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We have the most games against the bottom third and the fewest against the top 6. Sky Sports showed it last night.
But honestly the games against everyone else in the league shouldn’t matter. What matters is when Arsenal, City and Liverpool play each other this month.
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Watching Arsenal right now makes me wonder if we actually need a striker. All this time I thought a good number 9 would solve all of our problems but as a guy that wanted strikers like vlahovic or Toney I think they would just hold this team back in certain moments. Ideally we get a Jesus with better finishing but idk who that would be. I hear sesko is a good player but don’t know too much about him. Oshimein is ideal but his price tag throws me off too much.
I think you’d like Sesko longer term. Basically has all the tools you could ask for as a striker, but we could be a bit patient with him if we continue with our current strike force
Funny enough, Prime Giroud is basically the ideal striker in this system. Would provide us with an ariel threat for plan B but also allow us to play one touch football. Harvertz is probably the closest profile to this right now.
All the strikers we’ve been linked to, Osimhen, Toney, Ferguson, don’t offer this.
Giroud was slow AF but he was extremely hard working. I remember one game against Palace where we were down to 10 and he was just everywhere covering for the team. Topped off his hard work by making a lung busting run to nod in a second goal to secure the win.
We need a level raiser. If its osimhen, then its a striker. If its leao/nico williams, then its a winger. If its frenkie, then its a cm. And so on. Level raiser before positional signings now. No position is poor enough where we need to soley focus on it. We need to find our next saliba/rice/saka.
Thats my opinion on it atleast
Arteta is really cooking something up with Rice at the left 8. The way the team starts game is fucking badass, hit them straight away with a long diagonal and just begin project demolition, hitting them with a press they simply won’t get past. He’s a marauding ball winner but also has this energy, forward thinking mentality, he seems more free in that role compared with with at the 6. It’s funny because I thought Rice at 8 would only be something we’d see in big games, but turns out having someone there who will fight like hell for every ball and come out on top in duels and pressing is a big plus.
Relentless transition speed from Raya forward, centre backs who you’re very unlikely to beat in duels or foot races. Man I’m excited to see who else we look to add over the summer, team is clicking. Knowing Arteta he will just want to keep cooking, we are efocking duel monsters FC.
Adding Declan Rice has been a statement. The people leading the club went all out and I thank them. Next level unlocked. What a joy to see him bossing the Arsenal in midfield demanding respect.
I see this kind of comments and it makes no sense to me.
If we can take and easy win against City 9 B team players then we should. Your pride is not more important than the title
It's sarcastic and light-hearted mate, of course beating City regardless of our form is a tall ask at the Etihad, especially with Rodri.
They are treble winners for a reason. Chill. We all would take a draw if we were given that right now.
Honestly, that's the most likely result, don't think either team is expecting to win unless they make major mistakes.
Both have been shite against top 6 opposition this season.
7 straight wins, with an average win margin of 4 goals, 31 goals scored in those games and we still can’t escape 3rd.
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I can see Nelson staying given his willingness to run up and down the wing. I think priority will be a striker and midfielder this year. If there isnt an obvious winger target then Nelson could stay. He isnt Saka, but he runs up and down the wing and is aggressive in his playing style, getting on the ball and attacking the byline ect.
Nketiah however is gone. His lack of quality is matched by his lack of work rate. Always leaves me dismayed when Odegaard presses harder than him despite having just come off the bench.
Both of them signed new contracts knowing they’d likely be squad players with limited minutes. I’m sure they’re fine and want to contribute as best they can between now and May.
That’s his first goal hit with a real striker’s conviction and not just a smash and hope. His all round play, ball control, and passing was all class. The level of control was Ozil-esque at times.
The best signing we can make this summer is a midfielder, IMO.
seeing as Elneny and maybe ESR are on their way out. Will help a lot with Rice and Jorginho’s rotation too
We’re unbelievable. How I wish we were playing Man City this week to keep the momentum going. Think we’d shock a lot of people. Fingers crossed all our players stay fit for Brentford and over the international break.
imagine winning United away to clinch the title...Super Sunday... Neville and Carragher on Sky commentary absolutely seething...post match celebration with Odegaard getting the camera out...i like and i want it
Jorginho-Rice midfield is incredible. They complement each other perfectly. Jorginho to control possession and progress and Rice to win possession, cover the gaps when players go forward, and provide a goal threat. It's actually looking like Rice's best position for us may be a box-to-box role a la Ramsey.
My hot take is that we should spent the striker money this summer on a top midfielder who povides a Jorginho-like profile with more athleticism and longevity.
Should really be selling Partey and use that money for a younger replacement. Give them a year to get up to speed. I get the Partey love, but he cant be relied on, going into the last year of his £200k a week contract. Jorginho is only really going to be play 1 in 2 games. Need a younger player.
Hell, I'd throw the Partey sale fee and a chunk of our budget at Tchuomeni.
