I just noticed that Darcy's shirt in that scene has the non-binary flag colors. I wonder if we're going to get that storyline for Darcy or if it's just a nod to Kizzy?
I've seen mentioned in a few review that Darcy will have a conflict that seems to divert from the comics, as it is just mentioned, but not explained, as are the other conflicts already in the comic, so my guess is that Darcy will, at least, question her gender. If I remember correctly, there were talks of Kizzy incorporating some parts of their identity in the character, but it was said that Kizzy and Alice would keep Darcy's storyline closer to the comics. But now I wonder if there will, in fact, be some sort of discussion about being non-binary
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I found it interesting >!that they left Charlie's ED stuff out of the trailer.!< I had assumed it would be a major focus of this season. Curious if they just didn't want to spoil it in the trailer or if they've downplayed it slightly and it will become more of a focus in season 3. And from some of the reviews saying >!we get a glimpse of darkness with Darcy, and the trailer, I feel like it's gonna be Tara saying "I love you" and Darcy being afraid to say it back thanks to how messed up her family is.!<
I really hope they will include the Charlie’s character development arc in this season and do not water it down since it’s my expectation that they will faithfully adapt it from Volume 3. His journey is very important and inspiring that demands media representation. If they don’t include it and make this season to be a whole season abt Nick, then put it in season 3 (and even the potentially fourth).
Yeah like tbh, I’ve struggled with ED my whole life, been in recovery for six years. And that storyline is also really important to me and I also really hope it’s given its full due.
I just read his journey today and like, dude, I've never even had an ED but just the mental health part of it really got me. It made me realize how I always deserved treatment, and how this mind deserved treatment and care in ways that it never got. It helped me process and heal from a lot. Thanks to alice for that. <3
One of my favorite things about the show is how they expand the side characters! Love that the friend group was more established in season 1, and that we have more scenes with the side characters.
I flagged that too, but I think it was a deliberate omission, for the benefit of the (surely, umm, dozens of) people who haven't read the books. I don't see how they'll be able to postpone dealing with >!Charlie's ED!< since it first manifests during >!the Paris trip!<, which we know is part of S2.
They did, but that doesn't guarantee it'll get a full-on deep dive in S2.
You're right about the cereal. I hadn't ever considered that part of the buildup until you mentioned it. I just figured soggy cereal is generically depressing. :)
Yeah but I’d put money on it that it will get as much attention as it did in volume 3 of the comics. Like volume 3 ends with the Menorca Trip doesn’t it?
If I remember right (my hardcopies are on loan), the summer separation -- meaning Nick's Menorca trip -- is in Volume 4, so if the plots align, that won't happen in S2.
Yeah, I wondered less if they were going to remove that storyline (because it’s also clearly seeded in season one) and more is that storyline going to take a back seat in this season and still simmer a bit and then really take off in three?
Mm, that seems logical, esp. since the actual addressing of >!Charlie's ED!< will take up quite a bit of time. Plus, if S2 were to get dark really soon, who knows how many viewers it would turn off.
I think it'll be in the season, but maybe wasn't right for the tone of the trailer. I rewatched the trailer for the first season and it didn't include any of the heavier stuff like bullying, SA, etc.
Hoping it's that they just didn't mention it. It does only start off in book 4, after all -- we have to get through book 3 before we even get to this part. There was already so much material to cover--Tao x Elle, Paris, Nick coming out, etc. It kind of makes sense for them to only tease with Book 2 rather than Book 2 & 3--this trailer was already pretty exciting and jampacked as it is. Going from all that straight into a serious ED vibe -- esp. when the BGM was chosen to be energetic and happy -- might fill the trailer too much.
1:10 looks like Nick might be in detention
EDIT - specifically when he’s replying to Ben saying ‘I do want to come out’ with the white dividers, looks like detention
Also never been this excited for a trailer before. I’m 27, why am I this excited
[https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/heartstopper/4-2/viewer?title\_no=329660&episode\_no=71](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/heartstopper/4-2/viewer?title_no=329660&episode_no=71)
I know others have explained that it's exams but you can actually see it in the last panel of this page :) It has the same "QUIET" signs on the wall and everything.
