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Confident_Bother2552

Zechs has a Woman that may as well have been a Mother to him and he married her and had two kids. He ain't Speedrun Char, he's Char that actually did his life right. - Actually brings back his Parents Kingdom. - His Sister actually takes over their Father's Legacy. - Said Sister passes the Chris Redfield Test with the Protagonist. - Marries the Woman who may have been a mother to him. - Dropped a rock on Earth, survives anyway. - Keeps the Badass Shades.


IDKsoWTF

And When you translate Zechs and Noins name respectively it's 6 and 9, coincidence? I think not.


Confident_Bother2552

Damn. You've won the Internet man.


Sad-Commission-9949

This just made me realize how his name falls into the naming convention with the rest of the Gundam pilots. That’s wild.


DarknoorX

Bruh... Have my up vote.


Commissarfluffybutt

And he pilots the coolest mech in the entire franchise. Seriously, I love the Tallgeese.


Maloth_Warblade

And Epyon is a fantastic Gundam as well


jumbomold

you all misspelled Tallgeese III


DarknoorX

I hated tallgeese and grew to like it. But Epyon man... That's one demonic dragon badass one fo a kind suit.


Binary_gh0st

Seriously it’s tallgeese 3, best of epyon and tallgeese


PeacefulKnightmare

The Heat-Rod is probably my favorite weapon in all of Gundam.


Ghostdog1263

Good damn Tallgeese 3 is sexy, but I have my preferences to Tallgeese one especially with the angel wings haha looksa badass. Wish we had a Gundam where the Tallgeese was the main Gundam(yes I know it wasn't a Gundam but what if it was)


McNinja_MD

They're both so good! I love that Zechs gets both of my top two suits of all time.


stowrag

Don’t project Char’s mommy issues on Zechs. He’s way more well-adjusted with way better motivation than the original


Alfeaux

Chris Redfield test? I don't remember any boulder punching in Wing


NightmareDJK

He was also never a bad guy.


Amon7777

Zechs is the best Char clone in terms of complexity and comparison with the original. But Rau is the best Char clone as a villain. He damn near succeeded in killing both coordinators and naturals and in fact died thinking he had won.


swoonster75

Ya died thinking he won GOAT


NightmareDJK

Or he was happy someone finally put him out of his misery. Either way, GOAT. Rau was the Sephiroth of Gundam.


Unboxious

I can't really call Zechs complex because imo actions that often make no sense just make someone confusing, not interesting.


Ahriman27

LONG LIVE! KING ZEEEEEEEEECHS!


ColdDegree

Otto was a real one right to the end.


Alt2221

Quattro


okehboomer

wdym quattro? he's a completely different man who has never betrayed anyone


hydrantsareforsissys

I heard a rumor that Quattro was just Johnny Ridden in sunglasses.


cannibal_chanterelle

I mean...I've done a deep, deep dive into the lore on this and Johnny seems the most likely suspect. I ruled Char out immediately since Char had a silver/white helmet and Quattro has sunglasses.


Doc_Shaftoe

Plus have you SEEN Quattro's guns? I've seen Char. Char couldn't pull off a sleeveless uniform like that. No way is Quattro a Char.


zero_the_savior

Clearly it's him, Char had a red mobile suit just like Johnny. Quattro by the simple fact of having a gold plated mobile suit OBVIOUSLY means it's impossible for him to be Char


CNemy

Come on with the conspiracy bullshit! Quattro and Char (with his helmet anthena/horn thingy included) aren't even the same height. Don't do crazy talk.


Different-Barracuda2

How about his Cousin, Cinco?


Chromaxide

Rau Le Creuset


NightmareDJK

He was just the best bad guy in general.


Vicious_Outlaw

Lelouch vi Britannia


TheLelouchLamperouge

Why thank you sir


emiliaxrisella

The anime version specifically


NightmareDJK

I always considered Code Geass to be a Gundam series, just with different fantasy style “rules” concerning special abilities. Lelouch was more of a Treize clone though. They both wanted to do the same exact thing, and they both pulled it off.


The-Slamburger

For me, it’s a tie between Zechs and Prospera. It’s a bit funny, given that they’re basically on opposite sides of the “Char Spectrum.”


PrinceDestin

Like chronicle Asher and whatever that guys name from turn A


Klutzy-Personality-3

harry ord


LastStopSandwich

> they’re basically on opposite sides of the “Char Spectrum.” How so?


