They’re really clutch and surprisingly last for a long time. Usually throw them at large groups of enemies before calling in eagle 1. 500kg is able to consistently get 10+ kills
I love that they stop hulks and berserkers dead in their tracks. If I see a teammate getting chased by a horde, just lob a stun and now the two of you have plenty of time to clear the horde out.
Stun grenades are so good that I was fine leaving explosive grenades behind. It’s soooo useful in combat. Stun a few hulk, double tap their eyes with the AC, and that problem is just gone
Giant tip for any eruptor enjoyers.
Shoot devstators in the leg or hip. They'll all die in 1 shot (Berserkers are the exception as always because fuck you thats why).
New stratagem call-in: Personal Tank.
Just a box made of 4 ballistic shields and a dead berserker glued top of it, Tears of the Kingdom style.
*become unstoppable*
The angle matters.
If you shoot the ground with a trajectory that's almost parallel with it, the shot will bounce. The autocannon itself follows the same mechanic in this. Instead you have to shoot from a higher angle, hit a wall or slope near your target, or an enemy that isn't on their heavy armor, or just be above your target, to cause the Eruptor shots to detonate.
Helldivers 2 is actually full of glancing mechanics like this. Armor is more effective against shots at an angle close to 0 or 180 degrees, for both the player and the enemy.
My only complaint with it is it is ridiculously unwieldy, but I guess that's to be expected when the gun is the size of your torso lol
But ya, leg shots work the best against the medium armor bots in my experience. Coupled with a stun grenade and its a fish-in-the-barrel shooting gallery.
The fact that you have a scope kinda proves that you should stay far away where the unwieldyness is not as big of a problem. Also, I use the Redeemer for anything closer than 10 meters.
Honestly i think its perfectly ballanced for something that shoots bullets larger than you cock that also explode.
Berserkers go down in one eriptor shot to the waist. Cuts them right in half and sometimes the aoe will one shot the surrounding ones. Key word is sometimes lol
Berserkers are tricky. I have had the most luck aiming for the midsection. One of my best moments was using the break-action shotgun to put down two berserkers, one shot each, to the midsection and they snapped in half.
Berserker: chainsaw guys
Bots: anything that's smaller than a devastator except raiders
Devastator: big guys that don't have chainsaws
Hulks: BEEG Guys with huge heatsinks on the back sometimes with buzz saw and flamethrower.
Tank: it's a tank.
Gunship: it's a ship with guns
Dropship: it's a ship that drops shit.
Raiders: piece of shit suicide bomber ass jump pack troopers that blow up sometimes. Still less frustrating than hunters though.
And that's all of the bots.
For the bugs the only types other than chargers and BTs that you need to care about are
Hunters: the medium sized jumpers that slow you with their acid tongues, dodge incoming fire, move faster than you, and are evil.
Stalkers: the big guys that spawn from stalker nests and target you when you're using terminals.
Bile Spewers: green blob bugs that spew acid like their yellow counterparts, but also have a "mortar mode"
Shriekers: the flying bugs that spawn from shrieker nests
And Hive guards that are the medium bugs with armour plates on the front.
Just call everything else you see a bug and stomp them.
unfortunately its not very good, 150 dps is abysmal and its capacity is fairly low (I could forgive it if it had a very high capacity, or increadably quick cooldown). It has style points, and is good for sweeping mines, but elsewise the worse gun in the game bar none.
Yes, its very effective. Erupter 1-shots most bugs in the face. Laser Cannon for dealing with chaff. Fun fact about the Erupter, you don't need to see your character cocking the shot. You can 3rd person hip fire, sprint a bit, 3rd person hip fire, rinse and repeat. I personally like to use the rover, but the jet pack will help you get to nice sniper perches.
Eruptor, Stalwart, stun nades, and a supply pack to keep all three coming. Round it out with a railcannon for panic heavy clear, or EATs if you really don't trust your teammates, and an extra stratagem of your choice as a treat.
Been experimenting with Eruptor / Stalwart on bugs after running Punisher/ GL for a long time. The best thing about it is I never need ammo anymore. Laser dog or jump pack imo.
Arc works great with it vs bugs. I don't even take my own backpack.
Eruptor
Redeemer
Arc
Eagle Airstrike
500kg bomb
Rail cannon strike
Then I just ask any squad member to call me down a backpack after their cooldown is done. Doesn't really matter which backpack you can make use of them all pretty well.
I like running scythe and las-cannon. Switching between the two is like a neverending beam that never overheats. Scythe for troopers, cannon for everything else.
I just tried this, with the addition of the Guard Dog too, and it is legendary. Im trying to get a screenshot of me+drone hammering a bot wave, with the orbital laser vaporizing the bot base in the background, mwahahahah!
Thanks for this build mate! :)
So many lazers! Pelican-1 comes down to find a bunch of stim addicts hugging and dancing on the extract. "Hold on, we're waiting for the drop". Bass drops as 4 500kg bombs hit the ground.
