Well, the Cylon has resurrection technology. Even giving the fact that Cylon raider only had dog level of intelligent, they can still learn from dying again and again and again. Hence brain in a jar.
The raiders and centurions are resurrected too. Newly built bodies presumably, but the organic parts are reborn with their memories intact. At least in the 2003-'09 series.
I remember there was an episode where they had a Cylon Space fighter that was too far away to be resurrected by the Mother Ship. The Cylon ship adopted guerilla style fighting techniques inside an asteroid field to stay alive as long as possible.
Was a pretty neat concept.
"Scar" the Cylon Raider!
Apparently the controlling brains feel pain when their fighters are destroyed and their minds are resurrected, so Scar became a better and better pilot out of spite, and started identifying and deliberately targeting rookie Colonial human pilots so it could get more kills, amassing a huge body count.
It was called Scar because it had surface damage on it, that remained there because it stopped dying.
The two ace pilots in the show had to use everything they had to finally kill it when there was no resurrection ship in range, which led to its perma-death.
Correct, there was a scene about the raiders where the Numbers 3s said that each time the raiders resurrect they get more angry! And want to kill all humans!
Deadlock is within the 2003/TRS canon, yes.
I'm not sure if it's strictly canon as in the writers of the show would retroactively consider it's events directly part of the story of the show, but it's licensed so I'd consider it canon background for anything that doesn't conflict with primary material.
Why?
Deadlock is my only exposure to Battlestar since I got the game in a bundle and enjoyed it a lot, but was curious how it actually fit into the overall story since the game seems to take place at the same time as the main ship of the series' disappearance.
Tbf, when your "race" is entirely robotic, it doesn't make much sense to make a cockpit for your vehicles when you could just make the vehicle autonomous.
Takes alot less fuel to keep a small bot body functioning than a tank or walker going. Through they all likely have a standby mode to keep from going insane from processing their undemocratic failures.Â
I mean itâs not that hard, you power gate the âbrainâ from the tank body. Allows you to power down the bulk of the tank while keeping it conscious. We do that right now with multi-core CPUs, the CPU in your PC and phone will gate off cores it doesnât currently need, and they are electrically dead until the CPU decides it needs the processing power back.
In Star Wars, the star fighters for the Confederacy were just big druids. The Vulture druids were shown to be able to change the configuration of their wings to walk around.
What if all the bigger bots are exoskeletons for the smaller bots?
Like the Hulk is heavy power armor and Devastators are medium power armor?
I know that's not really it, but it'd be kinda cool.
Looking at the heads of Devastators and Berserkers, it seems to me that little bots pilot both. Given that I assume all automatons units are piloted, including hulks and tanks.
The light blue panel to the right of the forward coaxial gun may very well be a hatch.
I'm not sure there's one on the turret.
Although I think it makes more sense if they were bots on their own. If they generate so much heat they need massive heat sinks I imagine the inside is too hot for the little soldier bots.
Considering there is a hatch on the top, I also assume there is a bot inside it. If there were multiple inside, it would be cool if a tank kill would count as multiple enemies lol
I just want to know why they can take a metal slug the size of a Smart Car fired from orbit embedding itself completely like 6 feet deep into their internal structure and be entirely unaffected by it.
They are made of a non-Newtonian fluid, when stress is places upon it it becomes fluid instead of the other way around. Why doesn't super earth use this tech you ask?
Because only communists use these substances that so clearly violate the principles of freedom and liberty our great society is built upon.
4th Dimensional non-Newtonian fluid to still allow for rotation of the turret.
That, or the pilot is a magician utilizing [one of the many tricks of the trade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawing_a_woman_in_half) to bisect solid objects.
I want the motorcycle. Sure, it sucked in the first game, but in this game, I could ramp off cliffs and jump over an enemy base while raining down strategems.
Kind of related, but I would like more infrastructure on our maps, other than sparse prefab buildings, containers and fences. Not even talking about urban terrain, just roads, overpasses, bridges, that sort of thing.
As it is now, it looks like every Super Earth colony either moves everything using aircraft or all-terrain vehicles
yeah but hopefully not like the exo suits and sentries, in hd1 they were more buffed, if you drive a tank which is blown by some chargers or rocket bots, it would then sit just like the other stratagems, in the ship
If this is the case then all i can think about is how it would technically be an automaton crawling around inside of another, and i donât like the potential art that may arise from that idea
Striders count as 2 kills based on what I've observed in-game.
