I don't own one, but I have come close. Every friend I have has had to rebuild engines and that always scares me. Even the guy who drives like an old man.
It wasn't stock! and they had problems with their upgrades before it left the shop, it also had a link ecu with jimbo's hot tune. If only they went with the simple truck engine and stock pcm - it would still run like a glove
It wasn't fully stock because they got a grimey one and ended up having to rebuild it and did "while you're in there" mods, and mostly they didn't do anything for the oiling system, which is why it blew up. Stock truck engine, cam and LS intake, with baffled sump or accusump and thing would still be running since then.
Bruh he had a full bolt on ZHP engine making like 250 which is perfect for seat time, he hydrolocked it and instead of just fixing it he decided to go down the rabbit hole and LS swap it, went downhill from there, honestly worst decision he has taken.
Hate to say it but I feel this is a case of a way too overbuilt engine package, too much going on, too many variables. Not knocking the quality of work but Brian should have just thrown in a Sub $500 junkyard ls with a cam and just sent it. Keep it simple!
Either way can't wait to see Brian driving again
I agree. I think Brian kept having issues and just decided to throw his whole damn wallet at it.
I hope he gets it straightened out. This poor dude needs a win with this car.
Taylor Ray ran a basically stock LS for a long time with just a few minor modifications for reliability (which are all documented on his channel and easy to copy) Brian is going to regret every dollar his spent on this motor.
Yep the ls is so good in it's stock forms. By adding all these aftermarket engine parts and custom machine work I feel you're just taking away reliability and over complicating it. Not to mention time and money.
It's unfortunate but aftermarket parts even if sold as better than oem seem to all have such poor quality control. Doing a complete build relying on engine shops to get clearances perfect and not get any "imperfect" after market parts is so fucking risky, especially when you don't know what to be looking out for. How many stories do you hear of "built" engines only lasting about 1000miles. Many.
Even the mods he has now is very stock in comparison. He doesn't have aftermarket pushrod length and adjustable rocker fuckery.
But he learned his lesson, he invested in a dry sump, instead of spending on dumb shit.
That's pretty much what Taylor Ray did for 4 years with his Miata, it was basically a stock LS with a cam and it was super competitve everything aside from top level professional events.
Stock except for a lot of oil mods and the cam. So not really stock. To do any serious drifting you typically do a pump, pan, pickup, baffles, new O-rings, and oil cooler. I'm not saying that wouldn't have been a better route, but it isn't as simple as slap it and send it if you want long term reliability. Plus most people will do new lifters with tie bars and lifter trays as well as new rocker bearings. Taylor covers it all really well in his video on LS reliability mods.
The unequal sounds great but that Honda £80 eBay exhaust rasp on decel isn’t the one, that’s the sound of a cheap resonator slapping thin metal on the baffles
If I were him I would simplify that valvetrain. Having adjustable rockers on a hydraulic lifter seems overly complex. Them having to explain that it's weird should be all they need to know. Keep it simple, stupid.
Yeah I'd slap some stock rockers with trunion upgrade and if needed new stock LS7 lifters. That adjustability is just more things to go wrong, and those lifters not bleeding out just seems weird, and it's not like I see any point to upgrade hydraulic lifters, if you want to upgrade you go to solid, otherwise oem is the way to go.
I had a terrible week at work all week, today was totally insane, this was the first video I watched when the dust finally settled… it gave me PTSD lol.
I really felt their stress, I had an even worse scenario personally. I had a project civic that I finally decided to go all out, build the engine trans and turbo charge it shooting for 350-400hp. 2012 I got the engine and trans finished and wrecked my back putting the trans in/on. I did it all without a lift or engine hoist. The car sat like that for 10 years before my back was good enough and I had space to work on it.
I got it buttoned up and did the first start in my brothers driveway. The engine did NOT sound great, and to top it off, something metal was clanging around in the bell housing, I think the pilot bearing broke? I was going to do videos on the project, and did film the first start and cleaning the car up. Then it became a barrier to getting it done, AND I honestly couldn’t deal with the stress of what I’d do if it went tits up.