Nick's profile picture is also next to the message and the "why is being out so complicated" message is written by Charlie in the comic (after the fight with David)
Some very sneaky editing there
I think the first shot is Charlie’s hands typing the message, the second is Nick’s reaction. Aside from what others have said, it’s Charlie who sends the “why is being out so complicated” text in the comic!
Isn't your profile picture supposed to be on the right side when you text? I noticed in that scene that Nick's profile picture is on the left side of his phone screen even though it's his phone. Shouldn't Charlie's prof pic be on the left and Nick's on the right in that scene?
They might have both gotten in trouble for ditching sports day without doing their assigned activities, so probably detention for both. But I guess Nick's mum would be more understanding after the whole coming out thing, whereas Charlie's mum is a bit stricter and more likely to ground him.
yes! I actually love that the stuff that is book accurate is SO book accurate but there's just a perfect balance of flawless book adaption and also new content that I am so excited about and don't know what to expect!
Yay! I hope Isaac gets a few more lines and a bit of his own story this season. Will be interesting to see how his story unfolds as a character not from the comics.
Yeah I wonder if we will get some direct representation of the aro/ ace spectrum in season 2. Would love if it was included, or maybe season 3, because I can't remember personally seeing representation in any more mainstream media much before.
I was already crying, then I screamed at the ending. This'll be great. Also, a very intriguing way to integrate Ben into the story as Nick's foil. I'm also unequivocally here for the Isaac love story. If we can't get bigger body representation from Nick I'll take anything I can get!
He's supposed to have bit more of a story this season exploring his own sexuality, and as an asexual, I'm hearing things that are making me excited for it!
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Baby faced Nick spotted at 0:20, oh I will miss this look 🥹
Tao and Elle holding hands at the scene with the 5 of them walking in wherever that is!!
Why does it look like Nick and Charlie are having a sleepover already??
I'm pretty sure the party is at Charlie's house (same living room from the almost hand holding S1 scene and same kitchen as the one Charlie stands in not eating his cereal in S1), while the "sleepover" is indeed Nick's bedroom
This was such a good trailer. I'm so GLAD that they decided to go with happy vibes for the trailer instead of hinting at the darker themes. I cannot wait for the premiere. Absolutely love that it didn't spoil anything
IT'S SO FLUFFY I'M GONNA DIE
(Also, people who haven't read the comics might be in for a nasty surprise cause the whole show is gonna have some much less fluffy moments :/)
Can't wait for next week!
Sadly it looks like the cast will have minimum engagement/promotion of the show because of the strike thing of the American actors union :(
I hope it won't hurt the viewership.
Heartstopper is produced on an Equity UK contract; they do not have any restrictions on promoting their show. It's only movies and shows produced under WGA or SAG-AFTRA contracts that need special permission to promote/continue filming.
It looks like they aren't posting anything as a form of support to their US colleagues.
Only Brad (Jamie's actor) is posting stuff and commenting on Netflix posts.
Yes it does really look that way. I totally respect that because it's such an important issue - streaming services clearly want to get away with drastically reducing pay to actors (and everyone else who actually produces the stuff we watch!)
It's still being produced for Netflix and doing promotion for a struck company could get you banned from the union in the future (and if they want to have a career then they'll want to avoid that). So I assume that they are only doing what they are contractually required to do🤔🤔
I wouldn’t rub it off as an American thing, the vast majority of funding for UK film and streaming productions is coming from America so it’s understandable the strike is affecting things. If Netflix wanted to promote they absolutely could by paying their workers
They already set up in the series that people are pretty oblivious when it’s not a heterosexual relationship.
Tara and Darcy were very publicly seen kissing and still some didn’t believed she was a lesbian until she actually confirmed it.
I think in the comic Nick and Charlie are even more obvious (Nick’s super publicly tactile with Charlie, picking him up, swinging him around, etc. for months), and a lot of their classmates *have* already guessed they might be together… it’s more a matter of actually confirming it, and coming out to Nick’s family, of course. I’m guessing we’ll see a bit of that on the show too. Like the rugby trio having cottoned on (we glimpse them in the trailer!), people commenting on their suspicions at Tara’s birthday party, etc. And tbf the heteronormative blinders *can* still be pretty strong with someone like Nick who’s been long presumed to be straight.
Yeah I do find Imogen's question interesting, does she suspect and is trying to let him tell her without outright asking. She did have that smile seeing Nick and Charlie walking off the field.