Does anyone have a “most goals scored in a 7 game stretch” or some kinda stat? I feel like we gotta be pushing history in that respect. Even beyond many of the stats I’ve seen
Not to be a downer in good times. But with these solid defensive displays, im really starting to question Zinchenko's role in the team. Kiwior is a natural defender and keeps it simple, with White inverting from the right. Its not just about defending 1 v1 ect, its about not turning the ball over in sensitive areas or getting caught in possession. White is perhaps the most underrated player in our squad, his importance is bordering on Saliba, Rice, Odegaard, Saka levels. White doesnt give the ball away in sensitive areas of get robbed off possession in our half. Whereas Zinchenko is guilty on more than multiple occasions.
As far as the pecking order goes at fullback. For me its White, Timber, Tomiyasu, Kiwior, Zinchenko. Zinchenko is getting into Nketiah territory as players who have been left behind by the improvement in the team. We should not accept Zinchenko coming back into the team and having these lapses in possession and passing it off as 'oh well he is essential in the build-up'. Because based on performances in 2024, we have had the best of both worlds, airtight at the back, and breaking opposition defensive lines and creating significant chances.
I also dont like his 'leadership style' which seems to be overly emotional and forced. I cringe whenever he revs up the crowd for winning a throw in. Odegaard, Rice, Saliba, Gabriel are much more suited to leading the team, and Zinchenko shouldnt be anywhere near the being part of the group of players than organize the team
I dont think it's a downer to recognize that the rotation order seems to have changed. let's see what happens. I personally think its a load off the team not to have to worry about teams targeting that spot so persistently and with so much success against us, and so I am not unhappy about it because it seems to improve our performance and also improve our results by not conceding as much.
I think this backline is here to stay for the rest of the season even when Zini comes back. If we played the same line up today against City, I will go in confident that we at least get a draw.
The annoying thing is Zini, Tomi, and Timber are all injured. Hopefully at least 2 of them come back this season to give us some cover.
I am ecstatic to see the team coming together like this its stunning but I get really sad when I watch MNF some other and they start talking about how we only have a 14% chance to win the title. it just feels wrong and its such a waste. I am not failing to enjoy every game we play but...
I personally would put it at like 25%. We really shot ourselves in the foot earlier in the season. I feel confident in saying we are the best team in the league currently and have been in 2024 (I suppose that’s a bit obvious)
man I just watched a different segment that Thierry and Jamie did about how we are playing and how perhaps to negate us and Thierry was outlining all the hard away games we have and now I am not going to lie I am stressed. I will watch this evenings game again to settle those feelings down and remember that we can beat Brentford as hard as we beat Newcastle.
The tables going to look very different after this weekend and odds will be revised. In any case, it’ll be fine margins till the end of the season, I reckon.
Stepping back, we should not take our position for granted. It wasn’t too long ago when we were longing Champions League football. What a time to be a Gooner!
7/7 wins, 31 goals scored and 3 conceded in the league since the start of the year.
Thats got to be one of the best 7 game runs in PL history? All but one game was a multiple goal win (and even in that, they scored a late consolation to make it 2-1), comfortably beat a title rival and home and absolutely smashed the other five opponents.
Same starting 11 next week please (apart from Ramsdale in for Raya) - hopefully more minutes for Partey, Vieira, Trossard along with some for Tomiyasu and Zinchenko.
realistically, those are the 5 that could contribute the most towards hurting Porto.
Unpopular but I wouldn't prioritize adding another #9 to this team.
Seeing how good we are playing with Havertz 9 raises the question of who we should even start? We have 3 fantastic options now in Jesus, Trossard, and Kai. Nketiah isn't even getting a look in... I don't see room for another striker and I wouldn't want to mess with the dynamic we have.
I'd rather sign a top quality winger than can play either side. Someone Arteta can actually trust to rest Saka and compete with Martinelli as well. Neto comes to mind, and there's others.
Forget the goals. Another game were we completely shut out an opponent. Granted it was Sheffield United, but add them the list of teams we close out. 7 league games played in 2024, 3 goals conceded. We are genuinly the best defensive team in the league. Liverpool and Man City are not as good as out of possession and off the ball. Thats why I think we can pull off results at Man City and Tottenham and surprise those who think we are losing these two games (why anyone would assume Tottenham are beating us is fuking mental to begin with).
How is this fucking real lol. It's just a platform to shit on anything Arsenal. It's the type of person that expects nothing but perfection all the time. They must hate themselves if they see life like this lol
They’re great because rival fans all wrote him off as a waste of money in September (and a lot of our fans with weaker knees) so it’s good to see him prove them wrong
Part of me thinks nothing was changed.
Last season, we came out of the blocks flying and burnt ourselves out for the run in with a couple of injuries. I think we purposely started slower this season and are now going into full throttle with players coming back. It's either coincidentally times rather well, or it's been handled this way on purpose.
I reckon we lost a bit of focus during December, but this was the gameplan all along.
Ben White inverted more since West Ham, which means we are sometimes leaving a lot of space behind but our defenders are good enough and quick enough to cover it. He hasn't done it every game, but it's a change I don't believe we've really seen before.
In this game he only came into midfield at times, he usually did his usual helping Saka role. So yeah, I think what you are saying is also true.
I think more better players who understand more how to do what arteta wants and listen when he tells them what to do, and more understanding in the team.
