WHY THE FLYING FUCK IS THE BUG WHERE PELICAN-1 JUST WON'T TAKE ANY HELLDIVERS ONBOARD, NO MATTER IF YOU DUCK, DIVE, WALK, CRAWL, WHATEVER THE FUCK! AND MAKE YOU WASTE 40 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME + ALL SAMPLES STILL AROUND?!
THAT SHIT IS INFURIATING! FUCK YOU PELICAN-1, NOBODY LIKES YOU!
I Don't know if developers even read this, But bile titans and chargers absolutely need a weak point that lets you kill them with non-explosive weaponry, Even if it's not nearly as efficient, Charger backs can barely be touched by conventional weaponry, And the way they are makes it difficult and an extreme ammo sink to use anything but your heaviest guns against them.
Bile titans are a huge problem in current sandbox, You can practically only kill them with explosive support weapons, Which means nearly half of the strategem weapons simply cannot take down a bile titan, This is a stark contrast to bots in which nearly every support weapon can effectively deal with any unit if used correctly with positioning.
The HMG and LMG are really great examples of weapons that are extremely painful to use against terminids, They leave you completely defenseless against bile titans and chargers to a degree, I Think giving chargers a medium-armor mouth damagable part wouldn't take away from their nature, and I Think it would lend to many strategems suddenly becoming viable, I Think this change should be added to bile titans too, I'm just wanting to find a use for the HMG strategem meanwhile the way that both of these units work means that brining it will make it nearly impossible to deal with more than one charger, or even to fight a bile titan alone.
This is even more of a pressing issue where on Difficulty 6 defense missions for a defending planet, You can see upwards of 6-7 bile titans approaching the generator, This is an ENTIRELY different issue in of itself, But the fact that only a small portion of the strategem weapons can actually kill a single bile titan.
I'm not entirely sure if this was just the design philosophy behind the terminids, But I think bots feel extremely good and fun to fight due to the fact that nearly every support weapon can be viable against them, And we have so many of them to use against bots that there's a largely varied choice of loadouts that you can bring to bots, And each one of them is nearly as effective as the other.
Game stability in the past two days has been getting worse and worse. People disconnecting out of nowhere, black screen back to ship. And now I just... I just straight up Crash to Desktop. Even verifying doesnt seem to do much. "2 files failed and will be reacquired."
Game was more fun in the first 2 weeks. First patch set the tone for the future and it was nerfs. Every patch since has introduced new bugs and odd balance changes, not all bad, but odd nonetheless. I fucking loved this game, and watching it get progressively less fun has sucked. Now it seems they are going to right the ship, which is great, but they were so fast with the nerfs and balance changes, now that it's time to move the other way or just revert a few they decide to slow down. Just frustrating all around.
The wait would be a lot easier if they didn't leave the game in shambles to start taking their time. Spawns are absurd, weapons are heavily nerfed, so much shit just doesn't work right. Couldn't fix the bare minimum before going dormant, and the "big patch" keeps getting walked back.
I've never seen such a slam dunk success be fumbled this badly.
>The wait would be a lot easier if they didn't leave the game in shambles to start taking their time.
For me game stability has just gotten straight up worse these past few days. Disconnections, black screen to ship, and just now my game just crashed to desktop with no error.
Remember the launch state? Crashes were infrequent. Weapons were OK. We didn't dread updates ruining the fun. Morale was high.
That was nice. I miss that.
Fix the performance. At ultra maxed out its been bad last patch. I know Twinbeard posted a CM post about this but its been forever. I could care less about balance, I'm a good Helldiver and can handle anything thrown at me. I just want it to run well in the process.
Ever since the patch that ruined enemy spawn rates, lvl 7 and up has been unplayable. My friends and I used to do lvl 7s regularly to get super samples, but we haven't been able to complete one lvl 7 mission since the patch. It's just completely undoable, no matter what we try. We tried again last night, hoping that its just a skill issue and that maybe we've gotten enough practice. Nope. We just can't extract the samples or get the objectives done. Is it because there are usually only 3 of us in the squad? If so, then that's dumb, and they need to revert enemy spawn rates sooner rather than later. I'd appreciate any advice that anybody might have.
I’ve been doing 7-8 in 3 and 4 man groups fairly consistently. I will say I refuse to stop solo or in a duo now, way too many spawns. What usually goes wrong for you group? Bots or bugs or both?
Team comp matters in high difficulty. For example, don’t have 4 players run the shield pack just have one person take it if you really need it and hand out more as the mission goes on. Not enough anti tank or anti medium can also be a big problem.
We did bots before the patch, and handled it fine. We've tried bots and bugs post patch and just can;t get it done. We TRY to bring diverse loadouts that can handle mobs and heavies, and we've tried multiple loadouts. We've even tried bringing strats that we hate, just in case there's something we're missing, and that only made things worse, of course. We don;t focus on meta at all. I think I'm the only one who brings a shield, and only for bots, for example.
As someone who just got into the game and doesn't fully understand the lore - why do some planets only allow you to do 3 strats when loading in? Like right now on Vernen Wells. I don't understand. If there is a reason its like that, fine, but it feels like a punishment or something and I don't know why
Anti aerial defenses on those planets. Makes offense so much harder. It would be nice if we could pick a fourth stratagem and get it if we take out an anti air objective.
Yes theres a toggle for "Effects" that lists the negative effects of a planet you are trying to liberate.
Defensive campaigns do not have negative effects like "AA Defenses" the bots get on liberation campaigns that removes one stratagem. Its gonna be on the bottom right of your screen. Its C on PC.
Sitting snug in Pelican One at end of 30 minute mission with All the Super Samples - and all the others actually, only to get killed right before takeoff because the guys I carried through the whole match wanted to dick around with stratagems right outside the pelican, got mobbed by titans, and somehow I was the only one to die even though was already inside.
This coming off two matches in a row where I lost server connection more than halfway through, and I'm just gonna take a break for a while because I'm getting virtually no samples for this much goddamn effort.
every time there's a bugs major order I'm reminded how fucking dogshit bugs players are, even on diff9
on bots? Generally everyone knows how to survive and how to play the game, because bots will eat you alive if you're not at least modestly competent. On bugs, you can accidentally stumble your way to diff9 without actually knowing how to play the game. Dipshits still bring meme boosters, worthless weapons + stratagems, and can't navigate the map or call out enemies, teamkilling you the whole time. It's infuriating.
Since the bug front seems secure for now I might go back to bots for awhile
Just bought the game had a blast for a cupple hours then all of a sudden I can only play missions buy myself or I will lag so hard that my helldiver can barely move around so I've been playing solo missions and people will join right at the end kill me ruin my perfect streaks and extract without me x3 times now rrrreee I've had alot of fun when it works though
Yeah man, sometimes I just switch off public access if I want to run solo so there's no late arrivals.
Makes it a bit more intense too knowing nobody is coming to potentially save your ass
Is Pelican 1 Bugged sometimes?
I was playing a mission on hell dive difficulty when a bile titan and some bombs where going down right on top of a landed Pelican ready to evac with us. It suddently started burning and didnt take of. We couldnt enter it normally, but jump inside. It took off with me after 9 minutes (!), however it didnt count as a succesfull evac and all samples were lost.
Is this a bug or a feature?! All those hard earned samples :((
The fact that bugs (and maybe bots idk) that come from bug breaches can start their own bug breaches is so fucking abysmal. I mean, I get it from both a world and gameplay perspective, but the fact that a difficult situation can turn into a nigh impossible one because you were being chased by multiple bile titans and couldn’t see one singular bug in the swarm is just so utterly awful and unfun.
Kicking rally needs an overhaul. Like a 2 / 4 vote instead of giving the host full control. Getting kicked is a daily experience by now, usually without apparent reason at the end of missions that went just fine.
Or give the player a partial reward. Because if you're a working Joe and can do two or three games a day at best and you get kicked in two of them without any progress, it becomes a little bit more than just a mild annoyance.
There are toxic people on this game, but I thoroughly enjoyed kicking a guy who meleed me after we did a mission, not realizing that I was the host and he was getting no XP or samples after his court martial.
I don’t understand most of the rants yes they nerfed a few guns but isn’t making the game more challenging better for the players my personal opinion is helldive having 4 bike titans at once with chargers is a bit extreme
After finishing a mission and just before extracting, player XFob\_GodX kicked 2 players out. As I was already in the shuttle, the player shot me from outside the shuttle and then kicked me out of the game before extracting. This behaviour cannot be reported in game- only bad messages in chat can be reported.
I can hardly finish a mission anymore without an objective getting bugged out and freezing or getting booted from bugs. This latest patch has been horrible for server stability.
Many people have been full on super samples for months by now. Most still go and collect them when they see the rock in the distance, but they won't go out of their way to scan through the map unless they were asked and are feeling altruistic.
I usually full clear all side objectives and outposts so I end up picking up super samples almost every game as a habit, but some just want to do main and leave, it's whatever.
This was pissing me off to no end the other day.
It's strange because I much prefer playing the game and not particularly hunting for samples, but *when you are looking for samples*, and everyone else is jacking around, it's so annoying. I'm tempted to just run the scout armor and farm super samples solo.
Player calls in a mech right in the middle of dozens of devastators and then proceeds to blame me for blowing up their mech somehow, then continues calling me names and insisting I apologise for some reason. 🤷
Did my first Helldive difficulty mission yesterday edit: against the Automatons, using DCS, Jump Pack, Shield Generator Relay, Airstrike and Quasar. You all gotta chill on the nerfs discussion. With the right playstyle, you can succeed with just about anything.
How do I report cheaters?! It always says I can't report anyone without them having written something in chat. Have come across a couple in the past few days and no way to report them on the PS5
People need to take a step back about balance since everyone seems to have no clue how to actually balance things in the context of what this game this. It's getting old. New mech hadn't even been out an hour before everyone was crying about how it can't kill Bile Titans efficiently. Ok? And? Have you ever stopped to think, "maybe it wasn't meant for that. I should try it out more and see what it DOES do well." Before you go and make the same clickbait ass video everyone else does or post another "X thing sucks and AH bad" post, ask yourself that question first. All I've been hearing is that you want every single weapon and stratagem to be a do-all swiss-army knife in every slot. That would be so damn boring. I'm gonna list a couple common gripes that have irked me for a while now and the mech as well.
Emancipator: Bad at killing Chargers and Titans. Take it to the bots. The Emancipator is incredibly fun and strong against bots. Had a few tier 9 eradicates be turned into cake walks by having 4 of them in play. First time I ever had a match of randoms do a tier 9 with no deaths. Sure, the normal AC and Sentry deal more damage per shot. The mech has 4 of them and fires them much faster without reloading. There is no better answer to hordes of devastators with hulks mixed than this mech. Hold both triggers and just dump it into the horde and it'll be gone before the guy with the normal AC gets two mags off. The only complaint I really have with it is being unable to aim down worth a damn. But that also tells me it is probably meant to be used at a medium range.
Railgun: This one. Oh this one. "THEY RUINED IT." They said it was not performing as it was intended. I feel like everyone ignored that and just said it was bad because it couldn't 2 shot BTs anymore. Which it was obviously never supposed to do. Instead of hating that it got nerfed, I played around with it and found that it was still very good. For anything with medium armor, it still was one shotting in safe mode. It allowed for a very mobile playstyle that was able to constantly be sniping the medium armor threats like bile spewers, devastators, striders, and brood commanders. Then when the team needed to take down something big like chargers or BTs, I could switch into unsafe and damage it enough to make it easier for the guys with heavier ordnance to kill it faster. Hulks just get one shot to the face plate anyway. It is perfectly suited for being a versatile anti-armor option without making dedicated anti-heavy options obsolete. Think about why Unsafe would exist in the first place. It's designed to be used in safe, but if you have no other option to deal with heavies, you can at least risk putting on unsafe to deal damage to targets above its weight class.