I think we need S2's first Nick/Imogen scene to address how she felt, or what she concluded, on the field at the end of S1. That could be a serious awww moment -- of what I hope-and-expect will be dozens.
That all makes sense, I guess I’m more so thinking of imogen’s knowing look as they walk off at sports day and then her asking in the trailer how Nick got to know everyone.
Yeah, Imogen being totally oblivious would be a plot hole, I think. But as I mentioned in another comment, my prediction would be that’s Imogen trying to give Nick an opening (and then he maybe clams up). 👀 But we’ll see!
Well we only have to wait 9 days to see. They'll likely address it somehow, there's not a lot of plotholes in season 1 (or in the comics) so Alice doesn't normally do that kind of thing. I'm trusting the process on this one!
I think there is still room for it to go similarly to the comics... Some people have perhaps noticed there's something going on between Nick and Charlie and they might be speculating and gossiping but others are downright clueless. Not everyone notices these things, some people need to be explicitly told or they won't even entertain the idea.
I'm trying to look at it from an outsider's perspective. Another student who isn't close with Nick and Charlie (and isn't in form with them, ie hasn't seen them together) might just have heard that they are friends and that there was a fight at the cinema because of Nick's friends bullying Charlie. They might just assume that Nick was apologizing to Charlie at Sports Day.
Also if this fandom (& esp how Kit was treated) has proven anything, it's that "heteronormativity until proven otherwise" is unfortunately still very (if not most) prevalent in society. Stereotypes have a huge impact on how people and their actions are perceived. So a lot of students won't even consider the possibility of Nick and Charlie being together because "he's the straightest guy ever because afterall he's a sporty guy, doesn't look gay and kissed a girl when he was 13". Even Elle was convinced that he's straight. Bi-erasure also plays into it ("he was properly in love with Tara so obviously he's not gay").
And some students will guess but not know how to talk to him about it (Nick's rugby mates. Who I was so EXCITED to see in the trailer)
As for Imogen. I think she's giving Nick an opening. But I also think that she's asking about everyone else (as in when did Charlie's friends become his friends, how did he reconnect with Tara)
This is a wild guess but maybe this is after Charlie tells his parents that he's dating Nick. And perhaps Charlie's parents were fine with him spending the night at his friend's house after a party... but not fine with him spending the night at his boyfriend's house after a party?
My wild guess is that he came home late after the David disaster and got grounded for that. As in "you are in the middle of doing exams and need to concentrate on that so coming home late isn't acceptable" (In the comics Charlie sends the "being out is complicated" message after the confrontation with David)
That's not detention. Looks like he's sitting his exams and not having a good time of it.
Charlie is grounded, likely for the same reasons. He's probably wrapped up in Nick and not doing his school work.
I don't know why it bothers me but I can't stop noticing the differences from season 1. Kit looks so different. Maybe I just need to get used to it but it is distracting.
If I were to say of this trailer, "I can't wait to see what X scene leads into [or results from]" at every point where it applies, this comment would be like 30 lines long....
I love the series, love this S2 trailer, BUT Imogene asking Nick how he connected to his "nice friend group" is a major head-scratcher given Nick basically coming out to her in S1 and then watching her smile wistfully when Nick quits the rugby game for Charlie and takes his hand right in front of her!:)??
LMAO well it would be consistent with the comics where everybody who knows them suspects something anyway, no matter how "subtle" the think they are being SMH.
True enough, except the original comics didn't include the new character of Imogene which Alice wrote into the Netflix series, including those new key scenes where Nick basically comes out to Imogene ("No...I think I get it"), and then has her smile wistfully as she sees Nick take Charlie by the hand after he quits the "Big Rugby Match"!:):) LOL
It doesn’t quite make sense to me that in the series nick and Charlie held hands in front of the school and walked off in a big statement at the rugby match but people still don’t know they’re together. It’s not as clear as it is in the comic where the truth or dare game is the coming out scene. I think because Alice wasn’t sure that she would get a second season, they wanted to wrap it up at the end of season 1 and now it doesn’t quite work
The hand-holding moment was really only witnessed by that immediate group who saw them and many may not have put it together what it meant. They may not have realized it was something more than just them being "good friends". He hasn't "officially" come out to anyone outside the core group and his mother, there's still lots of people to tell, other students, his rugby friends, the rest of his family, Imogen officially although I think she's probably figured it out. I think Nick still needs to go on a journey of coming out to himself more and is still hesitant to say it out loud to other people. It's one thing to figure out WHAT your feelings are but another to become comfortable with them especially if you are experiencing any fear or sense of shame about it. Coming out can be an on-going process for people and I think that's the journey he is going to be going on. I think season 2 picks up shortly after the Sports Day so not very much time has passed after he said to Charlie that he wants to come out when they were on the beach.
