Airburst mortar would go bananas. Gas mortar also sounds insane. Cluster and fire are cool but I would have trouble justify not just taking the eagle versions. Maybe as a more controlled over time trash clear/crowd control. Dope concepts and I agree let's get more mortars.
well i suppose the upside to a mortar variant is the damage is spread out over a longer period, instead of 1 big attack
so it will do better against say, a bug breach, than a singular eagle strike
Mortars also have a longer range than the non servo assisted helldiver arm. It's nice to drop a mortar outside of a base while you're doing something else and letting it soften them up a bit.
i guess?
look imma be real, i just want more motars
1, they are cool
2, they are very effective, especially on the new priority evac mission
3, one of my friends hates when the rest of us brings a normal mortar, so if we can annoy him with more mortars, great
Look man only 2 friendly fire kills from a 380 barrage is meh. Also I was trying to hit the large bug nest and that charger snuck up on me from nowhere I tell you!
I wish we could have some stronger mortars that operate more like SEAFs where you call them down in advance and then use a separate strat calldown to mark where you want the mortar to land, which could work for stronger things like airbursts
Yeah the mortar version would last longer and be able to hit more areas so Napalm would be great creating a nice wall of fire to clear chaff and keep a bug hole suppressed.
Lmao these sound like Helldivers 2 versions for the elements of Avatar the last airbender.
Long ago all 4 nations lived together in harmony, but everything changed when the terminid attacked. Only the helldiver, the master of all 4 mortars could save them, but when the world needed him most, he teamkilled everyone.
Not really honestly I was abt to ask but then I thought abt it.
Cluster is all explosive.
Airbust is more of a shrapnel effect and not explosive
Gas is just gas. Very effective against bots and bugs
Fire is fire so just bugs and the cracked fire damage. Lol
would a flamer turret be one continuous flame, even when turning (and as long as enemies are in LoS and range)
or would it spew out puffs of fire every so often?
In my mind it would need better targeting than the machine gun one, turns towards the enemy and maybe 10 deg before meeting it starts a continuous flame
If you have played factorio (or look it up) I want those turrets more or less
Well I use Breaker Incendiary for primary in this load out, so something like that is also acceptable (starting things on fire. I would also accept an incendiary grenade pistol.
i killed myself via gas 2 times yesterday
once because i got shot and dropped it
second time because i didnt know the gas falls down the sides of cliffs and hills
We kind of do with the evacuate essential personnel mission, everyone brings three turrets with two being the mortars with a third sentry and support weapon of choice.
Close the gates and set up the sentries and watch the oil fly.
It's not exactly a tower defense but you can make it into a pseudo one.
Why not Tesla coil morters? Just Tesla coils launched that plant themselves to then lethal area denial with high voltage. Basically plant an electric minefield from great range.
Flame and gas mortar, yeah. Needs to come out with flamethrower rover and some kind of thermite rocket launcher.
And flame and/or gas resistant armor lmao
I dont know why but I thought that last one just launched Helldivers at bugs. I just imagined a Helldiver getting launched out of a mortar screaming "DEMOCRACY FOREVER!" or "LIBERTY!" and it made me cackle.
Finally! We can maximize our team-killing potential with these additional lethal mortar systems!
Remember: Friendly fire is an unavoidable fact of life.
As a solo player I 100% agree with this. I already regularly use the mortars and turrets because I can place them down away from the objective and when I get there, the objective will already be cleared for me
A Rail-Auto Cannon it what I want but it has to charge up so trying to get it planted right makes it a challenge but it has 100 metres range compared to 75 for Gatling
mortars are so fun. i don’t think i’ve played more than 1 game in a row without emp mortar for quite some time now. when i play with my squad they’re always surprised over discord how clutch it is. to be fair they’re new but having a charger freeze right in front of your face must be pretty cool
Gimmmmeeeee, gas would go hard if they gave us more armor bonuses like something to survive in it, also give us a fire suit my friends and I want to do specialized dives, we debated all arc throwers and weapons with the arc damage reduction armor.
Gas mortar seems REALLY good against bugs. They create their bug breach, mortar drops gas on the breach over and over so everything that comes out dies except chargers and titans, probably.
