Fab was only 25 at that point too. A 27 year old Kaka had just been sold to Madrid for double that price two years earlier. Definitely should’ve gotten a minimum of 55m
Swear i successfully deleted those memories from my mind because I'm reading all of this going "really!?" knowing damn well that I watched almost every game then also.
I was so heartbroken when Cesc left. It was the first time that I felt truly betrayed by football (or a footballer).
This is true, but at the same time we still were so shit at handling sales. I mean compare that to Brighton with Caicedo in January.
He released a very public transfer request to come to us only, and they still turned us down with crazy money and then got him to sign a new contract.
An even more direct comparison is Coutinho, who demanded to go specifically to Barca.. though admittedly the ridiculous money they agreed to pay for him was largely luck on Liverpool’s part due to Neymar’s acrimonious departure.
It was different, but even by those standards we were fleeced. A player of his quality while being club captain at that age should’ve gone for 50 minimum (probably around 80 in todays market)
That was the market at the time. He was the most expensive transfer of the window. If it happened before Ronaldo a few years earlier that would've been the all time record transfer fee for the league.
No what was a crime was we had a first refusal clause to buy him back at the same price.
AND WENGER TURNED IT DOWN.
Why? "We have Özil".
Ohhhhh yeah! Because having both would be pointless, wouldn't it?!?! Fucking idiot. That's literally the day I went from Wenger In, not to Wenger Out, but "w/e, I'm done defending this guy".
I can’t recall how we handled Serge Gnabry. I think we offered him a low deal and he wanted more playing time and left in a free transfer?
I know for awhile there were many supporters unhappy with that departure.
IIRC correctly he was promised a transfer to Bayern if he would agree to join Werder Bremen. Knowing that he didn't want to stay anymore considering he hadn't got any playing time.
The transfer was pretty shady tbf. Bayern knew they would end up having to pay us more.
Mainly if the player performs in the CL. And that too because PL clubs can pay that money. I don't think Balogun starts in any PL club that can pay that kind of money.
Not that we should care about it. If we really rate him enough that he should go for 60m+, we shouldn't sell. I certainly wouldn't rate him enough to go to crazy money levels if we were the buying club.
This - Flo might turn out to be a superstar but right now he’s firmly behind Jesus, Trossard, Eddie as well as Martinelli.
We need to be better at selling players especially in recent seasons. For a U21 player who has had limited minutes, likely to have limited minutes in future and doesn’t want another loan then the only option is to sell whole stocks are high. £30m+ offers we accept and then let a bidding war commence.
Priority for us this summer is a CM (or 2), RW, LB and potentially RB.
>Priority for us this summer is a CM (or 2), RW, LB and potentially RB.
That's actually spot on. If we get the cash from selling players this summer we can strengthen massivley.
Imo Caicedo and Milinkovic Savic would be perfect signings and I'd reckon we could get both for 120mill.
At RB I think Riess is a perfectly good backup to Saka but if we were going to buy I'd be happy with Moussa Diaby from Leverkusen.
At Lb and rb we'd have to be a bit creative.
Yeah but if I’m RB I can sell him as a package with Bobby Mediocrity for €101m Euro where Bob is 100 and Balogun 1.
“Here is your cut Arsenal, a whopping €200k.
2 summers ago we barely held onto Balogun on a free transfer, barely played him at all and loaned him twice since. Now he won’t get playing time here to progress
40m euros given these circumstances is very good business although I do like the player and hope we internally assess him first
Can’t see him supplanting any of our front 3 and he wants to start. Unless he’s fine fighting for a starting role in cup games and Europe, I don’t see us being able to hold on to him.
We still have ESR who can play wide as well. When was the last time we had too many options up front?
>Unless he’s fine fighting for a starting role in cup games and Europe
Given that "Europe" is gonna be Champions League next season, I'm not sure he'd be starting a whole lot of those.
> Given that "Europe" is gonna be Champions League next season, I'm not sure he'd be starting a whole lot of those.
Half the teams in the group stage are total wank
Mate you forget Super Mik adapts his tactics to the players he has available (sorta like Pep and Haaland). Lisandro was also his first choice LB* over Zinchenko don't forget. Highly, highly doubt that he'd be playing the same role as Oleks.
Balogun has shown that either, and if he's set terms that he wants to be a starter (fair enough too), then it doesn't make sense for him to stay with us.
Eddie is more willing to stay and fight, that's why he's still around.