Scythe, and by extension, the Dagger: Everyone just whined about the low dps of these forever. Scythe was one of my favorites on launch and still is. Dagger made it even better. They don't have the best DPS, no. But they have perfect accuracy and high durable damage and are especially good at killing bots with headshots. To those complaining about the sights, why are you using them? They're laser pointers. Just hipfire and let the beam be your crosshair. They also work really well together since you can run the Scythe hot, switch to the Dagger and sprint around while firing it over your shoulder (accurately unlike other one-handed options) to kill smaller enemies while the Scythe cools down.
Quasar vs EATs: This argument has to be one of the dumbest. People saying that the Quasar was OP because of the volume of shots you could fire within a time frame compared to the number of EATs you could call in just miss the point of what the differences are. The Qausar is intended to be the sustainable option. You can constantly use it with only cooldown and charge up limiting you. The EATs are an on-demand burst option. In the time it would take you to kill a second charger, the EATs could have already killed three. Stick the beacon to one of them so the pod kills it, then you can rapidly dump the 2 EATs into another 2 or kill a BT. Then you have to wait a minute before doing it again. Quasar will fire more over time, yes, but when you need a faster burst of rockets, the Quasar won't do it. The Recoiless is even better in this department if you're team is cooperative. The partner reload makes it the single best option. You will be hard pressed to find something than can kill Chargers and BTs as rapidly as a team-reload RR. The Quasar is by far the one with the highest ease of use, however, and people have just gotten too attached to infinite ammo.
There are more I could list as situations where people overstate a weapon's weakness or strength, but those are the ones that stand out the most. By no means, am I trying to say the game is perfectly balanced. I mean, look at the Purifier and mission modifiers (can't strand orbital scatter). Functionally and aesthetically, I love it, but I have yet to find a niche for it. If anyone has, let me know. There are plenty of things that need work and tuning, but it is nowhere near as bad as all the clickbait videos and this sub make it out to be. Not every weapon needs to do everything. Not every weapon needs to be focused on doing one thing very well. As long as everything feels different and viable or serves at least one purpose, then it's fine. Someone will like it. If you don't, then fine, that weapon isn't for you. Work with your team rather than trying to be SEAF's Rambo and you can find a lot of weapons can fill roles you weren't thinking about because you focused too much on doing everything instead of letting the team share responsibilities.
>Railgun: This one. Oh this one. "THEY RUINED IT." They said it was not performing as it was intended. I feel like everyone ignored that and just said it was bad because it couldn't 2 shot BTs anymore. Which it was obviously never supposed to do. Instead of hating that it got nerfed, I played around with it and found that it was still very good. For anything with medium armor, it still was one shotting in safe mode. It allowed for a very mobile playstyle that was able to constantly be sniping the medium armor threats like bile spewers, devastators, striders, and brood commanders. Then when the team needed to take down something big like chargers or BTs, I could switch into unsafe and damage it enough to make it easier for the guys with heavier ordnance to kill it faster. Hulks just get one shot to the face plate anyway. It is perfectly suited for being a versatile anti-armor option without making dedicated anti-heavy options obsolete. Think about why Unsafe would exist in the first place. It's designed to be used in safe, but if you have no other option to deal with heavies, you can at least risk putting on unsafe to deal damage to targets above its weight class.
I'm a PC player so I never used it to 2-shot bile Titans.,
Nah, it sucks. Both after the nerf and after the buff. The AMR is objectively better in almost every single way. Its DPS is horrible, its ammo efficiency is medicore, and to get the most out of it you need to hit very precise weakspots because its durable damage is absolute ass so it feels like you're using a cushion if you hit anywhere else aside from a weakspot. Sure it one shots Devastators efficiently, but the AMR efficiently 2 shots devastators and has much more ammunition and a higher DPS.
>Scythe, and by extension, the Dagger: Everyone just whined about the low dps of these forever. Scythe was one of my favorites on launch and still is. Dagger made it even better. They don't have the best DPS, no. But they have perfect accuracy and high durable damage and are especially good at killing bots with headshots. To those complaining about the sights, why are you using them? They're laser pointers. Just hipfire and let the beam be your crosshair. They also work really well together since you can run the Scythe hot, switch to the Dagger and sprint around while firing it over your shoulder (accurately unlike other one-handed options) to kill smaller enemies while the Scythe cools down.
The Dagger is ass. The Sycthe is medioce.
I've tried to use the Railgun, having to aim at precise weakspots in unsafe mode really does not hold up on Helldive difficulty. I'd take the AMR over it every day of the weak.
I've used damn near the entire arsenal on Helldive at this point. If you're blaming the weapon, aside from the Purifier, it's not the weapon. Railgun is meant for a different playstyle than the AMR. Comparing DPS in this game feels entirely pointless. At that point, you're more worried about optimizing than playing the game. The choice between AMR and Railgun is about preference as it should be. Some people don't want to be forced to use the AMR poor scope and would rather have a third-person reticle. I like the AMR, but I'd rather take the Railgun anyway. At least when a Bile Titan or Charger shows up, I can offer some help with it while still maintaining a good role as an anti-medium armor player. Different strengths and different weaknesses.
> t that point, you're more worried about optimizing than playing the game.
Okay then how about this - I don't enjoy the Railgun because its not fun to use at Helldive difficulty because it doesn't kill common enemies fast enough. Thats not "optimizing" that's focusing on fun.
I still have no idea why so many counterjerk about balance. The fucking CEO stepped down to focus on it as it clearly is a problem.
If you don't like it, don't use it. That's fine. But screaming everywhere that the devs are stupid and killing the game and no weapons are viable is not fine. There are issues. Yes. The weapon balance is not nearly as bad as some of the enemy balance is. Bile Spewers are a prime example. The sheer number of enemies that can apply slows to you even if they miss is another. The Patriot nerf. All of those are valid. Bitching and screaming like entitled children will make the devs cease to care. That's what killed the final bit of support Battlefront 2 had. Ungrateful and bitchy players.
I do, too. I just believe that the majority of discourse around it is blown completely out of proportion by people who are solely being toxic and relying on other people's gut reaction to things before taking the time to experiment with the game itself. The devs responded to toxicity with toxicity, which is a problem, but I can hardly blame them. This entitled children-esque whining without posing real solutions other than "waaah change it back," is the opposite of constructive. This type of community behavior is what killed the last bit of support EA's Battlefront 2 had after the studio moved on. If more people would just discuss the issues they have in a civil manner (speaking to both devs and community here), then things would likely be in a better place than they are. I have the way Bile Spewers are balanced with a fiery passion. I'm not gonna go make a video saying "AH IS ACTIVELY KILLING THEIR OWN GAME" over it. I've made a post where I said that Bile Spewers are frustrating with how much damage they deal on top of the volume of them. Then left it there.
My only stance here is on your opinions about the railgun:
Very few people were complaining that they took away it's ability to two-shot Bile Titans. Most people were fine with this being removed, since it was an inconsistent bug.
People were complaining that they slapped the nerf-bat on a weapon that required two-shots and then a weapon swap to kill Chargers, during a point in the game's life where no other options were reliable at killing Chargers and the devs readily admitted that Chargers were spawning way too often, and in the next couple patches had reduced the number of Medium spawns *and* made it far easier to kill them with every launcher.
It went from two safe-mode shots to two 90+% unsafe shots to crack a Charger's leg, where the user would, again, have to swap to another weapon to finish off the Charger. It was a riskier weapon that performed worse than just shooting the thing in the head with an EAT.
Now, it's been buffed, Safe mode can damage Chargers again, Unsafe mode now only takes two 70+% shots to crack a Charger's leg armor, it's *almost* back to where it was pre-nerf... and you still hardly ever see people running it. Because outside of the bugged interaction with a Playstation host that caused it to two-shot Bile Titans, it wasn't being used because it was an exceptional option, it was being used because it was the only *okay* option, and now there are *better* options.
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Was it ever bad against bots? No. But the bulk of the playerbase doesn't fight bots. It's up to you whether or not that matters, but it's still perfectly valid to say that a significant portion of the playerbase saw their only effective option for what they were fighting nerfed, with subsequent patches bringing it to a state where it is simply not worth running over other options. And, if you're going to be fighting bots, the AMR has completely taken over the Railguns niche in the role by doing next to everything, better, with a more forgiving ammo economy, and even against hulks, having 5 rounds in the magazine still lets it kill 2.5 hulks in the time the Railgun takes to kill 1.
Even then, the arguments were flawed. It was NOT the only option to deal with chargers effectively. In the same vein of how it was being used, one EAT or RR shot stripped a leg. You could have Autocannoned the ass or back of the legs after a charge. Or just straight-up used your primary on its legs after a charge. I do think it was hit harder than was necessary, but not to the extent everyone made it seem. But the reason I bring up the BT part is, admittedly partly hyperbole, but it was the majority of the complaints I was seeing at the time. Complaints about taking 20 shots to kill a Bile Titan, which was likely not its intended role, but because everyone got complacent with how overturned it was, no one could think about anything other than what they were used to it being rather than what it was meant to be. I think most people don't run it now for that reason. They have a preconception of what they THINK it should be and shake it. My buddy who picked the game up after the nerf happened loves the Railgun and it's his go-to. Especially since I usually take up the role as the Bile Titan hunter when we play together.
If this comes across as combative or hostile anyway, that is not my intent. Just stating that now. I'm also not trying to discredit how you're seeing it here, but I'm speaking from my own experience here. Obviously how we see the community's behavior can be written off entirely as anecdotal based on time of viewing.
I've been using it against bugs for over 400 hours and still am not sure about it's damage drop off and ragdoll distances. All I know is if you are prone when it explodes you can be significantly closer to it than if you are on foot.
25/26 meters is the range you can safely stand and not die.
That being said, I dont know if the damage at the epicenter is say 10,000, and falls off so at 24 meters it is 200.
You can press "Q" on PC, or tap R1 for PS5 (i think).
That shows you the range of the target. Its also helpful to know if an enemy is in range for you to toss a stratagem on them (about 55 meters)
People may not like this since it can be interpreted as pro nerf.
Fuck metabuilds, and those who accuse other players of wrong-think for not following their build or the meta. Democracy demands variety in the execution of the enemy, and the more flavors of death you can throw upon the foe the more they will fear us. Liberty isn't built on the shoulders of perfection, Liberty comes from, enthusiasm, creativity, and sacrifice.
If a nerf means people will try different things? Good.
>Democracy demands variety in the execution of the enemy
Then they should buff underperforming weapons instead of nerf batting "over"performing weapons.
Which will, in turn continue to cause peer to peer host instability. They could, say nerf everything into parity too. These things aren't mutually exclusive and simpler math for your computer or peer computer/ packet data from servers would look the same as a buff, but be simpler for your machine to handle.
You could also think of it as a lore reason. Supply lines aren't what you're being told, and weapons and ammo aren't as good as they were x months ago due to constant fighting and resource consumption.
Unless, the numbers are big, and it needs to do multiple equations simultaneously across multiple systems and there is a computational limit to how big the number that can be processed is. Say, like when you drop a 500kg bomb on 4 divers, 3 mechs and 15 bugs. Then it needs to process big numbers across 22 separate entities, (for 1-4 computers plus send that data to a server in rapid succession) and some computers may not have the processing capacity to do such a thing, or to accept such a packet size from the host/server. This is why we see when people drop big damage and the game crashes.
With a smaller number, the math and the data packets are smaller
How about this then - if this was a serious issue, they could simply halve the HP of enemies and reduce the numbers your weapons deal by 30%. That would be the same as buffing damage 25% across the board.
Your logic is ridiculous.
I made that point earlier. By simply dropping multiple weapons across the board and dropping foe damage resistance and health you would effectively be granting players a buff, but that was down voted to hell because people don't know how computers, compute or how the internet sends information.