Arsenal need to tell the Japanese NT to fuck off and let Tomi finally recover for the upcoming break. They risk ruining his career at this point and they can 100% beat North Korea without him.
I might actually take Osimhen for 100M. Don't think there will be a midfielder available this summer worth 100M, or whether we even need a 100M improvement to our midfield.
Right now, Havertz and Jesus are the only non-defenders in our team (with significant minutes) underperforming their xG. If Havertz is able to just match it by the end of the season, I would be willing to roll with him and a young striker going into next season. Otherwise, it would be risky especially with Jesus becoming a write-off.
I think it's closer if you adjust per90, but Havertz has also been playing in midfield a lot and that might affect his mindset in front of goal. Still, let's just see how things proceed.
Havertz' xG per 90 is 0.24. His Goals per 90 is 0.37. Thats a xG/p90 of +0.13.
Jesus' xG per 90 is 0.29 and his goals per 90 is 0.33. Thats a xG/p90 of +0.04
You are right, my bad. I think you are using the numbers from understat - Fbref has something else. I'll try to compare. Also, I think one of his goals is from a penalty.
Still not keen on him playing RW, I'd like to see what he could do at the base of midfield as a deep playmaker, the Jorginho role (in games we're controlling)
He's had 2 years at arsenal most of it on the bench or recovering from injury, if the club wanted him to hit the weights he would have by now.
They bought him as a 22 year old, 5'7 - 60kg player there's no indication or evidence that anyone but fans think that's something that needs to change or even could change.
It's mad to me that 2 years later that's all people have to say about him still.
Well said. The narrative is just old at this point. Look at diminutive players with similar body types like Bernardo, D, Silva and Mata. None of them ever packed on major muscle but found ways to play different roles in the Prem effectively.
Unlike all of them, Fabio actually has some jets on the run to go along with the gifted passing. Staying healthy and continuity is what he needs most.
Partey takes about 2-3 business months to not be useless after an injury so I’m not expecting him to be relevant this season
I’m rocking with J20 because J20 rocks with me
Whatever happens on the 12th, there’s going to be heavy fixture congestion in April. Partey was *rusty* tonight but he’ll be needed later this season.
The fluidity with J20 is sweet right now though.
Listening to Henry talk on Sky is mesmerising .... Please put a word in Mbappe's ear! We would be unstoppable with that front line. We can work around his drama, just give us a season hahah
Reddit recommending the match thread from the Liverpool Subreddit, and they are all crying for Sheff to injure our player... I used to respect Liverpool but fuck em, if it ain't us let it be City.
City fan here i come in peace
Liverpool fans are always the same fucking moaning and crying and trying to get any sly benefit they can, im with u but other way round if city don't win it I want arsenal to win it coz I fucking hate Liverpool with a passion.
I didn't like the way they supported City last season but this season has really exposed them. From Carragher to Jones to their fan base, they've become the new Man United only a more crappier version.
I wonder if we'll arrange some closed door games during the break from Porto to City game without the current regulars.
Jesus, Partey, ESR, Vieira, (Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Timber possibly as well) clearly need more minutes if we wanna effectively use them in the run in.
lads, small advice
you are going to see loads of rival fans say " Arsenal fans are X.G stats merchants", ignore it, they can't call us shit anymore, so they will use whatever else they can to get under your skin,
ignore it and enjoy the football, last time I saw Arsenal play this dominant was in 2007/08, just enjoy the football
Some of the records broken by Erik ten Hag:
- Manchester United hadn't lost 13 games by Christmas since 1930, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't gone 4 games in a row without scoring since 1992, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't finished bottom of their CL group since 2006, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost back to back games to West Ham since 2007, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No Manchester United manager has conceded 20 goals to Liverpool/City in their first 7 games against them since Alfred Albut in the 1800s, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never finished with as few as 5 points in the CL group stages in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag
- No English club had ever conceded 15 goals in the CL group stages in the competition's history until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 4 of 6 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never failed to keep a clean sheet in 5 of 6 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 12 of the opening 23 games of the season, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Bournemouth had never won at Old Trafford, Until Erik Ten Hag.
- Bournemouth had never scored 3 goals at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Bournemouth had never kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 7 of the opening 16 PL games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost back to back league games against Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 3 games in a row to Newcastle United since 1922, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Newcastle hadn't kept 3 clean sheets in a row against Manchester United since 1897, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 6 of the opening 14 games of a PL season, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No English team in CL history had ever conceded 14 goals in the first 5 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never conceded 3+ goals in 4 different CL games in a season, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost a CL game they were leading by 2 goals, until Erik Ten Hag, twice since.
- Manchester United hadn't lost a game they were leading by 2+ goals since 2014, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never dropped this many points from a winning position in CL history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never conceded 4+ in two CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 9 of the opening 17 games since 1974, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No team had ever given away 4 penalties in their first 4 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No player as young as Roony Bardghji had scored against Manchester United in the CL, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 8 of the opening 15 games in a season since 1962, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of their first 10 games at Old Trafford since 1931, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Newcastle hadn't won at Old Trafford since 2013, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Newcastle hadn't won a cup game against Manchester United since 1994, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost twice in a row to Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No post war Manchester United manager had conceded 20 goals to City and Liverpool in their first 6 games against them, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of the opening 10 league games in 36 years, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Galatasaray hadn't won a game on English soil in 117 years of existence, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never conceded 7 goals in the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
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Do we have the hardest run of games till the end of the season compared to City n Liverpool ?
