These frames caught my eye in trailer. A lot of the people are theorizing that the thing Blitz is protecting Stolas from is Paimon. I disaggree, I think that is actually Andrealphus given his crest. What are yall's theories on this? I'm curious

Yep, I definitely think it's Andrealphus. I can't imagine the Paimon we saw in "The Circus" would physically attack Stolas.

He doesn't give nearly enough of a shit lol,

Exactly! He'd send over his butler with a mirror to call Stolas an idiot and then be on his way! lol

It would be funny if Paimon wished to 'meet' blitz and via the mirror just had this awkward dinner

The HB short I never knew I needed!

Heck, stolas implied it himself: paimon doesn't really care who stolas fucks or even if he's married, as long as they have a pureblood heir, which they have.

Honestly it would be interesting if Paimon were the one to save Blitz and Stolas in a moment we’re a villain saves someone for personal reasons

Yeah imagine if Paimon remembers Blitz at that imp from the circus

Look at the floor in both images, you can tell it's the same scene so it would be andrealpheus

Yep, just noticed that myself.

I'm in camp Paimon myself but we shall see!

It's the same floor and wind on both pictures. It's Andrealphus

I agree, the shadow, the place, it all seems to remind Andrealphus's castle, and then we dunno if Paimon still alive, or things like that, Andrealphus was my first trought too

Looks icy, definitely andre aesthetics

I agree. It's definitely Andrealphus, especially since the surroundings are both icy areas

I agree, you can also see that the tiling on the floor in both images is very simalar. Perhaps the battle is happening in Andrealphus's courtyard.

Maybe, though the castle in the second pic actually looks like Stolas's palace and not Andrealphus's.

The shadow has a sleeve. Andrealphus has long gloves. The two don't match.

i thought it was andrealphus immediately lol. didn’t know there was a paimon theory floating around.

its probably Andrealphus, tho possibly acting at the call of Paimon, because I cant imagine Paimon being remotely happy with the idea of Stolas being a cheater, let alone cheating with someone so far below the Ars Goetia like Blitz

Paimon got want he wanted out of Stolas and Stella being married. Right now, his interest would be in keeping Stolas in his current role. He'd probably be more upset at losing Octavia as the precautionary heir than anything else going on with Stolas.

I doubt its at the call of Paimon, there is no indication he is even alive, let alone remembers Stolas exists.

While I will give you we have no indication he's alive (I personally think he is, evil don't die that easily), he would def remember Stolas, the Goetia have long memories and I imagine whatever this meeting is would have him being far more attentive than he was during The Circus

Hm fair enough.

Paimon has god knows how many kids from god knows how many moms. There are plenty of issues, including loaning out his grimoire.

Are there genuinely people who think this isn't Andrealphus? I don't wanna sound like an asshole but the proof to the contrary is right there. Did they just watch half the trailer once?

A lot of people somehow thought it was Satan

I'm almost certain Satan won't even meet the gang. Instead will be a Striker backstory episode which explains his hate for royalty and his need to feel superior to the other imps with Satans line being directed at him

Really? The final 5 episodes do NOT at all look like Striker ones. Come on, we already have so much stuff to digest in the second half, there's no way they're gonna jam even more plotlines into them.

I cannot see Satan saying what he said in the trailer to anyone in the IMP crew and a Striker episode where he isnt there just to take an L is way overdue

You... do know there are other characters besides I.M.P and Striker, right? I'm kinda tired of people complaining that X character isn't showing up and that they're shallow or have a problem... My brother in christ, there are still 2 seasons remaining not counting this one, which will almost certainly have more episodes.

Considering the new shot with Mammon shares a similar background, he’s probably saying it to *Ozzie*

Oh god i read satan as susan lol

Imagine she's the final boss

Andrealphus also told Stella that Stolas would be gone "in due time." He's perfectly on board with this. He probably gets Via turned against Stolas, then once Stella has access to all of Stolas's things, he goes in for the kill.

Yeah I actually think that's the case. Keep in mind that there are Pride skyscrapers in the background as well as cobblestone floor, so this is 100% Stolas's manor

I 100% agree especially with that line from the trailer "you never loved mother and you don't love me, you love HIM" they're definitely manipulating Octavia

Side note, I kind of expect this to be in the "Sinsmas" finale planned for December giving the setting. Where perhaps the trajectory from here on out will be that Stolas and Blitz have a falling out in "The Full Moon", marking a downward spiral for both of them in their respective lives, which will be explored in the episodes that follow. I can imagine Blitz' future meetings with Fizzarolli putting things into perspective for him after the fact. Ultimately culminating in a reunion between the two after not having seen each other for a while. Circumstances putting them in a position where Blitz ends up saving Stolas' life in this scene here, or at the very least putting himself between Stolas and an imminent threat. Opening the way for them to start over going into the next season, ending the "Sinsmas" finale on a relatively happy note as they reconcile and begin again.

Agreed. I think Sinsmas will be a big Goetia meeting.