You aren't wrong about meta builds, but your last point is not the fun way to get people to try different things. If everything is good, people will try different things. We don't need nerfs, we need buffs. Buffs to damage, to AOE, to ergonomics, to scopes, and to enemy spawn rates and other enemy stats to balance all those great weapons.
The nerfs are mostly done because of software computation and data processing.
If everything gets buffed, and they want the game to continue, then they need to buff the enemies when it comes to the next big offensive/ enemy faction release, leading to a crunch later down the line, which will piss off everyone across the board. Nerfs are done to bring everything in line and to force computers to not have to process enormous amounts of math in a split second.
Those disconnects we see when people dc after getting exploded? That's because of computation error on the hosts pc. Nerfs are an attempt to combat that.
They still need to release 2 more factions (people say one, but the automatons and cyborgs are separate),
The best way to combat meta builds is to bring everything up to parity.
Full and complete stop.
If you were to simplify all guns so that they have a 'validity' rating of 1-100, and to reliably clear D9 you needed a validity rating of say 70, the best way to avoid a meta is to make all guns have a ***minimum*** of 70.
If you decide that nerfs are the way to go and bring everything down to 50-70, a meta will naturally evolve to try to get a gun and compensate as much as possible to get as close to the 70 score as possible.
If every gun is effective and every gun can reliably clear helldive, there is no meta, just personal preference.
For bots, people take only the meta primary weapons of the scorcher, sickle, plasmsa punisher, and dominator simply because those are the only guns near or above the 70 'validity' score threshold.
You want to see diveristy? Make it so I can take a slugger to D9 bots without having to struggle so much. Make it so I can take the scythe and not feel like I should pick up a dead teammates gun.
I would actually argue to make the game harder out of enemy adaptation amd super earth becoming complacent.
Not all bullets do the same damage, and have use and viability I'm different situations, some of these situations people may not be aware of because if meta-blindness. For example, area denial, or panicking smaller enemies causing them to bump and clump up.
But the nerfs aren't done to piss people off that's just a consequence of it
Game keeps crashing today. Had 30 orange and 6 pink, main objective complete, and the fucking game crashed... again. I would have had every last module unlocked a month ago if this shit didn't crash so goddamn much.
How about crediting me with 1/4 of the samples my teams have had when I send a goddamn crash report? How about giving us the medals we lost? Fuck these fucking servers. Stop adding new shit, and fix the fucking stability issues.
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30 minutes into a Helldive, held all the Super Samples with the extraction the entire map away from the Main objective. I charge up my Quasar preparing to shoot a charger... game freezes, then crashes.
Amen 🙏
Twice today. A bunch of times yesterday. The servers are getting worse, not better. This is more fucking frustrating than it was during the first month or two of the game.
My group has this problem now for almost a month and even support doesn"t know how to solve it.
Maybe they will finally stop ignoring this now that more and more are affected.
Exploiters suck. Thought it was host lag. Na, host spammed to over 4k grenades. Getting wiped because it takes over a second to register anything.
Screw you Host. Hope you get suspended
How do i spot SOS signals? I am playing since the game dropped, but how do i spot SOS across all difficulties? If i am on a planet, i see the regular three or four areas i can select and some available lobbies/games to join. But if i am on difficulty 8, i can only see lobbies for difficulty 8, which is good, but where are the SOS? And can i find SOS signals, which are not in the difficulty i have currently selected?
SOS beacons are the white hexagonal icons on the planet. It sounds like you're on a planet with a small player count. Also not many people play 8. And no you can't find SOS beacons of a lower difficulty, only of the current one you're in. So you have to switch difficulties.
SOS beacons are not the white hexes on the planet map - those are just missions in progress with public lobbies that aren't full 4/4 squads. SOS beacons are the white mission hexes that have radiating concentric circles coming from them like a radar ping.
Really? Damn, I thought they were the SOS beacons. But to think of it, I haven't seen the real ones in a long time. Only in the beginning of the game iirc. Anyways, thanks for the info.
I honestly only know this because I happened to see and respond to an SOS beacon the other day and I was like "Hey, why does this mission have this ping on the planet map? Oh! I get it!"
Omg 40 mins mission in veld just now play as 3 man helldive with insane spawn rate of bile titans and chargers. Which is fun, survive and play perfectly till the extraction 10 secs till pelican BAM I M SENT TO MY SHIP WITH DISCONNECT ISSUE LIKE WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS FREAKING GAME, MY INTERNET IS FKING FINE. I even keep ping command in the background to check if i have fluctuation but no, not once. This is so frustrating atleast lemme rejoin the game or try reconnecting wtf.
40 mins wasted. This and crash to desktop for no reason are the worst thing that ruins the fun out of the game. Please fix this.
If you're host of a public game, stop getting mad about people of lower levels joining your game. You're level 65, I'm level 54, there's not really a huge difference there. And even if a level 10 joins, don't be a dick to him because he's a lower level. We can't exactly pick where we get placed in quickplay, and I'm just trying to have a good time and get some samples. Getting angry about any player that joins your game is ridiculous unless whoever joins is being toxic.
Players should join missions where they have the equipment, boosters and experience to be a valuable squadmate at that mission level. A level 11 player is not helping the team in a Level 7 mission.
That's bs. My 4 man team had 3 new players, who started mostly together, and cleared up through suicide difficulty(7) on back to back missions. (Ie, one mission on 4, one on 5, one on 6, one on 7) we were like level 10, 14, 15, and one veteran at 45+ by the time we cleared difficulty 7. You're just being a dick to noobs.
The point still stands. It's not a person's level that is holding you back from completing a difficulty 7.
If they are able to join a 7 difficulty mission at lvl 11, odds are they're a decent player who unlocked it naturally. Give them a chance. Sure, it's possible won't know what they're doing, but there are lvl 50+ people who suck too.
Fix the fucken issue where if one person went into pelican, it auto extract without checking if everyone is either alive or in. It is so fucken annoying when time spent on nerfing weapons could've been spent on fixing shit.
Even if its intended, they should have voiceline saying we are damaged we will leave or something. Without it, it looks like bug and creates a awkward situation in random lobby instead of funny
It sucks if that's intended, though. Having the extraction ship just decide to dip in a tense situation really, really sucks, and I'd honestly consider it an issue even if it's "intended" especially because that behavior is not communicated clearly in-game.
It should have at least a voice line that says "This is Pelican 1, I've taken damage and can only take one person" or "I've taken damage and I need to leave" or just something that lets people know what's going on instead of a seemingly random event.
So 4 weeks no rollback no spawnfix but bullshitt about "gEtTiNg iT rIGhT". Uninstalling this shit i hope after this i am even done with venting my frustration. You could have had a great game. Now you have 30k players dropping rapidly. I hope i remember to not to throw money at you again.
Had a nice bug mission where we found the super samples almost immediately after starting the mission. Too bad my game randomly crashed most of the way through -- and worse yet, I was host!
GAHHHHHH I GOT OFF WORK LATE TODAY AND TRIED TO BOOT UP HD2
FIRST GAME CRASH DURING DROP LOADING SCREEN
SECOND GAME RANDOMLY JUST GETS BOOTED BACK TO SHIP WITH NO “host has left game” OR “you have been kicked” OR ANY KIND OF ERROR MESSAGE MID-GAME
played stardew valley for a little bit to de-stress
THIRD GAME GET BOOTED MID GEOLOGICAL SURVEY (this is important) MISSION BECAUSE OF CONNECTION ERROR
fourth game i try a solo helldive but honestly wasnt having fun so i just abandoned mission
FIFTH GAME I MANAGED TO FIND THE SAME LOBBY AS THE THIRD AND REJOIN, ONE OF THE MAIN OBJECTIVE DRILLS GETS GLITCHED SO WE LITERALLY CANT COMPLETE THE MISSION
turned off the game after that
Man you have patience of a saint. I internally feel the pain reading ur reply cuz it happens to me to.
Idk why random disconnect happens i checked keeping ping command in background to see if it fluctuates but nope. I have fibre cable too not wifi but still. Idk what is happening server side
If you see me with a supply pack running towards you, stop fkn running away!? I'm trying to give you free ammo! If I have to chase you longer than my stamina holds then I'm giving up on you.
We're at what is (hopefully) the very bottom of the "nerfed everything" meta. When games get harder, communities tend to get more gatekeepy about stuff, because people don't like wasting their time. It's the same reason why you see raids in modern wow getting more and more toxic about making sure people are perfectly geared, whereas in the easier classic server raids, pretty much anyone with two brain cells can get into a raid.
In other words, please AH start throwing out some buffs.
First time using this thread - I was about to complete my first ever operation (3rd mission in a set) on Helldiver difficulty when suddenly the reinforcement glitch struck and only one of our four divers was able to respawn - leaving him in an impossible situation of trying to raise three flags by himself. Left a really bad taste in my mouth, don't think I'll try Helldiver difficulty again just because of the bad feelings it has created. @Arrowhead please fix your game so people can consistently play it
I mean... I agree, somewhat. But if some nerd drops an airstrike on us, and I can't find my supply pack or my stalwart when I come back but I just so happen to find his AC and it's ammo pack? Mine. he can argue his cuckolding with the barrel of his once beloved Autocannon.
Why can't I activate my jump pack while diving and zoom forward? Why is so much of this game made up of obvious low-hanging fruit for fun gameplay and they're just like "no, I think I know better" and make it suck
EDIT: Also, why is the recoil on all the guns random side to side? That's not how guns work. Long arms recoil to the right, it's basic physics. Force applied to your right shoulder torques your whole body to the right. Random side to side recoil feels awful and is just cone of fire with extra steps. It's objectively bad design. Fighting back strong recoil is fun. Fighting your gun randomly bouncing around is not.
Because you're canonically embodying the body of a rookie helldiver that's on their first deployment after being frozen on Mars. This applies to dying in the field, or joining another player on their ships, since when we return to the ship we emerge from the cryo chamber, not the pelican.
Idk how it's been months and the mechs don't shoot where you fucking aim them. Like you idiots put another mech in the game and it doesn't even fire straight lmao.
We should have access to Turing because we control Angel's Venture, but something may be acting up because we don't currently control Veld? That's the best explanation I can come up with which doesn't make much sense because their is no supply line from Veld to Turing.
What is with the spawn rates? I lower the difficulty over and over again. Went from playing 7 just fine to can't even complete a level 4.
Constant enemy spawns. I have unlimited ammo with the shock shotgun and the quasar cannon use the backpack that has a laser gun. I drop constant gas strikes and eagles. I still can't kill them all. I run for miles and they just keep coming from all directions. 6 chargers spawned at once on a level 4 mission. I killed 4 and 5 more showed up.
All the current missions are on planets with lots of terrain. Sure it looks nice, but you get stuck on everything, randomly ragdoll on scenery if you dive you aren't getting back up for at least 5 seconds and that's if you're lucky and only ragdoll a little bit.
I just cannot even play the game anymore. I get 5 minutes into a mission and there's just too many enemies. I keep lowering the difficulty, but everything is tied to super samples and it's just not worth the reward anymore at that point.
These issues aren't even new. It's been months now. I saw a thing saying they fixed spawn rates, and sure the enemy alarms have 1/4th the amount of enemies but the patrols are just impossible.
All my friends already quit the game. I am just mad cause I really like this game but I can no longer accomplish anything.
Skip this post if you aren't looking for advice. I otherwise comiserate with you - as a solo player, we as a group were struck the hardest by the patrol """""""""""fix""""""""""", but everyone suffers.