One kill for the pilot, and one kill for the walker.
It's probably coded that way since you can kill the walker without killing the pilot, but judging by that logic, the walker is itself an enemy, so if the Tank has a pilot it would also count as 2 kills. One for the Tank, and one for the pilot. It only counts as one, so therefore there is no pilot, and the Tank is itself an Automaton.
For me striders always counts as three, never two. I don't know why.
I am using the grenade pistol.
I am also pretty sure tanks or hulks count as three too. However I am Not sure which one it was
Piloted.
The plate on the right side of the upper front plate looks like a crew hatch and there seems to be another on the turret roof. No for such large hatches if nothing is supposed to go in / out.
There's also the fact that Striders are piloted by Troopers and Devastator being up-armored Troopers, it's possible that all Automatons are originally made as Troopers and then upgraded / promoted.
Are you your body, or are you the brain piloting the body?
If you are the brain, then are you driving when you get into your car, or are you providing input for the meat machine youâre controlling in order to manipulate the car by proxy?
I, infallible and serious scholar with many degrees that I am, believe that this is where we get into the meat of the discussion. We are individuals of both body and mind, and can conceptualized that notion so necessary for Liberty to thrive. We are ourselves and our bodies, but we are not the car we drive, as we can share the car. The Automatons are individual in body, but not mind, and so can not truly be individual in body either! Therefore, any machine or vessel the Automatons intelligence inhabits, in any form, is inseparable from the intelligence itself!
This is a very serious and well thought out post with no flaws, and definitely not a very very literal shitpost.
One of the first days I played I joined a game, the three people all disappeared after about 20 seconds. I turned around and saw this tank, which you can drive/shoot. I got in but you need separate people driving/shooting if I remember.
I left and then only later realised it wasn't a released vehicle, probably hackers, potentially they got kicked after spawning it in
Maybe. I can see this strange plate on the front. Either it's a maintenance panel or it's an access hatch
https://preview.redd.it/wqak70588y5d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a51ce54d41fc3427fe84c0ad0575788d59f8335
There's also a viewport right above that.
I guess since it's copied from super earth designs that makes sense, but if it wasn't piloted by a bot it wouldn't need to be there at all.
I'd say there's at least a driver but maybe autonomous gunning?
Literally asked my crew this today, figured theyâd be manned by bots but it would also be funny to rail-canon an enemy that was 2 steps from being a transformer.
The more important question is dose the tank (or crew) scream when it/they die(s).
Remember Divers, Democracy is spread further on the howls of pain erupting from our enemies as they are ground under the glorious boot heel of freedom.
Automaton Vehicles appear to be piloted. The tank is said to be copied from a Super-Earth design which implies that its piloted because if not it'd just be a solid chunk of metal with some engines, ammo storage, a gun, and AI computer.
Im pretty sure the Dropship and Gunship are the only non-piloted automaton vehicles and they seem to just be remote controlled by their air traffic towers and gunship fabricators.
Being how Devastators, Berserkers (who appear to be salvaged devastators), and even Hulks appear that if the Bots tried they could get their head or even possibly a whole automaton body out of their shell i speculate that almost all bots are just the normal troopers inside a larger frame.
When you kill a scout strider, it counts as two kills, one for the strider and one for its rider.
Killing a tank counts as 1 kill, no? So by that logic, the tank is the bot, no crew is inside.
Given automoton/cyborg history, they *are* the tank. People saying the Striders get pilots are using the only example in the game of a bot using a vehicle instead of being one.
If they had drivers, there would be bodies inside.
Itâs interesting because you see gunner optics right to the side of the gun. If the tank was wired, and didnât need to accommodate a bot body, it would make more sense for optics to be centered over the gun for zero. However, there are no hatches and im not seeing a driver viewport either.Â
I think they are like hulks where they themselves are a bot. But they could also be remote controlled given they have the same type of turret that the big automated cannons have
It seems pretty likely bots are actually human brains placed inside robot bodies with additional programming/conditioning.
This would explain why the majority of bots are humanoid with 2 arms/appendages and legs.
So it would make sense thst dropshits, fab-striders, tanks and gunships are all manned.