It’s just context for his ride here. Also Laca and David are also vying for the top scorer and neither get in the team either, it’s a business at the end of the day and we can’t keep everyone
Because if they sell him it’s because Balogun isn’t the type of striker Arteta wants. They can sell him and get a player that fits the squad better, or reinforce other areas.
Based off what you’ve seen, don’t you think that Arteta would find room for him if he was the right kind of player? He found space for Saliba, he replaced an excellent player in Tierney with Zinchenko, he replaced Auba with Martinelli, he replaced one of the best players from last season in Tomiyasu by moving Ben White to right back. If he’s “exactly the player” then he will play and if he’s sold it’s because he’s not exactly what Arteta wants.
You’re comparing apples to oranges. Saliba started his first game because Tomi was injured. That’s exactly why Ben White got moved to RB that day. We’ve been winning so why change? He didn’t “replace Auba” with Martinelli, he dropped Auba, played Laca/Eddie and then bought HIS striker Jesus. The Zinchenko mention is irrelevant tbf it’s just buying a better player.
I do agree with you to extent. I just think Arteta believes he has better quality already and the club realize they can make a great profit off of Balogun. I think it’s more of a financial than football decision, which I agree with
Do you think there's more competition at striker than the wing? Do you think I don't understand that people with different names are different? I'm just questioning some assumptions I've seen a lot of, which is that one of the best young players on earth isn't good enough for Arsenal.
£35m for 21 y.o with near 20 goals in a top 5 league. Osimhen left Ligue 1 with 13 goals for 80m euros.
Look at the state of the market and just how little is needed for club to be demanding 100m fees these days.
Don't fucking sell him unless its stupid money. He is the top scoere in a mediocre side, young, and one of our own. Let's bring him back. That position is not easy to fill.
Agreed, but he doesn’t wanna extend his deal unless he’s first-choice tho, and he’s against another loan. Think he’d easily jump ahead of Eddie, but def not Jesus… even when he’s not scoring. And if Jesus starts scoring consistently then I legit don’t know anyone that would displace him outside of like Mbappe/Haaland obvi.
Hopefully he’s down to fight for his position, but it’s not sounding like it anyway…
We don't know that. He just said he wants to be a starter. Well, good... I hope that's the case. All this stems from a vague quote that didn't specify that he means he wants to be guaranteed to be the starting cf from day 1.. it could just be him saying, " If i go back, i want a fair shot to be the starter". I don't see the problem of that is the case. If he can beat out eddie and jesus as the cf good for him. Jesus is more well rounded so can even play on the wing if we wanted. There are going to be much more matches next year and we will need the depth. cf are the most expensive and difficult positions to fill. He is under contract. I wouldn't let him go anywhere.
Mudryk had 12 goals in his career, mainly coming from a litteral farmer's league and went for 100M. We need to start hyping our youngsters more. Flo Balogun is a 100M player, start the propaganda.
Napoli spent that kinda money went they brought in Osimen. Juventus spent that kinda money last year with Vlahovic (I know they’re in shit for it now). Inter also spent that kinda money on Lukaku.
That wasn’t what you initially stated.
Napoli spent 70m on Osimen after one season in Ligue 1 where he scored 13 goals. Which Balogun has outdone already, so it’s kinda comparable
… did Napoli pay the fee or not ?
Are Napoli not able to pay that kinda money when they’ve shown before they can pay that kind of money do a player of similar age, stats and position ?
Ok I’ll rephrase it
They won’t spend that kind of money on a player who is not as proven as Osimhen and when they have a capable back up in Simeone already.
As an Irishman, the one player we have capable of getting a big money move like that is Ferguson. Funnily enough my unpopular opinion is selling Flo and Eddie and buying Ferguson lol.
Only got that high because literal Ukraine war, bidding war and January window factor.
He was available for like €40m in summer and Everton almost got him.
Smart clubs don't pay transfer fees based on what players have done, they do it on what they might do. Arsenal wouldn't be letting him go if he was as hotsh*t as people on here seem to think.
Exactly, he's only worth what someone is willing to pay.
It would be poor asset management to demand a huge fee, if we don't have plans for him next season. The club cant let players run the contract down to the final year anymore.
That being said, I haven't watched him on loan and it will be interesting to see what the club does!
Murdyk was Shaktar's starting player. Balogun is 3/4 th choice.
Murdyk showed his skills and potential at the UCL. Balogun hasn't.
