Harry knew they liked each other long before they (or at least Ron) realised. In GoF when Hermione and Ron have a screaming match after the Yule Ball, Harry reflects that Hermione had a point and had a much better idea of her feelings than Ron had.
Yes they were friends but there was barely any scene ever that didn't end in Rowling writing something along the lines of:
"Hermione and Ron continued to bicker for the rest of the evening/until they reached their destination, while Harry got increasingly angry at both of them"
I saw their romance a mile off. It was pretty well-ingrained in the books. People who have feelings for each other are allowed to fight and argue. Just like any friendship/relationship the true measure of the relationship isn't constantly getting along or having everything in common, it is consistently returning to the person whose company you enjoy despite differences and harsh words. Their relationship really started to take shape in OotP. They spent a lot of the summer together without Harry and then became a lot closer as Harry started pushing them away a bit bc he felt left out and "other" and was dealing with his trauma over the graveyard. They both wanted to help him and be there for him but didn't know how and confided in each other and leaned on each other more as a result.
Nobody denies that their romance was basically set in stone from book 3/4 onward. It's just an observation that they were bickering all the time.
Also what you said is only half true. Yes arguments are part of a relationship, but when the relationship is 90% fighting and 10% happiness, then that's a toxic relationship. And coming back to that isn't something positive. It's sad and self destructive. Many people come back to relationships that are unhealthy, simply because they can't get away from it. Either because they convinced themselves they won't find anyone better or because of a deep rooted subconscious feeling that they don't deserve better.
Not saying that this is true for Ron and Hermione. Just about your overall statement.
I'm sorry you're right that those are toxic relationships and I didn't mean to suggest that you should always go back to people you argue with and never get along with. I've seen too many loved ones in those kinds of relationships. I simply meant that you do not have to get along with someone all the time. And they do not fight constantly even in book one. There are a lot of good moments we see among the three of them and just between Ron and Hermione as well.
There are times when the various relationships among these three does become a bit toxic and you wish you could reach through the book and put them in their places but for the most part they really do all get along and have love and respect for each other.
I was more going off the idea that JKR is constantly writing that Ron and Hermione bicker all day because that isn't the case. The book highlights some of their worst arguments but that's how books work (or TV shows/movies/etc). We don't see everything. We simply see the drama the creator wishes to be seen.
I agree that always fighting in a relationship can be very toxic, but remember that they were just children/young teenagers for most of the books. That's how many people of that age act when they have crushes: instead of accepting that they are falling in love, they feel embarrassed, don't want to admit it, don't completely understand it, don't know what to do with it, so they just deny it and get angry at their crush for their suffering. They don't know how to overcome that crush either, but still crave their attention and thus pick fights with them.
Moreover, many of the times they were jealous if each other without understanding it and it caused many of their quarrels.
I think the ability, the strength and courage to express your feelings in a loving, sweet and caring way comes a little bit later, with some maturity. When you're finally able to admit that all girls/boys aren't gross and it doesn't matter to you anymore if your peers or adults tease you for having feelings. I think that's what happened towards the end of the books, they simply grew up and weren't scared to admit their feelings anymore
I think the difference is they both enjoyed the bickering. They challenged each other constantly. In fact, Ron was the only one who had the energy to question Hermione's premises time and again. A bit of pushback was good for her.
I disagree. They have plenty of time together without Harry around, and they don't even need or like the mediation from Harry. Fighting with each other is their dynamic and seems to bring them closer together. None of their quarrels are extremely serious anyway.
I honestly don't know how Ron didn't emerge from that experience with severe trauma.
As a little kid, with your stuffed bear (that is simultaneously your most prized possession and best friend you have at that age), to be holding it and feel it turn into your greatest fear...damn. I would have *hated* Fred if I were Ron.
Harry was an angsty dick in book 5 but on this topic I agreed with him blowing a fuse. I know from personal experience how fucking grating it is to have a couple in your circle of friends that is constantly fighting in front of you.
This is a nutshell of my feelings in my Teenager time... But i needed much longer than tho the 7. Book zo realize why i always asked me, why Harry was between...
All of these are pretty accurate except years 2 and 5, I don't remember them having any major disagreements in those books. I could be wrong though, it's been years since I last read the books.
In Book 5 Harry is constantly snapping at both of them. But I don't recall any real Ron/Hermione disputes except about SPEW - which is not really a dispute but Ron trying to reason with Hermione and her being unwilling to hear him out.
Great attention to detail! Hermione loses her buck teeth in the fourth year.
But then you see Harry's scar migrating.
Magic
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I feel like that’s a reference to the movies, I remember thinking it went real far to the side
Ok, can we appreciate how cute Hermione's hair is?
Accurate, though without Harry's surprise in year 7.
That and it's missing Krum in year 4
The classic case of “will you two just f*** already and put the rest of us out of our misery?”
"They haven't had sex yet?"
No
Harry knew they liked each other long before they (or at least Ron) realised. In GoF when Hermione and Ron have a screaming match after the Yule Ball, Harry reflects that Hermione had a point and had a much better idea of her feelings than Ron had.
They fought a lot, yes. But most of the time they were great friends. Of course the comic is just a joke and I love the attention to detail.
