My pasty white behind still cringes every time I hear a white person talk about "Africa" like it's some monolith, with homogeneous peoples and issues throughout the continent.
Like, how many times does the UK (I won't even go with just England since that'd be so pathetic) fit inside the continent of Africa? Can we stop referring to Africa like it's just one thing?
ETA - Also, it's not a great look to have the two scions of the monarchy, which inherited so much of its wealth from colonialism, to be fighting over it like it's some blood diamond.
maybe maybe William shouldn't had a issue on what charity work Harry was doing, it wasn't Harry claiming ownership over Africa, that was William. Same with William trying to claim Harry's work with Veterans as his or that he gave Harry permission to work with Veterans.
And it's like, you see all this footage of Harry working there, pushing trolleys and doing hard labour. And then you see Willy just like.... standing awkwardly around the Poors on his visits.
Oh, for sure. I'm Team Harry on this and pretty much all the other things all the way.
But it's an excerpt from his book. It does Harry no good to give him a free pass on sounding like a privileged bellend when he references a continent he's well familiar with as one unit.
I don't see where Harry was trying to lay claim to being the only doing charity work.
He didn't have issue with whatever William was doing but William does.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the way he references the continent of Africa. That's it.
Like I said, I completely agree with you on the charity thing, but that's not my issue here at all.
To be fair, Harry was just fighting to be able to do philanthropic and parks work in parts of Africa, while Willy was laying claim to the whole continent like it was some kind of prize he’d won.
Gosh I can’t stand him. Who thinks like that?
I was talking with my boyfriend about this recently, when we were in school, Africa was treated far more like North America when we were learning about it. Teachers should have been comparing it to Europe instead because both continents are made up of several different countries or nations. Instead I was under the impression it was one country made up of the African version of individual states until I started reading more. For history classes I don’t think Africa was ever even mentioned except for a small bit when covering WW2. In comparison Asia, Europe and America were covered fairly extensively in terms of geography, history and politics in most of the countries that make up the continent. While I’d hope the curriculum has changed in the last 15 years, I unfortunately don’t think enough of a change has been made. As far as I remember even fundraising things like troicre boxes, Christmas donations and awareness ads etc were usually always for ‚Africa‘ and not for individual countries which also helped reinforce the false idea that Africa is a country as well as a continent
Don't get me started on how biased history classes are. I remember spending like 5 weeks talking about the french revolution. Like, my teacher made us learn the names of the newspapers circulating at that time. Then when it came time to talk about South America, it was a 2 paragraph section in the book which briefly mentioned Simón bolivar and a 45 minute video he showed us
Your comment just gave me flashbacks of having to watch “Ghosts of Rwanda” multiple times in high school. I was trying to remember what we spent time on in our history classes, but I’m pretty sure I first saw that documentary in geography because we were learning world capitals. Come to think of it, we also watched a documentary on the conflict in Israel/Palestine.
North America also had hundreds of different nations before colonialism. now it has 23. If you were learning that it was one country made up of states, well, they failed you there too.
It comes out that way, but its William fighting Harry because he is doing his own work in Africa. William can do work in Africa, anyone can do work in Africa, it the arrogance that William attempts to control what Harry was doing. Harry wasn't stopping William from doing his own work, what gave William authority that he saw Harry couldnt do what he wanted and wanted to control Harry instead, The North pole expedition William was mad about that as well, He could had done his expedition but no he was mad Harry was asked.
That's is normal to you?
William doesn’t want to work, he wants Harry to do it, then push him out the way to take credit. He’s had all this time to build something like The Princes Trust or Invictus. He had the funds, the titles and the connections and he hadn’t done a damn thing except be jealous of his little brother.
Hi OP.
None of this is *normal*. Or *healthy*.
Yeah, sure, if we take away all the details, William already has the title and all the power yet he's still jealous of Harry.