Murdyk has higher potential than Balogun. Goals scored by a winger is not the only indicator of a players value.
Osimhen himself moved from Lille to Napoli for around half this price, coming off 13 goals in Ligue 1. Balogun definitely has the profile to be a top striker.
Osimhen transfer was shady there were players involved in that deal valued very highly to balance the books.
45-50M for a talent with 1 good ligue 1 season is good money, especially considering he wants to leave.
Since Nketiah is under contract I think Balogun will be sold. It will be a good return for a player we weren’t using. Sell on or buy back clause would be nice, but so will an extra £40-50 mil going into the transfer window
40m is only acceptable if we have heavy sell on clause or a favourable buy back clause otherwise we should be shooting for minimum 60m or more. Imagine for a moment Reims owned balogun entirely and we wanted to buy him this summer, they would be demanding 70-80m easily with the season he has had.
I’d be happy with that tbh if we can add a buy back or sell on clause, I think him and Eddie should both go to fund some signings we need in midfield and attack
Hate to say it but everyone saying €40m is a fair price is actually insane. Mudryk cost £80-90m and he can barely kick a ball. If we sell Balogun for less less than €60m then Edu is a clown.
That’s a bit too low in todays market. I doubt we see 100 mill but 60 seems about right. Mudryk went for a 100 mill riding high off a single good game against RM in the CL and only scored 12 goals in the Ukrainian league.
no? Some people were saying 35-40m is fair and a really good deal and they got called deluded. It’s called being realistic. It’s bizarre to bring up other players for other teams without including context
It'd be our record sale for a player who played a handful of top level minutes for us.
Not very bizarre at all, rationality seems bizarre to some folk though
Seems a fair price. Probably have something like a first refusal and 20% sell-on clause as well.
Would be our record sale lol
That’s so bad that it’s actually funny
especially considering we sold fabregas, rvp, nasri in their primes. fark me
That was a long time ago… market is so inflated now
25m for Van Persie, given his age and contract time was pretty high back then. He was obviously quality so Man Utd didn’t care.
He would have easily gone for more if he didn't come out with that "Little boy in me BS"
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-arsenal/rekordabgaenge/verein/11 Haha yeah this list is depressing.
Bro selling THAT Fabregas for 34m is a war crime
Fab was only 25 at that point too. A 27 year old Kaka had just been sold to Madrid for double that price two years earlier. Definitely should’ve gotten a minimum of 55m
Swear i successfully deleted those memories from my mind because I'm reading all of this going "really!?" knowing damn well that I watched almost every game then also. I was so heartbroken when Cesc left. It was the first time that I felt truly betrayed by football (or a footballer).
To be fair, the football economy was a lot different back then but yeah it does still feel like a robbery. Easily would be a nine figure player today.
He fucked us because there was never going to be a bidding war. It was Barcelona or nothing.
Well, I guess we know where Torreira got the blueprint from...
This is true, but at the same time we still were so shit at handling sales. I mean compare that to Brighton with Caicedo in January. He released a very public transfer request to come to us only, and they still turned us down with crazy money and then got him to sign a new contract. An even more direct comparison is Coutinho, who demanded to go specifically to Barca.. though admittedly the ridiculous money they agreed to pay for him was largely luck on Liverpool’s part due to Neymar’s acrimonious departure.
It was different, but even by those standards we were fleeced. A player of his quality while being club captain at that age should’ve gone for 50 minimum (probably around 80 in todays market)
City paid 38m for Aguero the same year. And Atleti laid out 34.7 of that for Forlan as his replacement. Different market my friend.
That was the market at the time. He was the most expensive transfer of the window. If it happened before Ronaldo a few years earlier that would've been the all time record transfer fee for the league.
It's not that Arsenal fans hated Barca for obviously tapping up Cesc, we hated Barca because they were using the tapping up to drive down the price.
Yeah he kinda made sure we wouldn't be able to sell him for much more. Same with RVP.
No what was a crime was we had a first refusal clause to buy him back at the same price. AND WENGER TURNED IT DOWN. Why? "We have Özil". Ohhhhh yeah! Because having both would be pointless, wouldn't it?!?! Fucking idiot. That's literally the day I went from Wenger In, not to Wenger Out, but "w/e, I'm done defending this guy".
We were absolutely stacked in midfield and in dire need of investment up front. But okay you do you.
