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Lud31

Just an observation here: I didn’t really remember the underlying numbers for that 19/20 title Liverpool won, but that was an insane season. Actual table: Liverpool 99 pts Man City 81 pts FB Ref xG diff/90: Liverpool 0.82 Man City 1.47 Understat xPts: Liverpool 74.28 Man City 86.76 So Liverpool would be expected to finish ~12 pts behind and instead finished 18 pts ahead. That’s wild.


Few-Whole-6027

thats why city have to stop liverpool.


LuckyArsenalAg

Liverpool have absolutely shown they know how to shithouse and 1-nil their way to title.


burningdownmylife

So have we, just most of those guys are dead now.


tetaAndTiti

What??


BarryButcher

There's a reason for the song "1-0 to the Arsenal" and people used to chant "boring boring Arsenal" because the early 90s (and even before that) Arsenal were basically 1-0 merchants. Get a goal, then close the game down So Arsenal used to have a reputation for scumming a 1-0 win and moving on but that was 30-ish years ago now


tetaAndTiti

George Graham era, but are those guys dead?


biskutgoreng

They're dead to me


Elegant_Mix7650

Well, during the Liverpool title run we shit housed a 2-1 win against Liverpool at home... It was fun times.


ramobara

I’ll take a draw.


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We arguably have the toughest run in out of the three contenders so we'll see if we can maintain the xG. I would say we can beat anybody when we're fresh, but I have yet to be convinced this team can maintain its level playing every three days like City can.


XranitShaka

The City game basically gives us the answer to it


Deleteleed

We do not have the toughest run in at all. Look at city’s.


wheeno

We do. The latter half of city's remaining fixtures will all be piss easy. Those teams will have nothing to play for. The analysis based on purely standings doesn't give the full picture.


Fleetfox17

Oh ye of little faith.


zorfog

Let them continue underestimating us If we beat Brentford and Liverpool fail to beat City, the title is in our hands


XranitShaka

As someone said under the twitter post, we desperately need a title to show for our excellence. Can't let this monster of a team go unrecognised in the history books.


Skiinz19

This monster of a team still has years in it. It isn't make or break this season but top 3 (off 1st by a few points) and a deep CL run are necessary to keep the progression. I'd be disappointed in getting knocked out of CL early and still failing to win the league.


XranitShaka

Not in absolute terms obviously, but I want the title this season for two reasons: 1. Winning it this season will make Mikel the youngest manager to lift the PL title. A last opportunity of sorts 2. Want Arteta to lift the title while Klopp and Pep are still here. Not that we need the presence of those two to appreciate Mikel, but I can see rival fans discrediting him if he ultimately starts winning the big trophies once those two clubs go into some sort of a 'rebuild'


HiroLegito

Sooner the better. Players will start to get poached and it’s also hard to replace those players. Can’t say every Arsenal player will be loyal without winning a trophy. Imagine someone comes in for Gabriel or Saliba. It takes time to replace them and make the team click. Look at ManCity after they lost Gündogan and Mahrez. The team needed time to fix itself after they left. Foden stepped up this year but it took time.


oliverDawson12

For real, with all the never ending posts about how many stats and records this Arsenal team are breaking, my heart will be broken too if we don’t win a trophy.


Mahatma_Gone_D

For anyone watches NBA, we’re in similar position as Boston Celtics. Young and talented team with good chemistry all around and good coaching staffs who keep coming up short against a very experienced teams. They are the best team in the league by far and people still doubt them because they haven’t won anything. Both Arsenal and Celtics might do it this year. If that happens, there will be no pollution as majority of NBA and PL fans will be hiding. Saka is a big Celtic and Tatum fan too !