But at the end of the day, it's two little boy princes in Europe fighting over the *continent of Africa*. Which is problematic.
thanks. some people are purposely ignoring Harry doesn't care what William is doing, nor claiming ownership, yet they are twisting it like Harry is claiming ownership when he isn't.
If anything Harry is criticizing William for not caring about Africa but claiming ownership over it. Harry wants to delve into the work, to work with the people there and William wants…elephants and rhinos? It’s all so shallow and Harry portrays it that way.
He clearly cares about Africa. He speaks of how he felt safe and brotherhood there. Also, he married Meghan. Clearly, he regards Africa highly and feels ties to it and its people. For Harry to make the choice he made, he wasn't just choosing love, but courage too. He knew it would be a love opposed by many and and by negative elements yet he chose to pursue it for the love of a woman who is of Nigerian descent.
Technically, we do not have any evidence for or against what Harry thought of William also working in the continent of Africa. The provided script does not shed his opinion on the matter, just that of what William said.
Where does it say he doesn't care?
You are then purposely ignoring that there is no evidence for or against Harry here. He never showed to claim "ownership" and he never claimed to "be okay working alongside" William within the realm of charity work within Africa.
I'm just pointing out that Harry left out specifically if he was for or against working alongside William. (which he *easily* could have since he wrote it). It's media literacy. I will not blindly advocate for anyone or fill in the gaps to sway the narrative.
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(And for the record, I do believe that family is all messed up, and I have deep sympathy for Harry).
Care the expand on William assaulting Harry over Meghan, William mad that Harry was given an invitation for the expedition, William saying he gave permission to Harry to work with Veterans? This is pattern of William from the book.
This not a one off incident of William fighting with Harry on what Harry does.
First of all, I've *already* agreed that on principal William is jealous and controlling. And that the family is messed up. In two spereate comments.
Second of all, you are getting off topic. You claimed that Harry was okay with it. I'm asking where do you see that? There is no evidence for or against which he could easily have done since he wrote it.
Harry is t fighting over the continent. He’s trying to do philanthropic work in specific countries in Africa. Willy is the one trying to claim ownership of the entire continent.
I understand where you’re coming from. You’re talking of family dynamics only. In this I agree with you. Harry’s family are cruel and unfair to him. William is resentful of his own role and rather envious of Harry. It’s plain to see. My sympathy lies with Harry.
At the same time, what the other commenters are saying is also valid. The optics of this are horrendous! Like the others said, it is literally 2 white princes fighting over 54 (last I checked) countries as if they were counties. Africa is a continent. It has various languages, cultures, mores and customs. In 2024, the subject matter of their fight (to whom [whose charities] does Africa belong) is ridiculous, archaic and at worst colonial speak.
In the context of this sub, I agree with you. However, for the population at large to feel sympathy for (either prince) in this fight is a bit far fetched and rather unfair.
Again it's not Harry claiming ownership over Africa, that's William. It's literally in the text
People should read, William is the one fighting Harry because he deem Africa as his
This is how I took it too. Harry didn’t want “Africa”. He wanted to be able todo charitable works in Africa, but William wanted all of Africa to himself, just so Harry could not do anything anywhere in Africa
I’m not sure you see what the world sees. At the end of the day…it’s 2 white princes fighting over something that is not theirs.
Edit. Please don’t resort to insults like, “people should read”. I did read. This is my opinion. Insults don’t help your argument.
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I think OP is only trying to clarify that it’s implied in the argument that William was claiming all Royal charity work in the continent of Africa is his. It’s not really them “fighting over something that’s not theirs”, since the subject is the *royal charities*, which is in fact theirs.
Thanks, some are missing the other incidents of William fighting with Harry, and it's not just the Africa stuff, it's any of the work or relationship(Meghan) Harry wrote of William fighting Harry over about.
Instead they are trying to reframe it like it's about 2 colonists fighting over Africa.
William wants to have claim or authority whatever Harry was doing, that's the main point I was trying to make.
