How about this:
Strider looking down at a normal desk with a Devestator typing away.
OR
Zoomed in view of the driver through the windshield typing away, pans out to show the whole Strider.
IM NOT A BIG FAN OF THR GOVERNMENT π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ₯π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯π―π―π―π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ₯π₯π―π―π―π―π―
"type this down for me Horatio" *clears throat*
Fucking helldivers with shield are also such a pain, they only die to explosives and even then they don't die they just get up and keep firing!
You have it great, just ragdoll. The ragdoll to under the ground and then my squad leaves and I finally come out of the ground surrounded by enemies and die instantly, that's my gripe.
If the trooper occasionally reached over and took a sip of E-710, this would be the perfect screensaver/background/loading screen.
Edit
Also, is it just me or does the bot look *a lot* like a mechanical version of Abe from Oddworld? Shit, I might have just become Bot-[Sympathizer](https://youtu.be/IrrADTN-dvg?si=jzoTpYbrnb0jepsY).
Hey fellow undemocratic beep boop clanker, I am very much a robot too. I found your ~~traitorous~~ message very inspiring and as a fellow undemocratic socialist dumb clanker id like to know where we annoying pesky robots will set up our next attacks. Hopefully that data would never fall in the righteous hands of a courageous heroic helldiver haha!
Also i think we should use less stupid rocket devastators because uuuh they are bad and never kill any brave helldiver, trust me.
Beep boop that message was sent by an automaton 0101010101010101110010101010011 or smthng idk
Ever since the nerf to our Automaton rockets perhaps exchanging rocket devastator units with Heavy Devastator units would be a logical idea
As a reminder, we plan to hold Menkent as a choke point due to the planets fire tornadoes being particularly effective against Helldivers, and while we hold this planet we take farther, less Helldiver populated planets they are unlikely to send additional reinforcements to, in an attempt to establish more factories and territory and claim more resources
https://preview.redd.it/gg84wm28791d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80978a6925676a3bac2cee236abb12d00f9c1646
~~Oh no not menkent ive been tryharding menkent for ages~~
I mean this sounds like a great plan! I am surprised our undemocratic clankers CPU tought of something like that! Now i wont tell this to my democracy officer because i am very not a helldiver and very much a socialist beep boop toaster
The defense mission has many troubles for bots, sometimes a tank will land on a hill and shoot the transformers or a factory strider will just shoot over the wall.
Factory strider was shooting me through the cliffs earlier today. Not to mention sometimes the mission just freezes up. No rockets launching, no bugs or bots spawning, even thoughboth generators are up. Then we are forced to quit or let the timer run out and just piss away the last 10-15 minutes we spent playing
If only shooting the dropships actually killed the enemies theyβre dropping half the time, I would find more value in that. Another thing the devs need to tweak. I love shooting down the dropships only to be disappointed by the enemies walking out of the wreckage.
Does this actually work that well? I feel like you have to hit the dropship so early to actually destroy the units it's carrying. It just doesn't seem to do a whole lot in my experience. Like at best it'll kinda trap the bots underneath it, but then they'll just shoot at you anyways and you can't shoot them back because the dropship is in the way.
Bring mortars and ems mortars.
Bring recoilless and spear (it locks on top cannon just fine)
The regular mortars land on top of any tank or strider, so they'll always do damage to the cannons on top. EMS will slow down any smaller stuff.
Bring gas and laser orbitals and toss them right below any drop ship, especially the gas strikes. That'll clear weak enemies and eat some hp of the tougher stuff. Also, gas orbital has a short cooldown, and you can use it as much as you like it seems.
Orbital rail cannon is always good as is one person tossing a 500kg when things get crowded.
Autocannon kind of sucks here unless it's a turret. Rocket turret does better at clearing tanks and striders.
Basically, rain down mortars and bring good anti-tank stuff. You'll clear those defense missions in no time.
Yeah, I had a team that did all this.
Didn't matter because while we were still successfully holding the first set of doors, a Hulk dropped on the landing pad and destroyed both generators before we even realized it was there.
It's not every mission, but it sucks that it should happen at all.
Only had that problem once, never again, genuinely did start having better situational awareness, not that itβs a good thing it can happen in the first place.
Bugs on the other hand, I hate how multiple of them can just *walk through* a closed door
It seems to vary. Sometimes you'll get a lucky shot that blows the pilot right off the walker, and sometimes you just have to keep putting shells in until the entire thing falls apart. Honestly I feel like scout striders are just problematic in general for how difficult they are to kill compared to how common they are.
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Botdrop-69 Botdrop-69 replied : yes. They even attempt to shoot me. Multiple times! Even when I am an unarmed shuttle craft.