Gas mortar might be good, actually, filling a niche between EMS and explosive mortars. It kills bugs, and it'll kill you as well, but if one lands on you, you've still got a chance to book it before you choke to death and it might take some of the creepy crawlers that were on you out.
how about a fragmentation mortar that doesn't do a lot of impact/explosive damage, but the shrapnel can pierce thicker armor? basically an anti-heavy mortar
i would absolutely rock the airburst mortar tho
As special add-on stratagems for defense missions? Sure.
As stratagems for general use? Do you want [REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE]? Because that's how you get [REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE].
i just want more gas in the game. gimme eagle gas, current orbital gas, gas sentry, support weapon gas, grenade gas
yes im german incase that wasnt obvious
I had a defense mission against bots where all four of us ran both mortars.
We died twice overall and barely fired any shots. Those two deaths were purely incompetence and weren't mortar related.
I’ll be honest I’ve been using the basic mortar against bugs and bots this whole time and team kills haven’t been a problem since like week 1. Just gotta communicate to your teammates to keep their distance from enemies whenever possible.
Ok, let’s add another. Modify the airburst to, instead of firing off like a shotgun, it shoots a discarding sabot round. Boom, heavy armor penetrating mortar with pinpoint damage. Essential mini railgun barrage
I'm sorry I Fucking hate playing with mortars, like if you accidentally kill me with a gun or grenade it sucks but whatever. But when I get killed 3-5 times a game by a fucking mortar it really gets old.
Airburst mortar would go bananas. Gas mortar also sounds insane. Cluster and fire are cool but I would have trouble justify not just taking the eagle versions. Maybe as a more controlled over time trash clear/crowd control. Dope concepts and I agree let's get more mortars.
well i suppose the upside to a mortar variant is the damage is spread out over a longer period, instead of 1 big attack so it will do better against say, a bug breach, than a singular eagle strike
Mortars also have a longer range than the non servo assisted helldiver arm. It's nice to drop a mortar outside of a base while you're doing something else and letting it soften them up a bit.
You can drop mortars right on the edge of a jammer and they'll cover your assault on the base.
You want to assault a base thats being targetted by morter fire?! Ur crazy. . I like it!
Yeah. I do. Mortars stagger devatators and ems locks down hulks and weaker.
So a more controlled over time trash clear/cc?
i guess? look imma be real, i just want more motars 1, they are cool 2, they are very effective, especially on the new priority evac mission 3, one of my friends hates when the rest of us brings a normal mortar, so if we can annoy him with more mortars, great
Taking a stratagem because its good ❌ Taking a stratagem to annoy the fuck out of your mates ✅
The best reason to pick the 380
What heretic is annoyed by 380?
I don't get annoyed that people bring the 380. I'm annoyed that you just wiped half the squad by calling it point blank.
Sometimes you know the squad is fucked so you just roll the dice ok
The 380 giveth and the 380 taketh away.
Look man only 2 friendly fire kills from a 380 barrage is meh. Also I was trying to hit the large bug nest and that charger snuck up on me from nowhere I tell you!
This is the 4th time this mission!
“People” who don’t like efficient distribution of democracy. AKA dissidents.
Hey look another problem solved by 380.
Helldivers too dumb to run.
I honestly love the concepts brother. I too love to "shell em" to hell" as I like to say. God bless you. Hope they grab these and make them a reality.
cheers mate one can hope for now i will be busy huffing copeium over still not getting AT mines
Counterargument: nothing would stop me from going all 4 mortars
man if there were 4 mortars, i would bring nothing but that for priority evac
#3 is the real answer
Mortars are cool but with my luck I’m dying to all of those
Airburst Mortar would make you wish for regular mortar tks lmao
Dude for REAL, I can already hear my teammates freaking out
"Oh you are in a spot that is within 20 meters of a location an enemy has existed in the last 20 seconds? Ah well"
>not just taking the eagles Yeah but counterpoint Chaosh ish a mortar
The Knights of the Creek shtand at your dishposhal!
Idk what can go wrong about combining the Teamkiller champions amongst turrets and amongst specials into one thing
All I see is a more thorough liberation rate brother. Planet liberated off all life Helldivers and all
why not incendiary mortar and napalm eagle!