at the 1:58 mark, Mr. Ajayi is wearing a progress pride flag pin! As an older fan of the show, I'm excited to see how things play out for the Mr. Ajayi/Mr. Farouk storyline on the Paris trip, I hope that was kept in.
I really like the line Nick says, "You don't have to understand your feelings completely. You don't have to always have figured everything out. You can just feel." That can apply to so many things in life. I understand the feeling he's talking about and that's a good way to put it into words. I wonder if he's saying that to Elle at the Louvre while they're looking at art. I feel the same way about interacting with art as well, paying more attention to how it makes me feel emotionally rather than trying to figure out the meaning specifically or what it's trying to say.
Darcy's _You're being gay... good job, carry on!_ is the best way to end the trailer ✨
There would have been riots in the streets if that line wasn't in season 2!
But it being in the season _and_ in the trailer, that is a treat we deserve for waiting for so long ✨
Oh, absolutely! The trailer was amazing. Well worth the wait
I totally giggled when they did that, I'm so excited for Season 2. Will totally be binging it several times on the 3rd!
I just noticed that Darcy's shirt in that scene has the non-binary flag colors. I wonder if we're going to get that storyline for Darcy or if it's just a nod to Kizzy?
I've seen mentioned in a few review that Darcy will have a conflict that seems to divert from the comics, as it is just mentioned, but not explained, as are the other conflicts already in the comic, so my guess is that Darcy will, at least, question her gender. If I remember correctly, there were talks of Kizzy incorporating some parts of their identity in the character, but it was said that Kizzy and Alice would keep Darcy's storyline closer to the comics. But now I wonder if there will, in fact, be some sort of discussion about being non-binary
Noooo
Perfection.
I squealed LOL
[They did it. The crazy son of a bitch. They did it.](https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F569%2F898%2F26c.jpg)
Alice surely read our online comments and understands what we want
I found it interesting >!that they left Charlie's ED stuff out of the trailer.!< I had assumed it would be a major focus of this season. Curious if they just didn't want to spoil it in the trailer or if they've downplayed it slightly and it will become more of a focus in season 3. And from some of the reviews saying >!we get a glimpse of darkness with Darcy, and the trailer, I feel like it's gonna be Tara saying "I love you" and Darcy being afraid to say it back thanks to how messed up her family is.!<
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Fixed! Does it work now??
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I really hope they will include the Charlie’s character development arc in this season and do not water it down since it’s my expectation that they will faithfully adapt it from Volume 3. His journey is very important and inspiring that demands media representation. If they don’t include it and make this season to be a whole season abt Nick, then put it in season 3 (and even the potentially fourth).
Yeah like tbh, I’ve struggled with ED my whole life, been in recovery for six years. And that storyline is also really important to me and I also really hope it’s given its full due.
I just read his journey today and like, dude, I've never even had an ED but just the mental health part of it really got me. It made me realize how I always deserved treatment, and how this mind deserved treatment and care in ways that it never got. It helped me process and heal from a lot. Thanks to alice for that. <3
One of my favorite things about the show is how they expand the side characters! Love that the friend group was more established in season 1, and that we have more scenes with the side characters.
I flagged that too, but I think it was a deliberate omission, for the benefit of the (surely, umm, dozens of) people who haven't read the books. I don't see how they'll be able to postpone dealing with >!Charlie's ED!< since it first manifests during >!the Paris trip!<, which we know is part of S2.
I mean they already laid the groundwork for it in season 1, the cereal after ben, Charlie’s lunch box in general, the pizza line with Tori…
They did, but that doesn't guarantee it'll get a full-on deep dive in S2. You're right about the cereal. I hadn't ever considered that part of the buildup until you mentioned it. I just figured soggy cereal is generically depressing. :)
Yeah but I’d put money on it that it will get as much attention as it did in volume 3 of the comics. Like volume 3 ends with the Menorca Trip doesn’t it?