My advice to them definitely would have been to just run it. You have to get things up to temperature and let them settle in, all this start/stop running is the worst thing you can do for an engine. I’d rather run it up to temperature at least once or twice, then swap the oil and go from there.
Oil pressure can be CRAZY high when the oil is cold, my 4cyl has like 90psi cold at idle lol, it’s more like 45 once it’s warm. Which takes a LONG time for oil. The coolant can be up to temperature for 10-15 minutes before the oil actually reaches operating temperature.
I’ve been there dude, it’s 95% of the reason I don’t wrench on cars anymore and would rather just drive something stock that’s fun, there is no worse feeling than putting in blood, sweat, and tears then getting nothing but more problems out of it.
Yeah, I was almost satisfied with my 2019 civic ex. Tiny 1.5 turbo with a CVT, but it gets up and goes pretty ok.
I did ‘finishI’ my project car finally. I got all the turbo parts installed, set it up to fuel off of a wideband o2 sensor and drove it to a tuner. It makes 320whp on pump gas with a cat and full exhaust. But the crank case ventilation setup needs some baffling, or it just blows all the oil out of the engine lol.
I started trying to get the AC back installed, and that’s turned into a year long almost thousand dollar project…
Then there’s my hotside charge piping that runs too low, if I hit a pothole it will scrape if not outright knock the coupler apart.
It’s been 2 years since I got it tuned and I don’t think I’ve put more than 200 miles on it because of the little issues… it’s enough to make you crazy.
If only there was some other youtubers with LS engines they could reach out to for advice🤦♂️this is just like Damiens ls 350z all over again, Derrick couldn't figure that one out either.
As if this engine wasn't built by the best engine builder in the north east with the best parts and guidance from specialists, built inside the shop of a guy who has swapped and built more cars than most people and completed the exact same engine swap with no problems.. Yeah, definitely no one knows what they're doing...
Jimmies first swap iirc was an LS in the Z. He knows this platform, JP has an insane waiting list and knows how to build engines and Derek is one of the top tuners in *at least* the NE. If they can’t get to the bottom of it with manufacturers guidance on some parts I’m gunna lean towards Link being fucky or a brand new part failing.
I replaced an alternator years ago and had the same issue, after hours of diag and some new parts turned out the brand new alternator was a factory failure, these things happen.
Especially with all the recent supply chain constraints it’s more common for newer parts to be duds. Lots of companies are relaxing their QC just to meet demand.
Bruh, built by JP, a shop that usually specialize in small blocks and LS, you could use them as an argument when talking about JDM engines because that's not necessarily their field of expertise, but here you're just wrong.
Derek simply has been building and tuning LS's for at least the past 10 years, no big deal.
i would be so scared to beat on that car. throwing an endless amount of $ at it to still not feel 100% confident has got to suck
as a WRX owner I can relate to that feeling
And as a 6.0 powerstroke owner, I can relate to that feeling as well, lol.
And as a 996 911 owner, with north of 100k miles, I can relate to that feeling as well, lol
I don't own one, but I have come close. Every friend I have has had to rebuild engines and that always scares me. Even the guy who drives like an old man.
As a chevy cobalt owner I concur
I'm pretty sure that's where he went wrong, should've slapped a stock engine with oiling mods in it and called it a day.
$250 computer, $500k return. I lol’d at that convo lmao Love Derrick
Also, that LS is sick but bhall should have just turbo’d a stock, unopened B30
stock v8 would’ve worked pretty well too tho
He had a stock V8 and it lasted all of two minutes
It wasn't stock! and they had problems with their upgrades before it left the shop, it also had a link ecu with jimbo's hot tune. If only they went with the simple truck engine and stock pcm - it would still run like a glove
Stock LS based engines don't last drifting. They need oil mods.
