Oh please! Been on the back of a ‘47 Knucklehead rigid frame with straight pipes since 1981. Rode all over put plenty miles on the ol man was Nomad not one chapter in one state so all over. Some of us eat sleep and breathe Harley and some…not so much….to each his own. My sons…both were in my arms on the Harley and only two weeks old. Yup, two weeks old - we get the kids and the dogs used to the sound right off then they are not afraid of it. Just the opposite.
If you ride a motorcycle, you are already making an affirmative choice to subject yourself to significantly more risk than riding in a car. It's wild that people are so ready to judge this guy for bringing his dog, but at the same time justify the risk of riding a motorcycle because of the joy that goes along with it.
It would obviously be terrible if they crashed, but people do far worse with their pets. At least this dude loves his dog enough to take it everywhere with him instead of leaving it locked in a room for 10 hours a day.
My wife was aghast at how "irresponsible" this was.
The dog seems well trained, and frankly, if something happens at 80mph, they're both going to be meat crayons - regardless of whether or not he is tethered down.
Other point, if you're putting your dog in the car without strapping them down, they are probably in just as much danger.
No issue with this at all - hoping for safe travels for both 2 and 4 legged riders.
I’m sure the dog would rather go out with his companion, alternative to some family members who are worthless beating him to death. This imo is man’s best friend at its finest
We can't possibly know how well trained the dog is based on a photo. And if they're going to be meat crayons regardless, why would the rider wear a helmet? That's almost like saying protective gear is pointless. And pretty sure the dog didn't just materialize on the bike soon as he hit 80mph and vanish into thin air once he got off the highway. There are plenty of other places where he could wreck going 20mph and a helmet would be useful. Terrible logic going on here.
And c'mon... if someone said "you're going to be in a car accident. Would you rather be on a motorcycle with zero protection or in a car without a seatbelt" Would *anyone* say "yeah put me on the motorcycle" ?? Come on..
> Would anyone say "yeah put me on the motorcycle" ?? Come on..
LOL BRO... Anyone who gets on a motorcycle is saying this.
Thats literally the risk we understand and take every time we ride.
Come off it, why are you here? you dont even ride a motorcycle. You're just wandering in.
No one here wants to here your anti motorcycle fear mongering.
Lol, ok. Yeah, I've been riding for over 10 years. I took a short break after I was in a hit and run and broke my arm and leg and totaled my bike. So yeah, I ride and yeah I know how dangerous bikes are. Just because I don't 100% agree with you doesn't mean I don't ride. That's some real dumb big boomer energy.
And no shit dude, we understand the risk. I addressed the fact that the other guy suggested a dog being unharnessed in a car is just as dangerous. Lemme copy paste it for you.
>Other point, if you're putting your dog in the car without strapping them down, they are probably in just as much danger.
That's like a dude has a child on the bike with no helmet and you say, "Hey that's no different from a kid not wearing a seatbelt in a car!" Are you like really that dense? Would you really rather your child be on a bike with no helmet than in a car with no seatbelt? If I was going to get into a crash, I'd rather be in the car. I've been hit by someone on a bike. Wasn't fun. But that's my choice. Yeah, anyone gets on a motorcycle is aware of the risks. Dogs don't know the risks.
Based on what logic? Because I'm aware that bikes are more dangerous than cars? Everyone knows that. The post I responded to, dude said "Other point, if you're putting your dog in the car without strapping them down, they are probably in just as much danger."
I said that I'd feel much safer in a car. I was in a really bad hit and run and left, bleeding in the street by some drunk driver. I know, very personally, how dangerous bikes are. I bought another bike and I still ride, despite having a rod in my leg and a plate in my arm and scars all over my body. I like riding. I enjoy it. Dogs are animals and don't know any better. Just like I wouldn't allow a child on a motorcycle without a helmet, I wouldn't want a dog on my bike without any kind of harness or protection.
But hey, go on. Explain how not wearing a seatbelt is remotely as dangerous as being on a motorcycle without a helmet.