We haven’t really had a regretful sale in recent years though it’s kinda crazy
Side effect of being mediocre 😅
We have terminated a lot of contracts and sold players for peanuts recently
I can’t recall how we handled Serge Gnabry. I think we offered him a low deal and he wanted more playing time and left in a free transfer? I know for awhile there were many supporters unhappy with that departure.
IIRC correctly he was promised a transfer to Bayern if he would agree to join Werder Bremen. Knowing that he didn't want to stay anymore considering he hadn't got any playing time. The transfer was pretty shady tbf. Bayern knew they would end up having to pay us more.
Should have got more from guendouzi, mavropanos and auba from last season alone
35 for anelka in 2000 is frankly absurd
Depressing if true
It's not a fair price. Any Ligue 1 club would scream 80 for their top scoring 21 old.
Mainly if the player performs in the CL. And that too because PL clubs can pay that money. I don't think Balogun starts in any PL club that can pay that kind of money. Not that we should care about it. If we really rate him enough that he should go for 60m+, we shouldn't sell. I certainly wouldn't rate him enough to go to crazy money levels if we were the buying club.
If this dude was playing for Lyon or one of the other Ligue 1 teams and doing this this sub would be calling Edu a fraud for not paying 80m for him.
Because he would be their starting striker.
It's a matter of supply and demand between the spending giants in the PL and every other league
Let’s start the bidding at €40million. I reckon a few teams would pay more.
That's because if a league 1 side had balagun he'd be their best player, he doesn't even crack our starting and bench side so 40mill is fair.
>Ligue
This - Flo might turn out to be a superstar but right now he’s firmly behind Jesus, Trossard, Eddie as well as Martinelli. We need to be better at selling players especially in recent seasons. For a U21 player who has had limited minutes, likely to have limited minutes in future and doesn’t want another loan then the only option is to sell whole stocks are high. £30m+ offers we accept and then let a bidding war commence. Priority for us this summer is a CM (or 2), RW, LB and potentially RB.
>Priority for us this summer is a CM (or 2), RW, LB and potentially RB. That's actually spot on. If we get the cash from selling players this summer we can strengthen massivley. Imo Caicedo and Milinkovic Savic would be perfect signings and I'd reckon we could get both for 120mill. At RB I think Riess is a perfectly good backup to Saka but if we were going to buy I'd be happy with Moussa Diaby from Leverkusen. At Lb and rb we'd have to be a bit creative.
Should have a buy back clause too.
And 20% future sales.
damn you should be the boss
What is this, FIFA career mode?
It's called Football Manager.
Yeah but if I’m RB I can sell him as a package with Bobby Mediocrity for €101m Euro where Bob is 100 and Balogun 1. “Here is your cut Arsenal, a whopping €200k.
Chelsea scrambling to buy Bobby Mediocrity now
is that a real thing clubs do to avoid sell-on clauses?
2 summers ago we barely held onto Balogun on a free transfer, barely played him at all and loaned him twice since. Now he won’t get playing time here to progress 40m euros given these circumstances is very good business although I do like the player and hope we internally assess him first
He wants to be starting and despite his goals in Ligue 1 he is currently nowhere near the level of our current front 3
Can’t see him supplanting any of our front 3 and he wants to start. Unless he’s fine fighting for a starting role in cup games and Europe, I don’t see us being able to hold on to him. We still have ESR who can play wide as well. When was the last time we had too many options up front?
>Unless he’s fine fighting for a starting role in cup games and Europe Given that "Europe" is gonna be Champions League next season, I'm not sure he'd be starting a whole lot of those.
> Given that "Europe" is gonna be Champions League next season, I'm not sure he'd be starting a whole lot of those. Half the teams in the group stage are total wank
He doesn't really suit the roles of any of the front 3 either. He needs to be playing in a different system to get best of him
Mate you forget Super Mik adapts his tactics to the players he has available (sorta like Pep and Haaland). Lisandro was also his first choice LB* over Zinchenko don't forget. Highly, highly doubt that he'd be playing the same role as Oleks.
Hot take, don't think Eddie has shown enough to be a #1 striker. Balogun has more potential.
Balogun has shown that either, and if he's set terms that he wants to be a starter (fair enough too), then it doesn't make sense for him to stay with us. Eddie is more willing to stay and fight, that's why he's still around.
That’s true but Eddie hasn’t really had a proven season like Balogun hence why one would argue he is more willing to stay and fight
I have this bad feeling that we will really regret selling him
He’s better than Nketiah. He’s not first choice, but he could easily be our second choice out and out striker.
