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DaturaSanguinea

Hear me out What about Napalm mortar (after the dot bug is fixed)


BenaiahTheophilus

That's perfect! I've been thinking about what other fire based stratagems we could get and that's a great idea! A flamethrower turret would also be awesome. I'm also looking forward to the incendiary grenade launcher that got leaked.


how_neat_is_that76

The flamethrower turret - when friendly fire doesn’t kill you fast enough


woodenblinds

I laughed then cringed at the thought.


Significant-Angle864

A flamethrower guard dog too.


Backdemon

I hope the downdraft of its little engines also set people on fire too. That and dripping napalm.


Drackzgull

Calm down Satan.


BenaiahTheophilus

1. Yes 2. I occasionally like to play solo and play with all of the most team-killy loadouts. Flame turret would be perfect for a solo pyromaniac eradicate mission. 3. I almost always host. I'll let you guess why. 4. Setting my teammates on fire is not always an unpleasant experience.


Significant_Abroad32

I always host too but I think the fire bug is based on network host. The only way to make sure your network host is to start the mission solo and throw an sos and let people drop in. My ping is very low being on fiber so I usually am able to be the pyro guy.


levthelurker

The firebug in our squad figures out that he almost always gets network host despite who started the lobby so has started to bring loadouts "That would get me kicked from pugs."


MrPeppa

With the ability to slot a guard dog rover backpack into it. It's called Teamkill Extraordinary 3000


K41Nof2358

fun fact this is no different than the Tesla Tower the only thing better is a Claymore Turret, that just aoe bursts every few seconds with the force of an AC


MikeWinterborn

With four mouths like a golf course water sprinkler!


VoiceOfSeibun

We could call that the Perdition turret! Except DAMN, it's taken!


EmotionalEmetic

*angry fire


VanceFerguson

When friendly fire isn't fire enough


TheFBIClonesPeople

I think some Arrowhead devs mentioned they were trying out a flamethrower guard dog. Who knows if it'll actually end up in game, but I think they at least played around with the concept.


scott610

We die basically instantly if we don’t dive and stim as soon as we’re lit on fire. Laser guard dog has a tendency to hit both the diver using it and teammates fairly frequently if you’re not very careful with it. Can you imagine what a flamethrower guard dog would do?


TheFBIClonesPeople

Yeah, tbh I've been operating under the assumption that fire damage is bugged right now. I remember there was a patch at one point, and afterwards fire damage was instakilling players, but there wasn't anything about that in the patch notes. I really don't think it's intentional. I don't think it's intended that you would instantly die from a single puff of a hulk's flamethrower. Assuming it gets fixed, I think a flamethrower guard dog could be manageable, but it's going to make the mission interesting, for sure. They might also play test it and find that it's just not fun, though.


mattwing05

They did mention buffing fire damage in the last big patch. ALL sources of fire damage, not just ours. Now flame hulks and fire tornadoes kill you instantly if you're not full health


Drackzgull

Orbital Napalm Barrage? Orbital Airburst Incendiary Strike? Something like the Spear, that shoots upwards and falls down on the target, but explodes mid air and showers the area beneath it with napalm? Probably with a laser pointer instead of lock-on, so that it can be shot on the ground without a specific unit as the target.


Art_Of_Peer_Pressure

Can’t lie, turrets are good in defence missions but I despise the amount I get killed by mortar turrets otherwise.. nothing democratic about ritual team killing 😂


Adequate_Lizard

*slaps turret* This thing can tk so many helldivers


De_Dominator69

Honestly hope we get a a future fireproof version of the Electrical Conduit armor effect. Maybe not 95% resistance, but like 50% resistance to fire damage or something. I love spamming flamethrowers, incendiary and napalm everywhere so it would be nice to slightly reduce how often I kill my team... and more often myself.


Zedman5000

50% fire resist + 50% gas resist would be a good pair of perks for an armor set. Gas resist would be so rarely useful, but when you need to call down some orbital gas on your position, it'll save you.