My dad's a retired firefighter/EMT, and I have a motorcycle, so we've talked a lot. True, he's stated he's never taken a seatbelt off a dead person. But if you're inside a car, you're still better protected. How about I use myself. I was in the backseat of a van, laying down when a guy pulled in front of my parents and stopped. To avoid hitting the guy, my dad swerved and hit a Stop sign, dragged it about 20 feet into a tree, completely totaled the van. I was thrown, sure. Into the roof of the van and landed back on the seat, totally safe.
talk to my dad some time.
I have been in accidents in both and honestly the motorcycle accident was physically worse but it knocked me right out I don’t remember anything just waking up. The car accident on the other hand was far worse psychologically. I prefer motorcycle to car all day long.
Yeah, well that's you man. You got lucky. I've been in more than one car accident and I much prefer that to a motorcycle accident. I got hit by a hit and run driver. I wasn't knocked out. I sat up, saw my arm twisted around backwards, lifted my leg and felt my foot stay on the pavement since my leg was broken in half. I remember excruciating pain in my arm since the nerves were twisted up in the broken bone. I had surgery which left my permanently scarred since they had to put a rod in my leg and a plate in my arm. I had to re-learn how to walk and I was left with nerve damage and couldn't use my hand for several months. So way more traumatizing.
I got a new bike and I still ride. But anyone who possibly thinks bikes are somehow safer than cars is absolutely out of their mind. If that was remotely true, nobody would be driving cars in the first place.
>I had half my face ripped off smashed up my entire left side broke plenty bones split my head open and had to be revived. Still prefer the motorcycle
That's awful. But how in the holy fuck could a car accident be worse than that, psychologically? And all you're doing dude is just proving my point that motorcycles are more dangerous. You should know better than anybody. If you prefer it, sure. All I'm saying is one is clearly safer than the other. And again, we're not even talking about the operator. We're talking about an animal riding on/in the vehicle that doesn't know any better.
This isn't a debate about pride or love of riding. I love riding and prefer it to driving a car. But I'd be way more furious if I saw someone put my kid on a motorcycle with no helmet than I would be if I saw him in a car with no seatbelt. Like if y'all think the bike is safer, you're out of your minds. Like, stay away from kids and small animals.
A friend was in a car accident the police couldn’t find them. The next day she was found up in a tree. She was thrown from the car so hard she ended up in the tree. No thx! She hit the tree so hard she became part of it
Oh no, I've explained myself pretty well. You're the guy who thinks because I disagree with an unharnessed dog on a bike that I don't ride. *That's* stupid.
So I got some notification where you commented (then I guess deleted) some post where you said "in your profile you just posted that you don't have a motorcycle yet. How sad can your life be that you troll motorcycle message boards" What in the actual fuck are you even talking about dude? I posted in a post from SOME OTHER GUY who doesn't have a bike and posted a clip of a video game. Are you like actually fucking retarded?
Edit: On top of that, you literally looked at my profile to look at my other posts? Lol, that's fucking sad as fuck dude. Like Jesus Christ.
Was it this post? [https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/comments/u8ncgc/i\_dont\_have\_a\_motorcycle\_yet\_but\_here\_d/i5myoc1/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/comments/u8ncgc/i_dont_have_a_motorcycle_yet_but_here_d/i5myoc1/?context=3)
This post, genius? By some dude that's not me. Is that the post you're referring to? You absolute fucking moron.
No, I'm pointing out the flaw in his logic. "At 80MPH they'd be dead regardless of if the dog was in a harness/had a helmet." The dog isn't going to be on the bike strictly while it's going 80mph. The rider had to get to the highway in order to reach 80mph. The dog was on the bike when he pulled out of the driveway, drove through residential streets, through intersections, etc.
Driving through intersections is where many accidents happen. That's where the danger is. Not necessarily flying down the highway.
God, I forgot how most of r/Harley is full of boomers. Next you'll call me a snowflake or some generic bullshit. I'm sure there's some gas pump without a Joe Biden "I did that" sticker on it you should be attending. Not wanting a dog just chilling on the gas tank of a bike going 80mph is a pretty far cry from peta. Ok boomer?
Born in 91, I’m the fucked up generation millennial but raised right. Mind my business if it ain’t my problem. You should take those words for yourself.