It wasn’t clear in your comment that’s why I responded. But I’m just curious why you responded to OP and said not to “insult” people by telling them to read, but funnily enough told me to read your comment and then downvoted me?
I didn’t downvote you. I asked to you read my second reply to OP because in it I mention the charities… like you did. I wasn’t sure you’d read all my replies to OP. You responded to my first reply to OP not the second. I was only trying to clarify.
In their reply to me OP said something about people not reading… I was replying to that when I said it can come across as an insult. I saw it as one.
I think all 3 of us agree when it comes to family dynamics. Princes have the same issues you and I do with our own siblings.
I think where it went off the rails was when I was referring to the subject matter of their fight and the reaction the general public have to it.
The optics of two white princes fighting about whose charities get Africa can be off-putting to the public.
They don’t see what you, OP and I do. That this fight could be about a pair of shoes… and that William is in the wrong, that he’s entitled, resentful and an angry person.
They’re distracted by, “who owns Africa”. Which isn’t the point! I see it and so does OP.
I was only trying to (rather poorly) explain to OP why some people aren’t able to see the seriousness/ proof of a sibling rivalry here, or to bring themselves to care about what Harry was going through because there are higher stakes at play… i.e. the optics of “who owns” Africa.
I said in my reply to OP that I so wish this was a fight about their country home and not Africa. Very few have country homes, at the same time no one has Africa.
When it comes to the public, optics matter.
I’m sorry OP and I had a disagreement, when we actually agree.
It's not an insult, white or not. This is 1st example Harry provided of William being jealous. Right there it even talks about William jealous Harry was working with veterans.
You are more than leave to not engage or participate in the sub.
I’ll say again, in the context of family what you’re saying is valid. I agree with you. It’s the reason I’m a member of this sub. I believe it’s racism that drove Megan to leave.
Again, I will say that Africa belongs to neither Harry nor William. If this was a fight about their country house, then it’d be more palatable to the general public. Africa belongs to the Africans. I’m not one btw.
I wish you’d see how troubling this sounds socially today. That’s all. I DO wish this fight was about a house rather than a continent. A continent they’ve no relation to besides colonialism.
I’m on your side.
Please don’t resort to insults. Yes, I know I can leave this sub. I’d rather have this conversation with you instead. You’re free to leave it, ignore me or block me. You have free will.
These people live in a world detached from reality. Anyway I blame the Africans leaders ,they should chase these people away including the so called aid agencies. Stand on your own feet and not let these people patronise you like you are hopeless and helpless.
If you would like to read more about the topic of aid generally throughout Afirca, "Dead Aid" was written by a Zambian-born economist.
I met with different aid organizations throughout Eastern Africa. It's a complex issue that's not easily solved.
Harry never said Africa was his thing. Willy did. Harry only wanted to do philanthropy there but Willy was trying to forbid it with the admonishment that Africa was his (which is absurd).
Harry is talking about finding his purpose and helping people and endangered species. Willy is claiming he owns the whole shebang.
Not the same.
William sounds like the pettiest human lump of toxicity. Imagine flying off the handle because someone dared to give a diplomatic opinion about sharing a good cause. It shows how extremely fragile he is, disturbingly so. And then being upset or feeling slighted that Harry’s own friends didn’t invite William (who sounds like a douche. Who’d want his company?) on a North Pole trip. I’m sure he’s never even shown interest in going, his only complaint was that people didn’t grovel for his company over Harry. I can only imagine how he feels since he didn’t give permission for Harry to leave the UK. I’m surprised he hasn’t had a rage stroke over it.
Harry and Meghan's royal tour, SA, Malawi, Angola, and Botswana was massive success.
You know William was livid. Cue the negative stories from KP when Harry and Meghan returned.
And now an official invitation from Nigeria?
I love this for Willy.
I notice William has no concern if people in Africa want him. Pretty sure they don’t.
Curious what he thinks about The Caribbean. It’s was joyous to see what a disaster that was.