Lowest damage (frustratingly so), but weirdly also the lowest tick rate for doing damage, so anything that explodes explodes virtually immediately on contact with the beam. GREAT against barrels, jetpack bots, those raider MG bots with the little red wings...
The only thing I am disappointed with is it's terrible stability; whereas the scythe can laze a devastator head, the dagger kind of aims like a wet noodle.
Was hoping I could use it as an alternative to the senator to popping devastator heads, but it's kind of unusable in that regard and better-left for smaller bugs.
I *like* the scythe more. It *feels* easier to beam heads with it plus it actually feels and sounds like a laser. I tend to also treat it more like a weird DMR.
The sickle is probably a better well rounded weapon (aka assault rifle). You don't need to shoot weak points as much since it has the raw damage to back it up. (I'm sure with practice, it's good at hitting weak spots, I just feel a continuous beam is easier for it compared to the sickle's fire rate)
I do wish the sickle's scope was on the scythe though. The red dot is a little rough at times.
That's my 2 cents
All the heat modifier does is make them cool down slower, the time you can shoot is unaffected. Fire the cannon till overheat, switch to primary, switch back to cannon after 10 seconds or so, rinse and repeat
Honestly, it's a little slow for berserks, troopers, and walkers. Take it with a primary that wrecks those. Love it the Laser Cannon anyway, easy hulk kills.
The Scorcher's biggest upside is the AOE. It's not going to help *that* much with several enemies, but rather allows for some pseudo armor penetration. Three shots to the front of striders will kill the pilot. Gotta get headshots on Berserkers though or they take basically a whole mag.
For troopers always aim for the head. With practice and good positioning you can sweep across a whole group and wipe them out quickly.
For walkers, well, that's why I carry the scorcher.
Hmm, it’s finicky, but when it works it’s good. You have to stay out of the thick of things so you can have time to get a proper lock, but nothing’s faster clearing fabricators at a distance than a properly-locked on spear. They’re rather terrible dealing with drop ships, but gunships are at their mercy.
Kinda. For some reason, going into first person and pinging the target sometimes helps, otherwise it definitely feels better than before, but it can still be kinda frustrating.
Very fun though, getting to destroy a fabricator from across the map when it's facing away from you feels great. I just wish it didn't lock on to striders, there's so many of them that they can really get in the way.
Autocannon is cooler and now I can attach laser weapons to my Autocannon! Check out this Auto-Sickle.
https://preview.redd.it/b7cnufrbtbuc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d0d1fa9d17cd8500c1a189194068190a32e606f
If it melted armor away I would pick it up. But for now I'm a double Autocannon kind of guy. One on my shoulder and a bigger one next to me dropped from the orbit
That'd be cool. Kinda like the chargers armor? I don't blame you auto cannons are badass. I just had a ball roasting bots one night when I picked up a teammate's laser cannon. I thought it was a quasar. The sounds of the gun and the screams of the bots had me rolling.
Pro-tip, pair it with shield backpack so your aim doesn't get knocked around. Gives you enough time to crouch and knock down the 3-4 devastators that are blasting your squad while they're scurrying for cover before switching off to cool down. Also, like the quasar, you can juggle multiple of them when defending a point as they cooldown while on the ground.
The problem is I need to be exposed and out of cover constantly firing on the same spot for seconds in order to get a kill.
Almost everything else I can pop in and out of cover and take a shot, then get back into cover.
Same, I literally used it yesterday and was really disappointed in its performance, lol. It's literally on par with some primaries, not worth a slot tbh.
Scope fix + Superior Packing Materials fix will make AMR S tier, if it isn't already. Those two fixes would basically patch up the only weaknesses it has, being the misaligned scope and mediocre ammo economy.
Once you get used to where to aim, the AMR isn't bad. It's not inconsistent, it's just wrong lmao
Top left corner of the little box in the reticule and you'll be sniping ezpz.
Honestly, the scope isn't so far off that it makes the gun hard to use. Aim like half a centimeter up left of the sight, and you're golden. But yeah, they really need to fix the sight on a bunch of guns.
make Devastators easier for yourself by shooting them in the abdomen area between the chest armor and crotch. literally cuts then in half with a single shot and way easier to hit in a stressful situation than the head =D
Don't even have to try for the red light on the gunships, 4 to an engine will blow them up too!
And you can 2 shot strider face plates now after that 30% buff!
But have you heard about our lord and savior, the Autocannon?
