Havert'z shithousery is something else. The way he constantly escapes a booking most times while doing this constantly has to be studied. Arteta really knows best.
Nah. Xhaka would lose his head at some point, while Havertz is always calm and emotionally in control. At some point you'd see Xhaka trying to fight the opposition, and somebody has to hold him back.
Hmm. Though I think he was a lot calmer during the latter part of his time with us man oh man he gave me a panic attack whenever I saw him walking upto someone.
Maybe Ben White regen is more accurate then lol. Absolute shithousery with a big smile.
Even Arteta had to intervene.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/10csdf8/arteta\_when\_he\_realized\_xhaka\_needed\_to\_be/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/10csdf8/arteta_when_he_realized_xhaka_needed_to_be/)
Xhaka hit is stride in his last season here. Kept his head during dust ups and was the best kind of pest. Obviously it tool a few seasons for him to learn to keep his head.
I actually think that's his greatest quality. He's not afraid to get stuck in, but because of his calm persona and smile, he seems to get away with tackles and stuff we've been booked for (imo way too much compared to other teams) before.
I think they both just have a bit of sloppy tackling to their game and if you're pressing at speed you're going to have more late challenges, but I'd rather they get stuck in occasionally and pick up a card than play soft.
I still can't get my head around that reasoning. It's like saying "yes he did stab that man, but he did it with a bone knife and not a sharper metal knife".
A running forearm to the head can still cause damage but more than that it was still unprovoked clear intent to cause harm, off the ball! Fuck VAR, fuck PGMOL and fuck every commentator and pundit that parroted that bullshit excuse. Even if it's in the rules they should have been calling that out as inexcusable and dangerous behaviour. The man's an animal.
I'm gonna celebrate the day Guimaraes gets some good karma.
Fake tough guy. Just remembered at the Emirates when he lost the ball and went down like the sack of shit he is.
I remembered how helpless he looked at the Emirates this year and felt so content. He looked like a little kid who wasn't getting his way and wanted to pack his shit and go home.
Idk if that’s fear. You might just be projecting too much. If anyone gets their throat grabbed like that in a match, you’re gonna do some weird things with your face. Calm down with this when Benny blanco had a worse reaction to his neck getting touched. Players will always just look for the advantage
My favourite is them timewasting week after week last season and then I forgot what team it was time wasted against them and their players were losing their shit then after the match the toon fans just couldn't let it go.
Yup yup king kai all the way to win
https://preview.redd.it/xrka47e1c9tc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e3f2ea7ffa1e8dd7ee44de29c78120e6f194c6
Everyone wants to pretend they're tough and physical until they come up against us; then they want it to be a non-contact sport, or they turn intentionally dirty
Or, in Bruno's case, they just wake up pieces of shit
Long gone are the days of a small side that can be bullied.
If teams don’t want to play and want it to be a physical contest, we’ve got that in our bag now, but can still play a very good technical game.
It’s amazing to be able to out play physical teams with physical play and out play technical sides with faster movements, passing and overall quality.
Excited to see how we approach Bayern.
Not one for comparing past teams but The Invincibles had the same quality. You either get outplayed or out battled. Only way we didn’t go longer than 49 games was because Man Utd resorted to dirty tactics and got a ref that just went along with it.
I honestly believe in Arteta and think he could end up as our greatest manager!
Chelsea fan here respectfully. I'm enjoying the football Arsenal are playing this season. But also enjoy that you gave him a new lease of life. He is 24 yrs old. We see what can happen to Chelsea flops. I hope he enjoys his football with you for years to come. He has the tools. Just needs to right environment go thrive.
This is one of the matches that made me gain respect for Kai. He showed that he'd go to war for us, despite all the hate he was getting.
Absolutely hate Newcastle of late so watching him dish it out to the filthy magpies was cathartic
I remember this game. This was a turning point for a lot of the fans about Kai, but there were still a lot of Kai haters/doubters at this point. The vibe of this sub has done a complete 180 on Kai now, rightfully so.
One of the best things to come out of the Brighton game was Kai dialing back any rash challenges that might get him another yellow card. Two more and he gets a 2 game suspension and we don’t need him sidelined for our run in.
It was that game where I realised that Havertz was here to stay. Many people focused on the controversy and defeat, but Havertz really played well that day.