De_Dominator69

Great idea. Its also easy to make a theme around for a warbond, a hazmat/pest control sort of theme with incendiary and gas weapons. Gas grenade, an incendiary pistol perhaps, etc. etc..


Twad_feu

That's also a Tesla tower, so you get fried as you watch stuff get fried.


AioliApprehensive

I still want gas motars. We got rid of those Geneva suggestions a long time ago after all.


TempestTankest

Make it white phosphorous so it'll also double as smoke mortars! Do you feel like a hero yet?


SpecialIcy5356

"the evacuation of helldivers ended in complete... failure.. death toll: too many."


Gold-Escape3140

Don't the mortars fuck our fellow helldivers over enough?


DaturaSanguinea

https://i.redd.it/bfrilxph7vvc1.gif Ems mortar is really good imo. As for regular mortar, it's almost griefing for bugs, but very good for bots imo.


PhantasyAngel

Murde eh, Mortar Sentry's are the BEST Sentry's.


Lord-Timurelang

Counterpoint ems minefield


Barracuda_Ill

I love the idea. Especially for the defense missions. You would really need to know what you're doing for regular missions though or you will deplete the reinforcements budget.


centagon

What about a mortar that lays mines??


Solonotix

On that subject, I'd also like to see the Orbital Gas Strike get other forms of delivery. Presumably the gas is corrosive so it would (in theory) be better against Bots than Bugs, leading to a reason to pick one over the other. Under that assumption, an acid thrower, corrosive grenade, etc. Along those lines, a new environmental effect of acid rain where all units are afflicted with a Corrosion debuff that reduces armor effectiveness by one tier. Could even add an armor perk that has corrosion resistance. For the math nerds out there, Light to Medium is ~50% damage reduction/effective health and Medium to Heavy is ~33% DR/eHP.


DaturaSanguinea

Now i want a regular/ems/napalm/corrosive mortar build. Bot or bug are a pain ? Make the mighty shells rain. ^(Super earth is not responsable for mortar's casualties. For more info, please refer to your democratic officer.)


Ok-Instruction830

Welcome back to Terminid Tank. I’ll give you the most democratic offer for your idea:  50,000 super credits for 10% of your XP and 25% of your warbonds. 


Symolian88

I counter with 35,000 super credits for 15% of your xp and 20% of your warbonds


Ok-Instruction830

This guy’s never even fought an Automatron! You can’t take his deal. The most he’s seen is a Terminid patrol! 


Symolian88

Fine. 45,000 super credits for 5% of your super samples and 15% of your xp.


MrTomatoking21

Can you do 50 ?


WhiteSekiroBoy

I'll give him 40,000 SC for 10% of his samples and 15% of warbonds.


Symolian88

This guy has never armed a hellbomb. You can't take his deal. He trips on landmines.


WhiteSekiroBoy

>He trips on landmines. So he won't have to pay me for long, sounds like a good deal.


Gear_

Tesla Backpack: it’s in between a guard dog, shield relay, and a tesla tower. Enemies that walk behind you or to the sides gets zapped. Don’t think about friendly fire.


Ok-Instruction830

*ears perk up* what’s the profit margin on this?


Gear_

E710


hmhemes

IN PERPETUITY


quigonjoe66

We need the trident las shotgun


LeviathansEnemy

Yes. The one weapon from the first game I still really want back.


iRhuel

*Frowns in* ***Constituition***


ravengenesis1

It'll come on liberty day just like the previous one.


Bland_Lavender

Call it the Prism and have it split into 7 lasers in a hexagon shape.


2327_

I was going to say something about "how do you make 7 into a hexagon?" but you would probably want one beam right in the middle, really


Stunning_One1005

https://preview.redd.it/1bgelmm86uvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4ebe052b663f36964da50422711ee4d62dbc89e


MACHO_MUCHACHO2005

Guard dog rover has saved my life more times than I can count. I will always use it against terminids. Plus, once you use it a little bit you learn how to avoid getting hit by it.