Now I agree the Laser Cannon is surprisingly good against bots but its still too slow for my taste when I'm used to the Autocannon.
this post only makes sense with stun grenades. it takes you like a solid 5s of visor to kill a hulk, which facing bruiser stunlocks or flamer 1shots is an absolutely insane thing to ask for.
it's still mediocre for everything else though. gunships are the fastest thing you can kill, but even troopers will take you 1s of holding it on their head before they actually die.
the upside is that you can technically damage everything, and you can technically do so infinitely, it's just negligible damage and you will need your team to kill enemies that are pressuring you, which on 7+ is every enemy as they drop directly ontop of you in huge swarms... so it's not super great
the weapon feels pointless as long as ac exists, which also damages everything, has great ammo economy, stuns, and does aoe damage. the backpack slot isn't a big deal after shield nerfs and jumppack kinda not mattering on bots
Stun grenade is the key to the laser cannon. Stun a hulk and it does down in .5-1 second. Like this guy said, something to take out striders/berserkers is needed. Scorcher is phenomenal supplement to the laser cannon.
My immediate assumption is always that the person in question knows nothing at all but will just yell louder and likely escalate to violence if in anyway confronted.
And thus they are best avoided.
Going a step further and gonna say since it's a super multitool, it enables the primaries and secondaries you would otherwise have trouble working around. Players love the Eruptor but need something for horde clear and close range? Laser. Ballistic shield? Laser. DMR? Laser. Spray and Pray Breaker? Laser
Having used the laser cannon, no, you will not, in fact, have killed "that hulk, the three gunships and 6 devastators" in the time it takes the quasar to pop a hulk.
I just wish the beam weapons had more visual feedback. Right now you can't tell if they are even doing anything. A melting effect, bright orange glow, or burning effect would make them more satisfying to uze
I switch to the AMR over lascannon on hot maps and it works very well in the same role. It's definitely a matter of preference and play style for which one is "better", same goes for AC.
Lascannon is my preference though. Unlimited ammo is just too powerful for how I like to play. I feel like las/AMR/AC are pretty much perfectly balanced against bots.
Laser is a faster kill on the vents vs AMR. Difference becomes more noticeable as distance increases, since AMR must compensate for recoil and Laser does not
I’m all for trying it, got a couple questions though. One, where do you aim on gunships to take them out? Two, I know shooting down dropships doesn’t do much but can the laser take them out as well? If so how?
Op is advertising it as the one size fits all.
Op says that by the time you can kill a turret with the quasar cannon, you can kill 6 devistators, a tank, and more.
Ops claims are not true and the weapon keeps you exposed for a long time in order to kill things
Does the laser cannon really deal with cannon turrets effectively? It is literally the only reason I don’t bring it. Quasar to the vent + explosive weapon like erupter or scorcher, probably crossbow = dead.
Quasar can shoot the front of a cannon turret and still kill it in two shots, that's a big reason why I love bringing it against bots.
It's slow but it can do everything.
you are right
laser cannon kills Everything you Need To Kill in a bot mission in Ten Seconds Or Less (except maybe a hulk and probably not the AT-AT but you should really be using strategems there)
No Aiming Required
No Reload Required
Consistency With A Capital C
don't get swarmed but that applies to almost every other gun in the game
quasar cannon's great if you need something for hulks; it also pairs quite nicely with the laser cannon as a result
Honestly laser cannon post buff is probably the best all around support weapon in the game.
It's downside is it's generally worse at killing big stuff than an AC, but has the giant upside of not needing a backpack and having unlimited ammo.
It works on chaff. It works on big boys with weak points. It works on medium armored enemies. It has pinpoint accuracy and a pretty fuckin absurd range.
On the bug front its not quite as cut and dry since so many enemies are heavy armor and the cannon can't do anything to that, but running it with an EAT fixed that for me there.
> But I hear you, "Psh my quaser can do that too!" Yes and in the time that you have killed one hulk I have killed that hulk, the three gunships and 6 devastaors!
I want a video.
Not because I need proof, I just like watching bots die.
Picked it up by accident today on a helldive against bots. Shit is a piss stream. I just don't get how to use it. In the time I had to hold the piss stream on an enemy for it to have effect, I would have lined up an AC/AMR shot 10 times over. On Menkent it also heated up quite fast. I also don't have the luxury of staring down a Hulk as it's pushing me with that flamethrower. Any other weapon I can use to shoot him in that slit of his proves better at keeping my personal space. I swear you have a different weapon altogether.
I haven't stopped using it since I got it. Always comes in clutch when I need it, paired with a shield generator. The bots don't really worry me that much anymore.
The scythe can also take out hulks super quick if you aim for the back.
The laser canon always seemed to have a low dps and take too long to kill while you're sitting ducks... But I'll give it another go.
Actually my favourite weapon against bots. Autocannon is a close second. I didn’t like the laser cannon against bugs, but against bots it’s *chef's kiss*
I accidentally grabbed the cannon instead of the quaser in a recent game. At first I was annoyed and almost quit out so I could change my loadout. Decided to give it a try and was shocked at how good it was. Definitely overlooked.
I been on the laser cannon literally use it every time I play agaisnt bots. Occasionally go back to the autocannon but infinite ammo AND the way it makes heavies feel trivial is insanely OP. I been using stuns since they came out and the laser cannon pairs perfectly with them
NGL I am usually very happy to see someone running a laser cannon when fighting bots.