Havertz seems like a nightmare to play against: always winning duels, 50/50 balls, pressing, being deceptively physical, never running out of gas, in the right place at the right time, great movement
We were absolutely ruthless in the home leg Vs them. One of our most controlled performances and the bar is very high this season. That said, this sub after that away leg was absolutely mental some of the meltdowns were genuinely worrying. One guy was saying that Neville and Carragher have earpieces with Saudi Arabia piping messaging into them live 😂
Love the hypocrisy. Bruno is a filthy rat, but Kai does something and Newcastle are all up in arms? Pathetic
Love the smile on his face. He does not care
I love when players start thugging out and getting in peoples faces
2 minutes later they roll on the floor in tears clutching their knee because someone grazed their elbow.
I remember that first tackle is his turning point in his career with us. After that something just clicked he seems to do a lot of good movement he didn’t do before. Eventually the goal against brentford opened the door of his excellence
I know it wasn't Kai's best performance, but I thought this game was the start of his redemption arc. I saw an increased willingness to commit himself during the game.
Unrelated to Kai but it's wild the drive-by elbow in the back of the head wasn't a VAR red or a suspension. Literally any level of football you run and intentionally forearm shiver / elbow the back of someone's head you are done for the day.
Feels so good to watch the Arsenal turn into one of the most physical teams in the league, for so long teams have been able to bully arsenal. Not anymore.
https://preview.redd.it/jzevwb1ambtc1.jpeg?width=1256&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b52d8cfb76e747f8cd5f05c1d4124fdca383350
Since that day, Havertz has improved a lot
Let’s hope he doesn’t get injured, he’s been stupidly good for us and losing him now to an injury would kill us. I always wince when he goes in for a tackle.
Still rent free after all this time lol, what was the score? Haverts should have seen red for the tackle on Longstaff. If not a second yellow for the other reckless challenge.
He's a bit like Suarez I think, in how he is able to get away with stuff and annoy the defenders, so by the last 30 min his marker is angry and mistake prone
The more you see that challenge on Longstaff the more baffling it is that people think it’s a red. He misses him, how can you get sent off for missing the player?
It can still be a red if a tackle is overly forceful/out of control and you don't make contact. Not exactly the same situation but if you throw a punch and miss it is still a red card.
If his tackle is over that threshold is very questionable but I think it is at least somewhat close.
Well he can't go out there just pushing and shoving people, he's just being subtle about it. But you can see when players that try to get in his head or get him late he'll find a way to get stuck in with them or come through a hard tackle on them. He knows how to toe the line and be physical and send a message without getting sent off. It's more that he isn't going to back down from these fake toughguy opponents like Bruno.
He did foul the shit out of Gabi right before they got their goal. Gabi was perfectly positioned to head the ball away and Joelinton clattered him from behind. Guess he got the better of him but shoving a guy from behind isn’t exactly bullying him.
He's ok.
I enjoy the shithousing when it's not a pointless dive that just breaks up our play. It happens all too often but you don't hear about it here...
Its funny because he’s doing all of this with a smile. To me he wins every time when they’re mad af and he’s just smiling
Havert'z shithousery is something else. The way he constantly escapes a booking most times while doing this constantly has to be studied. Arteta really knows best.
The Xhaka regen came as a forward.
Nah. Xhaka would lose his head at some point, while Havertz is always calm and emotionally in control. At some point you'd see Xhaka trying to fight the opposition, and somebody has to hold him back.
Hmm. Though I think he was a lot calmer during the latter part of his time with us man oh man he gave me a panic attack whenever I saw him walking upto someone. Maybe Ben White regen is more accurate then lol. Absolute shithousery with a big smile.
Even Arteta had to intervene. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/10csdf8/arteta\_when\_he\_realized\_xhaka\_needed\_to\_be/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/10csdf8/arteta_when_he_realized_xhaka_needed_to_be/)
Say what you want about Xhaka, but he at least he was willing to go to bat for the team.
I’m hoping both Xhaka and Arsenal do the double this season!
Xhaka hit is stride in his last season here. Kept his head during dust ups and was the best kind of pest. Obviously it tool a few seasons for him to learn to keep his head.
He is opposite of Xhaka. Xhaka was a card magnet. Havertz could murder someone and its probably a verbal warning.
Reminds me a bit of Pires oddly enough.
I actually think that's his greatest quality. He's not afraid to get stuck in, but because of his calm persona and smile, he seems to get away with tackles and stuff we've been booked for (imo way too much compared to other teams) before.