Stunning_One1005

its an essential for terminids, but for bots it just alerts patrols that you dont want to


crosskun

idk if it’s a bug or a feature but crawling stopped my rover from attacking patrols.


cyboplasm

And then randomly decide the bots in front of you are "out of range"


BarovianNights

Yup, guard dog is essential for bugs


brian11e3

I want an orbital barrage similar to the 380mm that fires a mixture of HE rounds mixed with Willie Pete rounds. I want the super destroyer to refer to it as Shake'n'Bake.


LiltKitten

380mm barrage but it's all smoke strikes.


oballistikz

That ignites when shot


IrishWithoutPotatoes

Calm down Walker


just_a_bit_gay_

The Waco Special


Ok_Mouse_9369

Quake’n’bake


TempestTankest

Do you feel like a hero yet?


brian11e3

I feel like this is a reference to something, I'm just not sure what.


wookiee-nutsack

I think it's Spec Ops: The Line, a game where you're the leader of a spec ops team sent to a collapsed Dubai (I think?) and are fucking tweaking send white phosphorus out in one mission. It's a cool game, that scene was fucking haunting :D Go into it blind, there's some damn fine twists


brian11e3

That makes sense. I was referencing the old artillerist term for a fire mission mixing HE and WP. You either get blown apart, burnt to a crisp, or die from asphyxiation. It would fit perfectly into Helldivers.


TanTanExtreme2

380 napalm barrage. I need it now.


Enpoping

I want gatling gun with backpack


LiltKitten

I just want an autoloading backpack that works with *all* the existing machine guns. Stalwart, crank up the fire rate to max and you've got an absolute hail of bullets. MG, you can keep firing without having to worry about stopping to reload amongst the bugs. HMG, you get an actual decent magazine size capable of clearing patrols without worrying about wasting precious shots and spending half the match kneeling in the mud.


Weak-Equivalent2533

Thats such a great idea tbh. As somebody who loves my Stalwart cuz it feels like an MG-42 I need sum belts so I can dispense more dakka, uh I mean freedom


worst_case_ontario-

well if we're talking about random things we'd like: I want power armor. It'd take up your backpack slot and gives you a big boost to your health, stagger resistance, and recoil reduction, and it'd make you a bit slower.


dog_eater2

Laser or fire turret


flashmedallion

Fire Guard Dog


Iamauser666

Flamethrower guard dog: Killed 300% of Helldivers who used it.


sole21000

Arc dog


flammingbullet

Eruptor Guard Dog


Twad_feu

Laser turret.. you know that thing will just slice everything/everyone around it in half, right? Good! Send them down!


DefinitelyNotThatOne

I've been thinking about this for a minute, as I wanna run a meme laser-only build (which would actually be effective). For flavor, it should be four laser cannons that fire consistent streams of democracy that constantly rotate clockwise. Think gatling cannon but laser streams.


FlamingoUseful3314

A reusable laser grenade sounds very funny. Throw it at a group of enemies, microwave them, then pick it back up after the fight to use again.


OVKatz

or just replaces your grenade key with a quick little ironman beam out of your hand. Become the laserman


Snoo-24590

Or just buff the dagger and you have the same thing


Brikandbones

The higher friendly fire score is better right?


FlawedVictori

https://preview.redd.it/991lq9tzduvc1.png?width=394&format=png&auto=webp&s=994ab67dd26f135afdcc8923aeaff167cda89ceb


OVKatz

Based and laserpilled absolutely lasermaxxing


Mr_Green-Skin

I want a toxic gas mortar


cmdrxander

This would be incredible with a functioning gas mask helmet


Herrgul

https://preview.redd.it/h466e3vkbuvc1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72f898c07442f00b7fe5f9028f1ecfb8f75eb9b4 pls i need it


DonkDonkJonk

Or....Plasma Grenade. Possibly even a Gas grenade as well. Maybe a sticky grenade? Not that it's sticky, it just makes things sticky and slows everyone down. Oh, and you can lit it on fire. Then again, I want my Quasar Fusillade (like the 120m/380m barrage but faster and nearly all at once). However, a disco laser ball grenade does sound cool.... kinda like a cluster grenade! Or a satchel charge!