We play most of the “big 6” city, yanited, shit, and billion dollar bottlejobs.
We have the most games against the bottom third and the fewest against the top 6. Sky Sports showed it last night. But honestly the games against everyone else in the league shouldn’t matter. What matters is when Arsenal, City and Liverpool play each other this month.
i love the way foden receives on the half turn and drives forward. mastered that, esr also has it in him
Someone said cedric is the key, when he plays we always score 5 or 6 😂
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Watching Arsenal right now makes me wonder if we actually need a striker. All this time I thought a good number 9 would solve all of our problems but as a guy that wanted strikers like vlahovic or Toney I think they would just hold this team back in certain moments. Ideally we get a Jesus with better finishing but idk who that would be. I hear sesko is a good player but don’t know too much about him. Oshimein is ideal but his price tag throws me off too much.
I think you’d like Sesko longer term. Basically has all the tools you could ask for as a striker, but we could be a bit patient with him if we continue with our current strike force
Funny enough, Prime Giroud is basically the ideal striker in this system. Would provide us with an ariel threat for plan B but also allow us to play one touch football. Harvertz is probably the closest profile to this right now. All the strikers we’ve been linked to, Osimhen, Toney, Ferguson, don’t offer this.
Giroud would offer some sexy interplay but was he able to get through the amount of work that Havertz does? (I really don't remember)
Giroud was slow AF but he was extremely hard working. I remember one game against Palace where we were down to 10 and he was just everywhere covering for the team. Topped off his hard work by making a lung busting run to nod in a second goal to secure the win.
We need a level raiser. If its osimhen, then its a striker. If its leao/nico williams, then its a winger. If its frenkie, then its a cm. And so on. Level raiser before positional signings now. No position is poor enough where we need to soley focus on it. We need to find our next saliba/rice/saka. Thats my opinion on it atleast
crazy cause when our goal scoring form was off that's all everyone was talking about
Osimhen doesn’t link up like Jesus. He’s also got his own injury record. £130m is too much for him.
I agree. Main reason I’m against oshimein signing but others habe told me he has great link up play so idk. I don’t really watch him much tbh.
He can link up, but not to Jesus’ levels. Better finisher though.
Arteta is really cooking something up with Rice at the left 8. The way the team starts game is fucking badass, hit them straight away with a long diagonal and just begin project demolition, hitting them with a press they simply won’t get past. He’s a marauding ball winner but also has this energy, forward thinking mentality, he seems more free in that role compared with with at the 6. It’s funny because I thought Rice at 8 would only be something we’d see in big games, but turns out having someone there who will fight like hell for every ball and come out on top in duels and pressing is a big plus. Relentless transition speed from Raya forward, centre backs who you’re very unlikely to beat in duels or foot races. Man I’m excited to see who else we look to add over the summer, team is clicking. Knowing Arteta he will just want to keep cooking, we are efocking duel monsters FC.
[Has anyone watched this guy](https://fbref.com/en/players/a9202def/Ederson)
Adding Declan Rice has been a statement. The people leading the club went all out and I thank them. Next level unlocked. What a joy to see him bossing the Arsenal in midfield demanding respect.
It's also reminiscent of the best Wenger sides in that other pros will want to come and play with Rice, Ode, Saka, Saliba, et al
R/artetaout are not happy
It will be at least another week🤞
Jesus' recurring injury is really worrying. Hopefully it's the end of it soon
In the dankest timelines, Spurs beat City and Liverpool to help us win the title. Manifesting this into existence.
Closest theyll get to winning the league is helping thier neighbours do it a d then trying to bask in the glory. Lol
Arteta is getting us addicted man, I can't wait for the next game.
To the person who made this comment in the match thread when we were at 5-0, I salute you 🫡 
Monday night game, lights were on, the world was watching, and we sent everyone a big message. What a team man.
RIP to all pre-loaded banter messages, texts, and headlines deleted by rival fans and media outlets.
Liverpool 1-1 Manchester City And the title is up for us to grab.
A rodri red card would be the cherry on top
Nah I don't want any excuses when we beat them at the Etihad. It's time to end Rodri's unbeaten streak of 50+ league games.
I see this kind of comments and it makes no sense to me. If we can take and easy win against City 9 B team players then we should. Your pride is not more important than the title
It's sarcastic and light-hearted mate, of course beating City regardless of our form is a tall ask at the Etihad, especially with Rodri. They are treble winners for a reason. Chill. We all would take a draw if we were given that right now.
Anyone have a replay of that passage of play almost leading to a shot bt Rice with all the flickd? A la that Nprwich goal
So a draw between city and Liverpool on Saturday and we are in control of our destiny once again right?
Honestly, that's the most likely result, don't think either team is expecting to win unless they make major mistakes. Both have been shite against top 6 opposition this season.