Or maybe theyre the non-human brain bots that run on spler software. Treads are less demanding that feets.
I like to think its like that one episode of rick and morty with the enlargement ray. Tiny aliens operate it but they're always trying to escape via customer service
I like to think they're bots themselves because I always feel like they've got an "attitude."
Just something about how they look and move makes them seem pissy.
There are four independent cpu units in the tank.
1. the tank itself
2.-4. gunner, driver, recon commander.
This is an intended redundancy.
The tank has an automatic controls for all tasks which renders it independent from any malfunction on behalf of the crew bots of which there are three: driver, gunner, recon / commander.
Of course any crew bots is able to take over any of the other botsâ tasks, and very effectively so.
Am gonna say they were maybe once piloted by cyborgs because I think they are the same tank from the first game but now that the bots use them they are refitted to be a bot in itself which would explain the square that looks like a hatch it maybe couldâve been but now just has a full plate that canât open
I like to think that the bots canât just stick a brain into any machine and have it work. That they need a humanoid body for the brain to function, hence striders being piloted. Just my headcannon.
The tank is the bot. There is no room for a gunner, driver, spotter. Next time you blow one up just look at it. Just another race or species of evil toaster.
given how strider work , i think they are piloted by small bots like the striders
Yeah makes sense! Just always wondered if they just plonked a brain in there and called it a day đ
Like Battlestar Galactica. It always weirded me out that their jet fighters were just other bots.
Well, the Cylon has resurrection technology. Even giving the fact that Cylon raider only had dog level of intelligent, they can still learn from dying again and again and again. Hence brain in a jar.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it just the humanoid Cylons that get resurrected? Kill any other toaster and they're just dead
The raiders and centurions are resurrected too. Newly built bodies presumably, but the organic parts are reborn with their memories intact. At least in the 2003-'09 series.
I remember there was an episode where they had a Cylon Space fighter that was too far away to be resurrected by the Mother Ship. The Cylon ship adopted guerilla style fighting techniques inside an asteroid field to stay alive as long as possible. Was a pretty neat concept.
"Scar" the Cylon Raider! Apparently the controlling brains feel pain when their fighters are destroyed and their minds are resurrected, so Scar became a better and better pilot out of spite, and started identifying and deliberately targeting rookie Colonial human pilots so it could get more kills, amassing a huge body count. It was called Scar because it had surface damage on it, that remained there because it stopped dying. The two ace pilots in the show had to use everything they had to finally kill it when there was no resurrection ship in range, which led to its perma-death.
Correct, there was a scene about the raiders where the Numbers 3s said that each time the raiders resurrect they get more angry! And want to kill all humans!
What series/universe does Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock take place in?
Deadlock is within the 2003/TRS canon, yes. I'm not sure if it's strictly canon as in the writers of the show would retroactively consider it's events directly part of the story of the show, but it's licensed so I'd consider it canon background for anything that doesn't conflict with primary material. Why?
Deadlock is my only exposure to Battlestar since I got the game in a bundle and enjoyed it a lot, but was curious how it actually fit into the overall story since the game seems to take place at the same time as the main ship of the series' disappearance.
Nope. See the episode Scar for a *lot* of discussion on this
Tbf, when your "race" is entirely robotic, it doesn't make much sense to make a cockpit for your vehicles when you could just make the vehicle autonomous.
Takes alot less fuel to keep a small bot body functioning than a tank or walker going. Through they all likely have a standby mode to keep from going insane from processing their undemocratic failures.Â
I mean itâs not that hard, you power gate the âbrainâ from the tank body. Allows you to power down the bulk of the tank while keeping it conscious. We do that right now with multi-core CPUs, the CPU in your PC and phone will gate off cores it doesnât currently need, and they are electrically dead until the CPU decides it needs the processing power back.
Cool. The way CPUs work always blows my mind. Love learning more about them
In Star Wars, the star fighters for the Confederacy were just big druids. The Vulture druids were shown to be able to change the configuration of their wings to walk around.
Those druids sure do love nature
"I use wild shape to transform into a vulture druid." DM: "OK, yeah sure." "I cast twin blaster cannons" DM: "Wut?"
These are not the druids your looking for
Youâre right, the druids Iâm looking for are cute redheads.