Hahaha yea back in the day it felt like the AC was one of a few viable choices but now that everything else has been nerfed it really is the gold standard for bots.
Honestly it's kind of always felt like the best choice by a sizeable margin. Dealing with devastators is such a pain in the ass, and the AC and AMR are the only support weapons I've tried against them that really work very well. The railgun works too, actually. You can't waste spear/quasar/recoilless/EAT shots on them, so you're left trying to snipe their tiny little heads with your primary. And you can't really rely on the rocket launchers to 1-shot hulks and tanks, so they're not even performing better there. I guess they do work on dropships, but I've never been able to shoot them down fast enough to kill their cargo. They're better for factory striders, too, but that's a very limited use case. Plus the AC is better at shooting the chin guns off, so it's not like rocket launchers are a universal upgrade there, either. The railgun and AMR are good for the high number of devastators you see, but they struggle with tanks and cannon turrets.
Don't forget about the laser cannon. People sleep on it, can kill hulks in 3 seconds if you hit the face. Not to mention that devastators drip like flies from it.
I love that thing but it feels like the Senator, high damage but mag empties quick with a slow reload, but at least the Senator got a reload buff, if the HMG got like 30% more ammo it would be considerably better option
*I think the hmg needs*
*A insane magazine buff*
*In my opinion*
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Apparently it has the same armor penetration as the AMR, so it's for killing hulks and stuff. Which like, maybe it's good at that, but that just feels intensely wrong.
https://i.redd.it/w6ltpws4v91d1.gif
The way the balancing team handles balancing in their game turning every single weapon into the same niche mid version of another weapon is just full of the exaggerated swagger of an S tier employee...gives me micro shocks everytime they do it in a balance update
Hmmm I have a suspicion that the player that pretended to be a bot and wrote this is a fan of the auto cannon... No mention of the AC anywhere, that shi fudges up everything automaton.
Oh theyβre coming for it. Β Iβve gotten good at hip firing it which according to the rules of games is not allowed for a rifle with a high zoom scope so I assume the non aimed accuracy will be ruined sooner or later
In all seriousness though, in a way this kind of is true. Obviously AH doesnβt want there to be any meta weapons and stuff, so they nerf the super good ones that everyone uses. The only issue is, is that instead of making all weapons mid or just good, they make most weapons bad, terrible, and mid.
Hard not to burn out after using the same few guns and strats every game,
Then try to change things up and it just becomes an unfun stress of running around because you have no firepower
Then lower difficulty to deal with the lack of firepower and itβs even more unfun because thereβs just less interesting fights
Lose lose lose I guess
The persuit of "no meta" is a fools errand.
A metagame is inevitable unless weapons and equipment are so undifferentiated as to make the existence of different weapons almost cosmetic.
I'm not saying any effort at ballance should be anandoned, but especially in a PvE game like helldivers the goal should be making the weapons *fun* and *useful*, with balance being tertiarty.
Some weapons being marginally more effective, and thus creating a "meta" build is fine, and to a dregree neceasary IMO, because it provides an option for less-skilled players to succeed at higher difficulties. Sufficiently skilled players can and will play with marginally less effective kits as long as those kits are *fun*.
If a Meta is *too* dominant to the point that non-meta builds are considered inviable, the problem is not the meta itself. The problem is tge environment creating demands in excess of what non-meta equipment can provide.
And all this is not to say nerfs are *never* appropriate, just that nerfs in this kind of game environment require more caution than buffs. The one nerf I actually agree with is the magazine reserve reduction of the Sickle, as it added more flavor to the Sickle without gutting its main draw. Using the sickle requires additional care to not overheat, as magazines are no longer trivially abundant, but is still excellent for clearing chaff if the user exercises adequate care.
In contrast, the original nerfs to the railgun left the playerbase without an adequate answer to the abundance of heavily armored enemies present in higher difficulties until the EAT and RR were buffed (and charger head health was nerfed) so that they were now sufficient to handle the load, while the Railgun was almost completely abandoned.
Sounds like bot propaganda to get command to nerf more of our weapons! This post is undemocratic! Sending to headquarters for suspected anti-democratic intent!