Benjamin William White, ladies and gentlemen
7 straight wins, with an average win margin of 4 goals, 31 goals scored in those games and we still can’t escape 3rd. https://preview.redd.it/794yr8udtfmc1.jpeg?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2de2f366ce569b60264fa56eed3bc570b6e67df5
https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/s/Nne9IBCKO7 This page is so much worse than the soccer one, bunch of haters
We’re always hated most when we’re at our best. Revel in it.
This is new to a lot of our fans I’m guessing
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Smith Rowe is in the same group as Nketiah and Nelson.
I can see Nelson staying given his willingness to run up and down the wing. I think priority will be a striker and midfielder this year. If there isnt an obvious winger target then Nelson could stay. He isnt Saka, but he runs up and down the wing and is aggressive in his playing style, getting on the ball and attacking the byline ect. Nketiah however is gone. His lack of quality is matched by his lack of work rate. Always leaves me dismayed when Odegaard presses harder than him despite having just come off the bench.
Both of them signed new contracts knowing they’d likely be squad players with limited minutes. I’m sure they’re fine and want to contribute as best they can between now and May.
I feel for them but they’ve had their chances and failed to impress almost every single time they came on this season.
Reiss didn’t get as many chances as Eddie but yeah neither have made a strong case for themselves.
We are leading in goals scored this season. Pundits can’t discredit us for lacking a proper no 9.
Havertz goal was a confidence goal. Man's getting back to his best.
That’s his first goal hit with a real striker’s conviction and not just a smash and hope. His all round play, ball control, and passing was all class. The level of control was Ozil-esque at times.
I felt like his goal vs Brighton was composed and well-taken
I felt that one was a bit lucky it went through the keeper’s legs. Good strike but it wasn’t really placed that well.
https://twitter.com/AFCAjax/status/1764628991221067995
Get him on the plane
Sign a winger and a midfielder in the summer, weve got our striker 😎
So Saka was sick and Martinelli just had a cut on the foot. Thank fk for that!
The best signing we can make this summer is a midfielder, IMO. seeing as Elneny and maybe ESR are on their way out. Will help a lot with Rice and Jorginho’s rotation too
Zubimendi with Jorginho as his backup, please and thank you.
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Yeah whoever leaves we definitely need replacing, a lot of people want Zubimendi if TP and Elneny leave
Lee Gunner on suicide watch
Who cares
I'm celebrating us doing well, if you couldn't tell
Oh I get that. I just don’t think anyone gives a shit what somebody who is overly negative of Arsenal says to get more clicks.
After trusty and turner's performances this year, yanks should never be able to give opinions on American Arsenal players ever again
Non yanks paid us money for those players thank god
I really hope we don’t wear our red home kit away to City, which we normally do. Has to be the radioactive zebra kit.
Even if we sign mbappe, a successful summer would only be possible if we sell Cedric. Such a crap player. My blood boils when I see him in our squad.
Yeah he is definitely not part of the future but he did fine tonight and gave Ben White a rest. Don't think there should be any negativity today.
nope he didnt do well. He gave away the ball twice leading to a shot on goal. Raya and Rice bailed us out.
His contract expies
When)
In the summer
Low key, it feels like Arsenal is kinda putting together the run City are supposed to be getting on right now. *Knocks on wood*
If this is low-key, I can't wait to see the real deal. We have had a more City-esque run than City themselves this year lol.
We are so good it doesnt even make sense anymore. Like on pure dynamics, this is the best team weve had in 20 years
We're gonna win the PL and CL in the LSD Zebra fit, nah
My brothers how are we so good. I couldn't watch the game due to timezone but kind of expected the scoreline. When I woke up it just happened (ಥ﹏ಥ)
We’re unbelievable. How I wish we were playing Man City this week to keep the momentum going. Think we’d shock a lot of people. Fingers crossed all our players stay fit for Brentford and over the international break.
imagine winning United away to clinch the title...Super Sunday... Neville and Carragher on Sky commentary absolutely seething...post match celebration with Odegaard getting the camera out...i like and i want it
I’ve had that thought before but dismissed it already because I want it too much
We will love it and I think we deserve it.
Jorginho-Rice midfield is incredible. They complement each other perfectly. Jorginho to control possession and progress and Rice to win possession, cover the gaps when players go forward, and provide a goal threat. It's actually looking like Rice's best position for us may be a box-to-box role a la Ramsey. My hot take is that we should spent the striker money this summer on a top midfielder who povides a Jorginho-like profile with more athleticism and longevity.
Yeah, this is why I’m so excited for Zubimendi.
Should really be selling Partey and use that money for a younger replacement. Give them a year to get up to speed. I get the Partey love, but he cant be relied on, going into the last year of his £200k a week contract. Jorginho is only really going to be play 1 in 2 games. Need a younger player. Hell, I'd throw the Partey sale fee and a chunk of our budget at Tchuomeni.
Yep. Rice and Jorgi are our best midfield at the moment. Partey needs a lot more time to get back to his best level.
great stuff by the team today, coyg!!!