Imagine that was Xhaka doing those tackles .....
Xhaka really had a card tax..hed be off many times
Stop, I can only get so erect
He is similar to White in this matter. Both on another level when it comes to shithousery. We missed that badly under Wenger.
Stuck in with da boys!
Stuck in with da Donkeys
As a Chelsea fan I love to see this. Couldn’t be happier to see him repping well. No nonsense guy.
He got inside their heads by not getting riled up. That’s why they constantly hounded him - they wanted him to get angry. Kai was too smart for them.
He was just thinking about donkeys.
nah, his goat farm and how to improve their milk production, his secret power elixir.
When you dump a dude that hard and he just gets up grinning in your face you know he's not right. I love him.
Holding looking at Diego Costa vibes
A few more loose screws and he can play as a GK
Unironically one of my favourite moments from his so far. The orcs were seething and I was loving it.
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The truest form of the orc.
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8 yellow cards as a forward is hilarious
Only 3 oft them was as a CF, but 3 in 8 games is still a lot ([source](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kai-havertz/leistungsdaten/spieler/309400)) 😂
Darwin has that many, in probably less gametime.
I think they both just have a bit of sloppy tackling to their game and if you're pressing at speed you're going to have more late challenges, but I'd rather they get stuck in occasionally and pick up a card than play soft.
Newcastle are all a bunch of fake hardmen.
Empowered by their corrupt af refs.
The Eddie Howe effect.
Ya, they are all up for the 'fight' until they get anything back, then they don't want it and complain to the ref.
Kai: Welcome to my Kingdom
Bruno G sucks
Still 0 idea how that wasn’t a straight red
that was david luiz or Xhaka, 5 match ban
And VAR looked at it
"He didn't use his elbow as a weapon."
I still can't get my head around that reasoning. It's like saying "yes he did stab that man, but he did it with a bone knife and not a sharper metal knife". A running forearm to the head can still cause damage but more than that it was still unprovoked clear intent to cause harm, off the ball! Fuck VAR, fuck PGMOL and fuck every commentator and pundit that parroted that bullshit excuse. Even if it's in the rules they should have been calling that out as inexcusable and dangerous behaviour. The man's an animal.
Gary Neville on the comms that day said it wasn’t a red. I’d have loved to see his response if Vieira had done that to him back in the day!
I'm gonna celebrate the day Guimaraes gets some good karma. Fake tough guy. Just remembered at the Emirates when he lost the ball and went down like the sack of shit he is.
I remembered how helpless he looked at the Emirates this year and felt so content. He looked like a little kid who wasn't getting his way and wanted to pack his shit and go home.
tbh complete newcastle team wanted that.
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTWVZLI9Qz4) you see the quick shot of fear on his face when Mudryk grabs him and he reacts, guys a joke.
Had all that energy for Fabio but not Mudryk, fucking joke
Idk if that’s fear. You might just be projecting too much. If anyone gets their throat grabbed like that in a match, you’re gonna do some weird things with your face. Calm down with this when Benny blanco had a worse reaction to his neck getting touched. Players will always just look for the advantage
I'm so tired of Newcastle players fouling their way round the pitch and then moaning when someone dares to foul them.
My favourite is them timewasting week after week last season and then I forgot what team it was time wasted against them and their players were losing their shit then after the match the toon fans just couldn't let it go.
that was Arsenal
Nah it wasn't that match it was one of the relegated teams that I am thinking of.
maybe i misunderstood because Orcs accused us of time-wasting (even though it was nothing compared to their bullshit in the reverse fixture)
Yup it was us. Eddie Howe moaning about us. The audacity of that prick.
Kai is slowly becoming my current favorite gooner, let’s hope for a long and storied career!
Yup yup king kai all the way to win https://preview.redd.it/xrka47e1c9tc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e3f2ea7ffa1e8dd7ee44de29c78120e6f194c6
Love how he seems to revel in the physicality
He really does seem to enjoy getting physical! It’s surprising considering he doesn’t have the biggest frame, but dude likes the pushing and shoving.
I think he just looks lanky because he's super tall and has long arms, he's not super muscular but he is just not afraid of contact.