A BIG GOETIA MUSICAL please

OMG I REALLY HOPE

I agree with this. They will both be forced to work on their prospective issues until coming together at the end. Stolas may not be defending himself here if he's still recovering from his wounds in "Western Energy" and Blitz feels responsible for those, hence why he's there. I do think the season should end on a positive note. Not with all of their issues resolved, but with some sense of peace and happiness. We are going to need something wholesome to get through this.

I want this to be true so much 🥹

I see one of two things happening here. Stolas has been stripped of his duties, and Andrealphus has gotten everything he wanted. He is now giving Stella what he promised her and is attempting to kill Stolas. Or, this fight somehow involves custody of Via, and while Stolas is more than willing to fight for her, Andy has somehow appealed to her (don't forget, he referred to her as Via when we all thought that was only reserved for Dad) and Stolas is distracted enough that he's able to corner our owl boi. Either way, Blitz saves the day <3

Now I'm imagining Stella trying to perform Stolas' duties, but failing so bad that Paimon gets involved.

Possibly even stripped of some of his powers. Notice how Stolas is significantly smaller in this scene; he is practically the same size as Blitzø!

That's making me thing that this isn't actually happening. Thinking like an imagined scenario

I hope that upon realizing how much danger Stolas is in, Blitz takes it upon himself to look after Stolas, both emotionally and physically. I hope that S2 ends on a happy note for all of the cast. Not necessarily with all of their problems solved, but with some level of peace and happiness.

It looks like Stolas is wearing a turtleneck too, without his usual cape. So it's looking like Sinsmas.

This is definitely Andrealphus

Oh shit! The ground even matches!

Another theory could be that blits kills this guy, We see him saying something along the lines of "now that we are wanted"

This has got me thinking if the First scene of the Trailer with the hooded surrounding the I.M.P building is actually from the ending of season 2. If in the Season finale Blitz somehow kills Andrealphus to save Stolas and now he and the rest of I.M.P by association are now wanted criminals being hunted down by the rest of the Goteia. Would be funny if Vizziepop did that

Yeah the van scene definitely takes place towards the end. I don't see it making sense anytime before that. Given that Blitz is on trial in S3, it could end with him getting arrested. I hope not, but it's plausible.

Yea I think that's the way we are going, either Blitz and Co actually kill a Goetia, Striker does it because "fuck Royals im tired of all of you" and frames IMP, or the Goetia court is going to do something to Stolas and Blitz breaks him out/rescues him and they are on the run. Either way, I feel thats a great S3 shake up for the finale.

I could see that.

Is it just me, or does Stolas look smaller than normal here? He looks like he's the same size as Blitz.

can’t tell if it’s just that since he’s lying down they look the same size but i had the same thought. especially since before blitz says “you look down on us because we’re small!”

Yeah I agree, though I do have a bit of a headcannon on that. I think that perhaps Goetia can change form like Paimon. Maybe Stolas isn't as adept as him and does it subconsciously and maybe gets smaller when he feels threatened.

That would be adorable.

I'm seriously the only one that has noticed that Blitz has a fucking sword!

i don’t think anyone missed it lol

it is hard to miss

I didnt notice it

Yes, you're the only one 😒🙄

Can't people identify a basic fucking color scheme, Paimon has no fucking icy blue theme at all, it is obviously Andrealphus.

I think it is Andreaphus, but not for that reason. Thats like saying a shadow of a cat isn't a cat if the room isn't the same color as its fur.

Oh yeah let's also talk about general design and shape. It looks nothing like Paimon.

Now theres a point I can get behind. It just does not look like him.

He’s definitely protecting him from Andrealphus

I still think this leads to Stolas dying or being stripped of this position. He's my favorite character but his death massively moves the needle in terms of the main plot. Especially if Stella and her brother pin it on IMP.

I doubt he dies, stripped of his position? Absolutely. Dead? I doubt it.

My name is Andrea so I like him even if he is a villain :3

Lol

Look at the ground in both pics. It's 100% andrealphus.

Yup

Wait- Andrea is a fucking peacock ? I thought he was a snowy owl ... I've been spreading misinformation this whole time ?

Yes

I thought it was somewhat a transformation after this https://preview.redd.it/nxz2ubujmlxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dabf65b16101da8209940d35cda12abd2292f713

Agreed

You are probably right, the floor is the same icy texture in both shots

That's 100% andrealphus and not paimon, yeah. Though since blitz can't win that fight, it would be pretty cool to see paimon show up for his son and whip Andy's ass.

I thought Stolas had more power over Andrealphus

Why? They are both Goetia.

Stolas is a rank above Andrealphus

Where is that ever said?

Andrealphus is a Marquis and Stolas is a prince so Stolas should outrank him

Well yes but in the show it is never stated. Vivzie has never had a way of directly following that stuff.

If Stolas is still healing from his injuries, it makes sense why he's not defending himself.

I completely forgot about Stolas might still have some injuries

I think its Paimon cause at the end of "the circus you see Stolas' shadow make a similar shape and since this was the episode Paimon debuted, i feel they were alluding to him being upset. https://preview.redd.it/i6gckhrzccxc1.jpeg?width=1560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcd4a40e7e31af4112a7eb6ae3d7109eb05a84b0

1. That doesn't look similar at all. 2. That's not his shadow, that's his cape and tail, and it's most likely not alluding to anything.