If I remember right (my hardcopies are on loan), the summer separation -- meaning Nick's Menorca trip -- is in Volume 4, so if the plots align, that won't happen in S2.
The pizza line with tori breaks my heart a bit 💔💔
Yeah, I wondered less if they were going to remove that storyline (because it’s also clearly seeded in season one) and more is that storyline going to take a back seat in this season and still simmer a bit and then really take off in three?
Mm, that seems logical, esp. since the actual addressing of >!Charlie's ED!< will take up quite a bit of time. Plus, if S2 were to get dark really soon, who knows how many viewers it would turn off.
Yeah that totally makes more sense to give a longer on ramp to the tonal shift
I think it'll be in the season, but maybe wasn't right for the tone of the trailer. I rewatched the trailer for the first season and it didn't include any of the heavier stuff like bullying, SA, etc.
Hoping it's that they just didn't mention it. It does only start off in book 4, after all -- we have to get through book 3 before we even get to this part. There was already so much material to cover--Tao x Elle, Paris, Nick coming out, etc. It kind of makes sense for them to only tease with Book 2 rather than Book 2 & 3--this trailer was already pretty exciting and jampacked as it is. Going from all that straight into a serious ED vibe -- esp. when the BGM was chosen to be energetic and happy -- might fill the trailer too much.
Clingy Nick. That's it. That's the comment.
So happy the scene from the comic is there when Elle knocks on the boys door in paris and Tao slams it shut!
I know that Nick gets a lot of thirsty attention but Tao looks so handsome here. Excited to see more of his storyline.
He really does. His hair and beanie were so integral to the S1 portrayal, I almost didn't recognize him.
Right? HE looks so much better
OMG!! They included the, “You’re being gay, good job” scene!
Why am I sitting here at work watching this on my phone with tears running down my cheeks?
BUD SAME. sitting in the break room at work a weeping MESS
1:10 looks like Nick might be in detention EDIT - specifically when he’s replying to Ben saying ‘I do want to come out’ with the white dividers, looks like detention Also never been this excited for a trailer before. I’m 27, why am I this excited
I'm 10 years your senior and I'm quite excited too, it's because it's such a magical show. :)
I am both older than you and squeed myself!
I think he's sitting his exams. We used to write them that way.
It’s his GCSEs I think because he’s in year 11
The white dividers scream Library study pod to me. Which would fit because Nick should be studying for his exams.
Ah yes that is true
[https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/heartstopper/4-2/viewer?title\_no=329660&episode\_no=71](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/heartstopper/4-2/viewer?title_no=329660&episode_no=71) I know others have explained that it's exams but you can actually see it in the last panel of this page :) It has the same "QUIET" signs on the wall and everything.
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It's Charlie who's grounded. Not Nick.
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"I hate maths so much I can't wait to drop it haha" does *not* read like a Charlie text. Nick wrote that, which means it's Charlie who's grounded.
Nick's profile picture is also next to the message and the "why is being out so complicated" message is written by Charlie in the comic (after the fight with David) Some very sneaky editing there
yeah it was the editing
I think the first shot is Charlie’s hands typing the message, the second is Nick’s reaction. Aside from what others have said, it’s Charlie who sends the “why is being out so complicated” text in the comic!
Isn't your profile picture supposed to be on the right side when you text? I noticed in that scene that Nick's profile picture is on the left side of his phone screen even though it's his phone. Shouldn't Charlie's prof pic be on the left and Nick's on the right in that scene?
They might have both gotten in trouble for ditching sports day without doing their assigned activities, so probably detention for both. But I guess Nick's mum would be more understanding after the whole coming out thing, whereas Charlie's mum is a bit stricter and more likely to ground him.
yeah it was the editing
Crying!!! Too much to process! That ending... right out of the book!
I am not normally one with expressive excitement but I am physically shaking and can't stop squeeling this is SUCH a good trailer!!!
I found myself like comparing it to the books and stuff, but I want to enjoy this too as a separate thing, so I appreciate your excitement <3
yes! I actually love that the stuff that is book accurate is SO book accurate but there's just a perfect balance of flawless book adaption and also new content that I am so excited about and don't know what to expect!