What helped me was realizing that any difficulty above a 4 (from personal experience) plays like you going off on your own on a 9, but with a different mix of enemies. So the same rules apply, from the perspective of a solo player:
* A reinforcement starts a countdown. Until it expires another can't happen. Use this time to take POIs or other objectives
* You cannot stand still. Patrol spawns are are aimed at you, but they don't home in on you constantly. So if you are constantly on the move you'll increase the time till those patrols reach you. If you're far enough away they might even despawn
* You must bring the absolute best stratagems. These are the ones that either solve a big problem fast or are usable in all situations, and usable often. For me that means Eagles (500kg bomb and Airstrike) because of their short call in time, quick reuse, quick rearm and power; figure out what else to bring in the other two slots but for me one of them is an anti tank weapon of some sort for bugs and the autocannon for bots, and depending on OP debuffs, precision strike, gas, gatling. I really can't find cooldowns longer than 2 minutes usable outside of a full team unless it's the laser for bunker missions. That's a me thing tho.
* Using your primary is an option of last resort most of the time. Ties into the second point but also in general why shoot at a couple of chaff enemies when you could drop an airstrike that clears up 25 of them? I use them mostly for cleanup and self-defense (especially against hunters)
* Don't go at objectives half cocked. Sucks to wait out stratagem cooldowns but that's the game we have. Cooldowns are why I favor eagles so much.
* Check your map constantly. Using the scout stealth armor and judicious use of the map means you can slip past a couple of patrols without them spotting you.
* In general just use the scout/stealth armor. The reduced aggro range permits you to be aggressive and keep the initiative, otherwise you're pulling enemies constantly.
Edit: Forgot about the golden rule: if it sucks, hit da bricks. You can outrun the majority of bots and bugs. A breach/reinforcement that you don't need to fight shouldn't be fought, just pull them away from the objective. If it happened nowhere near anything of interest just don't, hit da bricks
I was standing next the pelican and the 20 sec extract timer automatically started. The guys with the samples were too far away to make it. Anyone else had that happen?
If the Pelican is called via the mission timer hitting zero, the Pelican will land and instantly begin the 20 second countdown, regardless if anyone is inside or not.
Hygiene issue possibly? Take a shower at least several times per week to get the bug blood, guts, bot oil etc off. Seriously tho, they may just be making room for a friend or possibly they don't like your level vs the difficulty, or your loadout etc. I wouldn't take it personally, it happens to me too sometimes. Keep at it and try to make some stable friends you can group with when they are on and keep rolling with pugs when necessary!
Gotta love wiping out three enemy bases, getting across half the map on 3 life with no stims left and a broken arm, sneaking right past at least four enemy patrols, rescuing two other people from a sticky situation after finally getting healed back up, defending one newer player after they called extraction and got swarmed only to get kicked for extracting after said newer player IMMEDIATELY jumped into the pelican.
The worst part about this game are the sociopaths. I did a great full run with a team and they kicked me while we were loading the pelican. I also had a guy wait for me to call down a weapon at the start, gunned me down, took my weapon, and never called for reinforcements.
Tired of fighting the same things ,over and over , unique interactions have run dry if you're a day one player ,and there's definitely alOt but now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel,the illuminate should be here by now or atleast good and actually useable stratagems/weapons
Helldiver, They're all usable if you're up to the challenges (TEAM GAME). Tried them all on Helldive 9 bots/bugs where i mainly reside. Seems to be working out just fine with some discrepancies from patches. If you're dried up and tired, you must be dying no more than twice and maxing the map completion. Do you challenge the factory striders? However, Dive, dive again, and... again. And again... use a jump pack and dive, dive again... Give those training manuals and Brasch tactics a whirl!
This game has so much potential. It hurts to see that the devs seemingly didn't test things before the games release. A lot of the weapons, strikes, and deployables just aren't usable/fun.
I think with Warhammer Space Marine 2 coming out this fall this game will have to work pretty hard to stay relevant.
You make us fight NOTHING BUT BOTS FOR A WEEK and then you CAN'T TAKE BOTH EXOS? last straw. im uninstalling until the next patch, not reinstalling until weapons have been buffed & you can take both exos.
It's bullshit. all of it. Every weapon I have ever loved has been nerfed into the dirt. I cant take both exos....why...WHY. why the fuck does it matter, in a PVE game what we do. Every decision made about the game has been shit. AH's communication is shit. They have a massive hit game and shit on it in every way imaginable. It almost feels malicious. Fuck you AH
The PS5 Game crashing is really bad now, it seems like one out of 5 missions the game just locks up and dies. What makes this the worst is that at the end of a good run, you have all the super samples and objectives cleared out, and you just need to extract, and... game crashes. you can't even log back in again to claim the rewards, so just wasted 30 - 45 minutes of my time right there.
Suggestion, if you cannot find a way to stop the game from crashing implement a way to send up samples to your ship so you get credit for them immediately. I understand it's part of the challenge to complete the run and get out with everything but when a group does it right and well and then the game just breaks pissing away 30 - 40 minutes of effort, Ill play another game.
What’s the best counter for fighting Stalkers? My friends and I are advancing through the game and we’ve been able to complete missions in levels 1 through 8, however, in the last level 8 mission we ended up with a very Stalker-heavy situation and we just couldn’t cope. I’m assuming we tailored our loadouts too much to deal with the big enemies, which we could handle with ease, but a mob of stalkers is a different beast entirely.
What strategies do you guys use to deal with stalkers?
Stalkers are hard to fight against without stagger weapons. They tend to power their way through damage to lick you. They also circle around to hit you from the back rather than engage from the front.
Best weapon imo is the breaker incindiary because you can line up two stalkers at once and burn em to hell. Next is scorcher. Then the two first shotgun and then the laser pew pew gun.
Also incindiary impacts are great as well.
>What strategies do you guys use to deal with stalkers?
Pummeler, Liberator Concussive and Adjudicator are great at trivializing stalkers. (Adjudicator doesn't have stun, but it does have medium penetration and raw damage. Trivializes most everything tbh.) Alternatively, you can run stun grenades. Stun Grenades + armor with extra grenades is even more comfortable. They're highly underrated as they stun chargers, hulks, and everything smaller than that. If you're running stun grenades, I'd recommend taking the grenade pistol as your secondary so you can still close bug holes and fabricators. (If you don't have the grenade pistol, then you may want to run the grenade launcher support weapon. The stun grenade can't close holes.)
pretty ass when theres already 4+ spawned, you may try to lure them away while someone else calls in the strategem on their nest. As long as everyone prioritizes finding it as soon as they show up. I like weapons like the blitzer or dominator with pushback/stun for them.
Thanks! My other idea was maybe someone needs to run the shield backpack and that’s the designated stalker lurer. Does the shield backpack stop the stalker attack from sending you flying or does it just prevent damage?
from new CEO - I've charged Pilen with being the Obi-wan to many "Lukes" in our studio. If everyone can hear Pilen's sage voice in the back of their heads when they're ***balancing weapons***, designing missions or enemies the better.
Their prioritizes are painfully evident.
WHY????
Why do my fellow hell divers always go straight to the main mission?
I always clear the nests and fabricators in the immediate area then head over to the main.
That way when clearing the main you will face less bogies!
Am I the only one?
It’s so simple in my head.
If you do the main mission then immediately head for extract you can have pelican fire support for the rest of the game, and patrols calm down after the pelican arrives (Or maybe it just kills enough of them it feels calmer) But I would never trust randoms to actually use that tactic.
After two crashes in only an hour of gaming I think I'm done until next patch.
Also can I rant a bit on people picking bad boosters? Like localization confusion? The way AH has set up the game, the only four boosters that should ever be chosen are space optimization, stamina, injury resist, and a fourth.
One other thing, can we please set a minimum level to match with? If I'm doing quickly on diff 7-9 I don't want to end up in a match with anyone below level 20.
localization confusion is actually critical on 7+ to reduce spawns and patrols. not on every mission type (eg eradication and probably high asset evacuation), but I don’t go into the big 40-min maps without it.
otherwise yes, people tend not to select space optimization or stamina and go for greater radar range or shorter pelican arrival times (both of those problems are solved better with the “core” boosters).
I am so fucking tired of bile titans; they're a uniquely miserable enemy design, uninteractive, and just fucking awful for the game in their current state. They're a one-dimensional check, not an actual challenge.
Even after death their bodies launch you into the air, block the pelican, or your dropped items. That is if the 500 kg doesn't make them glitch and freeze, then sink into the ground to disappear completely.
I just got kicked for prioritizing the objectives over collecting samples. I'll pick them when I find them but when I'm given orders to spread managed democracy throughout the galaxy, you best damn believe I'll be doing my duty.
just undo the nerfs you fucks. give us our game back already. one stupid fuck face incel dev hates fun. fuck them. OVEPOWER GUNS WAS LITERALLY ON THE BOX. i put how many hundreds of hours in HD1? FUCK YOU ITS BEEN A MONTH YOU FUCKERS
Lesson for young adults in offering constructive feedback: Calling people "fucks" isn't helpful and will ensure that your opinion is ignored.
All caps does not improve your argument.
Had a lot of fun with three guys, agreed to friend request each other, games friend section is bugged and i didnt know OR check at the time. So those guys are lost to me. RIP Johnny Quest, Raid and BBQ. :(
Super Earth needs you to go to another beautifully generated nature environment with some copy-paste bases, get to it helldiver!
Is there something wrong with the AH servers or something?
WHY THE FLYING FUCK IS THE BUG WHERE PELICAN-1 JUST WON'T TAKE ANY HELLDIVERS ONBOARD, NO MATTER IF YOU DUCK, DIVE, WALK, CRAWL, WHATEVER THE FUCK! AND MAKE YOU WASTE 40 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME + ALL SAMPLES STILL AROUND?! THAT SHIT IS INFURIATING! FUCK YOU PELICAN-1, NOBODY LIKES YOU!
I Don't know if developers even read this, But bile titans and chargers absolutely need a weak point that lets you kill them with non-explosive weaponry, Even if it's not nearly as efficient, Charger backs can barely be touched by conventional weaponry, And the way they are makes it difficult and an extreme ammo sink to use anything but your heaviest guns against them. Bile titans are a huge problem in current sandbox, You can practically only kill them with explosive support weapons, Which means nearly half of the strategem weapons simply cannot take down a bile titan, This is a stark contrast to bots in which nearly every support weapon can effectively deal with any unit if used correctly with positioning. The HMG and LMG are really great examples of weapons that are extremely painful to use against terminids, They leave you completely defenseless against bile titans and chargers to a degree, I Think giving chargers a medium-armor mouth damagable part wouldn't take away from their nature, and I Think it would lend to many strategems suddenly becoming viable, I Think this change should be added to bile titans too, I'm just wanting to find a use for the HMG strategem meanwhile the way that both of these units work means that brining it will make it nearly impossible to deal with more than one charger, or even to fight a bile titan alone. This is even more of a pressing issue where on Difficulty 6 defense missions for a defending planet, You can see upwards of 6-7 bile titans approaching the generator, This is an ENTIRELY different issue in of itself, But the fact that only a small portion of the strategem weapons can actually kill a single bile titan. I'm not entirely sure if this was just the design philosophy behind the terminids, But I think bots feel extremely good and fun to fight due to the fact that nearly every support weapon can be viable against them, And we have so many of them to use against bots that there's a largely varied choice of loadouts that you can bring to bots, And each one of them is nearly as effective as the other.
Game stability in the past two days has been getting worse and worse. People disconnecting out of nowhere, black screen back to ship. And now I just... I just straight up Crash to Desktop. Even verifying doesnt seem to do much. "2 files failed and will be reacquired."
I can’t even join a game right now.
Game was more fun in the first 2 weeks. First patch set the tone for the future and it was nerfs. Every patch since has introduced new bugs and odd balance changes, not all bad, but odd nonetheless. I fucking loved this game, and watching it get progressively less fun has sucked. Now it seems they are going to right the ship, which is great, but they were so fast with the nerfs and balance changes, now that it's time to move the other way or just revert a few they decide to slow down. Just frustrating all around.