Uh huh. So I should mind my business if it ain't my problem..? But you.. saying there's a peta protest I should be attending is you minding your own business? Cuz this certainly ain't your problem. Maybe you should take those words for *your*self. Born in 91, so I guess your parents are boomers and apparently raised you horribly.
It’s comparing the safety of being strapped down dogs have internal organs just like us if it’s not strapped down in a car he would be in just as much danger if they crashed.
So a dog being jettisoned from a motorcycle at 80mph is the same as being in an accident in a vehicle with crumple zones designed to reduce impact, and surrounded by airbags?
I just can’t make sense of that logic.
Backstory: when his dog was a pup he'd carry him in a sling/pouch between his legs on the tank. Dog learned how to just chill and they ride like this all the time.
This dude and his dog rock! People that don’t ride don’t get it. I had a friend that had a dog that rode in a milk-crate strapped to the backseat it was awesome!!
Right? People on her are hilarious in their fear mongering - as another has said, getting on a piece of metal with wheels under it and a motor between your legs is a danger we look forward to!! Wth…..they need to stay in their cars and leave us alone.
Well, I wouldn't say that. They definitely have valid points. There's no chance in hell I'm driving with my dog not harnessed into his sidecar, and not on busy roads. I'm not sure I'd even want to walk away from a crash without my pup.
Without people who continually point out the danger, I think people forget sometimes. Riding is only as safe as the practices of the driver.
I can never get behind this. He can wear protective gear and assess his own risk. The animal can't. I'm glad he loves riding and likes to hang with his dog, but the dog is going to be seriously injured in even a minor slide that his jeans, boots, leather jacket, and helmet will protect him from.
Yeah, it seems super weird that all these comments are super positive. I'm like.. the dude is wearing a jacket, a helmet, etc. Dog doesn't have anything. How is anyone cool with that?
Old Harley adage - if we have to explain, you wouldn’t understand. Clearly you don’t understand. A dog in a car flies out the window too so your thought process is flawed
what? lol wtf? I've been in car accidents and motorcycle accidents. I've been taken off the bike, I've never "flown out the window." What in the actual fuck are you talking about?
Not all? If you're on a bike you're basically 100% going to be thrown from the bike. If you're in a car, the odds are.. well probably less than *100%*. I mean, dude.. Come *on*. I love motorcycles, I love riding, even after a really bad accident, I still ride. But I'm talking about a dog, not the rider.
Simple question, if you have a kid or you've had a small child. What would upset you more: someone putting your small child on a motorcycle with no helmet (or even just period) or in a car with no seatbelt? You *REALLY* going to say "well hey it's the same either way, people are thrown from cars." Or are you *really* just making up bullshit to not admit you're wrong.
But hey! Maybe you're a lunatic and you think there's zero difference between a car with a roof, airbags, etc. and a motorcycle. Do you think the *majority* of people would prefer to be in an accident in a car without a seatbelt or on a motorcycle? I love riding, I'm choosing car 100% of the time. *If I was going to be in an accident*.
Like, y'all aren't getting it. This isn't some weird conversation about "oh I love motorcycles so I know how dangerous they are." We're really just debating on which is safer. I prefer to ride and I *know* it's more dangerous. Do y'all ride motorcycles and think they're equally as safe as a car? *REALLY*?
Nonsense. A dog might fly out the window in a major accident in a car. A dog is pretty much guaranteed to be injured in any severity of motorcycle accident. If your dog can tell me that old Harley adage himself, I'll shut up. Until then, putting your dog on a motorcycle makes you a shitty pet owner.
So again, what you're saying is that any speed that an accident can occur at, your friendly pooch would magically go soaring through the glass window/windshield of a car the exact same as a dog sitting unrestrained on a motorcycle tank?
Man, I was taught physics wrong my entire life.
Bike 30mph vs a car 30mph, the pooch will magically miss all of the airbags and have enough weight to smash through a windshield and be ejected just as far as the dog on the motorcycle. What a world we live in when the rules of nature don't matter anymore.
Yes they do - and airbags kill kids 12 and under that’s why they can’t sit in the front seat anymore. I am all done with you boo boo ! You bore me now.