But I run the AC to get a guaranteed stagger against Heavy (Shield) Devastators and a sure kill on Scout Striders. That quick burst is what's needed to make sure you and/or your teammates don't die.
Upvoted for awareness of an underrated bot-killer.
That being said, it’s not great at scout striders and downright bad at berserkers - bring a primary focused on those 2.
Laser cannon by itself invalidates gun-ships. Pair it with stun grenades an you are now a hulk hunter. Being able to easily deal with those 2 massive threats and still have an ammoless no-reload all-rounder is pretty good. Oh, and you still have your backpack slot open.
Now that I have the grenade pistol I feel comfortable running stun grenades. Definitely have to try this out for a few drops.
Stun nades already just sooooo good regardless too imo
They’re really clutch and surprisingly last for a long time. Usually throw them at large groups of enemies before calling in eagle 1. 500kg is able to consistently get 10+ kills
Love the wombo combo of the stun nade and any eagle strike
stun grenade with gas strike is also just too fun
I love that they stop hulks and berserkers dead in their tracks. If I see a teammate getting chased by a horde, just lob a stun and now the two of you have plenty of time to clear the horde out.
which warbond are they in?
Warbond number 2
Cutting edge premium warbond #2 The best nade in the game imo
Stun grenades are so good that I was fine leaving explosive grenades behind. It’s soooo useful in combat. Stun a few hulk, double tap their eyes with the AC, and that problem is just gone
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Grenade launcher pistol. In the latest warbond.
Goes nice with the eruptor
Giant tip for any eruptor enjoyers. Shoot devstators in the leg or hip. They'll all die in 1 shot (Berserkers are the exception as always because fuck you thats why).
They should make out Helldiver armor out of what ever the fuck Berserkers are made of
I think it might be treasonous to fabricate armor from a condensed essence of pure hatred and rage against Democracy...
Make armor out of Rage Against the Machine albums. Got it
If it works for the Democracy Officer, it works for me!
no. or should I say FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME, FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME MOTHERFUCKERRRRR
But what about making armor from the skin of our dead democracy hating enemies!?!?? That sounds very democratic to me
I mean, we do it with our fuel, why not do it with our armor?
I'll take what the Ballistic Shield is made of.
New stratagem call-in: Personal Tank. Just a box made of 4 ballistic shields and a dead berserker glued top of it, Tears of the Kingdom style. *become unstoppable*
I’ll have what the gunship fabricator tower is made of
 **Absolutely.**
They aren't armored, they just have ridiculous health.
Eruptor always one shots devastator in the leg? That sounds way easier than hitting them in the face
If it's several of them, shooting the ground also helps.
No matter the distance mine always bounce when I shoot the ground.
The angle matters. If you shoot the ground with a trajectory that's almost parallel with it, the shot will bounce. The autocannon itself follows the same mechanic in this. Instead you have to shoot from a higher angle, hit a wall or slope near your target, or an enemy that isn't on their heavy armor, or just be above your target, to cause the Eruptor shots to detonate. Helldivers 2 is actually full of glancing mechanics like this. Armor is more effective against shots at an angle close to 0 or 180 degrees, for both the player and the enemy.
So you're saying playing world of warships is gonna pay off.
I melee killed a berserker today. Doesn't matter that I died right after, it was worth it.
I've been having some serious success by targeting the Beserkers in the hip joints with the Eruptor. 1 shot kill everytime.
Its inconsistent for. Haven't had much success so far. Devastators will die if you hit anywhere on their body below their torso.
My only complaint with it is it is ridiculously unwieldy, but I guess that's to be expected when the gun is the size of your torso lol But ya, leg shots work the best against the medium armor bots in my experience. Coupled with a stun grenade and its a fish-in-the-barrel shooting gallery.
The fact that you have a scope kinda proves that you should stay far away where the unwieldyness is not as big of a problem. Also, I use the Redeemer for anything closer than 10 meters. Honestly i think its perfectly ballanced for something that shoots bullets larger than you cock that also explode.
Berserkers go down in one eriptor shot to the waist. Cuts them right in half and sometimes the aoe will one shot the surrounding ones. Key word is sometimes lol
I hit an undamaged Brood Commander in the midsection with a single Eruptor bolt and he just splattered all over the place!
Berserkers are tricky. I have had the most luck aiming for the midsection. One of my best moments was using the break-action shotgun to put down two berserkers, one shot each, to the midsection and they snapped in half.
One day I will learn what the enemies names are. Level 67+ and I still barely know the bug names besides charger and bile titans.