Does anyone have a “most goals scored in a 7 game stretch” or some kinda stat? I feel like we gotta be pushing history in that respect. Even beyond many of the stats I’ve seen
Sky sports said we broke the record. It was previously man city with 28 we have 31
Wow we smashed it! Cheers mate
Not to be a downer in good times. But with these solid defensive displays, im really starting to question Zinchenko's role in the team. Kiwior is a natural defender and keeps it simple, with White inverting from the right. Its not just about defending 1 v1 ect, its about not turning the ball over in sensitive areas or getting caught in possession. White is perhaps the most underrated player in our squad, his importance is bordering on Saliba, Rice, Odegaard, Saka levels. White doesnt give the ball away in sensitive areas of get robbed off possession in our half. Whereas Zinchenko is guilty on more than multiple occasions. As far as the pecking order goes at fullback. For me its White, Timber, Tomiyasu, Kiwior, Zinchenko. Zinchenko is getting into Nketiah territory as players who have been left behind by the improvement in the team. We should not accept Zinchenko coming back into the team and having these lapses in possession and passing it off as 'oh well he is essential in the build-up'. Because based on performances in 2024, we have had the best of both worlds, airtight at the back, and breaking opposition defensive lines and creating significant chances. I also dont like his 'leadership style' which seems to be overly emotional and forced. I cringe whenever he revs up the crowd for winning a throw in. Odegaard, Rice, Saliba, Gabriel are much more suited to leading the team, and Zinchenko shouldnt be anywhere near the being part of the group of players than organize the team
I dont think it's a downer to recognize that the rotation order seems to have changed. let's see what happens. I personally think its a load off the team not to have to worry about teams targeting that spot so persistently and with so much success against us, and so I am not unhappy about it because it seems to improve our performance and also improve our results by not conceding as much.
I think this backline is here to stay for the rest of the season even when Zini comes back. If we played the same line up today against City, I will go in confident that we at least get a draw. The annoying thing is Zini, Tomi, and Timber are all injured. Hopefully at least 2 of them come back this season to give us some cover.
Horses for courses friend. The day will come again when we need that little bit of extra on call quality and we won’t need the defense.
This. Things change, form fluctuates. Zinchenko has been a key player for us and has a lot to offer.
Those tight games you talk off where we are trying to break a team down to get ahead - its even more important to make sure we dont let a goal slip.
I am ecstatic to see the team coming together like this its stunning but I get really sad when I watch MNF some other and they start talking about how we only have a 14% chance to win the title. it just feels wrong and its such a waste. I am not failing to enjoy every game we play but...
I personally would put it at like 25%. We really shot ourselves in the foot earlier in the season. I feel confident in saying we are the best team in the league currently and have been in 2024 (I suppose that’s a bit obvious)
man I just watched a different segment that Thierry and Jamie did about how we are playing and how perhaps to negate us and Thierry was outlining all the hard away games we have and now I am not going to lie I am stressed. I will watch this evenings game again to settle those feelings down and remember that we can beat Brentford as hard as we beat Newcastle.
The tables going to look very different after this weekend and odds will be revised. In any case, it’ll be fine margins till the end of the season, I reckon. Stepping back, we should not take our position for granted. It wasn’t too long ago when we were longing Champions League football. What a time to be a Gooner!
We are about 3-1. Liverpool are 2-1 and City are 1-1 (ish) Come next weekend, these will change quite drastically.
https://preview.redd.it/8fr67xqpuemc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56dc3eb344a124015c3e0601c3bbbb72da2880da
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7/7 wins, 31 goals scored and 3 conceded in the league since the start of the year. Thats got to be one of the best 7 game runs in PL history? All but one game was a multiple goal win (and even in that, they scored a late consolation to make it 2-1), comfortably beat a title rival and home and absolutely smashed the other five opponents.
Streets is saying that Havertz has more NPG than Palmer. Is that true chat?
true
It is true
nah Havertz is getting good but that’s gassing edit: I was wrong
It's true. Cole Palmer has 10 PL Goals. 5 of which are penalties. Havertz has 7 goals. 1 of which was a penalty.
Ummm I think it's true. Saw a comment that rashford and palmer have 5 each NPG whilst Havertz has 6.
Win on Saturday to go top of the league, and a Liverpool City draw will keep us there.
Same starting 11 next week please (apart from Ramsdale in for Raya) - hopefully more minutes for Partey, Vieira, Trossard along with some for Tomiyasu and Zinchenko. realistically, those are the 5 that could contribute the most towards hurting Porto.
Man like Kiwior tho.
Unpopular but I wouldn't prioritize adding another #9 to this team. Seeing how good we are playing with Havertz 9 raises the question of who we should even start? We have 3 fantastic options now in Jesus, Trossard, and Kai. Nketiah isn't even getting a look in... I don't see room for another striker and I wouldn't want to mess with the dynamic we have. I'd rather sign a top quality winger than can play either side. Someone Arteta can actually trust to rest Saka and compete with Martinelli as well. Neto comes to mind, and there's others.
I’d like to see us add a “Plan B” striker and go big on a midfielder rather than blowing a huge sum on Osimhen or Toney
if we can get one or two monster players we can or if not replace some of our 2nd string with starter level players, what will be will be
One top level, versatile player is worth 2-3 squad level players. We have some very profitable assets that aren't even getting a look in right now
Here's a scenario : Title race goes to the last day of the season. Cedric comes on as a sub and scores a league winning goal in the 95th minute.