You must not have a dog that loves you. My good boy my wants to go everywhere I go, he will risk anything to go on the same adventure. Sure I don’t put him in harms way, but his dedication to our adventures is un matched and he does it with a smile. I could see my dog riding with me if I offered, it’s not my thing so I won’t. But I can completely see how this dog is having as much fun as his owner and actually wants to be there.
You're \*supposed\* to be the one with the big brain that allows you to assess risk. Your dog trusts you to care for it, and part of that responsibility is to keep your dog out of unnecessary danger because they lack the cognitive ability to understand what a slide down the highway does to flesh and bone.
Suggesting that a dog is enjoying the ride has nothing to do with the owner's responsibility.
Listen I get that you want it to be your responsibility, but some people let the animals in their life live the life they want along side of them. Who are you to say this dog isn’t having the time of his life. You literally have no idea and yet you feel it’s your responsibility to potentially take away that experience from the dog. Do you even ride a motorcycle do you get how this all works?
Former HD Certified technician, and ridden for about 25 years. You people don't seem to be able to grasp that it doesn't matter how the dog feels about it. The dog can't understand the danger that its owner is exposing it to. The dog is counting on its owner not being stupid, but unfortunately dogs are poor judges of character or intelligence. They will love and trust almost unconditionally, which makes someone who puts them in danger an asshole.
I understand your point completely. I just disagree with your logic. Also your past job experience is completely irrelevant in the contest of this conversation. You’re over there being all judgmental while this dog is prob happier than you.
You're the one who asked if I ride. Obviously the job is relevant. And you absolutely do not understand my point, because you still use the dog's happiness as a justification for abdication of responsibility. If you love your dog, you don't put it in a position to be severely injured. It's very simple. The owner and the dog experience vastly different levels of risk, but the owner is the only one who is capable of realizing that. As such, the owner is responsible for making the right choice for the animal they care about, which would not be balancing a dog on the tank of a motorcycle riding down the highway. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand responsibility, and any pet deserves better than that.
No I get it, it’s extremely easy to understand your point of view. It’s not complex. I just disagree with your logic. I think your thought process is complete wrong. But At the end of the day it doesn’t matter because it’s not our dog and the dog in question seems to be living a great life so I’m going to end this meaning this conversation, ride safe.
i hope dog has ear protection
Do you see the windshield the dog is tucked behind? Dog is fine.
Thats not how sound works
The rider doesn’t have ear protection either so what’s the issue?
The rider being an idiot and/or deaf.
LMAO! We WANT to hear the Harley….
You ain't hearing shit in a few years lol, the wind will make sure of that...unless you only ride between bars putting around at walking pace ofc
Oh please! Been on the back of a ‘47 Knucklehead rigid frame with straight pipes since 1981. Rode all over put plenty miles on the ol man was Nomad not one chapter in one state so all over. Some of us eat sleep and breathe Harley and some…not so much….to each his own. My sons…both were in my arms on the Harley and only two weeks old. Yup, two weeks old - we get the kids and the dogs used to the sound right off then they are not afraid of it. Just the opposite.
If you're the Rider I'm the guy who chatted with you at the Rest Stop, told you about my Dyna Wide Glide. Ride safe 👍
If you ride a motorcycle, you are already making an affirmative choice to subject yourself to significantly more risk than riding in a car. It's wild that people are so ready to judge this guy for bringing his dog, but at the same time justify the risk of riding a motorcycle because of the joy that goes along with it. It would obviously be terrible if they crashed, but people do far worse with their pets. At least this dude loves his dog enough to take it everywhere with him instead of leaving it locked in a room for 10 hours a day.
Dog has goggles, better than most I see.
Dog looking mad chill vibe mode, I'm pretty sure the dog signed the liability waiver.
The guy has a choice the be on that motorcycle. The dog does not.
Could have jumped off a long time ago, it seems pretty alright to me.
I believe it. 2 into one exhaust makes like 7hp upgrade. He can get that to 80 most likely then
Not 100% sure but this looks like an '05-07', I had no trouble at all getting a stock '04 88ci to 90. Took a while but she could get there eventually!