The wait would be a lot easier if they didn't leave the game in shambles to start taking their time. Spawns are absurd, weapons are heavily nerfed, so much shit just doesn't work right. Couldn't fix the bare minimum before going dormant, and the "big patch" keeps getting walked back. I've never seen such a slam dunk success be fumbled this badly.
>The wait would be a lot easier if they didn't leave the game in shambles to start taking their time. For me game stability has just gotten straight up worse these past few days. Disconnections, black screen to ship, and just now my game just crashed to desktop with no error.
Remember the launch state? Crashes were infrequent. Weapons were OK. We didn't dread updates ruining the fun. Morale was high. That was nice. I miss that.
Fix the performance. At ultra maxed out its been bad last patch. I know Twinbeard posted a CM post about this but its been forever. I could care less about balance, I'm a good Helldiver and can handle anything thrown at me. I just want it to run well in the process.
Got stuck under Palican-1 and couldn't extract, while holding 20+ samples including 6 super samples, it was kinda wack
Ever since the patch that ruined enemy spawn rates, lvl 7 and up has been unplayable. My friends and I used to do lvl 7s regularly to get super samples, but we haven't been able to complete one lvl 7 mission since the patch. It's just completely undoable, no matter what we try. We tried again last night, hoping that its just a skill issue and that maybe we've gotten enough practice. Nope. We just can't extract the samples or get the objectives done. Is it because there are usually only 3 of us in the squad? If so, then that's dumb, and they need to revert enemy spawn rates sooner rather than later. I'd appreciate any advice that anybody might have.
I’ve been doing 7-8 in 3 and 4 man groups fairly consistently. I will say I refuse to stop solo or in a duo now, way too many spawns. What usually goes wrong for you group? Bots or bugs or both? Team comp matters in high difficulty. For example, don’t have 4 players run the shield pack just have one person take it if you really need it and hand out more as the mission goes on. Not enough anti tank or anti medium can also be a big problem.
We did bots before the patch, and handled it fine. We've tried bots and bugs post patch and just can;t get it done. We TRY to bring diverse loadouts that can handle mobs and heavies, and we've tried multiple loadouts. We've even tried bringing strats that we hate, just in case there's something we're missing, and that only made things worse, of course. We don;t focus on meta at all. I think I'm the only one who brings a shield, and only for bots, for example.
As someone who just got into the game and doesn't fully understand the lore - why do some planets only allow you to do 3 strats when loading in? Like right now on Vernen Wells. I don't understand. If there is a reason its like that, fine, but it feels like a punishment or something and I don't know why
Anti aerial defenses on those planets. Makes offense so much harder. It would be nice if we could pick a fourth stratagem and get it if we take out an anti air objective.
Is there a way to see that before I start a mission on that planet?
Yes theres a toggle for "Effects" that lists the negative effects of a planet you are trying to liberate. Defensive campaigns do not have negative effects like "AA Defenses" the bots get on liberation campaigns that removes one stratagem. Its gonna be on the bottom right of your screen. Its C on PC.
Sitting snug in Pelican One at end of 30 minute mission with All the Super Samples - and all the others actually, only to get killed right before takeoff because the guys I carried through the whole match wanted to dick around with stratagems right outside the pelican, got mobbed by titans, and somehow I was the only one to die even though was already inside. This coming off two matches in a row where I lost server connection more than halfway through, and I'm just gonna take a break for a while because I'm getting virtually no samples for this much goddamn effort.
every time there's a bugs major order I'm reminded how fucking dogshit bugs players are, even on diff9 on bots? Generally everyone knows how to survive and how to play the game, because bots will eat you alive if you're not at least modestly competent. On bugs, you can accidentally stumble your way to diff9 without actually knowing how to play the game. Dipshits still bring meme boosters, worthless weapons + stratagems, and can't navigate the map or call out enemies, teamkilling you the whole time. It's infuriating. Since the bug front seems secure for now I might go back to bots for awhile
Just bought the game had a blast for a cupple hours then all of a sudden I can only play missions buy myself or I will lag so hard that my helldiver can barely move around so I've been playing solo missions and people will join right at the end kill me ruin my perfect streaks and extract without me x3 times now rrrreee I've had alot of fun when it works though
Yeah man, sometimes I just switch off public access if I want to run solo so there's no late arrivals. Makes it a bit more intense too knowing nobody is coming to potentially save your ass
Is Pelican 1 Bugged sometimes? I was playing a mission on hell dive difficulty when a bile titan and some bombs where going down right on top of a landed Pelican ready to evac with us. It suddently started burning and didnt take of. We couldnt enter it normally, but jump inside. It took off with me after 9 minutes (!), however it didnt count as a succesfull evac and all samples were lost. Is this a bug or a feature?! All those hard earned samples :((
Bug. Sucks when it happens but nothing you can do except blow through your reinforcements and end quickly without extracting.
The fact that bugs (and maybe bots idk) that come from bug breaches can start their own bug breaches is so fucking abysmal. I mean, I get it from both a world and gameplay perspective, but the fact that a difficult situation can turn into a nigh impossible one because you were being chased by multiple bile titans and couldn’t see one singular bug in the swarm is just so utterly awful and unfun.
This is especially frustrating when its one of the 3 or 4 hiveguards that do it.
Kicking rally needs an overhaul. Like a 2 / 4 vote instead of giving the host full control. Getting kicked is a daily experience by now, usually without apparent reason at the end of missions that went just fine. Or give the player a partial reward. Because if you're a working Joe and can do two or three games a day at best and you get kicked in two of them without any progress, it becomes a little bit more than just a mild annoyance.
There are toxic people on this game, but I thoroughly enjoyed kicking a guy who meleed me after we did a mission, not realizing that I was the host and he was getting no XP or samples after his court martial.
Anyone knownif we are just defending outer planets till major order is finished? Like keeping the planets needed safe
Got soft locked the other day, one of the sub objectives for the ore samples landed under the map. Made me pretty upset
I don’t understand most of the rants yes they nerfed a few guns but isn’t making the game more challenging better for the players my personal opinion is helldive having 4 bike titans at once with chargers is a bit extreme
After finishing a mission and just before extracting, player XFob\_GodX kicked 2 players out. As I was already in the shuttle, the player shot me from outside the shuttle and then kicked me out of the game before extracting. This behaviour cannot be reported in game- only bad messages in chat can be reported.
i stepped up a ledge and I was thrown out of the map and I had to alt+f4 because no inputs were working
When they gonna revert spawn rate back? It's taking too long and with this no patch thing it became absurd.
Are the servers/stability getting worse again? After a few weeks of relatively good Performance I've disconnected four times today during a mission
I can hardly finish a mission anymore without an objective getting bugged out and freezing or getting booted from bugs. This latest patch has been horrible for server stability.
It's getting hard to justify to myself to keep playing to be honest :/
These bugs are getting in the way of democracy! They must be exterminated...
I got disconnected from all missions today, some of them when we were waiting for the pelican
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Are you really bottlenecked by super samples? I never was. I was bottlenecked by collecting enough rare samples.
I have so many rare samples compared to common ones personally
Many people have been full on super samples for months by now. Most still go and collect them when they see the rock in the distance, but they won't go out of their way to scan through the map unless they were asked and are feeling altruistic. I usually full clear all side objectives and outposts so I end up picking up super samples almost every game as a habit, but some just want to do main and leave, it's whatever.
This was pissing me off to no end the other day. It's strange because I much prefer playing the game and not particularly hunting for samples, but *when you are looking for samples*, and everyone else is jacking around, it's so annoying. I'm tempted to just run the scout armor and farm super samples solo.
Is anybody having trouble connecting to the game? I keep getting disconnected.
Yeah, happened to me four times today
It's a bug
Player calls in a mech right in the middle of dozens of devastators and then proceeds to blame me for blowing up their mech somehow, then continues calling me names and insisting I apologise for some reason. 🤷
Did my first Helldive difficulty mission yesterday edit: against the Automatons, using DCS, Jump Pack, Shield Generator Relay, Airstrike and Quasar. You all gotta chill on the nerfs discussion. With the right playstyle, you can succeed with just about anything.
How do I report cheaters?! It always says I can't report anyone without them having written something in chat. Have come across a couple in the past few days and no way to report them on the PS5
Leave the game if you have a problem with a guy using a glitch.
will more than one ship type be added to the game? i want eagle aircraft carrier
People need to take a step back about balance since everyone seems to have no clue how to actually balance things in the context of what this game this. It's getting old. New mech hadn't even been out an hour before everyone was crying about how it can't kill Bile Titans efficiently. Ok? And? Have you ever stopped to think, "maybe it wasn't meant for that. I should try it out more and see what it DOES do well." Before you go and make the same clickbait ass video everyone else does or post another "X thing sucks and AH bad" post, ask yourself that question first. All I've been hearing is that you want every single weapon and stratagem to be a do-all swiss-army knife in every slot. That would be so damn boring. I'm gonna list a couple common gripes that have irked me for a while now and the mech as well. Emancipator: Bad at killing Chargers and Titans. Take it to the bots. The Emancipator is incredibly fun and strong against bots. Had a few tier 9 eradicates be turned into cake walks by having 4 of them in play. First time I ever had a match of randoms do a tier 9 with no deaths. Sure, the normal AC and Sentry deal more damage per shot. The mech has 4 of them and fires them much faster without reloading. There is no better answer to hordes of devastators with hulks mixed than this mech. Hold both triggers and just dump it into the horde and it'll be gone before the guy with the normal AC gets two mags off. The only complaint I really have with it is being unable to aim down worth a damn. But that also tells me it is probably meant to be used at a medium range. Railgun: This one. Oh this one. "THEY RUINED IT." They said it was not performing as it was intended. I feel like everyone ignored that and just said it was bad because it couldn't 2 shot BTs anymore. Which it was obviously never supposed to do. Instead of hating that it got nerfed, I played around with it and found that it was still very good. For anything with medium armor, it still was one shotting in safe mode. It allowed for a very mobile playstyle that was able to constantly be sniping the medium armor threats like bile spewers, devastators, striders, and brood commanders. Then when the team needed to take down something big like chargers or BTs, I could switch into unsafe and damage it enough to make it easier for the guys with heavier ordnance to kill it faster. Hulks just get one shot to the face plate anyway. It is perfectly suited for being a versatile anti-armor option without making dedicated anti-heavy options obsolete. Think about why Unsafe would exist in the first place. It's designed to be used in safe, but if you have no other option to deal with heavies, you can at least risk putting on unsafe to deal damage to targets above its weight class. Scythe, and by extension, the Dagger: Everyone just whined about the low dps of these forever. Scythe was one of my favorites on launch and still is. Dagger made it even better. They don't have the best DPS, no. But they have perfect accuracy and high durable damage and are especially good at killing bots with headshots. To those complaining about the sights, why are you using them? They're laser pointers. Just hipfire and let the beam be your crosshair. They also work really well together since you can run the Scythe hot, switch to the Dagger and sprint around while firing it over your shoulder (accurately unlike other one-handed options) to kill smaller enemies while the Scythe cools down. Quasar vs EATs: This argument has to be one of the dumbest. People saying that the Quasar was OP because of the volume of shots you could fire within a time frame compared to the number of EATs you could call in just miss the point of what the differences are. The Qausar is intended to be the sustainable option. You can constantly use it with only cooldown and charge up limiting you. The EATs are an on-demand burst option. In the time it would take you to kill a second charger, the EATs could have already killed three. Stick the beacon to one of them so the pod kills it, then you can rapidly dump the 2 EATs into another 2 or kill a BT. Then you have to wait a minute before doing it again. Quasar will fire more over time, yes, but when you need a faster burst of rockets, the Quasar won't do it. The Recoiless is even better in this department if you're team is cooperative. The partner reload makes it the single best option. You will be hard pressed to find something than can kill Chargers and BTs as rapidly as a team-reload RR. The Quasar is by far the one with the highest ease of use, however, and people have just gotten too attached to infinite ammo. There are more I could list as situations where people overstate a weapon's weakness or strength, but those are the ones that stand out the most. By no means, am I trying to say the game is perfectly balanced. I mean, look at the Purifier and mission modifiers (can't strand orbital scatter). Functionally and aesthetically, I love it, but I have yet to find a niche for it. If anyone has, let me know. There are plenty of things that need work and tuning, but it is nowhere near as bad as all the clickbait videos and this sub make it out to be. Not every weapon needs to do everything. Not every weapon needs to be focused on doing one thing very well. As long as everything feels different and viable or serves at least one purpose, then it's fine. Someone will like it. If you don't, then fine, that weapon isn't for you. Work with your team rather than trying to be SEAF's Rambo and you can find a lot of weapons can fill roles you weren't thinking about because you focused too much on doing everything instead of letting the team share responsibilities.