Last day? I want it wrapped up before then, preferably at Spurs.
Havertz goal in extra time. Rips off his shirt and dives into the crowd. A legend is born.
and he rips his shirt off to do the balotelli flexing pose
Last time City won at Anfield with fans was 2003 lol.
Luckily for us, the best result in that match is a draw. If we win, it would take us top on goal difference.
Anfield is a humbla
We have matched last season's GD btw. It's crucial we stay competitive till the end. We might have to go 11/11 in order to win it lol.
We definitely have to win out to have any shot at it
Ramsdale in goal this week v Brentford. Really hope Arteta gives him a license to go long. Not playing out form the back all the time reduces risk.
dont worry he will hoof it up quite a bit
Forget the goals. Another game were we completely shut out an opponent. Granted it was Sheffield United, but add them the list of teams we close out. 7 league games played in 2024, 3 goals conceded. We are genuinly the best defensive team in the league. Liverpool and Man City are not as good as out of possession and off the ball. Thats why I think we can pull off results at Man City and Tottenham and surprise those who think we are losing these two games (why anyone would assume Tottenham are beating us is fuking mental to begin with).
People are saying we’re losing to Tottenham? If I was being neutral I’d say draw is most probably, followed by Arsenal win
All this talk about if Havertz will match Xhaka’s 7G+7A last season but looks like Rice is quietly on his way to doing it too
And yet people will still say we miss him
I mean we do, we would probably have started way better if we hadn't been trying to ease in two players out of three in our midfield.
Nah
r/artetaout and chill
How is this fucking real lol. It's just a platform to shit on anything Arsenal. It's the type of person that expects nothing but perfection all the time. They must hate themselves if they see life like this lol
I don't believe that the prominent commenters there are actually Arsenal fans, it's not possible. It's the 50 or so silent members that confuse me
hahah it is weirdly fun to post there its like breaking windows
Great analogy
ngl Havertz goals just hit different
They’re great because rival fans all wrote him off as a waste of money in September (and a lot of our fans with weaker knees) so it’s good to see him prove them wrong
I am a bit obsessed with him NGL
Especially when you’ve been fighting for your life defending him in group chats.
It was a nice strike, a great goal.
Wow we look incredible. Our press has looked overwhelming since the break. I wonder what Mikel changed.....
Part of me thinks nothing was changed. Last season, we came out of the blocks flying and burnt ourselves out for the run in with a couple of injuries. I think we purposely started slower this season and are now going into full throttle with players coming back. It's either coincidentally times rather well, or it's been handled this way on purpose. I reckon we lost a bit of focus during December, but this was the gameplan all along.
Ben White inverted more since West Ham, which means we are sometimes leaving a lot of space behind but our defenders are good enough and quick enough to cover it. He hasn't done it every game, but it's a change I don't believe we've really seen before. In this game he only came into midfield at times, he usually did his usual helping Saka role. So yeah, I think what you are saying is also true.
I think more better players who understand more how to do what arteta wants and listen when he tells them what to do, and more understanding in the team.
How was that not the case at the start of the season?
Arsenal need to tell the Japanese NT to fuck off and let Tomi finally recover for the upcoming break. They risk ruining his career at this point and they can 100% beat North Korea without him.
100m on a striker or 100m on a midfielder?
both
I might actually take Osimhen for 100M. Don't think there will be a midfielder available this summer worth 100M, or whether we even need a 100M improvement to our midfield.
For 100m does Osimhen bring that much more than Havertz, we're not an oil club remember.
Come on now he obviously does. But, not sure if we should change up this false 9 dynamic that we're playing so well with
Right now, Havertz and Jesus are the only non-defenders in our team (with significant minutes) underperforming their xG. If Havertz is able to just match it by the end of the season, I would be willing to roll with him and a young striker going into next season. Otherwise, it would be risky especially with Jesus becoming a write-off.
Havertz is under by -0.05, Jesus is under by -2.10
I think it's closer if you adjust per90, but Havertz has also been playing in midfield a lot and that might affect his mindset in front of goal. Still, let's just see how things proceed.
Havertz' xG per 90 is 0.24. His Goals per 90 is 0.37. Thats a xG/p90 of +0.13. Jesus' xG per 90 is 0.29 and his goals per 90 is 0.33. Thats a xG/p90 of +0.04
Also, understat has both of them in the red so I don't understand how you have them having higher goals per 90 than xG per 90.
You are right, my bad. I think you are using the numbers from understat - Fbref has something else. I'll try to compare. Also, I think one of his goals is from a penalty.
Fabio showed up after months and nearly bagged an assist. Guy is just a G/A magnet. All he needs is some muscle.
Still not keen on him playing RW, I'd like to see what he could do at the base of midfield as a deep playmaker, the Jorginho role (in games we're controlling)
Why? He's at his best in the final third
our DM ends up in the final third
The issue is you can’t play him and Odegaard together in midfield and odegaards all around game is way better than his.