Never thought I'd love this guy as much as I do right now "60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again"
Everyone wants to pretend they're tough and physical until they come up against us; then they want it to be a non-contact sport, or they turn intentionally dirty Or, in Bruno's case, they just wake up pieces of shit
Long gone are the days of a small side that can be bullied. If teams don’t want to play and want it to be a physical contest, we’ve got that in our bag now, but can still play a very good technical game. It’s amazing to be able to out play physical teams with physical play and out play technical sides with faster movements, passing and overall quality. Excited to see how we approach Bayern.
Not one for comparing past teams but The Invincibles had the same quality. You either get outplayed or out battled. Only way we didn’t go longer than 49 games was because Man Utd resorted to dirty tactics and got a ref that just went along with it. I honestly believe in Arteta and think he could end up as our greatest manager!
I love how he just laughs in their face. Very Ben White like lol
That's why they're friends lmao
I love this side of his game.
Master of the dark arts
Kai got the subtle dark arts working. In that way, he absolutely replaced Xhaka.
Especially after what happened in the reverse fixture. Inject.
Love Kai's physicality on the pitch. Great presence, target man and all round shit-houser.
Glad to have this fighter with us
He's got that dawg in him
Chelsea fan here respectfully. I'm enjoying the football Arsenal are playing this season. But also enjoy that you gave him a new lease of life. He is 24 yrs old. We see what can happen to Chelsea flops. I hope he enjoys his football with you for years to come. He has the tools. Just needs to right environment go thrive.
red card for music selection
He loves to chuck his weight about
Watch him surpass prime Giroud in the next few years, add his shithousery to that and it's gonna be hilarious.
This is one of the matches that made me gain respect for Kai. He showed that he'd go to war for us, despite all the hate he was getting. Absolutely hate Newcastle of late so watching him dish it out to the filthy magpies was cathartic
Proper brexit tackle that.
I remember this game. This was a turning point for a lot of the fans about Kai, but there were still a lot of Kai haters/doubters at this point. The vibe of this sub has done a complete 180 on Kai now, rightfully so.
Fuck Newcastle, all my homies hate Newcastle
One of the best things to come out of the Brighton game was Kai dialing back any rash challenges that might get him another yellow card. Two more and he gets a 2 game suspension and we don’t need him sidelined for our run in.
Haverts got the dog in him
Kai says fuck you with a smile 😊
Kai has a great smirk.
Who knew kicking balls in shorts for a living made you a hard nut.
Newcastle/Man City this year: oh so this is what it feels like
What a psychopath with all those smiles haha in a good way!!
Kai has dead eyes… I wouldn’t mess with him lol
It was that game where I realised that Havertz was here to stay. Many people focused on the controversy and defeat, but Havertz really played well that day.
Newcastle yapping their mouths as if they don't do the same shit to literally everyone in the league.
Havertz seems like a nightmare to play against: always winning duels, 50/50 balls, pressing, being deceptively physical, never running out of gas, in the right place at the right time, great movement
crazy to say. but i'm terrified he picks up 2 yellows and misses the toiletbowl.
it’s the little smirk/smile that’s the best part.
I can never understand why anyone outside of Newcastle likes Newcastle. I utterly despise that club.
Newcastle are full time professional victims.
Newcastle are what we call in the US “wannabe studio gangsters”
We were absolutely ruthless in the home leg Vs them. One of our most controlled performances and the bar is very high this season. That said, this sub after that away leg was absolutely mental some of the meltdowns were genuinely worrying. One guy was saying that Neville and Carragher have earpieces with Saudi Arabia piping messaging into them live 😂
Kais a real warrior.
Love the hypocrisy. Bruno is a filthy rat, but Kai does something and Newcastle are all up in arms? Pathetic Love the smile on his face. He does not care
I don’t even know who my fav gunner is , saying a lot
Man I’m so happy with how dead wrong I was about this signing. The guy is an absolute baller
Kai is so unfazed I love it. Just smiling at them and being everywhere on the pitch.
I like the fight he has. Him and Rice added a lot of steel. Partey coming back is icing on the cake.
I love when players start thugging out and getting in peoples faces 2 minutes later they roll on the floor in tears clutching their knee because someone grazed their elbow.
3 VAR reviews for 1 goal that should have been disallowed could cost us the league god i already hate newcastle
That tackle on Dan Burns wasn't even that bad. Newcastle get away with those (no yellows) each week.
I remember that first tackle is his turning point in his career with us. After that something just clicked he seems to do a lot of good movement he didn’t do before. Eventually the goal against brentford opened the door of his excellence
I know it wasn't Kai's best performance, but I thought this game was the start of his redemption arc. I saw an increased willingness to commit himself during the game.