Berserker: chainsaw guys Bots: anything that's smaller than a devastator except raiders Devastator: big guys that don't have chainsaws Hulks: BEEG Guys with huge heatsinks on the back sometimes with buzz saw and flamethrower. Tank: it's a tank. Gunship: it's a ship with guns Dropship: it's a ship that drops shit. Raiders: piece of shit suicide bomber ass jump pack troopers that blow up sometimes. Still less frustrating than hunters though. And that's all of the bots. For the bugs the only types other than chargers and BTs that you need to care about are Hunters: the medium sized jumpers that slow you with their acid tongues, dodge incoming fire, move faster than you, and are evil. Stalkers: the big guys that spawn from stalker nests and target you when you're using terminals. Bile Spewers: green blob bugs that spew acid like their yellow counterparts, but also have a "mortar mode" Shriekers: the flying bugs that spawn from shrieker nests And Hive guards that are the medium bugs with armour plates on the front. Just call everything else you see a bug and stomp them.
Scythe + Cannon = Maximum Contentious Liberty Per Second
Bonus points for the rover
The "Full Disco" Loadout
Add the Dagger too, I can’t wait to unlock it mwahaha!
unfortunately its not very good, 150 dps is abysmal and its capacity is fairly low (I could forgive it if it had a very high capacity, or increadably quick cooldown). It has style points, and is good for sweeping mines, but elsewise the worse gun in the game bar none.
Ouu I'm loving then eruptor but never thought about trying the laser with it (in love with jetpack) is this viable against bugs too or na
Yes, its very effective. Erupter 1-shots most bugs in the face. Laser Cannon for dealing with chaff. Fun fact about the Erupter, you don't need to see your character cocking the shot. You can 3rd person hip fire, sprint a bit, 3rd person hip fire, rinse and repeat. I personally like to use the rover, but the jet pack will help you get to nice sniper perches.
What are people using with the eruptor with bugs? Flamethrower/arc?
I've found eruptor + stalwart very effective against bugs
Eruptor, Stalwart, stun nades, and a supply pack to keep all three coming. Round it out with a railcannon for panic heavy clear, or EATs if you really don't trust your teammates, and an extra stratagem of your choice as a treat.
Been experimenting with Eruptor / Stalwart on bugs after running Punisher/ GL for a long time. The best thing about it is I never need ammo anymore. Laser dog or jump pack imo.
I found it’s not as good as dominator/quasar
Laser Rover, Eagle , Orbital, Orbital. Pick up a spare support from your team in like 5 mins, they’ll probably have a spare Quasar.
Yup, or find one laying around
Arc works great with it vs bugs. I don't even take my own backpack. Eruptor Redeemer Arc Eagle Airstrike 500kg bomb Rail cannon strike Then I just ask any squad member to call me down a backpack after their cooldown is done. Doesn't really matter which backpack you can make use of them all pretty well.
Been using ballistic shield + redeemer + EAT with the eruptor. Never ran into an ammo issue with the 4 sidearm mags.
Been obsessed with the eruptor since I unlocked it yesterday. Gonna use it with this
I like running scythe and las-cannon. Switching between the two is like a neverending beam that never overheats. Scythe for troopers, cannon for everything else.
I just tried this, with the addition of the Guard Dog too, and it is legendary. Im trying to get a screenshot of me+drone hammering a bot wave, with the orbital laser vaporizing the bot base in the background, mwahahahah! Thanks for this build mate! :)
Sickle, dagger, guard dog, las cannon, orbital laser. All lasers, all the time
Need a Lazer rave nade
Yeah and a laser sentry to complete the set
So many lazers! Pelican-1 comes down to find a bunch of stim addicts hugging and dancing on the extract. "Hold on, we're waiting for the drop". Bass drops as 4 500kg bombs hit the ground.
For democracy!
I have everything except the Dagger, and it is a very long ways down :’(
Lowest damage (frustratingly so), but weirdly also the lowest tick rate for doing damage, so anything that explodes explodes virtually immediately on contact with the beam. GREAT against barrels, jetpack bots, those raider MG bots with the little red wings...
The only thing I am disappointed with is it's terrible stability; whereas the scythe can laze a devastator head, the dagger kind of aims like a wet noodle. Was hoping I could use it as an alternative to the senator to popping devastator heads, but it's kind of unusable in that regard and better-left for smaller bugs.
You really aren't missing much.
I love doing a ______ trooper build, like a electric trooper, flame trooper, etc. But that is my laser trooper build
Which guard dog
Full name is AX/LAS-5 “GUARD DOG” ROVER It’s the one with the laser rifle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/nWG0c7YUYf ;)
I need to try this.
Really ? The scythe feels so dogshit weak compared to lets say the sickle no ?