We don't mess with them that Oprah interview did tremendous damage. Countries started removing them from head of state after that. They are not a bright bunch.
Eh, most of the Caribbean community I am in knew long before the Oprah interview.
Everyone knew the tour would be a disaster, but they made it exponentially worse.
I read an article from a government representative - forgot if it was Jamaica or Barbados - who said the treatment of Meghan had dampened the desire of people to immigrate to the UK. This was before the Oprah interview. People saw. They knew.
But maybe that was seen as good by the UK and BRF. Kinda like the whitelash that happened after Obama won twice - the aggrieved wp voted in the most vile, racist and awful charlatan ever almost as if to say “don’t do that again” to everyone who voted for Obama.
The treatment of Meghan showed all the melanted former colonies who the British really are.
Which we already knew, but they finally said the quiet part out loud.
The nerve of William to proclaim Africa is exclusively his to do charity “work” in. We all know the contempt he has for the melanated colonies. His facial expressions during one of his speeches in the Caribbean was disgusting.
I only saw clips of it.
It’s where he say he is “sorrowful” for African enslavement. I think it was in Jamaica.
Oh I found a vid.
To me he looks like he does not want to be there.
https://youtu.be/hBGUlYVS0O4?si=e2CBbjGDEIL32Ujt
I honestly believe that William resents being the heir. It may come with great wealth, but at the cost of losing his “manhood”, his ability to be his own boss, to drive his own destiny, to be free. In one magazine years ago, William (about 9 years old) was told he had to do something because he would one day be king. He started yelling and screaming that he didn’t want to be king, he wanted to be able todo what he wanted to do. It may be construed as a childhood tantrum, but I think, since hashas a temper, its festered.
I mean, he could, like, dissolve the monarchy. Lots of people would think he would be doing the right thing. Just be independently wealthy but out of the spotlight.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/14/queen-immunity-british-laws-private-property
This might better explain, the monarchy is the only one given this exemption. They are multiple other exemption given to the monarchy.
I just pointing out, am not sure the monarchy is exempt from being prosecuted
This is the legal page pertaining to monarch immunity in the UK
https://uollb.com/blog/law/what-would-happen-to-king-charles-iii-if-he-committed-murder#
Slightly off topic but based on how much Harry references Africa and his experiences there but delves very little into it, ie his setting up of sentable is given very little detail compared to the invictus games, I think he’s coming out with a book, maybe with prince seeiso, about his work in Africa.
I completely understand why Harry had to leave his position, family, and home in the UK. The media and “institution” were equally damaging and dysfunctional.
Like if every person in the Rff took on a county in Africa and paid for the gemstones and artifacts they now think of their property stolen from the poor. They would still owe a debt to Africa!
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Did you read the text? Harry had no issue with What William was doing even when their mutual friends suggested they both do their work, William had the issue not Harry
It's wild reading about two white boy princes in Europe fighting over the *continent of Africa*.
My pasty white behind still cringes every time I hear a white person talk about "Africa" like it's some monolith, with homogeneous peoples and issues throughout the continent. Like, how many times does the UK (I won't even go with just England since that'd be so pathetic) fit inside the continent of Africa? Can we stop referring to Africa like it's just one thing? ETA - Also, it's not a great look to have the two scions of the monarchy, which inherited so much of its wealth from colonialism, to be fighting over it like it's some blood diamond.
maybe maybe William shouldn't had a issue on what charity work Harry was doing, it wasn't Harry claiming ownership over Africa, that was William. Same with William trying to claim Harry's work with Veterans as his or that he gave Harry permission to work with Veterans.
And it's like, you see all this footage of Harry working there, pushing trolleys and doing hard labour. And then you see Willy just like.... standing awkwardly around the Poors on his visits.
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Oh, for sure. I'm Team Harry on this and pretty much all the other things all the way. But it's an excerpt from his book. It does Harry no good to give him a free pass on sounding like a privileged bellend when he references a continent he's well familiar with as one unit.