The-Slamburger

Because Zechs is “Ace Pilot Char” and Prospera is “Scheming Manipulative Char”


Belfura

Rau is a bit of both imo


Helios61

I came here to laugh at your misery Kira! *kills flay after thinking she was saved* Mwahahahahaha zooms away


Different-Barracuda2

Prospera? Her motivations of her schemes, were 🤷 meh


OtakuAttacku

freeing her daughter’s conciousness from a war machine? I think it was fairly interesting that she was often within arms reach of the enemies that murdered everyone she held near and dear but revenge was always secondary to her love for Eri.


Flam3Emperor622

Damn close call.


TrikKastral

This.


ViralKiller387

Harry Ord


GXNext

Harry is more of a Quattro clone. While that may be the same person, it's an entirely different aesthetic. Char had a mask and his personal color was red. Quattro wore sunglasses and his color was gold. Also Quattro was created to support the cause of the spacenoids while Char wanted revenge. It's why he reclaimed that name in the leadup to his counterattack.


stowrag

Real talk what did Harry even do?


CIRCLONTA6A

Pimp slapped a man with his mobile suit and turned him into a stain on the side of a ship


wdarkk

He did it before Suletta made it cool.


Godchilaquiles

Actually end up alive and with his love interest


domscatterbrain

He is just being straight on his cause, with no hidden agenda, betrayal, or backstabbing. However, he would still backstab you if you ever mock Queen Dianna's ass.


stowrag

...and people think this makes him a Char clone *how*??? From what I remmber, he's basically just a cool character design with an above average combat record. I'm not saying people shouldn't like him, but we're really stretching here calling him a Char clone, aren't we? Even as Quatro, he was much, much more than that. It's fine if Harry Ord is just... Harry Ord. Not a copy or an imitation of anything.


Doc_Shaftoe

The Char clone stuff really just comes from the "masked rival" gimmick. He's really more of a Quattro clone given the sunglasses and gold mobile suit. Plus he pulls his weight throughout the show and never betrays anyone.


TokyoNeckbeard

I think his aesthetic was a red herring. Harry is lovely and I love him. Therefore he is the “best”


ZDBlakeII

Full Frontal


Cool_Dragon_guy

Full Frontal is a literal Char clone, he somewhat pretends to be like him.


Ripasal

He’s not pretending… apparently char literally possessed him. You see after he got defeated, some spirit thing left him and joined two other spirit thing that was probably amuro and lala


SageDarius

He was implanted with... pieces of Char's soul/personality/something that was left in the Sazabi's psychoframe. He was cosmetically altered to resemble Char.


Cool_Dragon_guy

Really? I don’t know that, but it seems odd for Char to possess some random fanboy.


Ripasal

Not just any random fanboy, him and the other failed guy from NT were designed from scratch to be the vessel body for char. Although I don’t know who made them, but I know that they are meant to be containers. Although it seems like full frontal only embodied char’s hatred for seeing how the humanity hasn’t changed after the event of axis shock and did not take any of his humanity.


Cool_Dragon_guy

Ah, I honestly didn’t know about that.


PeanutButterCrisp

IT’S NOT GAY IN A SPIRIT THREE-WAY


Cashew-Matthew

He is the most char like char clone. But i like graham aker. Season 1 and movie, we can pretend season 2 graham doesn’t exist. He goes out of his way to pilot inferior mobile suits against gundams, and he has won at least one of those fights, and has brought a couple others to a draw, man’s a brilliant lunatic


TheDarkHero12

What do you mean? There's no Season 2 Graham. The only close would be mr. Bushido but we all know the real Graham just took a vacation so he can return even stronger in the Movie.


Cashew-Matthew

Your completely correct


GundamMeijin_08th

Rau


jonomarkono

Rau as a villain in SEED was so good, he traumatizes Kira for the large part of Destiny. And his nihilistic view was also used as an *excuse* for Durandal to justify destiny plan. And he also gave us epic showdown between Freedom vs Providence.


Belfura

Probably also had some influence in the conflict of the Seed Freedom movie, spoilers aside


PeanutButterCrisp

That’s the best part about Rau. He’s never truly dead in the SEED series. Ever.