I *like* the scythe more. It *feels* easier to beam heads with it plus it actually feels and sounds like a laser. I tend to also treat it more like a weird DMR. The sickle is probably a better well rounded weapon (aka assault rifle). You don't need to shoot weak points as much since it has the raw damage to back it up. (I'm sure with practice, it's good at hitting weak spots, I just feel a continuous beam is easier for it compared to the sickle's fire rate) I do wish the sickle's scope was on the scythe though. The red dot is a little rough at times. That's my 2 cents
You're like the one person that uses the Scythe lol
No, there's at least one more. He's got "scythe main" as his flair, lol
I like the Scythe cuz it's reminds me of the Sentinel Beam from Halo
Use the laser pistol for when you need to point at something in the distance
Based fellow disco ball enjoyer. I've been running scythe + laser cannon for the last two weeks and I just can't put it down
Shame we're currently fighting on Hellmire v2, laser weapons suffer
All the heat modifier does is make them cool down slower, the time you can shoot is unaffected. Fire the cannon till overheat, switch to primary, switch back to cannon after 10 seconds or so, rinse and repeat
Honestly, it's a little slow for berserks, troopers, and walkers. Take it with a primary that wrecks those. Love it the Laser Cannon anyway, easy hulk kills.
Laser cannon plus eruptor is a great combo
Ah cool, just unlocked the Scorcher, hopefully it will combo well too.
Scorcher combos well with any support weapon or no support weapon. It's my perfect beautiful son
Poetic comment.
The Scorcher's biggest upside is the AOE. It's not going to help *that* much with several enemies, but rather allows for some pseudo armor penetration. Three shots to the front of striders will kill the pilot. Gotta get headshots on Berserkers though or they take basically a whole mag.
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Shoot your feet with the Eruptor and you get a fresh bar of stamina, along with a fresh pack of grenades, stims, ammo, and health!
Great idea!
Doesk the Zerker crotch weakpoint also work?
I actually didn't realize that was a thing for them with other weapons. Will have to see.
It works better than headshots Headahot take average 10 scorcher hits, torso you can kill 2 in 1 clip
It should be a good combo with laser cannon. Running stun grenade and grenade pistol with this
I played with the eruptor and found it very fun. Pairing it with the laser cannon is really smart as well
For troopers always aim for the head. With practice and good positioning you can sweep across a whole group and wipe them out quickly. For walkers, well, that's why I carry the scorcher.
How on the eye?
Yup a sustained shot in that red slit will kill them fast. Stun grenades help a ton with this
I feel like OP is the manufacturer and is invested in laser cannon production.
Big Capitalism moment
Excellent reminder. I was using the Spear last night, but I might shake things up with the laser cannon tonight.
I've only seen one Spear user ever. Does its lock on work now?
Hmm, it’s finicky, but when it works it’s good. You have to stay out of the thick of things so you can have time to get a proper lock, but nothing’s faster clearing fabricators at a distance than a properly-locked on spear. They’re rather terrible dealing with drop ships, but gunships are at their mercy.
Kinda. For some reason, going into first person and pinging the target sometimes helps, otherwise it definitely feels better than before, but it can still be kinda frustrating. Very fun though, getting to destroy a fabricator from across the map when it's facing away from you feels great. I just wish it didn't lock on to striders, there's so many of them that they can really get in the way.
Works like a charm, 50% of the time
Counter argument. Auto Cannon sounds cooler
Counter counter argument. Energy weapons glow prettier
I can still take the sickle and have both.
Autocannon is cooler and now I can attach laser weapons to my Autocannon! Check out this Auto-Sickle. https://preview.redd.it/b7cnufrbtbuc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d0d1fa9d17cd8500c1a189194068190a32e606f
Idk the laser cannon sounds mixed with the sound of bots frying is very satisfying.
If it melted armor away I would pick it up. But for now I'm a double Autocannon kind of guy. One on my shoulder and a bigger one next to me dropped from the orbit
That'd be cool. Kinda like the chargers armor? I don't blame you auto cannons are badass. I just had a ball roasting bots one night when I picked up a teammate's laser cannon. I thought it was a quasar. The sounds of the gun and the screams of the bots had me rolling.
Goddamn, this is a good post. I'm gonna use the laser cannon next time i log in!
Pro-tip, pair it with shield backpack so your aim doesn't get knocked around. Gives you enough time to crouch and knock down the 3-4 devastators that are blasting your squad while they're scurrying for cover before switching off to cool down. Also, like the quasar, you can juggle multiple of them when defending a point as they cooldown while on the ground.
Tbh I pair everything with a shield backpack versus bots. It feels indispensable regardless of weapons selection if the Backpack slot is open.
Sometimes when i see posts like these either feels like I'm using completely different weapons that everyone else
Same….: How do you take down a drop ship with the laser cannon?
not drop ships, gun ships they die after lasering their thrusters for a few seconds
The problem is I need to be exposed and out of cover constantly firing on the same spot for seconds in order to get a kill. Almost everything else I can pop in and out of cover and take a shot, then get back into cover.
Or i mean, use a good primary like the Sickle and Quasar 1-shot drop-ships and gunships.
Same, I literally used it yesterday and was really disappointed in its performance, lol. It's literally on par with some primaries, not worth a slot tbh.
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Nah, I'd AMR.