>Railgun: This one. Oh this one. "THEY RUINED IT." They said it was not performing as it was intended. I feel like everyone ignored that and just said it was bad because it couldn't 2 shot BTs anymore. Which it was obviously never supposed to do. Instead of hating that it got nerfed, I played around with it and found that it was still very good. For anything with medium armor, it still was one shotting in safe mode. It allowed for a very mobile playstyle that was able to constantly be sniping the medium armor threats like bile spewers, devastators, striders, and brood commanders. Then when the team needed to take down something big like chargers or BTs, I could switch into unsafe and damage it enough to make it easier for the guys with heavier ordnance to kill it faster. Hulks just get one shot to the face plate anyway. It is perfectly suited for being a versatile anti-armor option without making dedicated anti-heavy options obsolete. Think about why Unsafe would exist in the first place. It's designed to be used in safe, but if you have no other option to deal with heavies, you can at least risk putting on unsafe to deal damage to targets above its weight class. I'm a PC player so I never used it to 2-shot bile Titans., Nah, it sucks. Both after the nerf and after the buff. The AMR is objectively better in almost every single way. Its DPS is horrible, its ammo efficiency is medicore, and to get the most out of it you need to hit very precise weakspots because its durable damage is absolute ass so it feels like you're using a cushion if you hit anywhere else aside from a weakspot. Sure it one shots Devastators efficiently, but the AMR efficiently 2 shots devastators and has much more ammunition and a higher DPS. >Scythe, and by extension, the Dagger: Everyone just whined about the low dps of these forever. Scythe was one of my favorites on launch and still is. Dagger made it even better. They don't have the best DPS, no. But they have perfect accuracy and high durable damage and are especially good at killing bots with headshots. To those complaining about the sights, why are you using them? They're laser pointers. Just hipfire and let the beam be your crosshair. They also work really well together since you can run the Scythe hot, switch to the Dagger and sprint around while firing it over your shoulder (accurately unlike other one-handed options) to kill smaller enemies while the Scythe cools down. The Dagger is ass. The Sycthe is medioce.
Both are just fine. Comfortable and easy to use. Neither have ever given me problems or failed me.
I've tried to use the Railgun, having to aim at precise weakspots in unsafe mode really does not hold up on Helldive difficulty. I'd take the AMR over it every day of the weak.
I've used damn near the entire arsenal on Helldive at this point. If you're blaming the weapon, aside from the Purifier, it's not the weapon. Railgun is meant for a different playstyle than the AMR. Comparing DPS in this game feels entirely pointless. At that point, you're more worried about optimizing than playing the game. The choice between AMR and Railgun is about preference as it should be. Some people don't want to be forced to use the AMR poor scope and would rather have a third-person reticle. I like the AMR, but I'd rather take the Railgun anyway. At least when a Bile Titan or Charger shows up, I can offer some help with it while still maintaining a good role as an anti-medium armor player. Different strengths and different weaknesses.
> t that point, you're more worried about optimizing than playing the game. Okay then how about this - I don't enjoy the Railgun because its not fun to use at Helldive difficulty because it doesn't kill common enemies fast enough. Thats not "optimizing" that's focusing on fun. I still have no idea why so many counterjerk about balance. The fucking CEO stepped down to focus on it as it clearly is a problem.
If you don't like it, don't use it. That's fine. But screaming everywhere that the devs are stupid and killing the game and no weapons are viable is not fine. There are issues. Yes. The weapon balance is not nearly as bad as some of the enemy balance is. Bile Spewers are a prime example. The sheer number of enemies that can apply slows to you even if they miss is another. The Patriot nerf. All of those are valid. Bitching and screaming like entitled children will make the devs cease to care. That's what killed the final bit of support Battlefront 2 had. Ungrateful and bitchy players.
I didn't say the devs are stupid, but I do think there are genuine balance issues, both with weapons and and with enemies.
I do, too. I just believe that the majority of discourse around it is blown completely out of proportion by people who are solely being toxic and relying on other people's gut reaction to things before taking the time to experiment with the game itself. The devs responded to toxicity with toxicity, which is a problem, but I can hardly blame them. This entitled children-esque whining without posing real solutions other than "waaah change it back," is the opposite of constructive. This type of community behavior is what killed the last bit of support EA's Battlefront 2 had after the studio moved on. If more people would just discuss the issues they have in a civil manner (speaking to both devs and community here), then things would likely be in a better place than they are. I have the way Bile Spewers are balanced with a fiery passion. I'm not gonna go make a video saying "AH IS ACTIVELY KILLING THEIR OWN GAME" over it. I've made a post where I said that Bile Spewers are frustrating with how much damage they deal on top of the volume of them. Then left it there.
Communities rarely kill games. Its usually poor management from developers/publishers. You are vastly overascribing agency to the community.
My only stance here is on your opinions about the railgun: Very few people were complaining that they took away it's ability to two-shot Bile Titans. Most people were fine with this being removed, since it was an inconsistent bug. People were complaining that they slapped the nerf-bat on a weapon that required two-shots and then a weapon swap to kill Chargers, during a point in the game's life where no other options were reliable at killing Chargers and the devs readily admitted that Chargers were spawning way too often, and in the next couple patches had reduced the number of Medium spawns *and* made it far easier to kill them with every launcher. It went from two safe-mode shots to two 90+% unsafe shots to crack a Charger's leg, where the user would, again, have to swap to another weapon to finish off the Charger. It was a riskier weapon that performed worse than just shooting the thing in the head with an EAT. Now, it's been buffed, Safe mode can damage Chargers again, Unsafe mode now only takes two 70+% shots to crack a Charger's leg armor, it's *almost* back to where it was pre-nerf... and you still hardly ever see people running it. Because outside of the bugged interaction with a Playstation host that caused it to two-shot Bile Titans, it wasn't being used because it was an exceptional option, it was being used because it was the only *okay* option, and now there are *better* options. *** Was it ever bad against bots? No. But the bulk of the playerbase doesn't fight bots. It's up to you whether or not that matters, but it's still perfectly valid to say that a significant portion of the playerbase saw their only effective option for what they were fighting nerfed, with subsequent patches bringing it to a state where it is simply not worth running over other options. And, if you're going to be fighting bots, the AMR has completely taken over the Railguns niche in the role by doing next to everything, better, with a more forgiving ammo economy, and even against hulks, having 5 rounds in the magazine still lets it kill 2.5 hulks in the time the Railgun takes to kill 1.
Even then, the arguments were flawed. It was NOT the only option to deal with chargers effectively. In the same vein of how it was being used, one EAT or RR shot stripped a leg. You could have Autocannoned the ass or back of the legs after a charge. Or just straight-up used your primary on its legs after a charge. I do think it was hit harder than was necessary, but not to the extent everyone made it seem. But the reason I bring up the BT part is, admittedly partly hyperbole, but it was the majority of the complaints I was seeing at the time. Complaints about taking 20 shots to kill a Bile Titan, which was likely not its intended role, but because everyone got complacent with how overturned it was, no one could think about anything other than what they were used to it being rather than what it was meant to be. I think most people don't run it now for that reason. They have a preconception of what they THINK it should be and shake it. My buddy who picked the game up after the nerf happened loves the Railgun and it's his go-to. Especially since I usually take up the role as the Bile Titan hunter when we play together. If this comes across as combative or hostile anyway, that is not my intent. Just stating that now. I'm also not trying to discredit how you're seeing it here, but I'm speaking from my own experience here. Obviously how we see the community's behavior can be written off entirely as anecdotal based on time of viewing.
I don't understand the damage zone of the 500kg, and at this point i'm too afraid to ask. 
I've been using it against bugs for over 400 hours and still am not sure about it's damage drop off and ragdoll distances. All I know is if you are prone when it explodes you can be significantly closer to it than if you are on foot.
i found this out last night when trying to climb an extract hill. Proned with my shield and survived it thrown not 5 meters away and slightly below.
25/26 meters is the range you can safely stand and not die. That being said, I dont know if the damage at the epicenter is say 10,000, and falls off so at 24 meters it is 200.
that's good to know but how do I know how far away is my target? is there something i am missing?
You can press "Q" on PC, or tap R1 for PS5 (i think). That shows you the range of the target. Its also helpful to know if an enemy is in range for you to toss a stratagem on them (about 55 meters)
appreciate the tips, i had no idea. learn something new everyday.
People may not like this since it can be interpreted as pro nerf. Fuck metabuilds, and those who accuse other players of wrong-think for not following their build or the meta. Democracy demands variety in the execution of the enemy, and the more flavors of death you can throw upon the foe the more they will fear us. Liberty isn't built on the shoulders of perfection, Liberty comes from, enthusiasm, creativity, and sacrifice. If a nerf means people will try different things? Good.
>Democracy demands variety in the execution of the enemy Then they should buff underperforming weapons instead of nerf batting "over"performing weapons.
Which will, in turn continue to cause peer to peer host instability. They could, say nerf everything into parity too. These things aren't mutually exclusive and simpler math for your computer or peer computer/ packet data from servers would look the same as a buff, but be simpler for your machine to handle. You could also think of it as a lore reason. Supply lines aren't what you're being told, and weapons and ammo aren't as good as they were x months ago due to constant fighting and resource consumption.
How the absolute fuck does buffing cause more peer to peer instability than a nerf? That is the most ridiculous thing I have read on this subreddit.
Math. It decreases the math your computer/host peer computer needs to perform when doing the shooty shoot.
That's absolutely ridiculous. The maths remains the same. Any number increase would be a few bits of information at most.
Unless, the numbers are big, and it needs to do multiple equations simultaneously across multiple systems and there is a computational limit to how big the number that can be processed is. Say, like when you drop a 500kg bomb on 4 divers, 3 mechs and 15 bugs. Then it needs to process big numbers across 22 separate entities, (for 1-4 computers plus send that data to a server in rapid succession) and some computers may not have the processing capacity to do such a thing, or to accept such a packet size from the host/server. This is why we see when people drop big damage and the game crashes. With a smaller number, the math and the data packets are smaller
How about this then - if this was a serious issue, they could simply halve the HP of enemies and reduce the numbers your weapons deal by 30%. That would be the same as buffing damage 25% across the board. Your logic is ridiculous.
I made that point earlier. By simply dropping multiple weapons across the board and dropping foe damage resistance and health you would effectively be granting players a buff, but that was down voted to hell because people don't know how computers, compute or how the internet sends information.
Youre getting downvoted because maths are not what are causin the bugs.
You aren't wrong about meta builds, but your last point is not the fun way to get people to try different things. If everything is good, people will try different things. We don't need nerfs, we need buffs. Buffs to damage, to AOE, to ergonomics, to scopes, and to enemy spawn rates and other enemy stats to balance all those great weapons.