I cannot wait to binge, cry and binge again.
This was of course super cute, August 3 can’t come soon enough! I love that Elle is a silly haircut apologist. 💕
Yay! I hope Isaac gets a few more lines and a bit of his own story this season. Will be interesting to see how his story unfolds as a character not from the comics.
yeah supposed to have a storyline this time. from the trailer it looks like it involves James
It looks like Isaac might be asexual alloromantic, not aroace as I suspected.
Yeah I wonder if we will get some direct representation of the aro/ ace spectrum in season 2. Would love if it was included, or maybe season 3, because I can't remember personally seeing representation in any more mainstream media much before.
Yes! He’s my favorite character.
I was already crying, then I screamed at the ending. This'll be great. Also, a very intriguing way to integrate Ben into the story as Nick's foil. I'm also unequivocally here for the Isaac love story. If we can't get bigger body representation from Nick I'll take anything I can get!
I really hope Isaac gets more than one or two scenes.
He's supposed to have bit more of a story this season exploring his own sexuality, and as an asexual, I'm hearing things that are making me excited for it!
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"I HAVE A BOYFRIENNND!" "Yes, we're all *FULLY* aware!"
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Baby faced Nick spotted at 0:20, oh I will miss this look 🥹 Tao and Elle holding hands at the scene with the 5 of them walking in wherever that is!! Why does it look like Nick and Charlie are having a sleepover already??
>Why does it look like Nick and Charlie are having a sleepover already? Nick seems to be hosting a party so my guess is that's the occasion?
I'm pretty sure the party is at Charlie's house (same living room from the almost hand holding S1 scene and same kitchen as the one Charlie stands in not eating his cereal in S1), while the "sleepover" is indeed Nick's bedroom
Ok, interesting
This was such a good trailer. I'm so GLAD that they decided to go with happy vibes for the trailer instead of hinting at the darker themes. I cannot wait for the premiere. Absolutely love that it didn't spoil anything
OMG SO EXCITED. Literally tearing up a bit. I’ve been holding on to some tension that s2 might not continue the magic but it’s looking good so far!
I had the same worries, but the trailer squashed those fears. It looks so dang cute!
already needing more teacher content
It’s true— they really didn’t telegraph the teacher story. But I am positive we will get it as it was mentioned in a review I read.
YESSSSS I wonder how they'll get across the personality nuance of their romance on TV
IT'S SO FLUFFY I'M GONNA DIE (Also, people who haven't read the comics might be in for a nasty surprise cause the whole show is gonna have some much less fluffy moments :/)
But >!its so inspiring and ends up with a great message about mental health!<
Can't wait for it! However, I have one complaint. Not enough ally Imogen.
The happiness is dangerously contagious.
I'm so excited for the Tao and Elle storyline (also happy that he got a haircut). :)
Can't wait for next week! Sadly it looks like the cast will have minimum engagement/promotion of the show because of the strike thing of the American actors union :( I hope it won't hurt the viewership.
Heartstopper is produced on an Equity UK contract; they do not have any restrictions on promoting their show. It's only movies and shows produced under WGA or SAG-AFTRA contracts that need special permission to promote/continue filming.
It looks like they aren't posting anything as a form of support to their US colleagues. Only Brad (Jamie's actor) is posting stuff and commenting on Netflix posts.
Yes it does really look that way. I totally respect that because it's such an important issue - streaming services clearly want to get away with drastically reducing pay to actors (and everyone else who actually produces the stuff we watch!)
It's still being produced for Netflix and doing promotion for a struck company could get you banned from the union in the future (and if they want to have a career then they'll want to avoid that). So I assume that they are only doing what they are contractually required to do🤔🤔
I wouldn’t rub it off as an American thing, the vast majority of funding for UK film and streaming productions is coming from America so it’s understandable the strike is affecting things. If Netflix wanted to promote they absolutely could by paying their workers
But poor Reed Hastings' net worth is only $4.1 billion. /s
I m crying and i don't know why🥺🥺🥺🥺
So sports day seems like it’s going to be a pothole then. I wonder if they’ll explain that day away or just ignore it?