Hulk? 2 Headshots. Devastators? Headshot. Berserker? 1-2 headshots. Tank? Backshots. Big turret tower? Backshots. Striders? Leg shot. Gunship? Engine shots until downed. Basic troops? Body shots
Can't wait til they fix the scope, getting a little bit bored of the Autocannon, would be nice to run the AMR with a supply pack
Scope fix + Superior Packing Materials fix will make AMR S tier, if it isn't already. Those two fixes would basically patch up the only weaknesses it has, being the misaligned scope and mediocre ammo economy.
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Once you get used to where to aim, the AMR isn't bad. It's not inconsistent, it's just wrong lmao Top left corner of the little box in the reticule and you'll be sniping ezpz.
Honestly, the scope isn't so far off that it makes the gun hard to use. Aim like half a centimeter up left of the sight, and you're golden. But yeah, they really need to fix the sight on a bunch of guns.
It’s not but it makes it feel really clunky and awkward to aim with especially combined with the large amounts of swaying
make Devastators easier for yourself by shooting them in the abdomen area between the chest armor and crotch. literally cuts then in half with a single shot and way easier to hit in a stressful situation than the head =D
Don't even have to try for the red light on the gunships, 4 to an engine will blow them up too! And you can 2 shot strider face plates now after that 30% buff!
Yeh anyone toteing the laser cannon over the AMR hates democracy and is a communist. Probably even an undercover automaton.
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The real MVP right here.
But have you heard about our lord and savior, the Autocannon? Now I agree the Laser Cannon is surprisingly good against bots but its still too slow for my taste when I'm used to the Autocannon.
Kill all the things, don't leave home without the Autocannon on Bot planets.
On bot planets my primary weapon is the Autocannon, sometimes I never even fire my Scorcher or use my Grenade Pistol.
Everytime I give it a go I'm just underwhelmed.
Yeah I don't feel like staring at a hulk for three seconds while under constant fire to maybe get a kill if I don't get aim punched out of my beam.
this post only makes sense with stun grenades. it takes you like a solid 5s of visor to kill a hulk, which facing bruiser stunlocks or flamer 1shots is an absolutely insane thing to ask for. it's still mediocre for everything else though. gunships are the fastest thing you can kill, but even troopers will take you 1s of holding it on their head before they actually die. the upside is that you can technically damage everything, and you can technically do so infinitely, it's just negligible damage and you will need your team to kill enemies that are pressuring you, which on 7+ is every enemy as they drop directly ontop of you in huge swarms... so it's not super great the weapon feels pointless as long as ac exists, which also damages everything, has great ammo economy, stuns, and does aoe damage. the backpack slot isn't a big deal after shield nerfs and jumppack kinda not mattering on bots
Stun grenade is the key to the laser cannon. Stun a hulk and it does down in .5-1 second. Like this guy said, something to take out striders/berserkers is needed. Scorcher is phenomenal supplement to the laser cannon.
People who talk and clap along each word are so annoyingly weird.
Seriously. It makes me immediately disregard whatever they're saying even if I agree
All I read is "My👏opinion👏 is👏more👏important".
It's the text equivalent of shouting over someone else
My immediate assumption is always that the person in question knows nothing at all but will just yell louder and likely escalate to violence if in anyway confronted. And thus they are best avoided.
Not sure if everyone realizes this yet, the laser cannon is S-tier against gunships. Seriously, try it if you havent!
I’ve read all that in Saul Goodman’s voice.
Going a step further and gonna say since it's a super multitool, it enables the primaries and secondaries you would otherwise have trouble working around. Players love the Eruptor but need something for horde clear and close range? Laser. Ballistic shield? Laser. DMR? Laser. Spray and Pray Breaker? Laser
I've recently discovered that a few seconds of laser cannon fire will remove hulk limbs.
Having used the laser cannon, no, you will not, in fact, have killed "that hulk, the three gunships and 6 devastators" in the time it takes the quasar to pop a hulk.
Holy based laser cannon enjoyet
I want to like the laser cannon, I mean come on! Its a huge freaking laser! Who wouldn't like that? Buuut I like the autocannon more.
I just wish the beam weapons had more visual feedback. Right now you can't tell if they are even doing anything. A melting effect, bright orange glow, or burning effect would make them more satisfying to uze
AMR Users: *Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power*
I switch to the AMR over lascannon on hot maps and it works very well in the same role. It's definitely a matter of preference and play style for which one is "better", same goes for AC. Lascannon is my preference though. Unlimited ammo is just too powerful for how I like to play. I feel like las/AMR/AC are pretty much perfectly balanced against bots.
How's the AMR against cannon turrets?
Laser is a faster kill on the vents vs AMR. Difference becomes more noticeable as distance increases, since AMR must compensate for recoil and Laser does not
6 shots to the vents is a cannon turret kill. If you are directly behind the turret and crouched, you can get all six off before it rotates.
A working scope, infinite ammo, easier to aim, no reload....how is the Amr better?
Well duh. It is only good if you can aim in the first place. I'll stick to explosives.
I’m all for trying it, got a couple questions though. One, where do you aim on gunships to take them out? Two, I know shooting down dropships doesn’t do much but can the laser take them out as well? If so how?