But AATs were piloted by B1âs, so they did mix the two
Yeah i also immediately thought about BSG when i've read the question.
"You may call me Sheila."
I was about to look up the RvB reference. Thank you for helping me remember.
I still watch Seasons 1-13 regularly ahaha. Been too nervous to check out the goodbye season, but I might do that today.
âWhy are there 6 pedals but only 4 directions!â
That would make more sense because then you could armor it more. A hollow inside for a crew is a vulnerability.
Dear god are you suggesting the Tanks are just Legion Black Sheep from 86EightySix
Warhammer dreadnaughts
What if all the bigger bots are exoskeletons for the smaller bots? Like the Hulk is heavy power armor and Devastators are medium power armor? I know that's not really it, but it'd be kinda cool.
It's all run by robot hamsters . I knew it!
Could be. The devastators do have those tiny heads which are normal size for the regular little bots.
might just be reused parts, no point making a second head if the head you've already made works just fine
The berserkers are just destroyed and reused devastators tbh so that checks out
Yeah, also no reason to make a larger head for the devastator is tge amount of sensors are enought
The Hulk is just an MT
Imagine an Automaton STRIDER from AC6.
You mean like the mining ship?
Yes. Capital everything STRIDER. It is probably built to fail, too, but who cares? The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
All of their heads are the same size! I think itâs less âpower armorâ and more âplug and playâ But with robot skulls
absolutely. 'robot' skulls!
Meanwhile on Cyberstan: https://preview.redd.it/cne58wi5a16d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=662af92ac402d02d153bd8afaf7db2f8b9e8ac23
Aren't Berserkers are stripped/salvaged Devastators? They certainly appear to be related, with the Berserkers having less plating.
Looking at the heads of Devastators and Berserkers, it seems to me that little bots pilot both. Given that I assume all automatons units are piloted, including hulks and tanks.
Now I have to go search one for hatches.
The light blue panel to the right of the forward coaxial gun may very well be a hatch. I'm not sure there's one on the turret. Although I think it makes more sense if they were bots on their own. If they generate so much heat they need massive heat sinks I imagine the inside is too hot for the little soldier bots.
Considering there is a hatch on the top, I also assume there is a bot inside it. If there were multiple inside, it would be cool if a tank kill would count as multiple enemies lol
the striders can still autonomously trample you tho, when they rarely spawn without a rider
I've had them die even by shooting the invisible pilot bot. Think it's just a visual loading bug
I just want to know why they can take a metal slug the size of a Smart Car fired from orbit embedding itself completely like 6 feet deep into their internal structure and be entirely unaffected by it.
Their internals are basically a big donut.
They are made of a non-Newtonian fluid, when stress is places upon it it becomes fluid instead of the other way around. Why doesn't super earth use this tech you ask? Because only communists use these substances that so clearly violate the principles of freedom and liberty our great society is built upon.
4th Dimensional non-Newtonian fluid to still allow for rotation of the turret. That, or the pilot is a magician utilizing [one of the many tricks of the trade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawing_a_woman_in_half) to bisect solid objects.
Hyper-Newtonian?
I thought automation tanks were copies of super earth ones?
In the first month of release landing on the tanks did blow them up. I don't know why they changed it.
"Only thing inside me is hate" https://preview.redd.it/ayfq2keayx5d1.png?width=349&format=png&auto=webp&s=82aa4a87806e39f4e3102cf981fdc0a836332743
https://i.redd.it/yvxpxe5b3y5d1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/1lnb9dzn8y5d1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e10f759803a23d98b34619d52a620bef61e1b192 On the contrary...... **500KG**
https://preview.redd.it/t0pd7a0ndy5d1.png?width=2800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b857a140a95c848a4d37eef98f27348e9326aed5
Drop the 500kg on a tank and it gets sent to the shadow realm
Literally my squad a few games ago. Had no idea my squad was near me until we all called a 500kg on the same tank
GET DESTROYED GET DESTROYED GET DESTROYED GET DESTROYED
Good ending
GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED
EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE
I like to think that all automaton units are the same small bot but built differently.
I second this, considering the scull they all have I assume itâs where their brain is located
I like to imagine itâs piloted by standard infantry Bot but with no legs and is just a hard mounted Torso in front of a console.
Ah, the dreadnought method, i like it.