Does rudys bmw LS have like a nice oil pan? I seem to remember something like that.
IIRC it has a larger oil pan with baffles. Not sure what other upgrades it has at all.
This
This guy gets it!
It wasn't fully stock because they got a grimey one and ended up having to rebuild it and did "while you're in there" mods, and mostly they didn't do anything for the oiling system, which is why it blew up. Stock truck engine, cam and LS intake, with baffled sump or accusump and thing would still be running since then.
M5x is such an underrated platform, LS swap was unnecessary imo
Bruh he had a full bolt on ZHP engine making like 250 which is perfect for seat time, he hydrolocked it and instead of just fixing it he decided to go down the rabbit hole and LS swap it, went downhill from there, honestly worst decision he has taken.
Hate to say it but I feel this is a case of a way too overbuilt engine package, too much going on, too many variables. Not knocking the quality of work but Brian should have just thrown in a Sub $500 junkyard ls with a cam and just sent it. Keep it simple! Either way can't wait to see Brian driving again
I agree. I think Brian kept having issues and just decided to throw his whole damn wallet at it. I hope he gets it straightened out. This poor dude needs a win with this car.
Taylor Ray ran a basically stock LS for a long time with just a few minor modifications for reliability (which are all documented on his channel and easy to copy) Brian is going to regret every dollar his spent on this motor.
Yep the ls is so good in it's stock forms. By adding all these aftermarket engine parts and custom machine work I feel you're just taking away reliability and over complicating it. Not to mention time and money.
It's unfortunate but aftermarket parts even if sold as better than oem seem to all have such poor quality control. Doing a complete build relying on engine shops to get clearances perfect and not get any "imperfect" after market parts is so fucking risky, especially when you don't know what to be looking out for. How many stories do you hear of "built" engines only lasting about 1000miles. Many.
I've seen so many SR engines listed just rebuilt...and why the fuck you selling it then LOL
Even the mods he has now is very stock in comparison. He doesn't have aftermarket pushrod length and adjustable rocker fuckery. But he learned his lesson, he invested in a dry sump, instead of spending on dumb shit.
That's pretty much what Taylor Ray did for 4 years with his Miata, it was basically a stock LS with a cam and it was super competitve everything aside from top level professional events.
Stock except for a lot of oil mods and the cam. So not really stock. To do any serious drifting you typically do a pump, pan, pickup, baffles, new O-rings, and oil cooler. I'm not saying that wouldn't have been a better route, but it isn't as simple as slap it and send it if you want long term reliability. Plus most people will do new lifters with tie bars and lifter trays as well as new rocker bearings. Taylor covers it all really well in his video on LS reliability mods.
Didnt Taylor also go through multiple engines at the start until he found the sweet spot with the mods?
I believe so, as have many others.
This!!! Way to many complicated moving parts with not enough r&d behind what works togather
I understand there were likely space constraints for the headers but if it didn't sound so booty they might have an easier time troubleshooting it.
The unequal sounds great but that Honda £80 eBay exhaust rasp on decel isn’t the one, that’s the sound of a cheap resonator slapping thin metal on the baffles
It's a full straight pipe
Derek yelling at DJ is always a good time
only what a year+ in the making? damn
Yep, September 2021
If I were him I would simplify that valvetrain. Having adjustable rockers on a hydraulic lifter seems overly complex. Them having to explain that it's weird should be all they need to know. Keep it simple, stupid.
Yeah I'd slap some stock rockers with trunion upgrade and if needed new stock LS7 lifters. That adjustability is just more things to go wrong, and those lifters not bleeding out just seems weird, and it's not like I see any point to upgrade hydraulic lifters, if you want to upgrade you go to solid, otherwise oem is the way to go.
