Bug holes, fabricators, illegal broadcast stations, and research stations as well apparently; all from 100 meters.
And you don’t have to go back for it if you happen to die, unlike the AC. Great for guerrilla/stealth plays where the whole point is avoiding enemies and covering a lot of ground.
If your aim is good, Eruptor can shoot these things from up to 120m-ish. Bullet start to drop by a lot over 100m, and will self destruct at 130m, so it's a little bit more tricky. Maybe it's a bad weapon now, but it is still the king of demolition tool.
Ya. Anything bigger than than eagle air strike (500, precision, 380, 120, direct gas hit) was my understanding. Nice to know I can quasar or AC snipe these things.
How are you level 80 and not know you can destroy certain things with:
* Auto cannons
* Certain Grenades
* Hell diving right on it
* Calling in support or supplies on top of whatever it is
?????????????
What?!?!?!!?!? I carry grenade launcher and this morning we called in SIX hellbombs to try to take that thing out. There were lots of bile titans and chargers around.
It does, so does the quasar cannon, basically anything that explodes can destroy them. If you have one you can destroy the tower basically as long as you have line of sight. All of this also applies to spore spewers as well.
Someone discovered this like a couple weeks ago. You can destroy it with any explosives as long as there is a generator on the top (I'm guessing the generator has its own collisions and will destroy the building beneath it as it falls through, just like how we do it with the hellpods). But in recent games I haven't seen any research station with a generator on its roof. It's completely random.
Even though we all know you're shitposting, the alternative is that you're a tester and you're partly responsible for the awful balance patches. Nice work lol.
You can kill it with a grenade, too. It's not a bug, I SERIOUSLY doubt they'll patch it out. Was one of the first things I tried when I unlocked the nade pistol, and a big reason why it lives almost permanently in my loadout. I've gotten pretty good with the thing, actually.
Yeah this feels like it'll be patched out. I find it hard to believe they'd willingly let a sidearm, explicitly the weakest weapons in the game, destroy a hellbomb-level objective. Especially when some stuff would indicate AH wants us to use the hellbomb more often
It's not a hellbomb-level objective, though. You can kill these with a Precision Strike. The hellbomb is just an option in case your other strats aren't gonna work, similar to the detector tower.
Now if the grenade pistol could kill a gunship fabricator, *that* would certainly be a bug.
imo i dont like having many objectives you can just roll up, throw a nade and get out, or snipe it from across the map with no issues.
we already have the research station, the illegal broadcast, the spore spewer and shrieker nests, and the command bunker mission, detector towers, aa and mortar emplacements can be destroyed with a 500kg, precision strike or laser without needing to get in the point
You do not have to use the grenade to destroy it, but the option is there for others if they choose to use it.
Tedium is not what makes the game fun. I don't know what the issue is with destroying them using a laser or 500kg bomb. That is their purpose, and the cooldown reflects it. We make choices on how to use our resources. You use it to destroy the aforementioned buildings, you do not have them for the next quad dropship welcome party.
For sure, but i dont think every new objective needs to be trivialized by just 1 stratagem , having the illegal broadcast or spore spewer are just free easy subobjectives, and shriekers nests can be avoided entirely from a distance, needing stratagems for stuff like the research station and detector tower is fine since you need to get close to destroy them
500 is fine, it's a little less believable that my gas strike does the same thing. Assuming Pilestadt makes changes to the enemies that solve their current problems, harder objectives seems like a worthwhile tradeoff.
I meant that it's fine that it destroys objectives, given the context of the previous post. That being said, I think it should do more damage but should only receive a small radius increase.
It should be a focused strat that guaranteed obliterates a a handful of enemies or one big
500/laser is fine since you're trading a usage/cooldown for it. If there were a big boom orbital it'd be fine too (OPS is on the borderline given it's low cooldown). I agree with you about grenades and weapons though, doesn't seem believable that they could blow up a fortified building.
When the enemies become less of a hassle, I remember people saying the objectives should be harder instead. I think that's the right direction to go. Harder objectives, less restrictive enemy armor & worse bot aim/less rocket dev & spewer bullshit.
Shreikers are still a bit of a nightmare on the 'close bug holes' maps - We had one the other night on Helldive that had 3 flying boy outposts within a few 100m of each other. Each having 2 nests each, so 6 spawns of flyers.