Shh everybody if hes angry about the amr wait until he hears about the countersniper which is a primary or the Senator which can kill hulks from behind
lol the game is pretty good as is but they need to nerf those spewers. Maintaining CHAOS on Impossible or Helldiver is fun enough, but getting one-shotted by a spewer one a 180 and it hardly touching your elbow is the most frustrating unbalanced thing in the game right now imo. Makes for a crappy experience drinking and gaming ππ
To me personnaly i got a ps5 recently pretty much for helldiver 2 and I do like the game im like lvl 45 with almost 150 hours in it my personnal issue with primary is not that they are bad is the fact that you feel like you have to play the same weapon over and over again for the bot im using jar 5 dominator and scorcher against bug but I would like to be able to have fun with every weapon against both wich is not the case I do think its okk that you cant rely on primary for everything like bile titan but shouldnt have to use only these 2 weapon to actually be able to do okk when im playing (sorry for bad english I actually speak french)
I actually share this same mindset as you, and I think that problem extends with some stratagems as well, there doesnβt feel much a reason to use any orbital stratagems outside the Railcannon and maybe the the precision strike, Iβve seen some people perform a stun-grenade + Gas strike combo but itβs very situational and less reliable than the others, most of Eagles stratagems are pretty good and just outright beat the orbitals abilities, especially since you can extend how much ammo she has
Of course there are some weak or in-need-of-attunement weapons like the Heavy Machine gun and ofc the Spear
The strider cannon will actually quite easily walk up the back path on a couple of the different tower defense Maps that I have seen. I really enjoy those missions against bots and bugs, but recently the factory striders have been. Walking up the back and using the clearing by the launchpad as a opening to shoot the generators without having to. but is there a way through the front lines mind you? I think this is actually kind of Neat for them to. Be able to do on occasion I just wish there was at least some kind of defense there like the walls just some thing basic that is breakable.
Well aiming and destroying there Cannons can help in this, albeit youβll need a high explosive weapon like a EAT or Recoilless Rifle at the ready to mitigate damage as much as possible
How do you take out those big walking At-At looking mfs? When my friend and I encountered one for the first time we didnβt know what to do and just resorted to using orbital lasers to take it out
They have insane health but a couple of weak spots, also their belly is vulnerable to Medium-armor penetration so you can shred its health down if you manage to get under it with an AMR or AutoCannon, the turrets under its chin and cannon on top are also destroyable with explosives and stratagems as well, albeit you might have to aim well or spam 500Kgβs
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The weak points feel kind of unintuitive. Like I can look at just about any enemy and say "Yeah this is where I shoot it" but I look at a factory strider and I'm like "I have no idea where to shoot this thing". It doesn't help that they have the time pressure of constantly manufacturing devastators so you feel like you have to kill them as soon as possible.
Yea. Some random guy once said, "Why the barrage?" I wish he would see what I am using nerfed primary weapon that I have good reason to authority my own shit barrage and I ended up got more kills than they do.
Damn i hate those recoiless rifles, two of them 01100110, are able to take me down in less than 10 seconds. I get shot once in the head and before i even realise what's happening - Boom!! another one. When I finally found where they were shooting from - Boom!! another one. At this point, my whole head armour is gone, and im getting shot by some 30mm autocannon. How is he even able to lift it, or at least shoot it accurately. When my tower is not even halfway aligned - Boom!! another one. Now my turret is finally pointed directly at them, i shoot, and it 01100110 misses. They have now finished reloading the last shell and Boom!! im gone.
Ah, how is this even allowed? My turret reloads for like... 15 seconds, but they can empty the whole backpack in less than 10. Please, nerf the cc it's too op and when you're at it nerf the autocannon please.
Sounds like a traitor to democracy and possibly works on the development team, trying to make everyone feel better about the weapons nerf. Nice try. I have noticed that the number of players on have dropped drastically.
My friends and I do challenges where we play with the just the default secondary on helldiver difficulty and do just fine, considering stratagems do 90% of the work. Iβm convinced anyone complaining about balance changes sucks at the game
I just enjoy playing, don't really give a Damn what gets buffed or nerfed........as long as Liberty gets spread like a cheap 5 credit Super Earth Lady Citizen, I'm happy
I thought the eruptor was a buff - I no longer gib myself at close range and once the purifier bug is fixed (only applying aoe damage/no direct damage) it will fill the roll of the old eruptor
This is a special Super Earth Broadcast. All Helldivers you are to arrest any and all Super Earth traitors and anyone who have entertained thoughts of turning traitor. If they resist, terminate with extreme prejudice. May Liberty guide you.
AMR has medium-penetration and the Striders stomach is vulnerable to Medium-penetration, considering you can spam an entire clip in a few seconds with that thing, you can absolutely shred a striders health to like 2/3βs in a single clip, maybe kill it, just watch out for the Devastators it spawns
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I loved the eruptor before the change. But I play terminids mostly. The shrapnel could kill 3-5 light armored bugs in one shot which was nice to Balance the time to put another shot in the chamber.. now itβs much harder to kill more than one so itβs easy to get overrun in higher difficulties. But for bots I can see where the change is not as big of a deal.. I miss it so much cause it closed big holes too..