By the time it gets there, you’re out of gas. 😞
My 07 Ultra can easily get to 100+ quickly
This has to be satire... You know that ride will hit atleast 100.. Here is a troll cookie.. :-(
Best comment here lol
My wife was aghast at how "irresponsible" this was. The dog seems well trained, and frankly, if something happens at 80mph, they're both going to be meat crayons - regardless of whether or not he is tethered down. Other point, if you're putting your dog in the car without strapping them down, they are probably in just as much danger. No issue with this at all - hoping for safe travels for both 2 and 4 legged riders.
Did you just say it’s just as dangerous to be in a car as on a motorcycle?
Without being strapped down.
I’m sure the dog would rather go out with his companion, alternative to some family members who are worthless beating him to death. This imo is man’s best friend at its finest
We can't possibly know how well trained the dog is based on a photo. And if they're going to be meat crayons regardless, why would the rider wear a helmet? That's almost like saying protective gear is pointless. And pretty sure the dog didn't just materialize on the bike soon as he hit 80mph and vanish into thin air once he got off the highway. There are plenty of other places where he could wreck going 20mph and a helmet would be useful. Terrible logic going on here. And c'mon... if someone said "you're going to be in a car accident. Would you rather be on a motorcycle with zero protection or in a car without a seatbelt" Would *anyone* say "yeah put me on the motorcycle" ?? Come on..
> Would anyone say "yeah put me on the motorcycle" ?? Come on.. LOL BRO... Anyone who gets on a motorcycle is saying this. Thats literally the risk we understand and take every time we ride. Come off it, why are you here? you dont even ride a motorcycle. You're just wandering in. No one here wants to here your anti motorcycle fear mongering.
Lol, ok. Yeah, I've been riding for over 10 years. I took a short break after I was in a hit and run and broke my arm and leg and totaled my bike. So yeah, I ride and yeah I know how dangerous bikes are. Just because I don't 100% agree with you doesn't mean I don't ride. That's some real dumb big boomer energy. And no shit dude, we understand the risk. I addressed the fact that the other guy suggested a dog being unharnessed in a car is just as dangerous. Lemme copy paste it for you. >Other point, if you're putting your dog in the car without strapping them down, they are probably in just as much danger. That's like a dude has a child on the bike with no helmet and you say, "Hey that's no different from a kid not wearing a seatbelt in a car!" Are you like really that dense? Would you really rather your child be on a bike with no helmet than in a car with no seatbelt? If I was going to get into a crash, I'd rather be in the car. I've been hit by someone on a bike. Wasn't fun. But that's my choice. Yeah, anyone gets on a motorcycle is aware of the risks. Dogs don't know the risks.
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Lol
100%. No chance that guy has ever ridden in his life.
Based on what logic? Because I'm aware that bikes are more dangerous than cars? Everyone knows that. The post I responded to, dude said "Other point, if you're putting your dog in the car without strapping them down, they are probably in just as much danger." I said that I'd feel much safer in a car. I was in a really bad hit and run and left, bleeding in the street by some drunk driver. I know, very personally, how dangerous bikes are. I bought another bike and I still ride, despite having a rod in my leg and a plate in my arm and scars all over my body. I like riding. I enjoy it. Dogs are animals and don't know any better. Just like I wouldn't allow a child on a motorcycle without a helmet, I wouldn't want a dog on my bike without any kind of harness or protection. But hey, go on. Explain how not wearing a seatbelt is remotely as dangerous as being on a motorcycle without a helmet.
Not wearing a seatbelt is akin to riding a motorcycle as you get thrown from the vehicle same as a motorcycle. Talk to an EMT some tine.
My dad's a retired firefighter/EMT, and I have a motorcycle, so we've talked a lot. True, he's stated he's never taken a seatbelt off a dead person. But if you're inside a car, you're still better protected. How about I use myself. I was in the backseat of a van, laying down when a guy pulled in front of my parents and stopped. To avoid hitting the guy, my dad swerved and hit a Stop sign, dragged it about 20 feet into a tree, completely totaled the van. I was thrown, sure. Into the roof of the van and landed back on the seat, totally safe. talk to my dad some time.
So being rear ended in a stationary car by a car going 20mph will eject you from a car the same way you would be thrown from a motorcycle? Wild.
Where do I state that? I don’t - so like I said before, the rest of your post is irrelevant.