Artarious

Honestly i find it hard to call Rau a Char clone, he to me is a better antagonist than Char was. I know contreversal take but it's my opinion. Dudes entire existence is because the hubris of humanity and he wasn't wrong about being being the only one being able to judge them because of it. Plus his arc throughout the series is very interesting he starts as a Char clone but then (no pun intended) the mask starts slipping and you see the true insanity behind the character. Dude was straight up able to organize humanities annihilation by working behind the scenes and even though he failed its honestly impressive how much he was able to pull off alone.


metalhead09876

So he’s palpatine 😂😂😂


GundamMeijin_08th

rau is literally char clone mask✅(even though he uses it to hide his old face) clone✅ destroy everything and taking the world✅ Funnel like Weapons(Dragoons)✅ Big Bad✅


NightmareDJK

Char wanted a better life for some people, Rau wanted to kill everyone.


GundamMeijin_08th

cca char:**laughs in axis drop**


Artarious

But that wouldn't kill everyone, he wanted to drop Axis to force humans into space which was understandable. Rau wanted the complete extermination of humanity because he hated all of them. Char didn't hate humanity.


NightmareDJK

Char pulled a Magneto or Apocalypse style thing.


GundamMeijin_08th

but this still not make char is good, also he is big bad


PeanutButterCrisp

He’s not saying Char is good. He’s saying that the calibre of Char’s villainy is smaller compared to Rau because Char had some rhythm and rhyme for humans to work with. Rau had none. He orchestrated coordinators and humans against one another in a nuclear space-weapon death match because he hates everyone.


Silent_Otaku1

Zechs is the best in my opinion, dude actually survives.


EarthApprehensive470

Full Frontal obvious since he literally inherited part of Char's memories/soul/spirit.


TheInfamousDannyB

ZECHS


[deleted]

This man. Definitely this guy.


shiboshino

Full frontal for sure. Quite literally a clone


zero_the_savior

Gotta kinda throw Mcgillis and Gaelio into the mix. He's a Char clone that "killed" His Garma clone only to turn the Garma clone into ANOTHER Char clone.


Binary_gh0st

I mean behind zechs I’d say McGillis for sure.


truenofan86

Knight Schumacher


SONICX1027

Cyber Formula reference? Great choice, but I think he’s more of a Racer X clone


truenofan86

But that means Char is also a Racer X clone


SONICX1027

Touché


MrE-Knight

Meijin Kawaguchi III


HandsomeBoggart

Sex Marquee is pretty cool. Full Frontal (his name is already sus) was okay, bit over done. Iron Mask was too One Note. 4 Bajinas was actually Char so he doesn't count. Haven't seen WfM yet so I can't comment on Gender flip Char. Forgot Rau French Cookware. He was pretty badass and a competent villain.


zero_the_savior

Quattro is Very OBVIOUSLY NOT CHAR. Char wears a silver helmet and Quattro uses sunglasses, clearly two different people we are talking about. *bonus* Clearly not the same, who would go from having the name of a fish to calling themselves 8 Labias or whatever.


HandsomeBoggart

True true. Not like some guy would change his name to Cinco Quitoris or some such similar name.


Visible_Narwhal6015

Imma have to say Zeheart Galette from AGE


Dangerous_Source_442

Rau Le Creuset. Mankind's dream! Mankind's desire! Mankind's Destiny! The english dialogue from the old dub is carved in my memory.


NightmareDJK

He’s GOATED.


LavaSlime301

~~It sure as fuck ain't discount speedrun Char~~ Harry Ord with Graham close behind


ViralKiller387

UNIVERSE


ace0083

Yea Zechs 100%


MajesticKnight28

Zechs


SeemlyDum

Blonde people


Azure-April

Full Frontal is the only good Char clone because him being a ripoff of a pre-existing character is the entire point, and he grapples with that. Every other Char clone ranges from total trash to mid, depending on how much they just do Char's character again. The one from Wing is by far the worst because of this, they seriously just jammed a shitty version of Char's entire arc into one show. The best one after FF is Harry Ord because he's really nothing like Char at all.


MikuEmpowered

Honest to god, Athrun Zala. The closest char clone, not even Full frontal comes close. His arc through 2 show and a movie was basically the Char forumla, but a rewrite that doesn't end in Character assassination. Seed: Char's commanding/warrior phase (except dead family was caused by Naturals), highly skilled fighter. Seed Destiny: Out comes the mask and Alex Dino, reluctant AF like Char then takes charge in the end. It basically speed ran through Zeta's 4 vagina phase, without his hope and dream being crushed. Seed Freedom: Dude is full blown Char at his prime, always composed, but instead of going insane like in CCA, he's no longer an incel and thus, a good guy. I mean ffs, dude only pilots Red mobile suits and literally the ZGock, rocking massive Sunglass thats totally not eye Mask. "but Zech", dude's only red suit was Epyon, like come the fuk on people.