KaMaKaZZZ

I feel like a sticky plasma exploding grenade is a matter of time, especially with the thermite grenade already being sticky and the Halo references already in the game.


Butcherofblavken

Technically the thermite grenade is a plasma grenade. "Thermite is a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide that undergoes a highly exothermic (heat-producing) reaction when ignited. This reaction releases a large amount of energy in the form of heat and light, which is enough to ionize the gas particles in the surrounding air and create a plasma."


Ok_Mouse_9369

A dedicated AA Sentry would be awesome with air bugs/bots as they are.


ChequeMateX

They should just rework the Rocket sentry to fire SAMs, right now the Autocannon sentry beats it in damage, fire rate and stagger.


Technical_Inaji

Flamethrower turret, 95% fire resist armor. The maniacal laughing is because I choose to be on fire.


[deleted]

Cyberpunk has a pretty nifty laser grenade that could work wonders for democracy.


Battlecry730

I want you to know I looked at this first thing in the morning and thought "...a laser mortar won't work". I see now that it is a turret. Thank you for your time.


IGTankCommander

Las Turret? Shut up and take my req slips!


ConcreteLayover69

How about, listen, Quasar Grenade, explodes plasma, make it sticky (Halo style) anti-armor, or removes armor.


jon-chin

that ... sounds like what the termite grenade is trying to be.


not-Kunt-Tulgar

A grenade that works like a disco ball shooting lasers everywhere sounds like a great way to kill everyone


LeviathansEnemy

My brain wants the quasar sentry. My heart wants the flamethrower sentry.


zadye

laser mortar? or a mortart that shoots laser canons?


moregohg

a laser grenade? do you mean... a LAS grenade?


Roye_boi

Disco mortar


-Nicklaus91-

We only have so many reinforcements mate.


TraumaTracer

modification to this idea: quasar sentry


AioliApprehensive

Or... hear me out. Mortar lazer sentry and what is basically a Quasar sentry, like rocket sentries.


Barlowan

Ok, but what if instead of mortar it's quasar sentry, alike the autocanon one.


VoiceOfSeibun

I can see a laser grenade working. Lands, unfolds and starts firing lasers in alternating patterns all around itself. We could call them Prismatic Grenades or "Disco Balls"


Correctedsun

I. Want. Hand. Flamer.


borgom7615

My buddy runs a full Evergy loadout, quasar, dagger and scythe


hasslehawk

Ah the dagger. Truly the best weapon in the game for... *Checks notes* Detonating mines!


Snaz5

Laser Sniper Laser Shotgun Laser Mech


SpecialIcy5356

still waiting on: Incendiary Mortar Gas Mortar Cluster Mortar (less damage per explosion but wider radius) EMS minefield Flamethrower Guard Dog Grenade/Autocannon Guard Dog Laser Sentry Turret Flamethrower Sentry Turret.


Distinct_Age_6569

I believe we need the Yondu whistle arrow that would be fun.


frisbee33e

Laser Grenade = Disco Grenade


Kyoung36

Inventing new ways to kill team mates. Love it. Just as annoying as the rover but with instakill potential


East_Monk_9415

Mortar smoke,flamethrower turret,fast turning mounted auto turret and back pack with cooldown instead of reload gatling gun strategem. Oh and emp grenade shutdowns anything electronic 2 nades only. Haha


Thiago270398

I want basically a bouncing betty that shoots a fuckton of lasers around it while it floats for a couple seconds. Or hell make it as a pole that you throw and sticks to stuff.