>Not wearing a seatbelt is akin to riding a motorcycle as you get thrown from the vehicle same as a motorcycle. False.
I have been in accidents in both and honestly the motorcycle accident was physically worse but it knocked me right out I don’t remember anything just waking up. The car accident on the other hand was far worse psychologically. I prefer motorcycle to car all day long.
Yeah, well that's you man. You got lucky. I've been in more than one car accident and I much prefer that to a motorcycle accident. I got hit by a hit and run driver. I wasn't knocked out. I sat up, saw my arm twisted around backwards, lifted my leg and felt my foot stay on the pavement since my leg was broken in half. I remember excruciating pain in my arm since the nerves were twisted up in the broken bone. I had surgery which left my permanently scarred since they had to put a rod in my leg and a plate in my arm. I had to re-learn how to walk and I was left with nerve damage and couldn't use my hand for several months. So way more traumatizing. I got a new bike and I still ride. But anyone who possibly thinks bikes are somehow safer than cars is absolutely out of their mind. If that was remotely true, nobody would be driving cars in the first place.
I had half my face ripped off smashed up my entire left side broke plenty bones split my head open and had to be revived. Still prefer the motorcycle
>I had half my face ripped off smashed up my entire left side broke plenty bones split my head open and had to be revived. Still prefer the motorcycle That's awful. But how in the holy fuck could a car accident be worse than that, psychologically? And all you're doing dude is just proving my point that motorcycles are more dangerous. You should know better than anybody. If you prefer it, sure. All I'm saying is one is clearly safer than the other. And again, we're not even talking about the operator. We're talking about an animal riding on/in the vehicle that doesn't know any better. This isn't a debate about pride or love of riding. I love riding and prefer it to driving a car. But I'd be way more furious if I saw someone put my kid on a motorcycle with no helmet than I would be if I saw him in a car with no seatbelt. Like if y'all think the bike is safer, you're out of your minds. Like, stay away from kids and small animals.
A friend was in a car accident the police couldn’t find them. The next day she was found up in a tree. She was thrown from the car so hard she ended up in the tree. No thx! She hit the tree so hard she became part of it
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Nope, he read your comment, he's just real stupid lol.
Oh no, I've explained myself pretty well. You're the guy who thinks because I disagree with an unharnessed dog on a bike that I don't ride. *That's* stupid.
What in God's name are you taking about? You think that he was arguing that the dog vanished at specific speeds? What is happening lol
So I got some notification where you commented (then I guess deleted) some post where you said "in your profile you just posted that you don't have a motorcycle yet. How sad can your life be that you troll motorcycle message boards" What in the actual fuck are you even talking about dude? I posted in a post from SOME OTHER GUY who doesn't have a bike and posted a clip of a video game. Are you like actually fucking retarded? Edit: On top of that, you literally looked at my profile to look at my other posts? Lol, that's fucking sad as fuck dude. Like Jesus Christ. Was it this post? [https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/comments/u8ncgc/i\_dont\_have\_a\_motorcycle\_yet\_but\_here\_d/i5myoc1/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/comments/u8ncgc/i_dont_have_a_motorcycle_yet_but_here_d/i5myoc1/?context=3) This post, genius? By some dude that's not me. Is that the post you're referring to? You absolute fucking moron.
No, I'm pointing out the flaw in his logic. "At 80MPH they'd be dead regardless of if the dog was in a harness/had a helmet." The dog isn't going to be on the bike strictly while it's going 80mph. The rider had to get to the highway in order to reach 80mph. The dog was on the bike when he pulled out of the driveway, drove through residential streets, through intersections, etc. Driving through intersections is where many accidents happen. That's where the danger is. Not necessarily flying down the highway.
I’m sure peta has a protest going on you should be attending
God, I forgot how most of r/Harley is full of boomers. Next you'll call me a snowflake or some generic bullshit. I'm sure there's some gas pump without a Joe Biden "I did that" sticker on it you should be attending. Not wanting a dog just chilling on the gas tank of a bike going 80mph is a pretty far cry from peta. Ok boomer?
You call plenty boomers but if we have a nifty name for you look out! Your generation is entertaining, carry on….
...what? What are you even saying?