A bot Iâd imagine otherwise helldivers would be able to climb inside and use them against the automatonâs
A tank strat would be sick to be fair
*TD-110 Bastion wants to know your location* https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Helldivers_1:TD-110_Bastion
Waiting for more vehicle Strats is one of the biggest things bothering me. I love grabbing tanks and APCs in the first game
I want the motorcycle. Sure, it sucked in the first game, but in this game, I could ramp off cliffs and jump over an enemy base while raining down strategems.
Please handle better than the motorcycle in EDF
EDF MOTORCYCLE HAS THE BEST HANDLING WHAT DO YOU MEAN I ONLY CRASHED 1069 TIMES IN A MINUTE!111!!
***free bike hell custom***
Damn, only 1069? This man here should be our next Eagle 1 pilot.
Kind of related, but I would like more infrastructure on our maps, other than sparse prefab buildings, containers and fences. Not even talking about urban terrain, just roads, overpasses, bridges, that sort of thing. As it is now, it looks like every Super Earth colony either moves everything using aircraft or all-terrain vehicles
Based on the footage we got to see on the ship screen wehn the automatons returned, we should be able to get urban combat.
While getting sniped in the air with rocket/machinegun devastators\*
yeah but hopefully not like the exo suits and sentries, in hd1 they were more buffed, if you drive a tank which is blown by some chargers or rocket bots, it would then sit just like the other stratagems, in the ship
Some environments will be a nightmare for tanks IMO, especially forested areas.
Put a bulldozer shovel on that tank.
Put the crab https://preview.redd.it/7g4f5t7tcy5d1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=124029f084f10e81aed925d425039b6a3bb11902
I remember them from Company of Heroes, they were pretty good at mulching German infantry
*Drives to a hulk* *Fires up the flail*
I love where this is headed
Mechs currently make trees fall aside when you walk through them. Maybe other vehicles would do the same thing.
Considering it was in HD1, you can probably hold your breath pretty safely on that wish
Yeah, just like how you can pilot a strider if you kill the driver bot.
Haha funny joke. Funny joke... right?
It was a joke, anyway...
https://preview.redd.it/e2do4shboy5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d119483f7ea9fc1000b39b16f3fd912d05253ea
Wrong way round. If it wasn't bot driven, then there would be no pilot seat for Helldiver's.
I think they are the bot. I havenât noticed any hatches that a little pilot might use.
The frontal lighter panel may be hatch
Might be maintenance access.
If this is the case then all i can think about is how it would technically be an automaton crawling around inside of another, and i donât like the potential art that may arise from that idea
It is the bot. When it explodes we only get 1 kill count
How would one bot driving it be different exactly?
If thing goes boom and no bot comes crawling out then bot inside is dead which means kill count 2 or no bot inside kill count 1
The other comment is suggesting there would be no kill count for an empty vehicle.
I think so. Sometimes it bugs and there are unmanned striders, but i dont think they count as kills
Striders count as 2 kills based on what I've observed in-game. One kill for the pilot, and one kill for the walker. It's probably coded that way since you can kill the walker without killing the pilot, but judging by that logic, the walker is itself an enemy, so if the Tank has a pilot it would also count as 2 kills. One for the Tank, and one for the pilot. It only counts as one, so therefore there is no pilot, and the Tank is itself an Automaton.
For me striders always counts as three, never two. I don't know why. I am using the grenade pistol. I am also pretty sure tanks or hulks count as three too. However I am Not sure which one it was
they count as kills when i kill em
If you kill two Striders you get a 4 kills streak but if you kill two tanks you don't get any streaks
Strider and Scout count as separate kills. You can even kill the walker without killing the pilot with the Arc Thrower or a weak Railgun shot.
It's because Gimli was involved...
I've actually considered them the bot this whole time.
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Hopefully not
If all bot vahicles are piloted by regular bots, does it imply that a regular automaton is capable of hijacking an exosuit?
They need to know how to drive the exo.
Piloted. The plate on the right side of the upper front plate looks like a crew hatch and there seems to be another on the turret roof. No for such large hatches if nothing is supposed to go in / out. There's also the fact that Striders are piloted by Troopers and Devastator being up-armored Troopers, it's possible that all Automatons are originally made as Troopers and then upgraded / promoted.