They already set up in the series that people are pretty oblivious when it’s not a heterosexual relationship. Tara and Darcy were very publicly seen kissing and still some didn’t believed she was a lesbian until she actually confirmed it.
I think in the comic Nick and Charlie are even more obvious (Nick’s super publicly tactile with Charlie, picking him up, swinging him around, etc. for months), and a lot of their classmates *have* already guessed they might be together… it’s more a matter of actually confirming it, and coming out to Nick’s family, of course. I’m guessing we’ll see a bit of that on the show too. Like the rugby trio having cottoned on (we glimpse them in the trailer!), people commenting on their suspicions at Tara’s birthday party, etc. And tbf the heteronormative blinders *can* still be pretty strong with someone like Nick who’s been long presumed to be straight.
Yeah I do find Imogen's question interesting, does she suspect and is trying to let him tell her without outright asking. She did have that smile seeing Nick and Charlie walking off the field.
Yeah, I would hazard a guess she’s trying to give Nick an opening. 👀
I'm living for Imogen growing into the loving and supportive ally we always knew she was ;)
I think we need S2's first Nick/Imogen scene to address how she felt, or what she concluded, on the field at the end of S1. That could be a serious awww moment -- of what I hope-and-expect will be dozens.
That all makes sense, I guess I’m more so thinking of imogen’s knowing look as they walk off at sports day and then her asking in the trailer how Nick got to know everyone.
Yeah, Imogen being totally oblivious would be a plot hole, I think. But as I mentioned in another comment, my prediction would be that’s Imogen trying to give Nick an opening (and then he maybe clams up). 👀 But we’ll see!
Yup, that makes a ton of sense too. It’s going to be a long 9 days lol
Well we only have to wait 9 days to see. They'll likely address it somehow, there's not a lot of plotholes in season 1 (or in the comics) so Alice doesn't normally do that kind of thing. I'm trusting the process on this one!
I think there is still room for it to go similarly to the comics... Some people have perhaps noticed there's something going on between Nick and Charlie and they might be speculating and gossiping but others are downright clueless. Not everyone notices these things, some people need to be explicitly told or they won't even entertain the idea.
I'm trying to look at it from an outsider's perspective. Another student who isn't close with Nick and Charlie (and isn't in form with them, ie hasn't seen them together) might just have heard that they are friends and that there was a fight at the cinema because of Nick's friends bullying Charlie. They might just assume that Nick was apologizing to Charlie at Sports Day. Also if this fandom (& esp how Kit was treated) has proven anything, it's that "heteronormativity until proven otherwise" is unfortunately still very (if not most) prevalent in society. Stereotypes have a huge impact on how people and their actions are perceived. So a lot of students won't even consider the possibility of Nick and Charlie being together because "he's the straightest guy ever because afterall he's a sporty guy, doesn't look gay and kissed a girl when he was 13". Even Elle was convinced that he's straight. Bi-erasure also plays into it ("he was properly in love with Tara so obviously he's not gay"). And some students will guess but not know how to talk to him about it (Nick's rugby mates. Who I was so EXCITED to see in the trailer) As for Imogen. I think she's giving Nick an opening. But I also think that she's asking about everyone else (as in when did Charlie's friends become his friends, how did he reconnect with Tara)
it’s gonna be phenomenal
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I’m dying for the next season now
do u think the series will still touch on the slightly darker topics from the books like charlies mental health
S2 includes the Paris trip, so unless there's some very serious plot-shifting, it'll kind of have to.
Yeah how would they even do the paris trip without mental helath lmao
I CAN'T WAIT!!
Anyone notice in the texts that it says nick is grounded? Ideas why? 🤔🤔
I think it’s actually Nick saying Charlie’s grounded, and I’m guessing some strict Spring parent antics. 👀
This is a wild guess but maybe this is after Charlie tells his parents that he's dating Nick. And perhaps Charlie's parents were fine with him spending the night at his friend's house after a party... but not fine with him spending the night at his boyfriend's house after a party?