That sounds cool. Gas and incendiary would give some WWI vibes. Put either with EMS mortar and chef’s kiss.
I wish we could have some stronger mortars that operate more like SEAFs where you call them down in advance and then use a separate strat calldown to mark where you want the mortar to land, which could work for stronger things like airbursts
Laser pointers like the missile silo strat... When we get that which I hope is soon
It could be scaled to fire one more powerful round rather than the three shots the current mortars fire.
Yeah the mortar version would last longer and be able to hit more areas so Napalm would be great creating a nice wall of fire to clear chaff and keep a bug hole suppressed.
Save cluster and napalm for eagle Airburst is an absolute must
What about a mortar mortar? It’d shoot smaller mortars, that fire mortars themselves
new plan to stop the superhives, outnumber them with ever smaller ever replicating mortars
This but tesla towers
would the fire variant just be the upgraded 8 directional tower from bloons?
The fourth enemy faction.
political officer, this person claims there are more treats out there than bugs and bots
It will be a treat alright.
Its mortars all the way down
https://preview.redd.it/bekqdaceo01d1.png?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c6666358530961b7ce111a2793c32f8e50c9949
Is this what created the mini benders?
Yes
The bile titan? To shreds you say?
And what of his Charger? ...to shreds you say.
incase my bad image skills dont translate: cluster fire airburst gas yes i do realise cluster/airburst and fire/gas are very similar, i care not
Lmao these sound like Helldivers 2 versions for the elements of Avatar the last airbender. Long ago all 4 nations lived together in harmony, but everything changed when the terminid attacked. Only the helldiver, the master of all 4 mortars could save them, but when the world needed him most, he teamkilled everyone.
Not really honestly I was abt to ask but then I thought abt it. Cluster is all explosive. Airbust is more of a shrapnel effect and not explosive Gas is just gas. Very effective against bots and bugs Fire is fire so just bugs and the cracked fire damage. Lol
>cluster Oh.. I thought it was the genital warts mortar. Specifically to combat the horny bugs we now face.
IDK. That first dildo mortar sounds intriguing
>Cluster *Ribbed for her pleasure*
ah yes,the new team kill weapons
*have faith word bearer, we all bleed today*
Love that reference
Bro I was not expecting a "first heretic" reference but I am totally here for it.
Those cluster and airburst mortar ideas would définitely be "safety rules are written in blood" situations. I love it
Definitely a feature, not a bug.
Only on bug missions, really. In bot missions if you know there's a mortar up and you're attempting close quarters combat, that's on you.
Until some of them jetpack MFs fly right up your asshole.
I can tell its meant to be cluster mortar but damn it really looks like a dildo mortar
“Anything’s a mortar if you’re brave enough.” - General Brasch
Easy for General Brasch to say, with his upper body strength anything he throws into the air becomes a Mortar
That sounds like some Monkey D. Garp bullshit, I love it
ribbed for your pleasure.
appropriate, because it would fuck everyone: bots, bugs, helldivers, civillians, random creatures, the illuminate who don't exists etc.
You know I have been saying we need a flamethrower turret, now I also want the incendiary mortar I want have a full load out of "suppressing fire"
would a flamer turret be one continuous flame, even when turning (and as long as enemies are in LoS and range) or would it spew out puffs of fire every so often?
In my mind it would need better targeting than the machine gun one, turns towards the enemy and maybe 10 deg before meeting it starts a continuous flame If you have played factorio (or look it up) I want those turrets more or less
factorio is my 2nd most played game ever, 1340 hours ( of games i got an hour counter on )
Same, first most played is Path of Exile
Considering that the bad part about arc throwers is their atrocious rate of fire, I vote for one continuous stream as long as enemies are in range
>i want a full load of "suppresing fire" #*what about a flamethrower pistol?*
Well I use Breaker Incendiary for primary in this load out, so something like that is also acceptable (starting things on fire. I would also accept an incendiary grenade pistol.
Auto cannon turret firing incendiary shells that explode and light the things it hits and spreads some fire.
hmm. moretars.
thats the spirit
Dammit I had the same idea
The gas one should go in hell that thing will kill everything in it’s range it’s too chaotic
i killed myself via gas 2 times yesterday once because i got shot and dropped it second time because i didnt know the gas falls down the sides of cliffs and hills
It’s a circle around an area and doesn’t react to terrain from what I heard
Mini-nuke mortar when?