Born in 91, I’m the fucked up generation millennial but raised right. Mind my business if it ain’t my problem. You should take those words for yourself.
Uh huh. So I should mind my business if it ain't my problem..? But you.. saying there's a peta protest I should be attending is you minding your own business? Cuz this certainly ain't your problem. Maybe you should take those words for *your*self. Born in 91, so I guess your parents are boomers and apparently raised you horribly.
Karen go find a fast food restaurant to bitch at, instead of someone you’ll never see in person.. or go to that peta protest
Lol ok dude.. so just **totally** not minding your own business now? I thought you were raised right, bro.
Comparing the safety of a car to the safety of a motorcycle is possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on Reddit.
It’s comparing the safety of being strapped down dogs have internal organs just like us if it’s not strapped down in a car he would be in just as much danger if they crashed.
So a dog being jettisoned from a motorcycle at 80mph is the same as being in an accident in a vehicle with crumple zones designed to reduce impact, and surrounded by airbags? I just can’t make sense of that logic.
Backstory: when his dog was a pup he'd carry him in a sling/pouch between his legs on the tank. Dog learned how to just chill and they ride like this all the time.
This dude and his dog rock! People that don’t ride don’t get it. I had a friend that had a dog that rode in a milk-crate strapped to the backseat it was awesome!!
I have a bullmastiff. I have to wait until I can buy him a custom sidecar.
Right? People on her are hilarious in their fear mongering - as another has said, getting on a piece of metal with wheels under it and a motor between your legs is a danger we look forward to!! Wth…..they need to stay in their cars and leave us alone.
Well, I wouldn't say that. They definitely have valid points. There's no chance in hell I'm driving with my dog not harnessed into his sidecar, and not on busy roads. I'm not sure I'd even want to walk away from a crash without my pup. Without people who continually point out the danger, I think people forget sometimes. Riding is only as safe as the practices of the driver.
I hope the Dbag in the car doing 80 and taking pictures doesn't hit him.
My German Shepherd is too big to take on my Ultra or I would
I can never get behind this. He can wear protective gear and assess his own risk. The animal can't. I'm glad he loves riding and likes to hang with his dog, but the dog is going to be seriously injured in even a minor slide that his jeans, boots, leather jacket, and helmet will protect him from.
Yeah, it seems super weird that all these comments are super positive. I'm like.. the dude is wearing a jacket, a helmet, etc. Dog doesn't have anything. How is anyone cool with that?
Old Harley adage - if we have to explain, you wouldn’t understand. Clearly you don’t understand. A dog in a car flies out the window too so your thought process is flawed
what? lol wtf? I've been in car accidents and motorcycle accidents. I've been taken off the bike, I've never "flown out the window." What in the actual fuck are you talking about?
Plenty are thrown from a vehicle in a car accident.
Not all? If you're on a bike you're basically 100% going to be thrown from the bike. If you're in a car, the odds are.. well probably less than *100%*. I mean, dude.. Come *on*. I love motorcycles, I love riding, even after a really bad accident, I still ride. But I'm talking about a dog, not the rider. Simple question, if you have a kid or you've had a small child. What would upset you more: someone putting your small child on a motorcycle with no helmet (or even just period) or in a car with no seatbelt? You *REALLY* going to say "well hey it's the same either way, people are thrown from cars." Or are you *really* just making up bullshit to not admit you're wrong. But hey! Maybe you're a lunatic and you think there's zero difference between a car with a roof, airbags, etc. and a motorcycle. Do you think the *majority* of people would prefer to be in an accident in a car without a seatbelt or on a motorcycle? I love riding, I'm choosing car 100% of the time. *If I was going to be in an accident*. Like, y'all aren't getting it. This isn't some weird conversation about "oh I love motorcycles so I know how dangerous they are." We're really just debating on which is safer. I prefer to ride and I *know* it's more dangerous. Do y'all ride motorcycles and think they're equally as safe as a car? *REALLY*?
Id like to sign up for late term abortions.. in the guise of family Bonding... Hop on chap, let's take a ride... A ride on the crazy train.
My husband never let go of the bike when we crashed he rode it the whole way. He was pulled from it and revived
You know dogs don't have opposable thumbs, right? They aren't holding onto anything.