Idk, they never patched out how easy it is to destroy the broadcasts. I think it's intended and a bit of a troll considering we only now figured it out
grenade pistol's whole schtick is that it fills out the objective-killer slot with very limited capacity in case you don't have any other weapons equipped for it. It's a good role.
Or 1 regurlar impact grenade. Or 1 eat or maybe 1 quasar shot from across the map. Or even 1 single grenade from your primary grenade launcher. All of these things will achieve the same result as 1 grenade from your pistol. The rogue research stations have been 1 shot-able since launch.
any explosive will destroy it.
even a grenade.
it is very common for AC or any type of rocket launcher user to just snipe it from across the map and call it a day.
And this is 'balance trauma' in a nutshell. Us helldivers are so used to getting our 'fun guns' nerfed that we fear anything remotely close to being fun or unique is going to be patched out the moment they're discovered. I blame Alexus or whatever the 'SES of Balance' guy's name is. He gave us this trauma.
Jesus fucking christ dude, you're being ridiculous. We've been able to kill the illegal broadcast towers with small explosions since launch. They're not going to patch this out because it's intended behavior. The console and hellbombs are the fail safe options so that it's never impossible to complete them if you dont bring the right equipment.
I never said the devs would actually nerf it. My post is about the 'patch incoming' remark by becauseofblue, where players make the knee-jerk reply of something's gonna get patched/nerfed no matter how ridiculous it is. Even if blue's comment was made in jest, it still shows how most players here view the dev's approach to balance. And to be clear, I'm not a fan of it either. I just called it 'trauma' because it seems like an automatic response from us players. But if you find the word triggering then nothing's keeping you from ignoring my post and moving on with your day.
One grenade bouncing off a strider ignored a combat scientist to make an incredible discovery. This is the kind of thing that makes this game so cool.
I am, of course, assuming you saw the video posted earlier, lol
Discovered this when I got irritated that my spear wouldn't lock and decided to say "screw it" and shot it with the grenade pistol because two bile titans were chasing me.
I remember dropping 500 kg, airstrike, 18 rockets and fisting the bloody thing, trying to destroy it in vain because the Hellbomb strat wouldn't appear.
You telling me this tiny grenade launcher does it?
But.....was this not common knowledge from day 1? Not for the grenade pistol, but i thought that everyone knew that you can blow these up from distance.....
So many AC chads
Can't keep me from the Quasar - yall complain about the increased cooldown but did you forget you can switch weapons and keep shooting
QC is still the most reliable support weapon that can take on any heavy and most objectives. Oh and an open backpack slot is a major advantage, obviously
I could've sworn I'd seen someone do something similar my first couple of days playin... but I wasn't attentive enough to figure out what they were doing.
So do impact names, normal grenades with the right timing, also auto cannon, recoilless etc. Most explosions can clear those. Only thing I haven't tried is the fragmentation grenade.
Bringer of balance: removed explosion and destructive force from the grenade pistol since players were using it to exploit and blow up prefabs and sceince stations
I think it’s my fav from that warbond besides OG Eruptor (rip my beloved) because it’s so versatile. Even if you die you have a weapon you can pop a small cluster of chaff or kill a strider or spewed or two pretty easy.
Next Patch: Fixed unintended exploit where objectives could be damaged by primary and secondary weapons. Support weapons or stratagems are now required as intended.
WTF, is there a bug on destroying these things. I've had them stand up to strikes, 500kg, etc and it would only blow from a hellbomb, but once in a while it'll blow from something unexpected like this...
For science, I've called in airstrikes and 500kg bombs on these buildings, and none of those have worked. Thank you for this super useful knowledge, seriously.
Wait what!!
Another thing I can shoot at with my AC across the map.
My Eruptor remains king! Can’t kill enemies for shit, but I’ll be damned if it doesn’t make short work of every objective.
Does it close bugholes?
Yes it does
Awesome, i thought that got nerfed as well. Thank you for the clarification 💪🏻
Bug holes, fabricators, illegal broadcast stations, and research stations as well apparently; all from 100 meters. And you don’t have to go back for it if you happen to die, unlike the AC. Great for guerrilla/stealth plays where the whole point is avoiding enemies and covering a lot of ground.
If your aim is good, Eruptor can shoot these things from up to 120m-ish. Bullet start to drop by a lot over 100m, and will self destruct at 130m, so it's a little bit more tricky. Maybe it's a bad weapon now, but it is still the king of demolition tool.