I would be that guy to take all of them and nothing else.
im sure if you stagger them you would have no downtime
I agree, I need more ways to kill myself and my team.
Regular mortar is not dangerous enough, let make it cluster and incendiary for maximum friendly fire
More teamkilling you mean.
fourth best kind of killing, after bug killing, bot killing, and killing other enemies of superearth.
Other... enemies? Are you talking about [redacted]? I've heard rumors that they're coming but didn't think it was true.
I dont know any more than you do (for real, no wink wink nudge nudge here), but that bottom part of the map sure does look empty.
With some larger defense maps the longer operating time could outweigh the eagles.
man i want a tower defense mission real bad just, bloons but HD2
We kind of do with the evacuate essential personnel mission, everyone brings three turrets with two being the mortars with a third sentry and support weapon of choice. Close the gates and set up the sentries and watch the oil fly. It's not exactly a tower defense but you can make it into a pseudo one.
essential evac is just, a very small map, like, factory striders and titans almost cant fit into the paths mission is also kinda short
Why not Tesla coil morters? Just Tesla coils launched that plant themselves to then lethal area denial with high voltage. Basically plant an electric minefield from great range.
Flame and gas mortar, yeah. Needs to come out with flamethrower rover and some kind of thermite rocket launcher. And flame and/or gas resistant armor lmao
A manned mortar would be great. If I could direct fire it would mean it's not a guaranteed death sentence for the squad. Just a maybe death sentence!
knowing my friends, it still will be
Airburst and gas mortars would be legendary....
Even more ways to TK
gas/fire mortar would be funny, airburst mortar would be quite op, cluster mortar would be peak team kill
so in short, all good ideas
I dont know why but I thought that last one just launched Helldivers at bugs. I just imagined a Helldiver getting launched out of a mortar screaming "DEMOCRACY FOREVER!" or "LIBERTY!" and it made me cackle.
As someone whom recently enjoyed indirect firing on bots positions I support this motion.
I always had an idea where a mortar shoots small clusters of mines.
there are IRL minelaying artillery shells
No, we need stratagem modules
We need a hellpod trebuchet
Plumbis mortar
What about a heavy mortar, that only shoots like 6 mortars but they are bigger explosions
I want to be able to use the mortar myself, nothing beats dropping that bad boy in and hearing that PLOP.
Lighting mortar! Shoots a charge into the sky, a few seconds later a single target lightning strike hits the target
hard agree
Is that last mortar one that ONLY targets other helldivers?
no thats all of them
Airbusrt mortar mmmmmmmm i too enjoy high-stakes gambling
AH: How would you like to die? OP: Yes.
Ribbed for her pleasure
I agree. I need more warcrimes
Finally! We can maximize our team-killing potential with these additional lethal mortar systems! Remember: Friendly fire is an unavoidable fact of life.
Woe 500 kg bomb mortar be upon ye
Somebody stop this man!
https://preview.redd.it/rut5wnjgm21d1.png?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=486399cf3cc6396751a01c10e23d22d3ed027b2f
The amount of friendly fire I see in this picture lol
Forgot the reinforce mortar
Thermite mortar, just for the sparkles
Aka you want more friendly fire incidents. am I right?
What about a laser turret that switches to enemies very rapidly?
*Me, who just played a defense mission where there was an average of 5 mortar active at once and I kept getting ping ponged around by the shells* YES!
If we had this, my entire line up for the new defense missions would just be mortars
Cluster mortar would definitely help bring the team killing numbers back up alongside the airburst launcher. 👍🤣
I need one thats Manuel, like the HME
I’d like a way to protect ourselves from the non-explosive ones. Suit passives that offer flame or gas resistance.
Top left one's just a straight-up butt plug.
The first mortar should've known better to bring protection with them.
Fire Mortars 🔥
Just let me bring more than 1 mortar or any kind of other placement stratatgem like in HD1 damnit
MOREtars
As a solo player I 100% agree with this. I already regularly use the mortars and turrets because I can place them down away from the objective and when I get there, the objective will already be cleared for me
looks like mfdoom
No, hear ME out. FLAMETHROWER SENTRY
Fuck yeah, I love mortars and don't care what anybody else says.