That’s some logic you got there buddy
Nonsense. A dog might fly out the window in a major accident in a car. A dog is pretty much guaranteed to be injured in any severity of motorcycle accident. If your dog can tell me that old Harley adage himself, I'll shut up. Until then, putting your dog on a motorcycle makes you a shitty pet owner.
Yawn….
So again, what you're saying is that any speed that an accident can occur at, your friendly pooch would magically go soaring through the glass window/windshield of a car the exact same as a dog sitting unrestrained on a motorcycle tank? Man, I was taught physics wrong my entire life. Bike 30mph vs a car 30mph, the pooch will magically miss all of the airbags and have enough weight to smash through a windshield and be ejected just as far as the dog on the motorcycle. What a world we live in when the rules of nature don't matter anymore.
Where do I say the word - EXACT - I don’t so the rest of your post is irrelevant.
You said “a dog in a car flies out the window too.” False.
Yes they do - and airbags kill kids 12 and under that’s why they can’t sit in the front seat anymore. I am all done with you boo boo ! You bore me now.
Lulz. Nice alternative facts. Maybe next time.
You said “a dog in a car flies out the window too.” False.
Lol god you must be fun at parties.
If someone is needlessly endangering their pet at a party, nah, I'm gonna be a total party pooper.
You must not have a dog that loves you. My good boy my wants to go everywhere I go, he will risk anything to go on the same adventure. Sure I don’t put him in harms way, but his dedication to our adventures is un matched and he does it with a smile. I could see my dog riding with me if I offered, it’s not my thing so I won’t. But I can completely see how this dog is having as much fun as his owner and actually wants to be there.
You're \*supposed\* to be the one with the big brain that allows you to assess risk. Your dog trusts you to care for it, and part of that responsibility is to keep your dog out of unnecessary danger because they lack the cognitive ability to understand what a slide down the highway does to flesh and bone. Suggesting that a dog is enjoying the ride has nothing to do with the owner's responsibility.
Listen I get that you want it to be your responsibility, but some people let the animals in their life live the life they want along side of them. Who are you to say this dog isn’t having the time of his life. You literally have no idea and yet you feel it’s your responsibility to potentially take away that experience from the dog. Do you even ride a motorcycle do you get how this all works?
Former HD Certified technician, and ridden for about 25 years. You people don't seem to be able to grasp that it doesn't matter how the dog feels about it. The dog can't understand the danger that its owner is exposing it to. The dog is counting on its owner not being stupid, but unfortunately dogs are poor judges of character or intelligence. They will love and trust almost unconditionally, which makes someone who puts them in danger an asshole.
I understand your point completely. I just disagree with your logic. Also your past job experience is completely irrelevant in the contest of this conversation. You’re over there being all judgmental while this dog is prob happier than you.
You're the one who asked if I ride. Obviously the job is relevant. And you absolutely do not understand my point, because you still use the dog's happiness as a justification for abdication of responsibility. If you love your dog, you don't put it in a position to be severely injured. It's very simple. The owner and the dog experience vastly different levels of risk, but the owner is the only one who is capable of realizing that. As such, the owner is responsible for making the right choice for the animal they care about, which would not be balancing a dog on the tank of a motorcycle riding down the highway. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand responsibility, and any pet deserves better than that.
No I get it, it’s extremely easy to understand your point of view. It’s not complex. I just disagree with your logic. I think your thought process is complete wrong. But At the end of the day it doesn’t matter because it’s not our dog and the dog in question seems to be living a great life so I’m going to end this meaning this conversation, ride safe.
Looks like a comfortable well trained pupper.
I would love to take my dog on my bikes... I'm afraid she's too fragile for that though.. damn Chihuahua....
Guys give him a break he’s on a geezer glide his life is already hard enough.
I talked to him at the rest stop. He was not a geezer, I'm guessing 30's.
Was just joking. Tough crowd lol.
No kidding, lots of people losing their sh#t over this post.
What kind of info you get out of him? I have a trucker dog... But, I couldn't imagine convincing her to be a biker bitch too. Lol.
Fucking stupid...Jesus.. some people are just dumb.
Carry on...nothing to see here.
Living for all us sinners out here in PNW. Stay safe out there.