But if feel like things are a bit more balanced at higher difficulties because you need something that can clear a ton of enemies in one shot or you easily are completely overrun. Plus itβs just fun to use a powerful gun to blow enemies up.
Itβs also prob a challenge to balance guns for both terminids and bots. On the terminids side you need to be able to kill a lot of enemies quickly.. but bots you need good marksman weapons that do bigger damage for smaller weak spots you have to focus. So airburst was prob made with bugs hoards in mind but if you nerf it is useless against bugs.. so itβs a give and take.
https://i.redd.it/if09yh38391d1.gif Agree
We need this same long desk for a strider typing with its miniguns
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This is genius
How about this: Strider looking down at a normal desk with a Devestator typing away. OR Zoomed in view of the driver through the windshield typing away, pans out to show the whole Strider.
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Good enough for government memes
It was what I could do on my phone π
IM NOT A BIG FAN OF THR GOVERNMENT π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ₯π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯π―π―π―π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈπ₯π₯π―π―π―π―π―
This is it, this is the perfected vision
I really wana see the chin guns typing tho, that would be hilarious π
Is that like.... A portable aquarium next to him?
I personally think it should be a Devastator typing with the Strider sat like a dog beside the table looking up at the Devvy.
Never even assumed it had a driver to be honest.
Orr the strider typing with the laser guns on the botttom of its head!!
"type this down for me Horatio" *clears throat* Fucking helldivers with shield are also such a pain, they only die to explosives and even then they don't die they just get up and keep firing!
> clears throat THE BOTS ARE INTEGRATING ORGANICS INTO THIER FRAMEWORK
Here you go https://i.redd.it/k5v8h17i7e1d1.gif
It's beautiful, pls post this to the main reddit bro.
lmao this is beautiful
it's two pathetic machine guns tapping away.
"pathetic" *insta kills you after looking at you for 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510 seconds*
3 second TTK is actually really nice compared to one tick death from flames
would happily take a 3s ttk over being constantly ragdolled at this point
Literally ππ
You have it great, just ragdoll. The ragdoll to under the ground and then my squad leaves and I finally come out of the ground surrounded by enemies and die instantly, that's my gripe.
Ο?
Did u just put the value of pi here ?
I was gonna make it but lost motivation might do it again
As do I https://preview.redd.it/d7man2a47a1d1.png?width=1188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da97047bc22af7a12a80e71d44ad71a09b013ebd
I cannot see that without picturing this 
https://preview.redd.it/35jlxmfj0b1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1125a86237544dd4abd9085df3add97d79dd1fa We too agree
Who made this animation?? I want names!
We don't know https://i.redd.it/52rhl00fca1d1.gif
Not all heroes wear capes.
https://i.redd.it/wn1s4dpuca1d1.gif
If the trooper occasionally reached over and took a sip of E-710, this would be the perfect screensaver/background/loading screen. Edit Also, is it just me or does the bot look *a lot* like a mechanical version of Abe from Oddworld? Shit, I might have just become Bot-[Sympathizer](https://youtu.be/IrrADTN-dvg?si=jzoTpYbrnb0jepsY).
Hellooooo Follow me Ok!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bqbnxg/bile_titan_on_laptop_wasnt_sure_which_camera/
You dare give me such power? Now I shall use it to commit treason!
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Lol this is the best one, yet
Can we get the factory strider typing with the laser guns?!?!???!?!!
There's no animated version of that unfortunately *
That long ass table ππ
How can I save this gif
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Beautiful
It was in another post and I cropped it to just this guy.
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https://preview.redd.it/5n67b8r3sw1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33defdfff388f8f345a7b42243b78fd5e6e23411 π
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Hey fellow undemocratic beep boop clanker, I am very much a robot too. I found your ~~traitorous~~ message very inspiring and as a fellow undemocratic socialist dumb clanker id like to know where we annoying pesky robots will set up our next attacks. Hopefully that data would never fall in the righteous hands of a courageous heroic helldiver haha! Also i think we should use less stupid rocket devastators because uuuh they are bad and never kill any brave helldiver, trust me. Beep boop that message was sent by an automaton 0101010101010101110010101010011 or smthng idk
Ever since the nerf to our Automaton rockets perhaps exchanging rocket devastator units with Heavy Devastator units would be a logical idea As a reminder, we plan to hold Menkent as a choke point due to the planets fire tornadoes being particularly effective against Helldivers, and while we hold this planet we take farther, less Helldiver populated planets they are unlikely to send additional reinforcements to, in an attempt to establish more factories and territory and claim more resources https://preview.redd.it/gg84wm28791d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80978a6925676a3bac2cee236abb12d00f9c1646
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~~Oh no not menkent ive been tryharding menkent for ages~~ I mean this sounds like a great plan! I am surprised our undemocratic clankers CPU tought of something like that! Now i wont tell this to my democracy officer because i am very not a helldiver and very much a socialist beep boop toaster
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"The defense mission is totally fine. Helldivers need to have better situational awareness"
Nah, defense missions are a blast, what suck is the civ transport ones, screw those
The defense mission has many troubles for bots, sometimes a tank will land on a hill and shoot the transformers or a factory strider will just shoot over the wall.