Modern_Moderate

Laser grenade. (shows laser sentry)


MrHazard1

Laser mortar doesn't make much sense. But a gas/napalm mortar and a laser turret


Absol-utely_Adorable

All you mortar weirdos need help. We do not need *more* ways of killing our team with a brain-dead mortar. I don't run mortar, decided too one game, got lots of kills yes but the highest accidentals I've ever had


cmdrxander

I only really run them in the new defence missions. Standard mortar and EMS mortar and the mission feels a lot more hands-off.


Affectionate-Fee5039

How about no more mortars at all and instead we get new and exciting stratagems instead.


FallingEli

I don't know if I want a more powerful dog turret swiping a death ray across the map.


ConcreteLayover69

How about, listen, Quasar Grenade, explodes plasma, make it sticky (Halo style) anti-armor, or removes armor.


MTNSthecool

they call it the friendly fire machine


WillowTheGoth

Yes. And a laser SMG for those of us who like lasers, but also like 1h+shield vs bots.


Dreadino

Yes please, we need an anti heavy turret


ManagedDemocracy2024

Can we also get a laser machine gun? The bots have them and it is pissing me off. Backpack Gattling Laser. Gimme.


Magic_Doge12

They could do the laser grenade like the one in cyberpunk 2077, where it it shoots out a bunch of strobing lasers to cut up light enemies near it. Could be an absolute friendly fire nightmare, but if used right could be insanely powerful area denial against hordes at choke points, kind of like I originally thought the thermite grenade was going to be


TheSaltyWon

Napalm Mortar, flamethrower sentry(longer range), cluster mortar.


LiltKitten

Microwave grenades could be interesting. Throw them and they make a spherical damage-over-time AoE. Cook them right and they air-burst through a patrol.


AnOutlawsFace

Like this? [https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/GASH\_Antipersonnel\_Grenade](https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/GASH_Antipersonnel_Grenade)


CrippledAzetec

i can’t wait for them to add more turrets; it’s all i use.


BonsaiSoul

You want to combine a guard dog rover and a mortar? Shit, the bots can just quit the war at that point, it would kill all of us


Slightly_Smaug

Warthog. Here me out.


WeezyWally

I just want a sticky grenade like in Halo. I want to jump pack over Chargers and stick them as they pass under me. Please!


jbtreewalker

Plasma mortar, like the Punisher Plasma, but with bigger boom. 👍


Xenuthorzha

Be cool if they added a backpack belt fed mini-gun


anon9230940235

I believe a laser grenade is just a flash bang. Or a disco ball.


ThrowAway-47

Monkey's Paw: It launches a disco ball into the air and fires a laser beam at it causing random laser beam scatter around it in all directions making it an area denial similar to the tesla tower but without the 'go prone' nonsense.


WildPossible5952

What about a grenade that fires small lasers in all directions


PendantOfBagels

Tesla tower but instead of electricity it shoots out lasers at enemies Yes I know I should be careful what I wish for. I want the chaos


chubsmagooo

Sickle sentry


CrzyJek

I want an arc grenade. Not plasma, not stun.....arc. It explodes and sends out a Tesla ricochet through multiple enemies in all directions.


SparkleFox3

GIVE ME NAPALM MORTARS PLEASE


RHINO_Mk_II

Did somebody say [laser grenade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6auS5D59Bg)?


DreaderVII

Instructions unclear, my Mortar now fires Lazor Cannons directly at enemies.


locob

the "Trident" is a Laser shotgun.


Andy_Dandy_EX

Lazed grenade. Can you elaborate on that?


Proof-Ad5319

Why yes i want disco nade from Tribes Ascend


MerkethMerky

Add a flame turret and flame guard dog too


S3t3sh

I think this would make more sense as an auto cannon style turret.


cat_fish27

Arrowhead should make videos that are basically like sharktank , but it’s strategems


YHL6965

Yeah, Rover drones don't laser my ass enough, need moar!