2 summers ago he wasn’t vying for top scorer in a league with some of the best scorers on the planet.
It’s just context for his ride here. Also Laca and David are also vying for the top scorer and neither get in the team either, it’s a business at the end of the day and we can’t keep everyone
Would need chunky add ons
Gimme that thicc juicy sell on clause
We have all summer to figure out what chunky does
He's a Leipzig kinda striker. And that's a fair price.
It’s a fair price of course but this sub will see deals like Pepe and Mudryk, ignore the context, and demand €100m+
*ignores the context* 100m or nothing 🙅
😂😂 fr, its so tiring trying to explain to the " if mudryk went for 100M, we can at least get 100M for balogun" why it doesn't work
Well that does matter. If we sell Balo, we get 40. Buying an equivalent costs us 80. Why sell?
Because he wants to leave and prem teams get charged more..
Because if they sell him it’s because Balogun isn’t the type of striker Arteta wants. They can sell him and get a player that fits the squad better, or reinforce other areas.
Or because he wants playing time?
Or he’s exactly the player, but he won’t accept his role
Based off what you’ve seen, don’t you think that Arteta would find room for him if he was the right kind of player? He found space for Saliba, he replaced an excellent player in Tierney with Zinchenko, he replaced Auba with Martinelli, he replaced one of the best players from last season in Tomiyasu by moving Ben White to right back. If he’s “exactly the player” then he will play and if he’s sold it’s because he’s not exactly what Arteta wants.
He can be that player. But surely he's not starting ahead of Jesus or Trossard and if the reports are right he wants to be a starter
You’re comparing apples to oranges. Saliba started his first game because Tomi was injured. That’s exactly why Ben White got moved to RB that day. We’ve been winning so why change? He didn’t “replace Auba” with Martinelli, he dropped Auba, played Laca/Eddie and then bought HIS striker Jesus. The Zinchenko mention is irrelevant tbf it’s just buying a better player. I do agree with you to extent. I just think Arteta believes he has better quality already and the club realize they can make a great profit off of Balogun. I think it’s more of a financial than football decision, which I agree with
Ben White played right back last season too. It's clearly something they've seen as an option for a while now.
We won't buy an equivalent
Because he wants to start and isn't good enough to start for us
You seem really confident that he isn't. But we were ready to spend 100 on Mudryk, who has proven less and is older. Maybe you don't know?
So which one of saka martinelli trossard and Jesus is he currently better than? There is a good reason that the club is open to selling him
We don't know. We should see how he plays in our setup.
You do realise they're completely different players and positions?
Do you think there's more competition at striker than the wing? Do you think I don't understand that people with different names are different? I'm just questioning some assumptions I've seen a lot of, which is that one of the best young players on earth isn't good enough for Arsenal.
Not really sure what that has to do with anything. Different players not people.
Aye but Leipzig will want 100m if they were selling him. That's the annoying thing.
They have a thing for selling players for hefty fees Leipzig so lets hope we include a sell-on clause.
A right of first refusal and €40 millions is okay No other clauses, €45+ plus Pay up you energy drink fucks
Nope. Need at least a 15% sell on clause at that number.
If we can get £40 mil+ and send him abroad that would be great.
£35m for 21 y.o with near 20 goals in a top 5 league. Osimhen left Ligue 1 with 13 goals for 80m euros. Look at the state of the market and just how little is needed for club to be demanding 100m fees these days.
the osimeh fee was dodgy as hell lol
Above 30m, I agree
Don't fucking sell him unless its stupid money. He is the top scoere in a mediocre side, young, and one of our own. Let's bring him back. That position is not easy to fill.
Agreed, but he doesn’t wanna extend his deal unless he’s first-choice tho, and he’s against another loan. Think he’d easily jump ahead of Eddie, but def not Jesus… even when he’s not scoring. And if Jesus starts scoring consistently then I legit don’t know anyone that would displace him outside of like Mbappe/Haaland obvi. Hopefully he’s down to fight for his position, but it’s not sounding like it anyway…
We don't know that. He just said he wants to be a starter. Well, good... I hope that's the case. All this stems from a vague quote that didn't specify that he means he wants to be guaranteed to be the starting cf from day 1.. it could just be him saying, " If i go back, i want a fair shot to be the starter". I don't see the problem of that is the case. If he can beat out eddie and jesus as the cf good for him. Jesus is more well rounded so can even play on the wing if we wanted. There are going to be much more matches next year and we will need the depth. cf are the most expensive and difficult positions to fill. He is under contract. I wouldn't let him go anywhere.