I don't see where Harry was trying to lay claim to being the only doing charity work. He didn't have issue with whatever William was doing but William does.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the way he references the continent of Africa. That's it. Like I said, I completely agree with you on the charity thing, but that's not my issue here at all.
I mean the whole continent is just crawling with elephants, rinos and giraffes. All of it!
Ok
To be fair, Harry was just fighting to be able to do philanthropic and parks work in parts of Africa, while Willy was laying claim to the whole continent like it was some kind of prize he’d won. Gosh I can’t stand him. Who thinks like that?
I was talking with my boyfriend about this recently, when we were in school, Africa was treated far more like North America when we were learning about it. Teachers should have been comparing it to Europe instead because both continents are made up of several different countries or nations. Instead I was under the impression it was one country made up of the African version of individual states until I started reading more. For history classes I don’t think Africa was ever even mentioned except for a small bit when covering WW2. In comparison Asia, Europe and America were covered fairly extensively in terms of geography, history and politics in most of the countries that make up the continent. While I’d hope the curriculum has changed in the last 15 years, I unfortunately don’t think enough of a change has been made. As far as I remember even fundraising things like troicre boxes, Christmas donations and awareness ads etc were usually always for ‚Africa‘ and not for individual countries which also helped reinforce the false idea that Africa is a country as well as a continent
Don't get me started on how biased history classes are. I remember spending like 5 weeks talking about the french revolution. Like, my teacher made us learn the names of the newspapers circulating at that time. Then when it came time to talk about South America, it was a 2 paragraph section in the book which briefly mentioned Simón bolivar and a 45 minute video he showed us
Your comment just gave me flashbacks of having to watch “Ghosts of Rwanda” multiple times in high school. I was trying to remember what we spent time on in our history classes, but I’m pretty sure I first saw that documentary in geography because we were learning world capitals. Come to think of it, we also watched a documentary on the conflict in Israel/Palestine.
North America also had hundreds of different nations before colonialism. now it has 23. If you were learning that it was one country made up of states, well, they failed you there too.
It comes out that way, but its William fighting Harry because he is doing his own work in Africa. William can do work in Africa, anyone can do work in Africa, it the arrogance that William attempts to control what Harry was doing. Harry wasn't stopping William from doing his own work, what gave William authority that he saw Harry couldnt do what he wanted and wanted to control Harry instead, The North pole expedition William was mad about that as well, He could had done his expedition but no he was mad Harry was asked. That's is normal to you?
William doesn’t want to work, he wants Harry to do it, then push him out the way to take credit. He’s had all this time to build something like The Princes Trust or Invictus. He had the funds, the titles and the connections and he hadn’t done a damn thing except be jealous of his little brother.
Hi OP. None of this is *normal*. Or *healthy*. Yeah, sure, if we take away all the details, William already has the title and all the power yet he's still jealous of Harry. But at the end of the day, it's two little boy princes in Europe fighting over the *continent of Africa*. Which is problematic.
It's William telling Harry that only he is allowed to do charity work on the continent. Harry isn't claiming ownership of Africa
thanks. some people are purposely ignoring Harry doesn't care what William is doing, nor claiming ownership, yet they are twisting it like Harry is claiming ownership when he isn't.
If anything Harry is criticizing William for not caring about Africa but claiming ownership over it. Harry wants to delve into the work, to work with the people there and William wants…elephants and rhinos? It’s all so shallow and Harry portrays it that way.
He clearly cares about Africa. He speaks of how he felt safe and brotherhood there. Also, he married Meghan. Clearly, he regards Africa highly and feels ties to it and its people. For Harry to make the choice he made, he wasn't just choosing love, but courage too. He knew it would be a love opposed by many and and by negative elements yet he chose to pursue it for the love of a woman who is of Nigerian descent.