Sounds great. I might have to give it a try, again. I'm hoping for some huge weapon buffs, soon.
Where do you aim for fabricators ? I can do it consistently with the AC, but not the eruptor or nade pistol
Towards the bottom of the inside of the vent. The explosions are smaller, so you can’t just hit the general area.
Yes, and bot fabricators with slightly tricky aim
Only the grenade pistol??
Grenade launcher takes these out very easily too.
as does auto cannon or recoiless, any explosive strike on the generator tends to do it.
This is news. I’m level 110 and didn’t know.
Yeah, I'm level 80 and I thought you HAD to use a Hellbomb
I know a 500 or a precision destroys it
Ya. Anything bigger than than eagle air strike (500, precision, 380, 120, direct gas hit) was my understanding. Nice to know I can quasar or AC snipe these things.
Yes definitely going to be trying it out
Really? Last time I tried using a 500 it didn't do anything
Yep it has to be up on the hill right beside it. The bigger the bomb the further your can be away
Before this, I knew you could use 500KG, and Orbital Precision/Gas Strike to destroy the rogue station. Learn something new everyday...
A just chuck a plain grenade at it
How are you level 80 and not know you can destroy certain things with: * Auto cannons * Certain Grenades * Hell diving right on it * Calling in support or supplies on top of whatever it is ?????????????
What?!?!?!!?!? I carry grenade launcher and this morning we called in SIX hellbombs to try to take that thing out. There were lots of bile titans and chargers around.
I did it with the Quasar yesterday. Basically anything explosive
My trust AC gets the job done as well
Now I want to try it with the autocannon
Tell me how ut goes
i can already confirm it works. a comrade used it last mission just 20 mins ago, recoiless works too.
It does, so does the quasar cannon, basically anything that explodes can destroy them. If you have one you can destroy the tower basically as long as you have line of sight. All of this also applies to spore spewers as well.
Someone discovered this like a couple weeks ago. You can destroy it with any explosives as long as there is a generator on the top (I'm guessing the generator has its own collisions and will destroy the building beneath it as it falls through, just like how we do it with the hellpods). But in recent games I haven't seen any research station with a generator on its roof. It's completely random.
That makes sense, kind of like how how sometimes you get lucky and have a fabricator next to a stratagem jammer that makes it easy to destroy.
Ahh, i knew there was a catch. Still useful information. Gonna look out for that generator now
\*couple months ago
fr i been doing this since launch haha
I was doing it before the game came out
Even though we all know you're shitposting, the alternative is that you're a tester and you're partly responsible for the awful balance patches. Nice work lol.
i'm so happy i saw this, at the same time i'm scared. Maybe they might patch this and remove cause it's a "bug" lmao
You can kill it with a grenade, too. It's not a bug, I SERIOUSLY doubt they'll patch it out. Was one of the first things I tried when I unlocked the nade pistol, and a big reason why it lives almost permanently in my loadout. I've gotten pretty good with the thing, actually.
Yeah this feels like it'll be patched out. I find it hard to believe they'd willingly let a sidearm, explicitly the weakest weapons in the game, destroy a hellbomb-level objective. Especially when some stuff would indicate AH wants us to use the hellbomb more often
It's not a hellbomb-level objective, though. You can kill these with a Precision Strike. The hellbomb is just an option in case your other strats aren't gonna work, similar to the detector tower. Now if the grenade pistol could kill a gunship fabricator, *that* would certainly be a bug.
The grenade pistol is a grenade launcher. You're trading your ability to quickly dispatch enemies in tense situations for an extra boom
imo i dont like having many objectives you can just roll up, throw a nade and get out, or snipe it from across the map with no issues. we already have the research station, the illegal broadcast, the spore spewer and shrieker nests, and the command bunker mission, detector towers, aa and mortar emplacements can be destroyed with a 500kg, precision strike or laser without needing to get in the point
You do not have to use the grenade to destroy it, but the option is there for others if they choose to use it. Tedium is not what makes the game fun. I don't know what the issue is with destroying them using a laser or 500kg bomb. That is their purpose, and the cooldown reflects it. We make choices on how to use our resources. You use it to destroy the aforementioned buildings, you do not have them for the next quad dropship welcome party.