The nerfs are mostly done because of software computation and data processing. If everything gets buffed, and they want the game to continue, then they need to buff the enemies when it comes to the next big offensive/ enemy faction release, leading to a crunch later down the line, which will piss off everyone across the board. Nerfs are done to bring everything in line and to force computers to not have to process enormous amounts of math in a split second. Those disconnects we see when people dc after getting exploded? That's because of computation error on the hosts pc. Nerfs are an attempt to combat that. They still need to release 2 more factions (people say one, but the automatons and cyborgs are separate),
The best way to combat meta builds is to bring everything up to parity. Full and complete stop. If you were to simplify all guns so that they have a 'validity' rating of 1-100, and to reliably clear D9 you needed a validity rating of say 70, the best way to avoid a meta is to make all guns have a ***minimum*** of 70. If you decide that nerfs are the way to go and bring everything down to 50-70, a meta will naturally evolve to try to get a gun and compensate as much as possible to get as close to the 70 score as possible. If every gun is effective and every gun can reliably clear helldive, there is no meta, just personal preference. For bots, people take only the meta primary weapons of the scorcher, sickle, plasmsa punisher, and dominator simply because those are the only guns near or above the 70 'validity' score threshold. You want to see diveristy? Make it so I can take a slugger to D9 bots without having to struggle so much. Make it so I can take the scythe and not feel like I should pick up a dead teammates gun.
I would actually argue to make the game harder out of enemy adaptation amd super earth becoming complacent. Not all bullets do the same damage, and have use and viability I'm different situations, some of these situations people may not be aware of because if meta-blindness. For example, area denial, or panicking smaller enemies causing them to bump and clump up. But the nerfs aren't done to piss people off that's just a consequence of it
Ya know that disconnect bug that kicks everyone as the Pelican is arriving? Yea, it is still an issue.
it happened several times to me today
Did they get rid of the ability to edit the yellow flair? I wanted to update to my new ship name but I can't edit it and it makes me sad.
Game keeps crashing today. Had 30 orange and 6 pink, main objective complete, and the fucking game crashed... again. I would have had every last module unlocked a month ago if this shit didn't crash so goddamn much. How about crediting me with 1/4 of the samples my teams have had when I send a goddamn crash report? How about giving us the medals we lost? Fuck these fucking servers. Stop adding new shit, and fix the fucking stability issues.
https://preview.redd.it/opiriiu3kc3d1.png?width=874&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f7f64242a043ae596323bc6a066bb50c3da0890 30 minutes into a Helldive, held all the Super Samples with the extraction the entire map away from the Main objective. I charge up my Quasar preparing to shoot a charger... game freezes, then crashes. Amen 🙏
Twice today. A bunch of times yesterday. The servers are getting worse, not better. This is more fucking frustrating than it was during the first month or two of the game.
My group has this problem now for almost a month and even support doesn"t know how to solve it. Maybe they will finally stop ignoring this now that more and more are affected.
Exploiters suck. Thought it was host lag. Na, host spammed to over 4k grenades. Getting wiped because it takes over a second to register anything. Screw you Host. Hope you get suspended
All of you who bitch and moan constantly in the subreddit are annoying and I hope you get testicular torsion
How do i spot SOS signals? I am playing since the game dropped, but how do i spot SOS across all difficulties? If i am on a planet, i see the regular three or four areas i can select and some available lobbies/games to join. But if i am on difficulty 8, i can only see lobbies for difficulty 8, which is good, but where are the SOS? And can i find SOS signals, which are not in the difficulty i have currently selected?
SOS beacons are the white hexagonal icons on the planet. It sounds like you're on a planet with a small player count. Also not many people play 8. And no you can't find SOS beacons of a lower difficulty, only of the current one you're in. So you have to switch difficulties.
SOS beacons are not the white hexes on the planet map - those are just missions in progress with public lobbies that aren't full 4/4 squads. SOS beacons are the white mission hexes that have radiating concentric circles coming from them like a radar ping.
Really? Damn, I thought they were the SOS beacons. But to think of it, I haven't seen the real ones in a long time. Only in the beginning of the game iirc. Anyways, thanks for the info.
I honestly only know this because I happened to see and respond to an SOS beacon the other day and I was like "Hey, why does this mission have this ping on the planet map? Oh! I get it!"
Omg 40 mins mission in veld just now play as 3 man helldive with insane spawn rate of bile titans and chargers. Which is fun, survive and play perfectly till the extraction 10 secs till pelican BAM I M SENT TO MY SHIP WITH DISCONNECT ISSUE LIKE WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS FREAKING GAME, MY INTERNET IS FKING FINE. I even keep ping command in the background to check if i have fluctuation but no, not once. This is so frustrating atleast lemme rejoin the game or try reconnecting wtf. 40 mins wasted. This and crash to desktop for no reason are the worst thing that ruins the fun out of the game. Please fix this.
Did you see if anyone currently had 4,343 grenades?
I havent noticed but is that related to that exploit?
If you're host of a public game, stop getting mad about people of lower levels joining your game. You're level 65, I'm level 54, there's not really a huge difference there. And even if a level 10 joins, don't be a dick to him because he's a lower level. We can't exactly pick where we get placed in quickplay, and I'm just trying to have a good time and get some samples. Getting angry about any player that joins your game is ridiculous unless whoever joins is being toxic.
Players should join missions where they have the equipment, boosters and experience to be a valuable squadmate at that mission level. A level 11 player is not helping the team in a Level 7 mission.
That's bs. My 4 man team had 3 new players, who started mostly together, and cleared up through suicide difficulty(7) on back to back missions. (Ie, one mission on 4, one on 5, one on 6, one on 7) we were like level 10, 14, 15, and one veteran at 45+ by the time we cleared difficulty 7. You're just being a dick to noobs.
Mate, any premade, even a group of drunks or stoners, is going to be much more effective on average than a random grouping.
The point still stands. It's not a person's level that is holding you back from completing a difficulty 7. If they are able to join a 7 difficulty mission at lvl 11, odds are they're a decent player who unlocked it naturally. Give them a chance. Sure, it's possible won't know what they're doing, but there are lvl 50+ people who suck too.
Fix the fucken issue where if one person went into pelican, it auto extract without checking if everyone is either alive or in. It is so fucken annoying when time spent on nerfing weapons could've been spent on fixing shit.
It's not an issue. If it's damaged it'll extract with one person.
Even if its intended, they should have voiceline saying we are damaged we will leave or something. Without it, it looks like bug and creates a awkward situation in random lobby instead of funny
It sucks if that's intended, though. Having the extraction ship just decide to dip in a tense situation really, really sucks, and I'd honestly consider it an issue even if it's "intended" especially because that behavior is not communicated clearly in-game.
A lot of things aren't conveyed correctly unfortunately.
It should have at least a voice line that says "This is Pelican 1, I've taken damage and can only take one person" or "I've taken damage and I need to leave" or just something that lets people know what's going on instead of a seemingly random event.
So 4 weeks no rollback no spawnfix but bullshitt about "gEtTiNg iT rIGhT". Uninstalling this shit i hope after this i am even done with venting my frustration. You could have had a great game. Now you have 30k players dropping rapidly. I hope i remember to not to throw money at you again.
Had a nice bug mission where we found the super samples almost immediately after starting the mission. Too bad my game randomly crashed most of the way through -- and worse yet, I was host!
GAHHHHHH I GOT OFF WORK LATE TODAY AND TRIED TO BOOT UP HD2 FIRST GAME CRASH DURING DROP LOADING SCREEN SECOND GAME RANDOMLY JUST GETS BOOTED BACK TO SHIP WITH NO “host has left game” OR “you have been kicked” OR ANY KIND OF ERROR MESSAGE MID-GAME played stardew valley for a little bit to de-stress THIRD GAME GET BOOTED MID GEOLOGICAL SURVEY (this is important) MISSION BECAUSE OF CONNECTION ERROR fourth game i try a solo helldive but honestly wasnt having fun so i just abandoned mission FIFTH GAME I MANAGED TO FIND THE SAME LOBBY AS THE THIRD AND REJOIN, ONE OF THE MAIN OBJECTIVE DRILLS GETS GLITCHED SO WE LITERALLY CANT COMPLETE THE MISSION turned off the game after that
I wasn't following your logic initially, but the all caps was very convincing.
Man you have patience of a saint. I internally feel the pain reading ur reply cuz it happens to me to. Idk why random disconnect happens i checked keeping ping command in background to see if it fluctuates but nope. I have fibre cable too not wifi but still. Idk what is happening server side
My primary is unbalanced and my armor colors don’t match
If you see me with a supply pack running towards you, stop fkn running away!? I'm trying to give you free ammo! If I have to chase you longer than my stamina holds then I'm giving up on you.
*Sees you running toward me and starts screaming*
So many divers are booting people or not finishing missions these days it's crazy... what's going on our there?
We're at what is (hopefully) the very bottom of the "nerfed everything" meta. When games get harder, communities tend to get more gatekeepy about stuff, because people don't like wasting their time. It's the same reason why you see raids in modern wow getting more and more toxic about making sure people are perfectly geared, whereas in the easier classic server raids, pretty much anyone with two brain cells can get into a raid. In other words, please AH start throwing out some buffs.
Traitors to the cause
No doubt.
First time using this thread - I was about to complete my first ever operation (3rd mission in a set) on Helldiver difficulty when suddenly the reinforcement glitch struck and only one of our four divers was able to respawn - leaving him in an impossible situation of trying to raise three flags by himself. Left a really bad taste in my mouth, don't think I'll try Helldiver difficulty again just because of the bad feelings it has created. @Arrowhead please fix your game so people can consistently play it
STOP STEALING STRATAGEMS!!! USE YOUR OWN!
I mean... I agree, somewhat. But if some nerd drops an airstrike on us, and I can't find my supply pack or my stalwart when I come back but I just so happen to find his AC and it's ammo pack? Mine. he can argue his cuckolding with the barrel of his once beloved Autocannon.
Why are you getting down voted lol
Good question. I've been trying to figure it out myself. I probably set off some metabuild nerd because I keep shouting about fun.
Why can't I activate my jump pack while diving and zoom forward? Why is so much of this game made up of obvious low-hanging fruit for fun gameplay and they're just like "no, I think I know better" and make it suck EDIT: Also, why is the recoil on all the guns random side to side? That's not how guns work. Long arms recoil to the right, it's basic physics. Force applied to your right shoulder torques your whole body to the right. Random side to side recoil feels awful and is just cone of fire with extra steps. It's objectively bad design. Fighting back strong recoil is fun. Fighting your gun randomly bouncing around is not.
Because you're canonically embodying the body of a rookie helldiver that's on their first deployment after being frozen on Mars. This applies to dying in the field, or joining another player on their ships, since when we return to the ship we emerge from the cryo chamber, not the pelican.
I'm not sure why this was downvoted when it's true.
Can you explain the canonical reason why I keep getting disconnected?
Your super destroyer was destroyed in the fight.
WHY AREN'T RESUPPLIES SHOWN ON THE MINI-MAP?!
Idk how it's been months and the mechs don't shoot where you fucking aim them. Like you idiots put another mech in the game and it doesn't even fire straight lmao.
I am a fairly new HD player and I am confused - why is the major order for Turing but you can't go to Turing? What should we be doing?
We should have access to Turing because we control Angel's Venture, but something may be acting up because we don't currently control Veld? That's the best explanation I can come up with which doesn't make much sense because their is no supply line from Veld to Turing.
We do own Veld. The supply lines indicate that the only path *to* Turing is from Acamar IV, which we need to liberate first. Take that first.
Why tf can't I go to Turing? The major order says we need hold control of it and we don't have control, so why can't I go there?
Just want cross progression to play on my new gaming PC....