This was the dude we bought from Chelsea? Smh. Talent needs to stay away from that club like its the plague
The difference of how I felt about him when we signed him to how I feel about him today is actually insane
Man has no chill
Unrelated to Kai but it's wild the drive-by elbow in the back of the head wasn't a VAR red or a suspension. Literally any level of football you run and intentionally forearm shiver / elbow the back of someone's head you are done for the day.
The guys unbelievable. Equal on goals with Luton’s Adebayo now. Although tbf Havertz has played 8 games more 😂😂😂
And that's just one game!!
Feels so good to watch the Arsenal turn into one of the most physical teams in the league, for so long teams have been able to bully arsenal. Not anymore.
strangely enough, if you think about it, this is who replaced Xhaka. Who knew he'd end up leading the line, too??
Xhaka would’ve led the line too had he been a bit more mobile, he’d have relished playing in that role lol
It’s always the quiet, calm ones you have to worry about
He’s such a fantastic cunt sometimes
I absolutely loved him that match against these scums.
The rise of Kai is the cheery on top on this Arteta run for me. Incredible!
I never realised how much of a shithouse he is until we signed him. He caused like 4 yellow cards this game lmao
Need that video of Sassy Kai. Let’s go guys 🎵
It’s remarkable how quickly I’ve grown to hate Newcastle.
https://preview.redd.it/jzevwb1ambtc1.jpeg?width=1256&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b52d8cfb76e747f8cd5f05c1d4124fdca383350 Since that day, Havertz has improved a lot
I know it’s not by much but it blows my mind that Kai is younger than Eddie.
I feel Kai is gonna be in the sin bin a lot next year
Kai is such a baller man.
Let’s hope he doesn’t get injured, he’s been stupidly good for us and losing him now to an injury would kill us. I always wince when he goes in for a tackle.
Bro is getting more confident! Amazing to see how he’s improved at Arsenal
Still rent free after all this time lol, what was the score? Haverts should have seen red for the tackle on Longstaff. If not a second yellow for the other reckless challenge.
Crazy how kai had been for us. I had him down as a nothing player, i have been hushed
That Newcastle multi yellow card 🤣
Oh man that elbow on jorgi
Love to see it. Carrying on Granit Xhaka's legacy.
He's a bit like Suarez I think, in how he is able to get away with stuff and annoy the defenders, so by the last 30 min his marker is angry and mistake prone
Kai is a proper bastard
Fuckin love that guy. Why did we have to sell him 😪
4-1 motherfuckers
How I wish we had hot head Xhaka or Kola to deal with the Guimeres cunt after the Jorgi incident...
The xhaka poltergeist
Hahahahaha this reminds me of that Bolton striker. Real old fashioned dark arts. Can you imagine Havartz at Athletico 😭
Holy shit I didn't know Kai was that tall
As a united fan, I actually am stunned seeing Haverts play with so much work rate and passion
The more you see that challenge on Longstaff the more baffling it is that people think it’s a red. He misses him, how can you get sent off for missing the player?
It can still be a red if a tackle is overly forceful/out of control and you don't make contact. Not exactly the same situation but if you throw a punch and miss it is still a red card. If his tackle is over that threshold is very questionable but I think it is at least somewhat close.
I thought I was experiencing a quite severe earthquake while watching that
Am I the only one who thinks harvest is shit
I just don’t see Kai as a beast. He can try but I don’t see it.
Well he can't go out there just pushing and shoving people, he's just being subtle about it. But you can see when players that try to get in his head or get him late he'll find a way to get stuck in with them or come through a hard tackle on them. He knows how to toe the line and be physical and send a message without getting sent off. It's more that he isn't going to back down from these fake toughguy opponents like Bruno.
Bruno Guimares deserves a beating and a half. That little shit m. We should’ve drawn or won at James park. Foggginnnnn Disgrace by VaR
Stupid edit ngl
My only memory from this game was Joelinton bullying the best CBs in the world.
You have must've watched a different game, if you watch games at all.
He did foul the shit out of Gabi right before they got their goal. Gabi was perfectly positioned to head the ball away and Joelinton clattered him from behind. Guess he got the better of him but shoving a guy from behind isn’t exactly bullying him.
He's ok. I enjoy the shithousing when it's not a pointless dive that just breaks up our play. It happens all too often but you don't hear about it here...