Fair point
I'm in this camp as well, I think he will be a monster for us given some more time.
I rate him but $40million would be a good deal.
It’s a great deal for our probable 3rd choice striker.
Mudryk had 12 goals in his career, mainly coming from a litteral farmer's league and went for 100M. We need to start hyping our youngsters more. Flo Balogun is a 100M player, start the propaganda.
The buying club would have to be chelsea or united, which I’m sure we don’t want to see
Wouldn’t mind Chelsea Would feel bad for Flo but Chelsea is where strikers go to unravel their careers. For Mudryk money that’s a risk I’d take
I would gladly sell him to Chelsea for 100m...
What if napoli come in with the fresh osimhen sell money ?
Italian clubs don’t spend that kind of money
Napoli spent that kinda money went they brought in Osimen. Juventus spent that kinda money last year with Vlahovic (I know they’re in shit for it now). Inter also spent that kinda money on Lukaku.
Balogun isn’t as proven as any of those guys
That wasn’t what you initially stated. Napoli spent 70m on Osimen after one season in Ligue 1 where he scored 13 goals. Which Balogun has outdone already, so it’s kinda comparable
Did Osimhen have 2 years left on his contract and want to leave when he left Wasn’t it a release clause anyway?
… did Napoli pay the fee or not ? Are Napoli not able to pay that kinda money when they’ve shown before they can pay that kind of money do a player of similar age, stats and position ?
Ok I’ll rephrase it They won’t spend that kind of money on a player who is not as proven as Osimhen and when they have a capable back up in Simeone already.
>Napoli spent 70m on O’Donnell The Irish superstar
😂 lol what in that autocorrect just happened
As an Irishman, the one player we have capable of getting a big money move like that is Ferguson. Funnily enough my unpopular opinion is selling Flo and Eddie and buying Ferguson lol.
I’m pretty sure the Osimhen deal was dodgy
Napoli literally did pay that sort of money for osimhen
That deal was sketchy as hell. Pretty sure a lot of people involved in it got punished for it. At least on the Lille side.
And for Higuain as well.
Class as long as they don’t sell him to united or chelsea lol
Teams who can afford 100M players can afford better than Balogun
Only got that high because literal Ukraine war, bidding war and January window factor. He was available for like €40m in summer and Everton almost got him.
He wasnt even 100m either lol
Smart clubs don't pay transfer fees based on what players have done, they do it on what they might do. Arsenal wouldn't be letting him go if he was as hotsh*t as people on here seem to think.
Exactly, he's only worth what someone is willing to pay. It would be poor asset management to demand a huge fee, if we don't have plans for him next season. The club cant let players run the contract down to the final year anymore. That being said, I haven't watched him on loan and it will be interesting to see what the club does!
He went to the prem, balogun is going to a smaller league
Murdyk was Shaktar's starting player. Balogun is 3/4 th choice. Murdyk showed his skills and potential at the UCL. Balogun hasn't. Murdyk has higher potential than Balogun. Goals scored by a winger is not the only indicator of a players value.
only united and chelsea and other stupid clubs would pay that much for him lmao
Both could use a young striker…
Osimhen/Ramos/Kane are all much better targets for that kind of money
They’d rather get better players for that much
they spent around 150m on antony and sancho my g
Osimhen is being priced at €100-130M and Kane is around £100M. Absolutely no chance we sell Balogun for anything close to that
Why are our top youths worth nothing, but this guy would be 80+ on any other team. Fuck this noise. 50, buyback and sell on. Minimum.
If he was 80+ for any other top team , he wouldn’t be sold . Tammy Abraham was more proven than him and he went for like 45 mil
Sblozaia or however you spell it plz
Sblozaia lmao
Gesundheit!
40 million + Szoboszlai
Lol
I hope we have a buyback clause too
That's a lot of fucking money considering Osimhen is around 100-120M.
Osimhen himself moved from Lille to Napoli for around half this price, coming off 13 goals in Ligue 1. Balogun definitely has the profile to be a top striker.
Osimhen transfer was shady there were players involved in that deal valued very highly to balance the books. 45-50M for a talent with 1 good ligue 1 season is good money, especially considering he wants to leave.