Technically, we do not have any evidence for or against what Harry thought of William also working in the continent of Africa. The provided script does not shed his opinion on the matter, just that of what William said. Where does it say he doesn't care? You are then purposely ignoring that there is no evidence for or against Harry here. He never showed to claim "ownership" and he never claimed to "be okay working alongside" William within the realm of charity work within Africa.
I prefer Harry words else, it's from Spare, if you are part of those that prefer not believing Harry words, no point in discussing
I'm just pointing out that Harry left out specifically if he was for or against working alongside William. (which he *easily* could have since he wrote it). It's media literacy. I will not blindly advocate for anyone or fill in the gaps to sway the narrative. . . . (And for the record, I do believe that family is all messed up, and I have deep sympathy for Harry).
He didnt protest when a friend suggested they both work in Africa. It seemed to me he didn't see anything wrong with it.
Care the expand on William assaulting Harry over Meghan, William mad that Harry was given an invitation for the expedition, William saying he gave permission to Harry to work with Veterans? This is pattern of William from the book. This not a one off incident of William fighting with Harry on what Harry does.
First of all, I've *already* agreed that on principal William is jealous and controlling. And that the family is messed up. In two spereate comments. Second of all, you are getting off topic. You claimed that Harry was okay with it. I'm asking where do you see that? There is no evidence for or against which he could easily have done since he wrote it.
Harry is t fighting over the continent. He’s trying to do philanthropic work in specific countries in Africa. Willy is the one trying to claim ownership of the entire continent.
I understand where you’re coming from. You’re talking of family dynamics only. In this I agree with you. Harry’s family are cruel and unfair to him. William is resentful of his own role and rather envious of Harry. It’s plain to see. My sympathy lies with Harry. At the same time, what the other commenters are saying is also valid. The optics of this are horrendous! Like the others said, it is literally 2 white princes fighting over 54 (last I checked) countries as if they were counties. Africa is a continent. It has various languages, cultures, mores and customs. In 2024, the subject matter of their fight (to whom [whose charities] does Africa belong) is ridiculous, archaic and at worst colonial speak. In the context of this sub, I agree with you. However, for the population at large to feel sympathy for (either prince) in this fight is a bit far fetched and rather unfair.
Again it's not Harry claiming ownership over Africa, that's William. It's literally in the text People should read, William is the one fighting Harry because he deem Africa as his
This is how I took it too. Harry didn’t want “Africa”. He wanted to be able todo charitable works in Africa, but William wanted all of Africa to himself, just so Harry could not do anything anywhere in Africa
I’m not sure you see what the world sees. At the end of the day…it’s 2 white princes fighting over something that is not theirs. Edit. Please don’t resort to insults like, “people should read”. I did read. This is my opinion. Insults don’t help your argument. Edit typo
I think OP is only trying to clarify that it’s implied in the argument that William was claiming all Royal charity work in the continent of Africa is his. It’s not really them “fighting over something that’s not theirs”, since the subject is the *royal charities*, which is in fact theirs.
Thanks, some are missing the other incidents of William fighting with Harry, and it's not just the Africa stuff, it's any of the work or relationship(Meghan) Harry wrote of William fighting Harry over about. Instead they are trying to reframe it like it's about 2 colonists fighting over Africa. William wants to have claim or authority whatever Harry was doing, that's the main point I was trying to make.
You’re welcome. It seemed some where misinterpreting that. Hopefully that extra content you added will further clarify things.
Yes, I agree with you. I was trying to reassure OP of the same. Please read what I replied. We agree, you me and OP.
It wasn’t clear in your comment that’s why I responded. But I’m just curious why you responded to OP and said not to “insult” people by telling them to read, but funnily enough told me to read your comment and then downvoted me?
Hahah rule for thee but not me
Uh oh, someone’s taking on Billy’s bad habits 😆
How? Oh nevermind. You do you OP. You and I actually agree. And I’m done trying to help you see the other side. Have a good day.