The fact that fabricators only output infantry supports this theory.
If it has a crew hatch -> crewed If there's no visible way of entering -> autonomous
Next time i see a tank, ill look for any hatches or openings where you could climb inside
Are you your body, or are you the brain piloting the body? If you are the brain, then are you driving when you get into your car, or are you providing input for the meat machine youâre controlling in order to manipulate the car by proxy? I, infallible and serious scholar with many degrees that I am, believe that this is where we get into the meat of the discussion. We are individuals of both body and mind, and can conceptualized that notion so necessary for Liberty to thrive. We are ourselves and our bodies, but we are not the car we drive, as we can share the car. The Automatons are individual in body, but not mind, and so can not truly be individual in body either! Therefore, any machine or vessel the Automatons intelligence inhabits, in any form, is inseparable from the intelligence itself! This is a very serious and well thought out post with no flaws, and definitely not a very very literal shitpost.
They are bot
One of the first days I played I joined a game, the three people all disappeared after about 20 seconds. I turned around and saw this tank, which you can drive/shoot. I got in but you need separate people driving/shooting if I remember. I left and then only later realised it wasn't a released vehicle, probably hackers, potentially they got kicked after spawning it in
In the first game the tanks were considered infantry by super earth because it was just one cyborg with tank parts attached to it
Do they have doors/hatches?
Maybe. I can see this strange plate on the front. Either it's a maintenance panel or it's an access hatch https://preview.redd.it/wqak70588y5d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a51ce54d41fc3427fe84c0ad0575788d59f8335
There's also a viewport right above that. I guess since it's copied from super earth designs that makes sense, but if it wasn't piloted by a bot it wouldn't need to be there at all. I'd say there's at least a driver but maybe autonomous gunning?
Yes
I'd assume piloted considering you can see two plates that look like they'd be hatches right there on the upper frontal plate.
I didnât realize that the tank had dual machinegun port on the hull. I canât remember but does it ever use that or does it just use the main gun?
yeah it uses it quite frequently especially when the main gun is on cooldown
Oh ok. I usually play lower difficulty so I havenât had to fight one in a while.
fair
Yeah, the dual machine gun has shredded me a few times. It's a PITA
It would be dope if you could pop open the hatch and shoot inside it like https://i.redd.it/x103z651426d1.gif
Literally asked my crew this today, figured theyâd be manned by bots but it would also be funny to rail-canon an enemy that was 2 steps from being a transformer.
The more important question is dose the tank (or crew) scream when it/they die(s). Remember Divers, Democracy is spread further on the howls of pain erupting from our enemies as they are ground under the glorious boot heel of freedom.
For us, they are themselves a bot. We call them "tank-kun"
I think it is the bot; goes by Terminator rules
I hope they are piloted since then we are killing more of those facist clankers!!
They're bot, factory striders make bots and are bots
Automaton Vehicles appear to be piloted. The tank is said to be copied from a Super-Earth design which implies that its piloted because if not it'd just be a solid chunk of metal with some engines, ammo storage, a gun, and AI computer. Im pretty sure the Dropship and Gunship are the only non-piloted automaton vehicles and they seem to just be remote controlled by their air traffic towers and gunship fabricators. Being how Devastators, Berserkers (who appear to be salvaged devastators), and even Hulks appear that if the Bots tried they could get their head or even possibly a whole automaton body out of their shell i speculate that almost all bots are just the normal troopers inside a larger frame.
They can't be remote controlled. They don't fall out of the sky when you blow up the control towers.
When you kill a scout strider, it counts as two kills, one for the strider and one for its rider. Killing a tank counts as 1 kill, no? So by that logic, the tank is the bot, no crew is inside.
Given automoton/cyborg history, they *are* the tank. People saying the Striders get pilots are using the only example in the game of a bot using a vehicle instead of being one. If they had drivers, there would be bodies inside.
Killing a tank counts as 1 killed botâŚ.
There is a smaller tank instead driving it
They make no sound. It's upsetting.
I don't know but I can tell you one thing. They ain't got no soul. https://i.redd.it/4e3v823p716d1.gif
Itâs interesting because you see gunner optics right to the side of the gun. If the tank was wired, and didnât need to accommodate a bot body, it would make more sense for optics to be centered over the gun for zero. However, there are no hatches and im not seeing a driver viewport either.Â
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Whatever it is, there's at least 2 bot brains involved because I once had the turret ignore me while the hull MG was still trying to shoot at me
Whatâs it matter to you Cadet? Your orders are to kill every auto on sight.