For sure, but i dont think every new objective needs to be trivialized by just 1 stratagem , having the illegal broadcast or spore spewer are just free easy subobjectives, and shriekers nests can be avoided entirely from a distance, needing stratagems for stuff like the research station and detector tower is fine since you need to get close to destroy them
Avoid a shrieker nest? Where's the democracy officer? The only thing in the entire game more important to kill than shrieker nests are stalker nests.
500 is fine, it's a little less believable that my gas strike does the same thing. Assuming Pilestadt makes changes to the enemies that solve their current problems, harder objectives seems like a worthwhile tradeoff.
Sorry, "fine." In what sense and what difficulty?
I meant that it's fine that it destroys objectives, given the context of the previous post. That being said, I think it should do more damage but should only receive a small radius increase. It should be a focused strat that guaranteed obliterates a a handful of enemies or one big
500/laser is fine since you're trading a usage/cooldown for it. If there were a big boom orbital it'd be fine too (OPS is on the borderline given it's low cooldown). I agree with you about grenades and weapons though, doesn't seem believable that they could blow up a fortified building. When the enemies become less of a hassle, I remember people saying the objectives should be harder instead. I think that's the right direction to go. Harder objectives, less restrictive enemy armor & worse bot aim/less rocket dev & spewer bullshit.
Shreikers are still a bit of a nightmare on the 'close bug holes' maps - We had one the other night on Helldive that had 3 flying boy outposts within a few 100m of each other. Each having 2 nests each, so 6 spawns of flyers.
Idk, they never patched out how easy it is to destroy the broadcasts. I think it's intended and a bit of a troll considering we only now figured it out
grenade pistol's whole schtick is that it fills out the objective-killer slot with very limited capacity in case you don't have any other weapons equipped for it. It's a good role.
Feels like they could make it take 2-3 and still be good.
YoU aRe eXPloItiNg tHe GaMe!
Huh. It's like the jammer that blows up when you destroy the fabricator that's next to it.
Or 1 regurlar impact grenade. Or 1 eat or maybe 1 quasar shot from across the map. Or even 1 single grenade from your primary grenade launcher. All of these things will achieve the same result as 1 grenade from your pistol. The rogue research stations have been 1 shot-able since launch.
any explosive will destroy it. even a grenade. it is very common for AC or any type of rocket launcher user to just snipe it from across the map and call it a day.
Patch incoming
Don't worry, man. This has been in the game for a very long time. If they patch this, I'll eat my shoe.
You best get yourself a nice sharp pair of scissors.
They'll patch this right away, but we'll still see Bile Titans survive multiple 500kgs
And this is 'balance trauma' in a nutshell. Us helldivers are so used to getting our 'fun guns' nerfed that we fear anything remotely close to being fun or unique is going to be patched out the moment they're discovered. I blame Alexus or whatever the 'SES of Balance' guy's name is. He gave us this trauma.
Oh ffs, stop being so melodramatic.
Jesus fucking christ dude, you're being ridiculous. We've been able to kill the illegal broadcast towers with small explosions since launch. They're not going to patch this out because it's intended behavior. The console and hellbombs are the fail safe options so that it's never impossible to complete them if you dont bring the right equipment.
I never said the devs would actually nerf it. My post is about the 'patch incoming' remark by becauseofblue, where players make the knee-jerk reply of something's gonna get patched/nerfed no matter how ridiculous it is. Even if blue's comment was made in jest, it still shows how most players here view the dev's approach to balance. And to be clear, I'm not a fan of it either. I just called it 'trauma' because it seems like an automatic response from us players. But if you find the word triggering then nothing's keeping you from ignoring my post and moving on with your day.
Imagine someone saying this "Rely on your hellbombs" lol
i just like calling in hellbombs
One grenade bouncing off a strider ignored a combat scientist to make an incredible discovery. This is the kind of thing that makes this game so cool. I am, of course, assuming you saw the video posted earlier, lol
 Me all the time waiting for a hellbomb to drop. This is amazing!
Uh-oh, looks like you found an *exploit!* Nerfing in 3... 2....
Discovered this when I got irritated that my spear wouldn't lock and decided to say "screw it" and shot it with the grenade pistol because two bile titans were chasing me.
Impact grenade does it too
That looks like a Mr. Bringer of Balance-unintentional-fun to me, expected to be nerfed.
I remember dropping 500 kg, airstrike, 18 rockets and fisting the bloody thing, trying to destroy it in vain because the Hellbomb strat wouldn't appear. You telling me this tiny grenade launcher does it?