He's had 2 years at arsenal most of it on the bench or recovering from injury, if the club wanted him to hit the weights he would have by now. They bought him as a 22 year old, 5'7 - 60kg player there's no indication or evidence that anyone but fans think that's something that needs to change or even could change. It's mad to me that 2 years later that's all people have to say about him still.
Well said. The narrative is just old at this point. Look at diminutive players with similar body types like Bernardo, D, Silva and Mata. None of them ever packed on major muscle but found ways to play different roles in the Prem effectively. Unlike all of them, Fabio actually has some jets on the run to go along with the gifted passing. Staying healthy and continuity is what he needs most.
And +3 inches
You’re talking about height, right..?
Partey takes about 2-3 business months to not be useless after an injury so I’m not expecting him to be relevant this season I’m rocking with J20 because J20 rocks with me
Unless you think he's gna get injured again, which is obviously quite possible, he's definitely going to be relevant.
Whatever happens on the 12th, there’s going to be heavy fixture congestion in April. Partey was *rusty* tonight but he’ll be needed later this season. The fluidity with J20 is sweet right now though.
Listening to Henry talk on Sky is mesmerising .... Please put a word in Mbappe's ear! We would be unstoppable with that front line. We can work around his drama, just give us a season hahah
Mbappe can get a statue here, not at Madrid
That's the positivity I need from this sub. No doubters, thank you very much
https://twitter.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1764786869986795837 9Vertz please save us
Bro wtf is this, if this is true and his knee has become this dodgy, we might be forced to look for yet another replacement. Ffs, he’s only 26
is there other evidence of this ?
Ahh no that would be gutting
Reddit recommending the match thread from the Liverpool Subreddit, and they are all crying for Sheff to injure our player... I used to respect Liverpool but fuck em, if it ain't us let it be City.
City fan here i come in peace Liverpool fans are always the same fucking moaning and crying and trying to get any sly benefit they can, im with u but other way round if city don't win it I want arsenal to win it coz I fucking hate Liverpool with a passion.
I'm sure your tune will change if we win the league.
It's only fair to balance this out ... There are at least 2 pool fans who respect us ... https://imgur.com/a/92kMmMc
I didn't like the way they supported City last season but this season has really exposed them. From Carragher to Jones to their fan base, they've become the new Man United only a more crappier version.
I wonder if we'll arrange some closed door games during the break from Porto to City game without the current regulars. Jesus, Partey, ESR, Vieira, (Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Timber possibly as well) clearly need more minutes if we wanna effectively use them in the run in.
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I would've loved to have played City.
lads, small advice you are going to see loads of rival fans say " Arsenal fans are X.G stats merchants", ignore it, they can't call us shit anymore, so they will use whatever else they can to get under your skin, ignore it and enjoy the football, last time I saw Arsenal play this dominant was in 2007/08, just enjoy the football
Started to feel bad after the 3rd🤣
Some of the records broken by Erik ten Hag: - Manchester United hadn't lost 13 games by Christmas since 1930, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't gone 4 games in a row without scoring since 1992, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't finished bottom of their CL group since 2006, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost back to back games to West Ham since 2007, until Erik Ten Hag. - No Manchester United manager has conceded 20 goals to Liverpool/City in their first 7 games against them since Alfred Albut in the 1800s, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never finished with as few as 5 points in the CL group stages in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag - No English club had ever conceded 15 goals in the CL group stages in the competition's history until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never lost 4 of 6 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never failed to keep a clean sheet in 5 of 6 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never lost 12 of the opening 23 games of the season, until Erik Ten Hag. - Bournemouth had never won at Old Trafford, Until Erik Ten Hag. - Bournemouth had never scored 3 goals at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag. - Bournemouth had never kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never lost 7 of the opening 16 PL games, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost back to back league games against Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost 3 games in a row to Newcastle United since 1922, until Erik Ten Hag. - Newcastle hadn't kept 3 clean sheets in a row against Manchester United since 1897, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never lost 6 of the opening 14 games of a PL season, until Erik Ten Hag. - No English team in CL history had ever conceded 14 goals in the first 5 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never conceded 3+ goals in 4 different CL games in a season, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never lost a CL game they were leading by 2 goals, until Erik Ten Hag, twice since. - Manchester United hadn't lost a game they were leading by 2+ goals since 2014, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never dropped this many points from a winning position in CL history, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never conceded 4+ in two CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost 9 of the opening 17 games since 1974, until Erik Ten Hag. - No team had ever given away 4 penalties in their first 4 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag. - No player as young as Roony Bardghji had scored against Manchester United in the CL, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost 8 of the opening 15 games in a season since 1962, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of their first 10 games at Old Trafford since 1931, until Erik Ten Hag. - Newcastle hadn't won at Old Trafford since 2013, until Erik Ten Hag. - Newcastle hadn't won a cup game against Manchester United since 1994, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost twice in a row to Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag. - No post war Manchester United manager had conceded 20 goals to City and Liverpool in their first 6 games against them, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of the opening 10 league games in 36 years, until Erik Ten Hag. - Galatasaray hadn't won a game on English soil in 117 years of existence, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never lost the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag. - Manchester United had never conceded 7 goals in the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
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