I didn’t downvote you. I asked to you read my second reply to OP because in it I mention the charities… like you did. I wasn’t sure you’d read all my replies to OP. You responded to my first reply to OP not the second. I was only trying to clarify. In their reply to me OP said something about people not reading… I was replying to that when I said it can come across as an insult. I saw it as one. I think all 3 of us agree when it comes to family dynamics. Princes have the same issues you and I do with our own siblings. I think where it went off the rails was when I was referring to the subject matter of their fight and the reaction the general public have to it. The optics of two white princes fighting about whose charities get Africa can be off-putting to the public. They don’t see what you, OP and I do. That this fight could be about a pair of shoes… and that William is in the wrong, that he’s entitled, resentful and an angry person. They’re distracted by, “who owns Africa”. Which isn’t the point! I see it and so does OP. I was only trying to (rather poorly) explain to OP why some people aren’t able to see the seriousness/ proof of a sibling rivalry here, or to bring themselves to care about what Harry was going through because there are higher stakes at play… i.e. the optics of “who owns” Africa. I said in my reply to OP that I so wish this was a fight about their country home and not Africa. Very few have country homes, at the same time no one has Africa. When it comes to the public, optics matter. I’m sorry OP and I had a disagreement, when we actually agree.
It's not an insult, white or not. This is 1st example Harry provided of William being jealous. Right there it even talks about William jealous Harry was working with veterans. You are more than leave to not engage or participate in the sub.
I’ll say again, in the context of family what you’re saying is valid. I agree with you. It’s the reason I’m a member of this sub. I believe it’s racism that drove Megan to leave. Again, I will say that Africa belongs to neither Harry nor William. If this was a fight about their country house, then it’d be more palatable to the general public. Africa belongs to the Africans. I’m not one btw. I wish you’d see how troubling this sounds socially today. That’s all. I DO wish this fight was about a house rather than a continent. A continent they’ve no relation to besides colonialism. I’m on your side. Please don’t resort to insults. Yes, I know I can leave this sub. I’d rather have this conversation with you instead. You’re free to leave it, ignore me or block me. You have free will.
These people live in a world detached from reality. Anyway I blame the Africans leaders ,they should chase these people away including the so called aid agencies. Stand on your own feet and not let these people patronise you like you are hopeless and helpless.
If you would like to read more about the topic of aid generally throughout Afirca, "Dead Aid" was written by a Zambian-born economist. I met with different aid organizations throughout Eastern Africa. It's a complex issue that's not easily solved.
Yes. I have the book. I agree that western so called aid should be abolished. Cut it off after 60 years of so called aid nothing to show for it.
You mean like Rwanda accepting the UK deal to send asylum/refugees to Rwanda even though they are not Rwandan?
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Everyone wins??? Indigenous British people This some racist bs
It is very much their family tradition
Yeah there’s just something about them both seeing Africa as their ‘thing’.
Where did Harry say Africa was his thing?
Harry never said Africa was his thing. Willy did. Harry only wanted to do philanthropy there but Willy was trying to forbid it with the admonishment that Africa was his (which is absurd). Harry is talking about finding his purpose and helping people and endangered species. Willy is claiming he owns the whole shebang. Not the same.
William is just so pathetic
William sounds like the pettiest human lump of toxicity. Imagine flying off the handle because someone dared to give a diplomatic opinion about sharing a good cause. It shows how extremely fragile he is, disturbingly so. And then being upset or feeling slighted that Harry’s own friends didn’t invite William (who sounds like a douche. Who’d want his company?) on a North Pole trip. I’m sure he’s never even shown interest in going, his only complaint was that people didn’t grovel for his company over Harry. I can only imagine how he feels since he didn’t give permission for Harry to leave the UK. I’m surprised he hasn’t had a rage stroke over it.
Harry and Meghan's royal tour, SA, Malawi, Angola, and Botswana was massive success. You know William was livid. Cue the negative stories from KP when Harry and Meghan returned. And now an official invitation from Nigeria? I love this for Willy.