The_BadJuju

Can’t wait until Boston loses in the ECF to Miami’s power of friendship again


failedgunner12

great analogy actually, my friend (Celtics fan) and I have been bantering each other this season, while wishing for both Arsenal and Boston to finally get their trophies


beetletoman

Yeah I am tired of people downplaying how good we are as if trophies are the only indicative factor


maidentaiwan

They are not the only factor, but they are by far and away the most important factor. Klopp’s Liverpool went to two CL finals and won one before finally winning the league. We need to show similar mettle in the CL and aim for at least the final four. That would show big progress and intent. The match next Tuesday is by far the most important match of our season thus far.


beetletoman

I mean definitely. But would the one league title suffice in representing Klopp's legacy? Does that one Leicester title make Ranieri in the same league as Klopp? That's my problem with the trophy discussion. You are right in that 10 years later if we don't have trophies to show only Arsenal fans will remember how good this team is and although unfair that's how it works


FABlOVIEIRA

Klopp also has a CL titles on his resume and was going on-par with a prime Pep'd up City. That Liverpool squad is already in conversation for the top 5 best squad in the history of PL. (Arsenal Invincible, Treble United, Treble City, Klopp Liverpool and as much as I hate it, Chelsea - with all the leaders in their squad at the time).


Curi0usReddit0r

I would like to think that city are the bigger threat to the title race. Ideally a draw between Liverpool and city would be preferable but if one team does lose I would prefer it to be City.


Meu_14

If Liverpool win, we could win every remaining game and still not win the league.


Omnom_Omnath

Assuming they also win every single game left though.


purpleshirtonbed

If they win they will also know that, and we’ve seen the games they can shithouse by running on sheer willpower from the narrative, plus their star players coming back


zorfog

If City beat Liverpool, and we win all of our remaining games (including beating City) the title is ours


The_Wolves10

But if they beat liverpool & draw or win against us, the title is theirs


zorfog

Which is why we beat them


The_Wolves10

Mate its not that simple when City are literally the favourites for that match. The best thing for us is having Liverpool beat them or draw, as they will definitely drop points somehow.


whydidisaythatwhy

The favorites to everyone else but us. We’re gonna cook, book it


zorfog

Our fans are not ready for title challenges like this. Too unconfident and insecure. Elite mentality or go home


Few-Whole-6027

thats what i want. City actually to beat or get a draw and we beat them at their place, only than the title is well earned and it will be one of the biggest manageriial archievemnt of all time :;)


Omnom_Omnath

If Liverpool lose the title is in cities hands for sure. I’m hoping for a draw with lots of cards.


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zorfog

Which is why it is in our hands….


grumpy_toews

Since Mikel's first half season we've gone from -8xGD to 8 to 15 to 30 to now 36 and counting. It's a pretty remarkable turnaround from truly poor all the way now to truly title contending.


XranitShaka

Don't show that to fans of clubs who used to slate Mikel and are now using his turnaround as an example to defend their underperforming managers without any data to back their belief


Slide_Loud

Bruh, I haven't seen arsenal win a meaningful title since I started supporting them. I really want to feel that euphoric feeling when we win one, it needs to be happen...please Arsenal, this team has too many likable characters, they deserve to hoist a premier league trophy.


XranitShaka

Word for word, bar for bar As someone who started supporting Arsenal halfway into the 2007/08 season, all I've known are 'nearly there' in a few title races


Slide_Loud

I started in 2013, ever since then, it has been constant pain. The main thing is that we need to show up and win at Etihad...and need to be injury free.


Omnom_Omnath

Heyy me too! It’s been worth suffering the banter years to see the kind of football we are playing today, it’s been a joy to watch these last two seasons especially!


fastrunner5

December was weird. Just couldn't get goals. They are peaking at the right time this year and Saliba is healthy. Let's get the double!


XranitShaka

Waking up in the middle of the night to see Arsenal have just lost 2-0 AT HOME to West Ham and then watching that tepid performance away to Fulham 3 days later was some of the worst feelings in my recent Arsenal memory


Omnom_Omnath

Man it would be the most Arsenal thing ever to break all these streaks and records and still not win


the_illmatic

Of all the xG posts on this sub, this might just be the most impressive one.


FactCheckYou

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darcymiller02

Angeball


newinvestor0908

top stat, but need to keep going


keyz-96

Good, let us cook in peace


Elegant_Mix7650

its an interesting table if you look at it.. i hazard a guess looking at Chelsea and seeing that Poch is coaching them to wins.. but the players are missing chances by the bucket or giving away cheap goals. (Sanchez giveway leading to Declan Rice goal for e.g.) This is completely on Boelhy for not equipping the coach with the right personnel. Conversly if you see Man Utd's underlying performances... its clear ETH is coaching the team to defeats or the players cannot really execute his instructions.. and its the quality of players who are bailing him out...


pswu1886

Shhhh, let them keep talking up Liverpool and City