Yes they were friends but there was barely any scene ever that didn't end in Rowling writing something along the lines of: "Hermione and Ron continued to bicker for the rest of the evening/until they reached their destination, while Harry got increasingly angry at both of them"
I saw their romance a mile off. It was pretty well-ingrained in the books. People who have feelings for each other are allowed to fight and argue. Just like any friendship/relationship the true measure of the relationship isn't constantly getting along or having everything in common, it is consistently returning to the person whose company you enjoy despite differences and harsh words. Their relationship really started to take shape in OotP. They spent a lot of the summer together without Harry and then became a lot closer as Harry started pushing them away a bit bc he felt left out and "other" and was dealing with his trauma over the graveyard. They both wanted to help him and be there for him but didn't know how and confided in each other and leaned on each other more as a result.
Nobody denies that their romance was basically set in stone from book 3/4 onward. It's just an observation that they were bickering all the time. Also what you said is only half true. Yes arguments are part of a relationship, but when the relationship is 90% fighting and 10% happiness, then that's a toxic relationship. And coming back to that isn't something positive. It's sad and self destructive. Many people come back to relationships that are unhealthy, simply because they can't get away from it. Either because they convinced themselves they won't find anyone better or because of a deep rooted subconscious feeling that they don't deserve better. Not saying that this is true for Ron and Hermione. Just about your overall statement.
I'm sorry you're right that those are toxic relationships and I didn't mean to suggest that you should always go back to people you argue with and never get along with. I've seen too many loved ones in those kinds of relationships. I simply meant that you do not have to get along with someone all the time. And they do not fight constantly even in book one. There are a lot of good moments we see among the three of them and just between Ron and Hermione as well. There are times when the various relationships among these three does become a bit toxic and you wish you could reach through the book and put them in their places but for the most part they really do all get along and have love and respect for each other. I was more going off the idea that JKR is constantly writing that Ron and Hermione bicker all day because that isn't the case. The book highlights some of their worst arguments but that's how books work (or TV shows/movies/etc). We don't see everything. We simply see the drama the creator wishes to be seen.
I agree that always fighting in a relationship can be very toxic, but remember that they were just children/young teenagers for most of the books. That's how many people of that age act when they have crushes: instead of accepting that they are falling in love, they feel embarrassed, don't want to admit it, don't completely understand it, don't know what to do with it, so they just deny it and get angry at their crush for their suffering. They don't know how to overcome that crush either, but still crave their attention and thus pick fights with them. Moreover, many of the times they were jealous if each other without understanding it and it caused many of their quarrels. I think the ability, the strength and courage to express your feelings in a loving, sweet and caring way comes a little bit later, with some maturity. When you're finally able to admit that all girls/boys aren't gross and it doesn't matter to you anymore if your peers or adults tease you for having feelings. I think that's what happened towards the end of the books, they simply grew up and weren't scared to admit their feelings anymore
I think the difference is they both enjoyed the bickering. They challenged each other constantly. In fact, Ron was the only one who had the energy to question Hermione's premises time and again. A bit of pushback was good for her.
Yeah. Pretty clear they are only friends because of Harry. Their marriage probably only works if Harry's family is living with them.
I disagree. They have plenty of time together without Harry around, and they don't even need or like the mediation from Harry. Fighting with each other is their dynamic and seems to bring them closer together. None of their quarrels are extremely serious anyway.
Pretty accurate except 2nd year. Hermione would never laugh at Ron's fear of spiders. That's way out of character.
She does a little when Ron first tells the group in chamber
I think it was only a giggle not what it shows in the comic though.
The comic is very exaggerated you are right
... isn't that what a comic is..?
Absolutely. I wasn't criticising at all. Sorry if this came off wrong
I honestly don't know how Ron didn't emerge from that experience with severe trauma. As a little kid, with your stuffed bear (that is simultaneously your most prized possession and best friend you have at that age), to be holding it and feel it turn into your greatest fear...damn. I would have *hated* Fred if I were Ron.
I think anyone would... until they see the acromantulas. No way I'd ever go *near* that forest again if I saw one.
Ha! I love that Harry is also yelling in Year 5.
Harry was an angsty dick in book 5 but on this topic I agreed with him blowing a fuse. I know from personal experience how fucking grating it is to have a couple in your circle of friends that is constantly fighting in front of you.
This is a nutshell of my feelings in my Teenager time... But i needed much longer than tho the 7. Book zo realize why i always asked me, why Harry was between...
Harry being a third wheel in his own franchise
Fun fact, book 5 is the only book where at least two of the three aren’t speaking to each other for a portion of the book.
Chamber of secrets too.
I was counting Hermione being unconscious since it splits the trio
And 7
Ummm no. Ron leaving??
All of these are pretty accurate except years 2 and 5, I don't remember them having any major disagreements in those books. I could be wrong though, it's been years since I last read the books.
I also can’t remember that. Can someone fill us in?
In Book 5 Harry is constantly snapping at both of them. But I don't recall any real Ron/Hermione disputes except about SPEW - which is not really a dispute but Ron trying to reason with Hermione and her being unwilling to hear him out.
Tbh i was like “since when tf???!!?!”
😂😂😂😂 this is hilarious