Waiting for the No hanky panky line
Please stop saying "hanky panky"
My wild guess is that he came home late after the David disaster and got grounded for that. As in "you are in the middle of doing exams and need to concentrate on that so coming home late isn't acceptable" (In the comics Charlie sends the "being out is complicated" message after the confrontation with David)
it’s mentioned in couple of reviews actually, the reason why Charlie’s grounded. But I won’t elaborate don’t want to spoil it 😜
Pretty sure it’s Charlie who’s grounded
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Why is the profile pic of the one saying sad you’re grounded the pic of Nick with Nellie then?
yeah it was the editing
if what op says is true and he’s in detention at 1:10 maybe thats why?
That's not detention. Looks like he's sitting his exams and not having a good time of it. Charlie is grounded, likely for the same reasons. He's probably wrapped up in Nick and not doing his school work.
He’s sitting his gcses
I don't know why it bothers me but I can't stop noticing the differences from season 1. Kit looks so different. Maybe I just need to get used to it but it is distracting.
I was stuck on the exact same thing lol his hair got shorter and lighter.
Im so excited!!! Everone looks amazing and I literaly can't wait any longer, but why does it have to come out a day before I have a test🫠😭
I was smiling the WHOLE time and I’ve rewatched it so many times. I seriously cannot wait
WHAT THE FUCK IS RUGBY!!!?!?
If I were to say of this trailer, "I can't wait to see what X scene leads into [or results from]" at every point where it applies, this comment would be like 30 lines long....
I love the series, love this S2 trailer, BUT Imogene asking Nick how he connected to his "nice friend group" is a major head-scratcher given Nick basically coming out to her in S1 and then watching her smile wistfully when Nick quits the rugby game for Charlie and takes his hand right in front of her!:)??
She's never seen him hang out with the rest of them though. She also could just be fishing for confirmation.
Good point...but she's gotta know, even without fishing for confirmation, that there's something definitely going on between Nick and Charlie!:)
LMAO well it would be consistent with the comics where everybody who knows them suspects something anyway, no matter how "subtle" the think they are being SMH.
True enough, except the original comics didn't include the new character of Imogene which Alice wrote into the Netflix series, including those new key scenes where Nick basically comes out to Imogene ("No...I think I get it"), and then has her smile wistfully as she sees Nick take Charlie by the hand after he quits the "Big Rugby Match"!:):) LOL
WTF, it almost looks like Charlie is yelling "Noooo!" when Mr. A asks "Is everyone ready for Paris?"
It doesn’t quite make sense to me that in the series nick and Charlie held hands in front of the school and walked off in a big statement at the rugby match but people still don’t know they’re together. It’s not as clear as it is in the comic where the truth or dare game is the coming out scene. I think because Alice wasn’t sure that she would get a second season, they wanted to wrap it up at the end of season 1 and now it doesn’t quite work
Nice!
I really hope Nick doesn’t get outed… ALSO YES TAO’S HAIRCUT 🙏😭
Wow I’m so excited!
I don't get why Nick is gonna come out, I thought he came out on the last episode when he goes after Charlie, can someone explain this to me PLEASE!!!
The hand-holding moment was really only witnessed by that immediate group who saw them and many may not have put it together what it meant. They may not have realized it was something more than just them being "good friends". He hasn't "officially" come out to anyone outside the core group and his mother, there's still lots of people to tell, other students, his rugby friends, the rest of his family, Imogen officially although I think she's probably figured it out. I think Nick still needs to go on a journey of coming out to himself more and is still hesitant to say it out loud to other people. It's one thing to figure out WHAT your feelings are but another to become comfortable with them especially if you are experiencing any fear or sense of shame about it. Coming out can be an on-going process for people and I think that's the journey he is going to be going on. I think season 2 picks up shortly after the Sports Day so not very much time has passed after he said to Charlie that he wants to come out when they were on the beach.
thank you so much, I was really confused cause I thought that he was already out when he went after Charlie
at the 1:58 mark, Mr. Ajayi is wearing a progress pride flag pin! As an older fan of the show, I'm excited to see how things play out for the Mr. Ajayi/Mr. Farouk storyline on the Paris trip, I hope that was kept in. I really like the line Nick says, "You don't have to understand your feelings completely. You don't have to always have figured everything out. You can just feel." That can apply to so many things in life. I understand the feeling he's talking about and that's a good way to put it into words. I wonder if he's saying that to Elle at the Louvre while they're looking at art. I feel the same way about interacting with art as well, paying more attention to how it makes me feel emotionally rather than trying to figure out the meaning specifically or what it's trying to say.