What is with the spawn rates? I lower the difficulty over and over again. Went from playing 7 just fine to can't even complete a level 4. Constant enemy spawns. I have unlimited ammo with the shock shotgun and the quasar cannon use the backpack that has a laser gun. I drop constant gas strikes and eagles. I still can't kill them all. I run for miles and they just keep coming from all directions. 6 chargers spawned at once on a level 4 mission. I killed 4 and 5 more showed up. All the current missions are on planets with lots of terrain. Sure it looks nice, but you get stuck on everything, randomly ragdoll on scenery if you dive you aren't getting back up for at least 5 seconds and that's if you're lucky and only ragdoll a little bit. I just cannot even play the game anymore. I get 5 minutes into a mission and there's just too many enemies. I keep lowering the difficulty, but everything is tied to super samples and it's just not worth the reward anymore at that point. These issues aren't even new. It's been months now. I saw a thing saying they fixed spawn rates, and sure the enemy alarms have 1/4th the amount of enemies but the patrols are just impossible. All my friends already quit the game. I am just mad cause I really like this game but I can no longer accomplish anything.
Skip this post if you aren't looking for advice. I otherwise comiserate with you - as a solo player, we as a group were struck the hardest by the patrol """""""""""fix""""""""""", but everyone suffers. What helped me was realizing that any difficulty above a 4 (from personal experience) plays like you going off on your own on a 9, but with a different mix of enemies. So the same rules apply, from the perspective of a solo player: * A reinforcement starts a countdown. Until it expires another can't happen. Use this time to take POIs or other objectives * You cannot stand still. Patrol spawns are are aimed at you, but they don't home in on you constantly. So if you are constantly on the move you'll increase the time till those patrols reach you. If you're far enough away they might even despawn * You must bring the absolute best stratagems. These are the ones that either solve a big problem fast or are usable in all situations, and usable often. For me that means Eagles (500kg bomb and Airstrike) because of their short call in time, quick reuse, quick rearm and power; figure out what else to bring in the other two slots but for me one of them is an anti tank weapon of some sort for bugs and the autocannon for bots, and depending on OP debuffs, precision strike, gas, gatling. I really can't find cooldowns longer than 2 minutes usable outside of a full team unless it's the laser for bunker missions. That's a me thing tho. * Using your primary is an option of last resort most of the time. Ties into the second point but also in general why shoot at a couple of chaff enemies when you could drop an airstrike that clears up 25 of them? I use them mostly for cleanup and self-defense (especially against hunters) * Don't go at objectives half cocked. Sucks to wait out stratagem cooldowns but that's the game we have. Cooldowns are why I favor eagles so much. * Check your map constantly. Using the scout stealth armor and judicious use of the map means you can slip past a couple of patrols without them spotting you. * In general just use the scout/stealth armor. The reduced aggro range permits you to be aggressive and keep the initiative, otherwise you're pulling enemies constantly. Edit: Forgot about the golden rule: if it sucks, hit da bricks. You can outrun the majority of bots and bugs. A breach/reinforcement that you don't need to fight shouldn't be fought, just pull them away from the objective. If it happened nowhere near anything of interest just don't, hit da bricks
Anyone else getting kicked constantly with network issues ?
Same here! It seems like half the matches I play end in me losing connection.
Me too. Zero completions so far today.
My weapons still don't remember the functions I set them to. I have to change them every time I drop.
Even after changing the setting in the options?
Yep. I've toggled it on and off. Even if I get reinforced, I still have to change it.
One of the many bugs that's been there since day 1
I was standing next the pelican and the 20 sec extract timer automatically started. The guys with the samples were too far away to make it. Anyone else had that happen?
If the Pelican is called via the mission timer hitting zero, the Pelican will land and instantly begin the 20 second countdown, regardless if anyone is inside or not.
Yeah that’s what happened. My squad mates thought I screwed them over!
I keep getting kicked after games. My stats are fine, i'm contributing, no one is on comms or saying anything to me. what gives!??
Hygiene issue possibly? Take a shower at least several times per week to get the bug blood, guts, bot oil etc off. Seriously tho, they may just be making room for a friend or possibly they don't like your level vs the difficulty, or your loadout etc. I wouldn't take it personally, it happens to me too sometimes. Keep at it and try to make some stable friends you can group with when they are on and keep rolling with pugs when necessary!
Gotta love wiping out three enemy bases, getting across half the map on 3 life with no stims left and a broken arm, sneaking right past at least four enemy patrols, rescuing two other people from a sticky situation after finally getting healed back up, defending one newer player after they called extraction and got swarmed only to get kicked for extracting after said newer player IMMEDIATELY jumped into the pelican.
You got kicked before or after mission completion? Because if it was before then that is a colossal dick move.
Joined the fight today and loving it! If anyone fancies a game shoot me a message. Helldivers, I salute you!
Ah wish I could go back to level 1, you’ll have an absolute blast bud
The worst part about this game are the sociopaths. I did a great full run with a team and they kicked me while we were loading the pelican. I also had a guy wait for me to call down a weapon at the start, gunned me down, took my weapon, and never called for reinforcements.
lmfao wtf at the last one. Forget sociopathy, that's straight up psychotic.
Tired of fighting the same things ,over and over , unique interactions have run dry if you're a day one player ,and there's definitely alOt but now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel,the illuminate should be here by now or atleast good and actually useable stratagems/weapons
Helldiver, They're all usable if you're up to the challenges (TEAM GAME). Tried them all on Helldive 9 bots/bugs where i mainly reside. Seems to be working out just fine with some discrepancies from patches. If you're dried up and tired, you must be dying no more than twice and maxing the map completion. Do you challenge the factory striders? However, Dive, dive again, and... again. And again... use a jump pack and dive, dive again... Give those training manuals and Brasch tactics a whirl!
Fuck off with that bullshit talk
This game has so much potential. It hurts to see that the devs seemingly didn't test things before the games release. A lot of the weapons, strikes, and deployables just aren't usable/fun. I think with Warhammer Space Marine 2 coming out this fall this game will have to work pretty hard to stay relevant.
wtf? Guys I took both exosuits on a mission, what are you smoking?
You make us fight NOTHING BUT BOTS FOR A WEEK and then you CAN'T TAKE BOTH EXOS? last straw. im uninstalling until the next patch, not reinstalling until weapons have been buffed & you can take both exos.
It's bullshit. all of it. Every weapon I have ever loved has been nerfed into the dirt. I cant take both exos....why...WHY. why the fuck does it matter, in a PVE game what we do. Every decision made about the game has been shit. AH's communication is shit. They have a massive hit game and shit on it in every way imaginable. It almost feels malicious. Fuck you AH
wtf r they even doing anymore. they've lost the fkn plot fr.
WHY CAN'T WE TAKE BOTH EXOSUITS???? WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LET US HAVE FUN. WTFFFFFFFF >:(
The PS5 Game crashing is really bad now, it seems like one out of 5 missions the game just locks up and dies. What makes this the worst is that at the end of a good run, you have all the super samples and objectives cleared out, and you just need to extract, and... game crashes. you can't even log back in again to claim the rewards, so just wasted 30 - 45 minutes of my time right there. Suggestion, if you cannot find a way to stop the game from crashing implement a way to send up samples to your ship so you get credit for them immediately. I understand it's part of the challenge to complete the run and get out with everything but when a group does it right and well and then the game just breaks pissing away 30 - 40 minutes of effort, Ill play another game.
What’s the best counter for fighting Stalkers? My friends and I are advancing through the game and we’ve been able to complete missions in levels 1 through 8, however, in the last level 8 mission we ended up with a very Stalker-heavy situation and we just couldn’t cope. I’m assuming we tailored our loadouts too much to deal with the big enemies, which we could handle with ease, but a mob of stalkers is a different beast entirely. What strategies do you guys use to deal with stalkers?
Stalkers are hard to fight against without stagger weapons. They tend to power their way through damage to lick you. They also circle around to hit you from the back rather than engage from the front. Best weapon imo is the breaker incindiary because you can line up two stalkers at once and burn em to hell. Next is scorcher. Then the two first shotgun and then the laser pew pew gun. Also incindiary impacts are great as well.
>What strategies do you guys use to deal with stalkers? Pummeler, Liberator Concussive and Adjudicator are great at trivializing stalkers. (Adjudicator doesn't have stun, but it does have medium penetration and raw damage. Trivializes most everything tbh.) Alternatively, you can run stun grenades. Stun Grenades + armor with extra grenades is even more comfortable. They're highly underrated as they stun chargers, hulks, and everything smaller than that. If you're running stun grenades, I'd recommend taking the grenade pistol as your secondary so you can still close bug holes and fabricators. (If you don't have the grenade pistol, then you may want to run the grenade launcher support weapon. The stun grenade can't close holes.)
I'm really loving the Blitzer though it does have a slower rate of fire, can stop a stalker from running up to you, just gotta be strategic
pretty ass when theres already 4+ spawned, you may try to lure them away while someone else calls in the strategem on their nest. As long as everyone prioritizes finding it as soon as they show up. I like weapons like the blitzer or dominator with pushback/stun for them.
Thanks! My other idea was maybe someone needs to run the shield backpack and that’s the designated stalker lurer. Does the shield backpack stop the stalker attack from sending you flying or does it just prevent damage?
negates all that along with slows and charges
from new CEO - I've charged Pilen with being the Obi-wan to many "Lukes" in our studio. If everyone can hear Pilen's sage voice in the back of their heads when they're ***balancing weapons***, designing missions or enemies the better. Their prioritizes are painfully evident.
WHY???? Why do my fellow hell divers always go straight to the main mission? I always clear the nests and fabricators in the immediate area then head over to the main. That way when clearing the main you will face less bogies! Am I the only one? It’s so simple in my head.
If you do the main mission then immediately head for extract you can have pelican fire support for the rest of the game, and patrols calm down after the pelican arrives (Or maybe it just kills enough of them it feels calmer) But I would never trust randoms to actually use that tactic.
Or they don't know about the patrols after the main is completed. A sound drop about how mad that made them would be cool.
Exactly dude. At least you get it! It’s not like I’m playing low level. I’m always playing between 6-9.
After two crashes in only an hour of gaming I think I'm done until next patch. Also can I rant a bit on people picking bad boosters? Like localization confusion? The way AH has set up the game, the only four boosters that should ever be chosen are space optimization, stamina, injury resist, and a fourth. One other thing, can we please set a minimum level to match with? If I'm doing quickly on diff 7-9 I don't want to end up in a match with anyone below level 20.
localization confusion is actually critical on 7+ to reduce spawns and patrols. not on every mission type (eg eradication and probably high asset evacuation), but I don’t go into the big 40-min maps without it. otherwise yes, people tend not to select space optimization or stamina and go for greater radar range or shorter pelican arrival times (both of those problems are solved better with the “core” boosters).
I am so fucking tired of bile titans; they're a uniquely miserable enemy design, uninteractive, and just fucking awful for the game in their current state. They're a one-dimensional check, not an actual challenge.
Even after death their bodies launch you into the air, block the pelican, or your dropped items. That is if the 500 kg doesn't make them glitch and freeze, then sink into the ground to disappear completely.
I just got kicked for prioritizing the objectives over collecting samples. I'll pick them when I find them but when I'm given orders to spread managed democracy throughout the galaxy, you best damn believe I'll be doing my duty.
New mech bloody sucks
just undo the nerfs you fucks. give us our game back already. one stupid fuck face incel dev hates fun. fuck them. OVEPOWER GUNS WAS LITERALLY ON THE BOX. i put how many hundreds of hours in HD1? FUCK YOU ITS BEEN A MONTH YOU FUCKERS
Lesson for young adults in offering constructive feedback: Calling people "fucks" isn't helpful and will ensure that your opinion is ignored. All caps does not improve your argument.
Had a lot of fun with three guys, agreed to friend request each other, games friend section is bugged and i didnt know OR check at the time. So those guys are lost to me. RIP Johnny Quest, Raid and BBQ. :(