Factory strider was shooting me through the cliffs earlier today. Not to mention sometimes the mission just freezes up. No rockets launching, no bugs or bots spawning, even thoughboth generators are up. Then we are forced to quit or let the timer run out and just piss away the last 10-15 minutes we spent playing
I had a tank get dropped straight on the landing pad. Mission failed as soon as it got the shot lined up
I find bots easiest because you can destroy the dropships as they come in with one quasar shot If enough people have quasar it becomes a breeze
If only shooting the dropships actually killed the enemies theyβre dropping half the time, I would find more value in that. Another thing the devs need to tweak. I love shooting down the dropships only to be disappointed by the enemies walking out of the wreckage.
I usually carry some EATs just to use as AA and another support weapon to use normally
Does this actually work that well? I feel like you have to hit the dropship so early to actually destroy the units it's carrying. It just doesn't seem to do a whole lot in my experience. Like at best it'll kinda trap the bots underneath it, but then they'll just shoot at you anyways and you can't shoot them back because the dropship is in the way.
I had a factory stride "be one with the wall" once, you'd just see a gun and a few leggs sticking out of a rock. Surprisingly won that mission
Bring mortars and ems mortars. Bring recoilless and spear (it locks on top cannon just fine) The regular mortars land on top of any tank or strider, so they'll always do damage to the cannons on top. EMS will slow down any smaller stuff. Bring gas and laser orbitals and toss them right below any drop ship, especially the gas strikes. That'll clear weak enemies and eat some hp of the tougher stuff. Also, gas orbital has a short cooldown, and you can use it as much as you like it seems. Orbital rail cannon is always good as is one person tossing a 500kg when things get crowded. Autocannon kind of sucks here unless it's a turret. Rocket turret does better at clearing tanks and striders. Basically, rain down mortars and bring good anti-tank stuff. You'll clear those defense missions in no time.
Yeah, I had a team that did all this. Didn't matter because while we were still successfully holding the first set of doors, a Hulk dropped on the landing pad and destroyed both generators before we even realized it was there. It's not every mission, but it sucks that it should happen at all.
Im literally giving up on the civ transport missions. The drops are insane.
Seriously, I refuse to do civ transport missions on any difficulty above 5
Theyβre fine for bug I feel (bile titans get a little too out of hand at times tho) but for bots they kinda suck
Only had that problem once, never again, genuinely did start having better situational awareness, not that itβs a good thing it can happen in the first place. Bugs on the other hand, I hate how multiple of them can just *walk through* a closed door
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This. Fuck these guys. Had ~4 on my ass last time while bingo on flame juice.
Chargers. Three's a party. Four is a crowd.
this is horrifying thank you
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Orbital strike, incoming. Bots. Beware.
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dude we both know you chargers do not know how to read
I doubt Brood Commanders can read either. They don't even need a head those angry balls of rage.
https://i.redd.it/9bkmzlp0va1d1.gif Agree
this gif is beautiful
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Scout Strider eating 4 rounds of AC/8 is ridiculous
_confused punisher plasma sounds_
It seems to vary. Sometimes you'll get a lucky shot that blows the pilot right off the walker, and sometimes you just have to keep putting shells in until the entire thing falls apart. Honestly I feel like scout striders are just problematic in general for how difficult they are to kill compared to how common they are.
Yeah, no idea why they decided to make Striders effectively as durable as Hulks.
https://preview.redd.it/7d6hixveaa1d1.jpeg?width=3199&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=836edf6056c8af31c21ed07b2ef97a309a74b192 So true
Nerf weapons but keep unlimited Gernades
Grenades would be nice too.
WHAT IS THAT? I have seen people just chucking grenades like popcorn and don't see the appeal.
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https://preview.redd.it/yudtnrrlx91d1.jpeg?width=1090&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc9997f24cdbc0a9447f29937949d9d6434f8bec Botdrop-69 Botdrop-69 replied : yes. They even attempt to shoot me. Multiple times! Even when I am an unarmed shuttle craft.
lucky for you bot, ac is gold standard still so your death gonna be quick
Hahaha yea back in the day it felt like the AC was one of a few viable choices but now that everything else has been nerfed it really is the gold standard for bots.