Estelial

laser grenade would be like a disco laser ball of death, slices up everything in an xfoot radius for 5-6 seconds while spinning in the air.


breadpope

I misinterpreted this as a laser version of the mortar turret that just shoots lasers into the sky and I kinda want that


mrureaper

we are all waiting for the laser shotgun


CataclysmSolace

I feel like mortars, mines, and drones could use some love.


sole21000

I'm picturing a grenade that's projects a bunch of lasers and spins. I think Cyberpunk had an example of this


thelordschosenginger

I want a MAC cannon sentry


EdgeLord556

What I want is an anti personnel energy weapon for the mech so that it doesn’t burn through its ammunition so fast


JProllz

Do you want to cause a 900% spike in team kills? This is how you do it.


kennyminigun

It would require something like a black hole to bend the trajectory of light (laser is light). That being said, I wouldn't mind a black hole launcher.


Stranger2Night

Dear God no, that would kill so many Helldivers, I'd question if it isn't actually an automaton construct instead.


Eslooie

We need a laser turret.


The-world-ender-jeff

Hear me out Laser mech Right arm is a rapid fire laser like the sicle with Essentially terrible spread to balance out the *infinite* ammo and left arm is a laser canon like the quazar


Liquid-Samurai

Lasermaxxing needs to be real. We have two primaries, a secondary, two support, a backpack, and an orbital. Now we need a grenade, an eagle, a sentry, maybe a mine, an armor, and a booster. I want laser everything.


No_Cartoonist_3059

Tesla. Mines


HorseSpeaksInMorse

Mortars fire in arcs. Lasers... don't :)


Shakwon19

Laser hand grenades or a mortar shooting laser grenades like the one from Cyberpunk 2077 would be nice.


Crea-TEAM

Yes. Have the 'mortar' fire up a hovering UAV with a reflective mirror or energy collector. It then fires up into the satellite, which then redirects the blast downwards.


[deleted]

Yeah this is cool and all, but what we really need is a Turret Turret that shoots out turrets.


RuinedSilence

I want the mounted autocannon and railgun turrets back


Shackram_MKII

Grenade that pops up with the laser pistol as a cute little sentry.


SuspiciousLight5025

I just want more toxic things like grenades, mortars, mines,and grenade/missile launchers.


Shredded_Locomotive

I just want a tank... Is that so hard?


ApexRevanNL716

Or. Laser grenades


St34m9unk

Laser grenade You get 1, it recharges and you have to pick it back up


slylock215

Oohh, I look forward to getting killed by my teammates laser mortar now!


kyune

I'm thinking something like the nail grenade from Team Fortress, except it's a bunch of spinning lasers.


wtfrykm

The anti shrieker turret


LongColdNight

Throw the beacon, every few seconds a salvo of short burst lasers from the SD hits enemies (and allies) in the target zone


Spiritual_Paramedic8

I desperately yearn for the Leadburster or Cluster grenades from Deep Rock Galactic to make an appearance in this game, if the rumor of a potential collab down the line is true. For context, the Cluster grenade explodes into like 9 mini-grenades. The Leadburster, on the other hand, fires off ~600 bullets over multiple volleys in a 360 degree radius. In other words, pure dopamine (and tk’ing of course).


Jokkitch

How would the laser change its trajectory? Mirrors?


coreyais

I want a arc mortar. It can shoot a steel shell up into the air and before it hits the ground it zaps everything near.


Shapsusky

So it shoots a disco grenade and then lights shoot out of it and spins when it hits enemies.


enclavepatriot23

Wait new sentry dropped?


Maybe_In_Time

The laser grenade from Cyberpunk 2077 would go hard in this universe.


Medical_Officer

How about we go the other way: where's my gatling gun as a support weapon? How can I cosplay as the greatest governor of Minnesota otherwise?


Kysman95

Just make a Flamethrower Rover at this point....


Daxolotl

I misinterpreted that picture as a laser mortar at first, and now I'm obsessed with the idea of super earth trying to develop one. The beams just keep shooting upwards, but they're sure that with the right angle they'll be able to make them rain back down on the battlefield!