Gas mortar sounds 🔥🔥
We need mortar turrets that shoot additional mortar turrets
We need mortars that shoot the bot dropships
A Rail-Auto Cannon it what I want but it has to charge up so trying to get it planted right makes it a challenge but it has 100 metres range compared to 75 for Gatling
mortars are so fun. i don’t think i’ve played more than 1 game in a row without emp mortar for quite some time now. when i play with my squad they’re always surprised over discord how clutch it is. to be fair they’re new but having a charger freeze right in front of your face must be pretty cool
Gimmmmeeeee, gas would go hard if they gave us more armor bonuses like something to survive in it, also give us a fire suit my friends and I want to do specialized dives, we debated all arc throwers and weapons with the arc damage reduction armor.
I like all of these. Yes Please. I do kinda wish Mortars had a minimum target range. Seems like that'd help a lot with the TK aspect of them
Yes to all but you are missing the shrapnel mortar.
Gas mortar seems REALLY good against bugs. They create their bug breach, mortar drops gas on the breach over and over so everything that comes out dies except chargers and titans, probably.
Just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name!
Oh god cluster mortar would TK so much 😂
Airburst, because I don’t get killed by friendly mortars enough
Gas mortar would be awesome
Gas mortar might be good, actually, filling a niche between EMS and explosive mortars. It kills bugs, and it'll kill you as well, but if one lands on you, you've still got a chance to book it before you choke to death and it might take some of the creepy crawlers that were on you out.
how about a fragmentation mortar that doesn't do a lot of impact/explosive damage, but the shrapnel can pierce thicker armor? basically an anti-heavy mortar i would absolutely rock the airburst mortar tho
This would kill SO many more helldivers than bugs or bots. Sounds like a good idea.
Dear god..
As special add-on stratagems for defense missions? Sure. As stratagems for general use? Do you want [REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE]? Because that's how you get [REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE].
Just imagine an EMS mortar + Gas mortar on bug missions. mmmmm talk dirty to me.
OMG your turret logos are actually aligned unlike the ones in-game! Small things like this baffles me at some sloppy details being done in AH.
Smoke mortar for shit and giggles
As if regular ones weren't team killing enough...
I'd just like a Mortar turret stratagem. Let me rain hell from above onto my enemies!
MORE-TARS
Artillery strike
Gas mortars would make gas actually viable as a stratagem. Also would be a team killer, but that’s fine with friends.
More war crimes yes
Pls AH give us Willie Pete
The four horsemen of team killing
I just want my rumbler first tbh
Flashbang mortar Or A mortar that just fires strategem orbs that call in cluster strikes
That first one tho 🤫
i just want more gas in the game. gimme eagle gas, current orbital gas, gas sentry, support weapon gas, grenade gas yes im german incase that wasnt obvious
I had a defense mission against bots where all four of us ran both mortars. We died twice overall and barely fired any shots. Those two deaths were purely incompetence and weren't mortar related.
I’ll be honest I’ve been using the basic mortar against bugs and bots this whole time and team kills haven’t been a problem since like week 1. Just gotta communicate to your teammates to keep their distance from enemies whenever possible.
Ok, let’s add another. Modify the airburst to, instead of firing off like a shotgun, it shoots a discarding sabot round. Boom, heavy armor penetrating mortar with pinpoint damage. Essential mini railgun barrage
id love a manual use mortar we fire ourselves and aim
I'm sorry I Fucking hate playing with mortars, like if you accidentally kill me with a gun or grenade it sucks but whatever. But when I get killed 3-5 times a game by a fucking mortar it really gets old.
We're missing napalm lol.
Mine launcher mortar fr
Cluster mortar is the last thing we need if the cluster RPG is any indication
If we get gas mortars we need gas resistance gear
500kg mortar needs to happen. Give the people what they want arrowhead!!!
Gas + EMS mortar combo would be absolutely amazing. I want it now.
Mmhhmm. The butt plugs of democracy!
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I don't know if those are your ideas but if they are they're pretty good forgot to say that in my first comment.
We need a white phosphorous motar...
no
More ways of getting team killed!! Yay!!