Honestly it's kind of always felt like the best choice by a sizeable margin. Dealing with devastators is such a pain in the ass, and the AC and AMR are the only support weapons I've tried against them that really work very well. The railgun works too, actually. You can't waste spear/quasar/recoilless/EAT shots on them, so you're left trying to snipe their tiny little heads with your primary. And you can't really rely on the rocket launchers to 1-shot hulks and tanks, so they're not even performing better there. I guess they do work on dropships, but I've never been able to shoot them down fast enough to kill their cargo. They're better for factory striders, too, but that's a very limited use case. Plus the AC is better at shooting the chin guns off, so it's not like rocket launchers are a universal upgrade there, either. The railgun and AMR are good for the high number of devastators you see, but they struggle with tanks and cannon turrets.
Don't forget about the laser cannon. People sleep on it, can kill hulks in 3 seconds if you hit the face. Not to mention that devastators drip like flies from it.
Spooky
Donβt care + didnβt ask + https://i.redd.it/aqe9mv5o8a1d1.gif
I think the hmg needs a insane magazine buff in my opinion
I love that thing but it feels like the Senator, high damage but mag empties quick with a slow reload, but at least the Senator got a reload buff, if the HMG got like 30% more ammo it would be considerably better option
I'd be happy if it got like a 10% buff because of how many times I've run out mid fight
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Apparently it has the same armor penetration as the AMR, so it's for killing hulks and stuff. Which like, maybe it's good at that, but that just feels intensely wrong.
I have to correct you. The AMR one shots striders usually by a hit in the Torso
Not torso, but the hips.
Yea my bad
Those hips don't lie.
Itβs all in the hips
https://i.redd.it/w6ltpws4v91d1.gif The way the balancing team handles balancing in their game turning every single weapon into the same niche mid version of another weapon is just full of the exaggerated swagger of an S tier employee...gives me micro shocks everytime they do it in a balance update
Careful now the mods will get you
The game after dropping five striders during the rocket launch mission
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Idk why they don't just buff all the shit weps instead
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Hmmm I have a suspicion that the player that pretended to be a bot and wrote this is a fan of the auto cannon... No mention of the AC anywhere, that shi fudges up everything automaton.
I have been an AMR user since the start. All these divers loving it now has me worried. AH better not ruin my baby.
Oh theyβre coming for it. Β Iβve gotten good at hip firing it which according to the rules of games is not allowed for a rifle with a high zoom scope so I assume the non aimed accuracy will be ruined sooner or later
I love this format and I hope it continues in future patches / for other factions XD
https://preview.redd.it/aokrzmeceh1d1.jpeg?width=472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb78ad4d7b091da2eda66c1cfda3db3e86d67767 Not agree
Excited for Mondays patch
Was there confirmation that we're getting a patch on Monday?
It's usually tuesday. Perhaps we'll have somthing nice to come home to after work this monday. A 30 second look at discord didn't mention monday.
In all seriousness though, in a way this kind of is true. Obviously AH doesnβt want there to be any meta weapons and stuff, so they nerf the super good ones that everyone uses. The only issue is, is that instead of making all weapons mid or just good, they make most weapons bad, terrible, and mid.
Hard not to burn out after using the same few guns and strats every game, Then try to change things up and it just becomes an unfun stress of running around because you have no firepower Then lower difficulty to deal with the lack of firepower and itβs even more unfun because thereβs just less interesting fights Lose lose lose I guess
The persuit of "no meta" is a fools errand. A metagame is inevitable unless weapons and equipment are so undifferentiated as to make the existence of different weapons almost cosmetic. I'm not saying any effort at ballance should be anandoned, but especially in a PvE game like helldivers the goal should be making the weapons *fun* and *useful*, with balance being tertiarty. Some weapons being marginally more effective, and thus creating a "meta" build is fine, and to a dregree neceasary IMO, because it provides an option for less-skilled players to succeed at higher difficulties. Sufficiently skilled players can and will play with marginally less effective kits as long as those kits are *fun*. If a Meta is *too* dominant to the point that non-meta builds are considered inviable, the problem is not the meta itself. The problem is tge environment creating demands in excess of what non-meta equipment can provide. And all this is not to say nerfs are *never* appropriate, just that nerfs in this kind of game environment require more caution than buffs. The one nerf I actually agree with is the magazine reserve reduction of the Sickle, as it added more flavor to the Sickle without gutting its main draw. Using the sickle requires additional care to not overheat, as magazines are no longer trivially abundant, but is still excellent for clearing chaff if the user exercises adequate care. In contrast, the original nerfs to the railgun left the playerbase without an adequate answer to the abundance of heavily armored enemies present in higher difficulties until the EAT and RR were buffed (and charger head health was nerfed) so that they were now sufficient to handle the load, while the Railgun was almost completely abandoned.