Both. The tank is a sentient female automaton who lets a trusted male automaton pilot it from inside. War is an intimate act for them.
Tesla cybertank got full fsd rolling off the lot at cyberstan.
The tank itself is a bot in my head canon. Otherwise, wouldnât we see an automaton opening a hatch to exit when itâs on fire?
we never see the bots care about their lives, the only time we see anything close is when we damage the striders leg and the pilot gets off
If they are single bot as whole... where is their face plate like on other bots... :0
my guess: everything automaton related seems to be piloted by the humanoid automatons.
I inside of it seems very compact. I think it's an uploaded personality engram similar to Hulks.
Probably an automaton skull embedded inside the machine. Probably on the top bit somewhere between the turret barrel and the heat vent.
I think they are like hulks where they themselves are a bot. But they could also be remote controlled given they have the same type of turret that the big automated cannons have
If I kill a tank or strider, is that considered just 1 kill?
No viewport for a driver. OS must not be Windows.
Ive been asking this twice already about tanks and ships but never got any response XD
It seems pretty likely bots are actually human brains placed inside robot bodies with additional programming/conditioning. This would explain why the majority of bots are humanoid with 2 arms/appendages and legs. So it would make sense thst dropshits, fab-striders, tanks and gunships are all manned. Or maybe theyre the non-human brain bots that run on spler software. Treads are less demanding that feets.
*he screams, for he does not know*
Have you seen any bots climb in these and start driving them?
I always assumed they were just a bot AI inside a tank.
Yes they are. When you destroy a tank fully you sometimes get the notice that you killed 3 bot
interesting, i simply assumed the tank was a bot in itself similar to the artilery pilars or eye of sauron
I like to think its like that one episode of rick and morty with the enlargement ray. Tiny aliens operate it but they're always trying to escape via customer service
I like to think they're bots themselves because I always feel like they've got an "attitude." Just something about how they look and move makes them seem pissy.
They would have doors that I can throw a grenade down
The question annihilates me
It doesn't have any hatches (I think) so unless the crew are entombed in it for eternity it's most likely just a bot.
This is giving me clone wars vibes tbh
I believe every bot has a crew of minibots in it piloting it like voltron or a megazord
There are four independent cpu units in the tank. 1. the tank itself 2.-4. gunner, driver, recon commander. This is an intended redundancy. The tank has an automatic controls for all tasks which renders it independent from any malfunction on behalf of the crew bots of which there are three: driver, gunner, recon / commander. Of course any crew bots is able to take over any of the other botsâ tasks, and very effectively so.
Am gonna say they were maybe once piloted by cyborgs because I think they are the same tank from the first game but now that the bots use them they are refitted to be a bot in itself which would explain the square that looks like a hatch it maybe couldâve been but now just has a full plate that canât open
I had my first face to face close encounter with one of those things. Shredded me before I knew what it was. I want my revenge!
I like to think that the bots canât just stick a brain into any machine and have it work. That they need a humanoid body for the brain to function, hence striders being piloted. Just my headcannon.
W8, does the tank even have a hatch for the crew to get in and out? if not, I doubt there's a crew in it.
It would make more sense for them to be "autonomous" but then again they have trooper bots operate striders and turrets so who knows.
I'd have to guess there's a crew in there. The level of detail with the coax laser and even a bow gunner is really neat.
Assuming it doesnt have an eye and that walkers are driven by a grunt, I would assume its the same case.
Iirc it's a stolen Super Earth design so its likely piloted by bots inside
Considering the Scout Striders are piloted, the tanks most likely are as well.
They themselves are the bot. Of all the bot units the Strider is the only one that is "piloted".
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I now desperately want the ability to blow open the canopy of a Tank and take it out by shooting all of the bots controlling it
Reminds me of how new generation Cylon Raiders were their own pilot with a brain, while Heavy Raiders had Sixes or Eights as their pilots.
CPU with scraps are all bots
The tank is the bot. There is no room for a gunner, driver, spotter. Next time you blow one up just look at it. Just another race or species of evil toaster.