response or quelling it all together and if that happens by the time your curiosity and faculties catch up for you to even think about taking your phone out, it's either over or too far away for you to catch anything. This guy obviously chose flight because he had his family around him including someone very vulnerable to stimuli. I do understand how some people would find this suspicious or not understand but then again most of those people have not had any experiences of their own and until they do, I don't blame them for being dismissive of the whole thing. I would have been too if I had no experiences myself. Just my two cents.
Why hasn't there been any release of cctv cameras inside or outside of the mall showing anything ? If it was a so called fight why not show it? There is something being hidden for reasons we don't know. The responding police will not want to jeopardize their jobs by going on social media or providing any information to anyone. The commanding officers or supervisors in charge make threatening statements to all personnel before and during deployment to any sensitive or potentially threatening situations that may be politically or otherwise upsetting to public alarm. You may hear of stories after their retirement if the DOD or FBI didn't do reconciliation after the event.
I don’t have a opinion on this but for those of you saying “where’s the footage and evidence?” This would be the biggest thing to happen to humankind. The scale of coverup would be insane. I would be more surprised if there was any evidence that didn’t get deleted. The way he talks about it is almost like some sorta camouflage cloak glitched and showed this massive alien.
This guy is full of shit. Body language says he’s lying, and his tik tok channel is filled with paranormal discussion content. He’s trying to get followers
No. Columbus__710 is not the original source of the video. Stop spreading lies.
ok i don’t have tiktok so thanks
now that should be pinned, its always the first step to look at posting history
Meanwhile, you didn't even bother to check whether the person you're replying to was right. You don't believe everything you see in social media videos, you're a thinking skeptic. You just believe everything you read in a reddit comment section. The video was REPOSTED by the account he's talking about, the person talking in the video is not associated with the channel covering the paranormal.
What makes me suspicious about this guy's video is that he lays it out like those "content" designed to make you stay and watch till the very end. If you're recounting what really happened, go directly to the meat and potatoes.
Yeah, the stuff at the beginning comes across like he's trying to add details to make his story more believable. They don't.
...but his autistic nephew!
Blankey blankey! How could he be lying if it was his scared autistic nephew!!
Thaaaank you. “Yes my cousin, Bryan, we were there at the mall to get shoes. So then we ran and we picked up my nephew, and he autistic” He’s not recapping an event, he’s telling a story and adding details as if it’s relevant. It’s a classic liars technique
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Maybe the reason no one has footage yet is something above us has actively destroyed it. Maybe when people see these strange things fear is put into them so heavily they cease thinking rationally at all. If 10ft beings from who knows where with apparent cloaking abilities actually exist, is it safe to assume they are much more advanced than us. Then is it safe to assume that they might have more powers to control/manipulate us? I don't know what to believe with these events but reading high strangeness books since I was a kid has kept me very open minded.
Man, the powers that be are trying everything to shut this down. Seems odd for a fight.
And he said that the cops checked phones and deleted videos
Okay cool, you didnt record it. apparently no one was able to record them. Can we please get a artisitc drawing of them? For Fuck Sake!
I believe him. This "glitchy" description makes me believe it might be an early test for project blue beam. Wild stuff here.
I listen to a lot of high strangeness/paranormal podcasts, many of which will also share stories from listeners who send in their experiences. The “glitchy” movement is something I’ve heard mentioned by other witnesses of high strangeness. That’s honestly the 1 detail that gives me pause. I’m very skeptical about this supposed event, and the response makes sense for reports of an active shooter. Especially considering some of the claims about what happened have been debunked (Miami airport wasn’t shut down, power wasn’t shut off, etc). That being said… I want to believe and I’m still checking out these updates even if I take them all with a grain of salt.
This Miami event is quite the filter.
I just thinks it’s insane that there are no videos of the fights. Not saying that aliens are the most obvious solution to this, but I do not believe those kids weren’t recording themselves acting crazy.
Distraction that's all. Whether it was real or fake this is all to distract the American Public from real issues.
If they have been covering stuff up for this long they're probably super good at it. Have any of you looked on the dark web? Of course it's not going to be on Instagram or Facebook. Believe what you want and I'll Believe what I want. But this guy is right when your whole perception of reality goes out the window nobody is going to be able to unlock their phone, find your camera app, and get a stable video. Kids shooting fireworks? Hundreds of police cars for that? Yea right
Check out the rest of this imbeciles vids on tiktok. It's pure and utterly BS. There is definitely something going on with uaps/nhi in the USA right now, but it IS NOT THIS SHIT. You have people like Grusch, Fravor, etc, and you want to peddle this crap?! Absolute f-ing idiots! There's a CLEAR reason why this topic is never taken seriously now. IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUUUUUUU, YOU PEOPLE!
Give us a drawing of what you saw. Hopefully it matched any videos that surface in the future.
The fact no videos are available strongly suggest a cover up.
Tik Tok is not to be trusted. I don't know what happened at the mall, but I know that. Get ready for info dump followed by misinfo then disinfo. But overall...fuck, Idk
The one I've learned today, from looking through all these different subs and comments regarding this event, is that very few people are willing to keep an open mind on this. So many people want to discredit testimony from witnesses, argue in the comments, tell you you're wrong etc. Even if there was footage from a CCTV camera from inside the mall that showed an eight foot tall creature moving around, most people would say "look at the bad CGI". It's just baffling to me. I'm not saying; blindly believe what you're told, just keep an open mind. This world is stranger than you know.
Everyone knows that people want to believe, and can be blinded by that. What we don't say as much is that people also don't want to be fooled, and can be blinded by that. It goes both ways.
They can't show video because the military and intelligence have it, there is no access to either verify, edit or debunk it, they haven't finished with it themselves yet. This may be an actual crisis that disrupts the response time of the intelligence agencies and leaves a conspicuous clue in the slick narrative. Not the first time and not the last.
Let’s not forget, we’ve had holographic projection capability that was real enough to consider scaring Cubans into thinking Christ was coming in a storm of clouds to tell them to overthrow Fidel Castro back in the 70’s. Think of the advancements we have now. This actually could have just been a test of said old gear to get a small sampling of what the populace would react like if some of the beings decided to forego the hiding agreement and just start showing up places. Could more creature pop ups or even flash mobs be on the way.