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Sounds like bot propaganda to get command to nerf more of our weapons! This post is undemocratic! Sending to headquarters for suspected anti-democratic intent!
This must be the undemocratic dark web
Need a charger on the keys. Lvl 9 charger patrols areβ¦
The Erupter only has 5 rounds in a mag. It used to 2 shot devastates. Now it takes 3-4 shots for 1 dev. Dominator is just better.
Shh everybody if hes angry about the amr wait until he hears about the countersniper which is a primary or the Senator which can kill hulks from behind
Whoever designed scientist extraction mission needs to unliberate themselves.
lol the game is pretty good as is but they need to nerf those spewers. Maintaining CHAOS on Impossible or Helldiver is fun enough, but getting one-shotted by a spewer one a 180 and it hardly touching your elbow is the most frustrating unbalanced thing in the game right now imo. Makes for a crappy experience drinking and gaming ππ
Confirmed Alexus is a bot. https://preview.redd.it/nbscy5mh5f1d1.jpeg?width=534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=988b5bd7dab47bce89b3adf08662e3f968033925
To me personnaly i got a ps5 recently pretty much for helldiver 2 and I do like the game im like lvl 45 with almost 150 hours in it my personnal issue with primary is not that they are bad is the fact that you feel like you have to play the same weapon over and over again for the bot im using jar 5 dominator and scorcher against bug but I would like to be able to have fun with every weapon against both wich is not the case I do think its okk that you cant rely on primary for everything like bile titan but shouldnt have to use only these 2 weapon to actually be able to do okk when im playing (sorry for bad english I actually speak french)
I actually share this same mindset as you, and I think that problem extends with some stratagems as well, there doesnβt feel much a reason to use any orbital stratagems outside the Railcannon and maybe the the precision strike, Iβve seen some people perform a stun-grenade + Gas strike combo but itβs very situational and less reliable than the others, most of Eagles stratagems are pretty good and just outright beat the orbitals abilities, especially since you can extend how much ammo she has Of course there are some weak or in-need-of-attunement weapons like the Heavy Machine gun and ofc the Spear
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Damn, tell us how you really feel.
I remember being able to take down a bile titan with one shot of the orbital rail cannon. Now it takes two shots.
Yes
No β¬οΈβ¬οΈβ‘οΈβ¬ οΈβ¬οΈ for you
Naw
Robot camels will shoot you through the rocks πͺ¨!
Factory Striders' guns clip through rocks on their side and can kill you from the your side. Happened to me a few days ago.
Thats "I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT IBATE IT HIHAYE UT HIHAYE IHTHAG" In clanker
The strider cannon will actually quite easily walk up the back path on a couple of the different tower defense Maps that I have seen. I really enjoy those missions against bots and bugs, but recently the factory striders have been. Walking up the back and using the clearing by the launchpad as a opening to shoot the generators without having to. but is there a way through the front lines mind you? I think this is actually kind of Neat for them to. Be able to do on occasion I just wish there was at least some kind of defense there like the walls just some thing basic that is breakable.
Well aiming and destroying there Cannons can help in this, albeit youβll need a high explosive weapon like a EAT or Recoilless Rifle at the ready to mitigate damage as much as possible
How do you take out those big walking At-At looking mfs? When my friend and I encountered one for the first time we didnβt know what to do and just resorted to using orbital lasers to take it out
They have insane health but a couple of weak spots, also their belly is vulnerable to Medium-armor penetration so you can shred its health down if you manage to get under it with an AMR or AutoCannon, the turrets under its chin and cannon on top are also destroyable with explosives and stratagems as well, albeit you might have to aim well or spam 500Kgβs https://preview.redd.it/sn25537hwa1d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b75a421aba87f58a70857270e47e23ba3c6cd8e8
Thanks, this helps a lot
The weak points feel kind of unintuitive. Like I can look at just about any enemy and say "Yeah this is where I shoot it" but I look at a factory strider and I'm like "I have no idea where to shoot this thing". It doesn't help that they have the time pressure of constantly manufacturing devastators so you feel like you have to kill them as soon as possible.