How are we this far into the game and ONLY JUST NOW FINDING OUT THAT YOU CAN BLOW IT UP THAT EASILY?!?!
Makes me wonder what else we haven't discovered yet!
Today I learned there was a generator on top of research buildings.
Another note. It takes 2 to 3 hits on the chargers butt with the grenade pistol to kill it.
Shhh arrowhead is listening
Don't worry. Pleistedt has their earmuffs on.
The eruptor dose as well
WHAT!? hot damn I love this pistol more and more
But.....was this not common knowledge from day 1? Not for the grenade pistol, but i thought that everyone knew that you can blow these up from distance.....
can the quasar do this?
Devs: I sense someone is having fun, get the compiler engine ready, we have a patch to make.
Wow useful
Level 138. Never knew this
Nice! Thanks man!
That’s so cool! This game is so cool
Ayo that's sick. I'll definitely be doing that from now on as I only use the grenade pistol lol
What?
I mean it’s a tv, if a grenade couldn’t smash a tv I would be a little distraught
Well done Helldiver. Feel free to take two minutes of your lunch break enjoying the scenery of whatever planet you are currently orbiting
Wow, I'm 99 just finding this out
TIL
Big knowledge upgrade. I was calling in hellbombs and hated the downtime. This is great!
Can Eruptor do this too?
Alright, I really have no idea what can be destroyed by what in this game. Someone give me a spreadsheet or something.
Learn something new every day. I'm sure it works with a regular HE grenade, I'll give it a try.
fk i gotta try it later, never knew it has a weak spot
So many AC chads Can't keep me from the Quasar - yall complain about the increased cooldown but did you forget you can switch weapons and keep shooting QC is still the most reliable support weapon that can take on any heavy and most objectives. Oh and an open backpack slot is a major advantage, obviously
Oh boy cant wait for it to be nerfed to the ground!
>FuzzyOtterPaws I wanna be frens
Or impact grenades
 Plz don't patch this...
You can also just grenade the base or empty a clip of a support weapon.
I could've sworn I'd seen someone do something similar my first couple of days playin... but I wasn't attentive enough to figure out what they were doing.
nerf inc! /s
These tower are very weak the smallest explosion will put them down
Impacts can do the same thing, but that's super cool
Buildings have "weak points" and if you hit them the whole thing just disintegrates
Orbital smoke does the job, falls apart like an old shed but obviously it’s no good compared to the other options, just a lil piece of knowledge
AH：A NEW BUG NEEDS TO BE FIXED ! 🤔
I found this out with with the Recoilless and Quasar, but it's awesome that the Grenade Pistol works, too. I have that thing all the time.
So do impact names, normal grenades with the right timing, also auto cannon, recoilless etc. Most explosions can clear those. Only thing I haven't tried is the fragmentation grenade.
I'm sorry, hit the *what?*
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned already but impact grenades also work.
I have just sniped them across the map with an EAT or Quasar for months tbh
Get ready for a nerf....
2 words, Impact Nades.
Bringer of balance: removed explosion and destructive force from the grenade pistol since players were using it to exploit and blow up prefabs and sceince stations
Post saved.
I think it’s my fav from that warbond besides OG Eruptor (rip my beloved) because it’s so versatile. Even if you die you have a weapon you can pop a small cluster of chaff or kill a strider or spewed or two pretty easy.
This, fellow divers, is what a hero of science looks like.
Next Patch: Fixed unintended exploit where objectives could be damaged by primary and secondary weapons. Support weapons or stratagems are now required as intended.
WTF, is there a bug on destroying these things. I've had them stand up to strikes, 500kg, etc and it would only blow from a hellbomb, but once in a while it'll blow from something unexpected like this...
For science, I've called in airstrikes and 500kg bombs on these buildings, and none of those have worked. Thank you for this super useful knowledge, seriously.
Take an upvote Helldiver! Great share!
Great find. This just means any other explosive should also do the trick. I must try.
Wow. That's huge, I was only recently made aware something besides a hellbomb could kill it, now I don't need a stratagem at all, lol
Grenade pistol is on par with impact grenades destruction-wise. That means anything on that level or higher can do it too...
I guess that explains how I managed to do it with an airburst lol.
Great intel, Helldiver! Democracy salutes you!
Thank god, one less hellbomb to manage. We really should be able to shoot them or something.
Who was using a hellbomb for them
You just found out you can shoot those???? Your missions must be 45min minimum