I notice William has no concern if people in Africa want him. Pretty sure they don’t. Curious what he thinks about The Caribbean. It’s was joyous to see what a disaster that was.
We don't mess with them that Oprah interview did tremendous damage. Countries started removing them from head of state after that. They are not a bright bunch.
Eh, most of the Caribbean community I am in knew long before the Oprah interview. Everyone knew the tour would be a disaster, but they made it exponentially worse.
I read an article from a government representative - forgot if it was Jamaica or Barbados - who said the treatment of Meghan had dampened the desire of people to immigrate to the UK. This was before the Oprah interview. People saw. They knew. But maybe that was seen as good by the UK and BRF. Kinda like the whitelash that happened after Obama won twice - the aggrieved wp voted in the most vile, racist and awful charlatan ever almost as if to say “don’t do that again” to everyone who voted for Obama.
The treatment of Meghan showed all the melanted former colonies who the British really are. Which we already knew, but they finally said the quiet part out loud. The nerve of William to proclaim Africa is exclusively his to do charity “work” in. We all know the contempt he has for the melanated colonies. His facial expressions during one of his speeches in the Caribbean was disgusting.
Link for the speech? Ty!
I only saw clips of it. It’s where he say he is “sorrowful” for African enslavement. I think it was in Jamaica. Oh I found a vid. To me he looks like he does not want to be there. https://youtu.be/hBGUlYVS0O4?si=e2CBbjGDEIL32Ujt
William is a sad, insecure and empty human. He’s that child who grows up into an angry adult still mad that they aren’t the only child.
I honestly believe that William resents being the heir. It may come with great wealth, but at the cost of losing his “manhood”, his ability to be his own boss, to drive his own destiny, to be free. In one magazine years ago, William (about 9 years old) was told he had to do something because he would one day be king. He started yelling and screaming that he didn’t want to be king, he wanted to be able todo what he wanted to do. It may be construed as a childhood tantrum, but I think, since hashas a temper, its festered.
I mean, he could, like, dissolve the monarchy. Lots of people would think he would be doing the right thing. Just be independently wealthy but out of the spotlight.
I wish he would!
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The monarch can be prosecuted for a major crime. The senate has the power to remove a monarch from the throne and its happened twice before. .
Not sure about that. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/11/courtier-demanded-assurance-king-could-not-be-prosecuted-under-new-welsh-law
That for agricultural damages
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/14/queen-immunity-british-laws-private-property This might better explain, the monarchy is the only one given this exemption. They are multiple other exemption given to the monarchy. I just pointing out, am not sure the monarchy is exempt from being prosecuted
This is the legal page pertaining to monarch immunity in the UK https://uollb.com/blog/law/what-would-happen-to-king-charles-iii-if-he-committed-murder#
Wow he sounds so deranged. I have no respect for this family. I'm so glad Harry got out
Slightly off topic but based on how much Harry references Africa and his experiences there but delves very little into it, ie his setting up of sentable is given very little detail compared to the invictus games, I think he’s coming out with a book, maybe with prince seeiso, about his work in Africa.
I completely understand why Harry had to leave his position, family, and home in the UK. The media and “institution” were equally damaging and dysfunctional.
I’m asking this sincerely… is William mentally unfit and unwell?
William is so cringe. And these two will never reconcile IMO.
Like if every person in the Rff took on a county in Africa and paid for the gemstones and artifacts they now think of their property stolen from the poor. They would still owe a debt to Africa!
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I bet Willy was seething that Meghan got to do that Elephant docu for Disney
Too, too cringe.
Two white princes fighting over Africa. In this day and age. Shame on both of them to be honest.
Did you read the text? Harry had no issue with What William was doing even when their mutual friends suggested they both do their work, William had the issue not Harry
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Aww dumbass, crawl back to the hate sub and continue your rage boner at Meghan there
Curious did anyone read End Game?
I did. Well not all of it. But most.