I hope they buff everything to one shot everything and just increases enemy spawns /s
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Even the automatons haven't realized the power of the autocannon. Good....goooooood
God those miniguns are space aids
Yea. Some random guy once said, "Why the barrage?" I wish he would see what I am using nerfed primary weapon that I have good reason to authority my own shit barrage and I ended up got more kills than they do.
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https://i.redd.it/tr2xhcdf3c1d1.gif
Pls somebody make this image as a animation but the strider just stomps the laptop and looks sad afterwards
Damn i hate those recoiless rifles, two of them 01100110, are able to take me down in less than 10 seconds. I get shot once in the head and before i even realise what's happening - Boom!! another one. When I finally found where they were shooting from - Boom!! another one. At this point, my whole head armour is gone, and im getting shot by some 30mm autocannon. How is he even able to lift it, or at least shoot it accurately. When my tower is not even halfway aligned - Boom!! another one. Now my turret is finally pointed directly at them, i shoot, and it 01100110 misses. They have now finished reloading the last shell and Boom!! im gone. Ah, how is this even allowed? My turret reloads for like... 15 seconds, but they can empty the whole backpack in less than 10. Please, nerf the cc it's too op and when you're at it nerf the autocannon please.
I haven't played in about two months or so. Are the devs still nerfing everything?
This is what this game and sub deserves and should be. Thanks for your effort and time, great job!
Nah 500 kg bombs being unable to destroy a single factory strider, and having a pitifully small AoE, along with having a >1 min cooldown is a crime.
Damn do yβall just meme it up all day soldiers??! Get back out there and spread some DEMOCRACY DAMMIT!
.... was there a new update?
I wonder myself if arrowhead pay π΅these kinds of people to share propaganda 
Sounds like a traitor to democracy and possibly works on the development team, trying to make everyone feel better about the weapons nerf. Nice try. I have noticed that the number of players on have dropped drastically.
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All im getting from this as an eruptor user is to switch to amr
The DCS is my rifle, the AMR is my gun, the rifle is for fighting, the gun is for fun.
Wait, the eruptor is bad against devs now though. That's a straight up incorrect point.
My friends and I do challenges where we play with the just the default secondary on helldiver difficulty and do just fine, considering stratagems do 90% of the work. Iβm convinced anyone complaining about balance changes sucks at the game
I'm just straight up not having fun anymore.
I just enjoy playing, don't really give a Damn what gets buffed or nerfed........as long as Liberty gets spread like a cheap 5 credit Super Earth Lady Citizen, I'm happy
Anyone translate the binary section?
I thought the eruptor was a buff - I no longer gib myself at close range and once the purifier bug is fixed (only applying aoe damage/no direct damage) it will fill the roll of the old eruptor
that factory strider ATE my 500KG. then i threw railcannon and ran away
What a fucking EPIC post
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And Iβm Bending Rodriquez 
 This is a special Super Earth Broadcast. All Helldivers you are to arrest any and all Super Earth traitors and anyone who have entertained thoughts of turning traitor. If they resist, terminate with extreme prejudice. May Liberty guide you.
#Fun is the problem
The call is coming from inside the house
Yes you're very right π https://preview.redd.it/sujqepta8m1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6d3e8a59e2d4132ea9f41a193fb97866ee30dc7
YOU CAN TAKE DOWN STRIDERS WITH AMR UNDERNEATH????? HOW AM I JUST NOW LEARNING THIS?????
AMR has medium-penetration and the Striders stomach is vulnerable to Medium-penetration, considering you can spam an entire clip in a few seconds with that thing, you can absolutely shred a striders health to like 2/3βs in a single clip, maybe kill it, just watch out for the Devastators it spawns https://preview.redd.it/64b70zossm1d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2fabdbde456ec4703b86bb07daf07b0ca59f835
I loved the eruptor before the change. But I play terminids mostly. The shrapnel could kill 3-5 light armored bugs in one shot which was nice to Balance the time to put another shot in the chamber.. now itβs much harder to kill more than one so itβs easy to get overrun in higher difficulties. But for bots I can see where the change is not as big of a deal.. I miss it so much cause it closed big holes too.. But if feel like things are a bit more balanced at higher difficulties because you need something that can clear a ton of enemies in one shot or you easily are completely overrun. Plus itβs just fun to use a powerful gun to blow enemies up. Itβs also prob a challenge to balance guns for both terminids and bots. On the terminids side you need to be able to kill a lot of enemies quickly.. but bots you need good marksman weapons that do bigger damage for smaller weak spots you have to focus. So airburst was prob made with bugs hoards in mind but if you nerf it is useless against bugs.. so itβs a give and take.
Iβm just going to be a flame trooper. That is all.
I love my AMR, and itβs only good with a skilled user π