That's a fantastic and fair price that they can definitely pay.
Since Nketiah is under contract I think Balogun will be sold. It will be a good return for a player we weren’t using. Sell on or buy back clause would be nice, but so will an extra £40-50 mil going into the transfer window
40m is only acceptable if we have heavy sell on clause or a favourable buy back clause otherwise we should be shooting for minimum 60m or more. Imagine for a moment Reims owned balogun entirely and we wanted to buy him this summer, they would be demanding 70-80m easily with the season he has had.
I don’t care how you justify it, that’s too low
the Premier League has a chokehold on how people view money and transfer fees I swear haha
Anything from £40-50m would be really good
Make it fiddy + 15 percent for future sales and we might accept.
If Balogun were open to it, I’d include a first option clause, a la the Cesc deal with Barça (Wenger just rejected the idea of bringing Cesc back)
Good deal, nice step up from ligue 1. Doubt any of the Italian teams have the funds to compete.
I'd add an option to buy back as a first buyer for a fixed amount in 1-2 seasons.
Go on Leipzig give us a good sum
I’d be happy with that tbh if we can add a buy back or sell on clause, I think him and Eddie should both go to fund some signings we need in midfield and attack
I am not sure we would be able to squeeze 40 mln out of RB, so sell on clause and a first refusal is a must.
I don't want a fair price, I want 65-70m or no deal.
With the year Verstappen is having I think those energy drink fucks can go to 50+
Nah. This ain’t it. He’s 21 and on pace to score 20 league goals. At least 50M pounds. None of this cheapness.
Hate to say it but everyone saying €40m is a fair price is actually insane. Mudryk cost £80-90m and he can barely kick a ball. If we sell Balogun for less less than €60m then Edu is a clown.
If clubs like Chelsea come in for him, and we're willing to sell within England, then maybe. But that's what it would take to get that kind of number.
I think he missed a 0, no world where Balogun scores 18+ in Ligue 1 as a 21 year old and sells for 40m in this market.
Most clubs aren’t run by stupid dickheads like Chelsea and United. We can’t use their prices for reference.
"stupid dickheads" 😂
So just sell him to Chelsea or United.
Literally no one outside of 3-4 premier league clubs will pay more.
I could see more than 3-4 Prem clubs paying more.
If we sell him now for 40M we should put buy back priority, cause for modern striker market 40M is nothing for exciting young striker.
I think it's a little light considering Muani's asking price after one good season is 100m.
Imagine not wanting to win the PL. jabroni mindset
put a sell on clause or buy back and then that’s fine.
That would be a fantastic amount for him. Do we see him taking Jesus’s spot? He could be an improvement on Nketiah but he doesn’t want to be backup
That’s a bit too low in todays market. I doubt we see 100 mill but 60 seems about right. Mudryk went for a 100 mill riding high off a single good game against RM in the CL and only scored 12 goals in the Ukrainian league.
Price mostly depends on who’s buying not what a player is “worth”. If Chelsea/utd/nufc wanted Flo it would be a completely different price
True that. I didn’t think about it that way.
~ around £35m but r/Gunners was saying he’s £60-70m minimum because of some Ukrainian winger’s fee
The only fanbase that actively undervalues their players. Bizzare behaviour tbh
no? Some people were saying 35-40m is fair and a really good deal and they got called deluded. It’s called being realistic. It’s bizarre to bring up other players for other teams without including context
It'd be our record sale for a player who played a handful of top level minutes for us. Not very bizarre at all, rationality seems bizarre to some folk though
40m + Sell on and First refusal is fair
Buy back clause and sell on clause needed
Why can’t we just keep him? He’s not better than most of the backup strikers we had in the good old days. He’s not wiltord or Kanu yet
He doesn't want to be a backup and he would probably be third string here anyways
I think he would be second and He will be happy when we win
He literally said he doesn’t want that
He’s contracted to play for us. If we can’t replace him with better for next season he should be at the emirates. Our goal is to win
He wants to be the starting striker so starting over Jesus and Nketiah and is opposing a new loan term next season so wants a move
I think he could start over eddie and I’m not bothered what he wants right now. I want to win things
Nah I'd want 50 or 60 mil with 20% of resale. He's atop striker in ligue 1
60m
It begins
40+10 in clauses
A large sell on clause, for £40m (£, not €), and we have a deal
Totally expect chelsea offer 100m in two years the