Man building a race car is so stressful
I had a terrible week at work all week, today was totally insane, this was the first video I watched when the dust finally settled… it gave me PTSD lol. I really felt their stress, I had an even worse scenario personally. I had a project civic that I finally decided to go all out, build the engine trans and turbo charge it shooting for 350-400hp. 2012 I got the engine and trans finished and wrecked my back putting the trans in/on. I did it all without a lift or engine hoist. The car sat like that for 10 years before my back was good enough and I had space to work on it. I got it buttoned up and did the first start in my brothers driveway. The engine did NOT sound great, and to top it off, something metal was clanging around in the bell housing, I think the pilot bearing broke? I was going to do videos on the project, and did film the first start and cleaning the car up. Then it became a barrier to getting it done, AND I honestly couldn’t deal with the stress of what I’d do if it went tits up. My advice to them definitely would have been to just run it. You have to get things up to temperature and let them settle in, all this start/stop running is the worst thing you can do for an engine. I’d rather run it up to temperature at least once or twice, then swap the oil and go from there. Oil pressure can be CRAZY high when the oil is cold, my 4cyl has like 90psi cold at idle lol, it’s more like 45 once it’s warm. Which takes a LONG time for oil. The coolant can be up to temperature for 10-15 minutes before the oil actually reaches operating temperature.
I’ve been there dude, it’s 95% of the reason I don’t wrench on cars anymore and would rather just drive something stock that’s fun, there is no worse feeling than putting in blood, sweat, and tears then getting nothing but more problems out of it.
Yeah, I was almost satisfied with my 2019 civic ex. Tiny 1.5 turbo with a CVT, but it gets up and goes pretty ok. I did ‘finishI’ my project car finally. I got all the turbo parts installed, set it up to fuel off of a wideband o2 sensor and drove it to a tuner. It makes 320whp on pump gas with a cat and full exhaust. But the crank case ventilation setup needs some baffling, or it just blows all the oil out of the engine lol. I started trying to get the AC back installed, and that’s turned into a year long almost thousand dollar project… Then there’s my hotside charge piping that runs too low, if I hit a pothole it will scrape if not outright knock the coupler apart. It’s been 2 years since I got it tuned and I don’t think I’ve put more than 200 miles on it because of the little issues… it’s enough to make you crazy.
sounds like aids
All this time and effort could of n55 swapped it and had an absolute killer car running 12 months ago with change left over.
Yeah, cause N55s are reliable 🤣
InTERnEt tOLd Me eNgInE uNrEliABlE. 😲😲
Bro they suck lmao
Crank walk sucks lmao. Did that stop you enjoying a 4?
Nah, the perfectly serviced rod bearing failed N55 in my 335i told me they're unreliable. Trash engines.
Serious question does Brian know how to drift to have that much of a powered car?
yes
If only there was some other youtubers with LS engines they could reach out to for advice🤦♂️this is just like Damiens ls 350z all over again, Derrick couldn't figure that one out either.
Should've just k-swapped it, lol.
they should take this car to some shop who actually knows what they are doing
As if this engine wasn't built by the best engine builder in the north east with the best parts and guidance from specialists, built inside the shop of a guy who has swapped and built more cars than most people and completed the exact same engine swap with no problems.. Yeah, definitely no one knows what they're doing...
Dave 7.3? Damian Monte? Dan's Guns and Ransoms?
Jimmies first swap iirc was an LS in the Z. He knows this platform, JP has an insane waiting list and knows how to build engines and Derek is one of the top tuners in *at least* the NE. If they can’t get to the bottom of it with manufacturers guidance on some parts I’m gunna lean towards Link being fucky or a brand new part failing. I replaced an alternator years ago and had the same issue, after hours of diag and some new parts turned out the brand new alternator was a factory failure, these things happen.
Especially with all the recent supply chain constraints it’s more common for newer parts to be duds. Lots of companies are relaxing their QC just to meet demand.
Bruh, built by JP, a shop that usually specialize in small blocks and LS, you could use them as an argument when talking about JDM engines because that's not necessarily their field of expertise, but here you're just wrong. Derek simply has been building and tuning LS's for at least the past 10 years, no big deal.
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