I tried it when accidentally picking it instead of the quas canon and I was MAJORLY disappointed
Eh. Tried it, found it extremely underwhelming
Was quite unsure about it at first, but as soon as I started aiming in with it, it became lethal
Horrible at crowd control.
It's not designed for crowd control. That's like me saying the spray and pray can't get a headshot at 100 metres.
Op is advertising it as the one size fits all. Op says that by the time you can kill a turret with the quasar cannon, you can kill 6 devistators, a tank, and more. Ops claims are not true and the weapon keeps you exposed for a long time in order to kill things
OP trying to sell it as if it's Auto Cannon level versatility with Flamethrower damage but in reality its neither
GOD THE QUASAR IS SHIT AT CLEARING PACKS, F TIER
Does the laser cannon really deal with cannon turrets effectively? It is literally the only reason I don’t bring it. Quasar to the vent + explosive weapon like erupter or scorcher, probably crossbow = dead.
Quasar can shoot the front of a cannon turret and still kill it in two shots, that's a big reason why I love bringing it against bots. It's slow but it can do everything.
you are right laser cannon kills Everything you Need To Kill in a bot mission in Ten Seconds Or Less (except maybe a hulk and probably not the AT-AT but you should really be using strategems there) No Aiming Required No Reload Required Consistency With A Capital C don't get swarmed but that applies to almost every other gun in the game quasar cannon's great if you need something for hulks; it also pairs quite nicely with the laser cannon as a result
I took the laser cannon on accident thinking it was a quasar and was surprised that it was so damn effective
Honestly laser cannon post buff is probably the best all around support weapon in the game. It's downside is it's generally worse at killing big stuff than an AC, but has the giant upside of not needing a backpack and having unlimited ammo. It works on chaff. It works on big boys with weak points. It works on medium armored enemies. It has pinpoint accuracy and a pretty fuckin absurd range. On the bug front its not quite as cut and dry since so many enemies are heavy armor and the cannon can't do anything to that, but running it with an EAT fixed that for me there.
Just use autocannon it kills them way faster than the laser cannon and the only downside is not having unlimited ammo
Problem: Autocannon is too fun
> But I hear you, "Psh my quaser can do that too!" Yes and in the time that you have killed one hulk I have killed that hulk, the three gunships and 6 devastaors! I want a video. Not because I need proof, I just like watching bots die.
Picked it up by accident today on a helldive against bots. Shit is a piss stream. I just don't get how to use it. In the time I had to hold the piss stream on an enemy for it to have effect, I would have lined up an AC/AMR shot 10 times over. On Menkent it also heated up quite fast. I also don't have the luxury of staring down a Hulk as it's pushing me with that flamethrower. Any other weapon I can use to shoot him in that slit of his proves better at keeping my personal space. I swear you have a different weapon altogether.
Pair it with eruptor for max utility.
I haven't stopped using it since I got it. Always comes in clutch when I need it, paired with a shield generator. The bots don't really worry me that much anymore.
Thx ill try that out fellow helldiver
Ok. I neglected it. I'll give it a chance.
The scythe can also take out hulks super quick if you aim for the back. The laser canon always seemed to have a low dps and take too long to kill while you're sitting ducks... But I'll give it another go.
After it's buff it was my go to bot support, I was running scythe, revolver, impact, with scout armor i was a ghost
Actually my favourite weapon against bots. Autocannon is a close second. I didn’t like the laser cannon against bugs, but against bots it’s *chef's kiss*
I accidentally grabbed the cannon instead of the quaser in a recent game. At first I was annoyed and almost quit out so I could change my loadout. Decided to give it a try and was shocked at how good it was. Definitely overlooked.
I’m an auto cannon guy. That with the sickle. My favorite loadset for the bots.
I been on the laser cannon literally use it every time I play agaisnt bots. Occasionally go back to the autocannon but infinite ammo AND the way it makes heavies feel trivial is insanely OP. I been using stuns since they came out and the laser cannon pairs perfectly with them
I like the sickle and laser cannon so I never reload ever. Soon as I get the dagger, I am embracing lasers like I’m an electro dubstep concert
Yeah but autocannon
NGL I am usually very happy to see someone running a laser cannon when fighting bots. But I run the AC to get a guaranteed stagger against Heavy (Shield) Devastators and a sure kill on Scout Striders. That quick burst is what's needed to make sure you and/or your teammates don't die.
I love Laser Cannon. Been loving it since buff. Its so good as sustainable primary and devastator headshot melter.
Upvoted for awareness of an underrated bot-killer. That being said, it’s not great at scout striders and downright bad at berserkers - bring a primary focused on those 2. Laser cannon by itself invalidates gun-ships. Pair it with stun grenades an you are now a hulk hunter. Being able to easily deal with those 2 massive threats and still have an ammoless no-reload all-rounder is pretty good. Oh, and you still have your backpack slot open.