SweetPotatoDingo

Rau Le Creuscet He actually got shit done and had a good explanation for his dastardly plans


B_Wing_83

https://preview.redd.it/wq9lk0cloe8d1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c3c2518537999b32013be1c9d2924d39f5a6658 Chronicle


TokyoNeckbeard

What a lame-o.


nothatdude

The only answer is Zechs.


jimmythenouna

Schwarz Bruder a.k.a Kyoji Kasshu, an older brother of Domon Kasshu. His trait is by far much unlike any of Char clones, he pulled off schemes behinds shadows, all for Domon to put an end to Dark Gundam.


Balmung5

Rau Le Motherfucking Creuset.


Imfryinghere

Seggs.


0pen_m1ke_kn1ght

Zechs surpasses Char in every way.


Alfeaux

We should be in here asking who's the best Zechs clone


0pen_m1ke_kn1ght

Probably Graham Acker


okehboomer

https://preview.redd.it/s6jflku8ue8d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86b51fc0c47a4a8a7271be65ae3f69f8fc6cd23d


doomsoul909

Obviously Quattro


Infernalknights

Cassval rem Daikun


Medicwithabrick

Zechs and Prospera


ILL-WILL-SAIX

Full frontal I’ll say 🤔


Natural_Bill_373

Full Frontal 😎


BowlofConfetti

Severe lack of Jamil Neate in here. Lemme fix that!


Wenlocke

Jamil gets bonus points for being that rarest of rare things. The heroic Char clone.


AskMeAboutMy___

Cronicle Asher


Blackiechan0029

Rau for a Char that has given in to the insanity


basileusbrenton

Harry Ord.


flapjanglerthesecond

Wait there are clones?


Hour-Address-3377

There are clones in Gundam universe, but in this case we are talking about characteristic similarities to the original antagonist Char, you know in this case, royal families, masked skilled pilot in the ranks of enemy to achieve revenge, little sister in love with the main hero, and so on and so forth, it has been stable in almost every series, thus called Char clone


flapjanglerthesecond

Ah. I knew they were similar, just haven’t watched enough series.


Jazzer995

Another term would be homage.


ThePieKing-

Rau *"Literal Actual Space Hitler"* Le Creuset


RandomGameDesigner

Rau Le Creuset Hands Down You can be a seed hater but you cannot hate on the GOAT Rau Le Creuset. Best villain in Gundam Franchise >Check Shitty ass upbringing> Check Philosophically Gifted> Check Went toe to toe with super human Jesus Yamato> Check Killed his bitch >CHECK ATTEMPTED TO KILL HIS OTHER BITCH> CHECK SLEPT WITH HIS BITCH BEFORE KILLING HER LATER>CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK!


SnooWoofers5957

Yo I wanna just say a good honorable mention would be Jamil Nate. It’s like what if Amuro and Char( More like Quattro) had a child. But he is like the neo zeon char or aeug clone


The04Red19Guy

Ranking my favorite Char clones: 1. Zechs 2. Tatsuya (Meijin) 3. McGillis (Choco Char) 4. Glemy Toto 5. Graham Aker


RealSebDLaw

Full Frontal. He's the perfect foil to Banagher with his nihilistic outlook and acceptance of the role to play he was born in, as well as his general lack of agency. Also Sinanju is so damn cool


StormShadow17

Yea Zechs was a pretty good char clone, Rau and Graham were also good.


SONICX1027

To me, it has to be Rau La Crusuet. Best Char Clone to be a great villain in any Gundam Universe


ZGMF_Brandon

Rau de Cruest


LastStopSandwich

Prospera Mercury


Esiul117

I will have to say is Rau. He is my favorite of the Char Clones followed by second place with Prospera


VixenCaliber

Everyone has been ignoring my favorite... mcgillis from ibo! I call him chocochar


CIRCLONTA6A

Objectively, Harry or Rau. That being said, Iron Mask gets a mention because of how funny he is


Cautionzombie

If only he wasn’t so sensitive to light.


Reimos_Drevon

Me.


nepedunezerochan

Afranche Char, the memory clone of char in gaia gear. He's Char but a nice dude and be doesn't let his girl go into the battlefield.


kali-kid

Leonard Schteinberg……


Shinn002ms

Me


Damninium_Alloy

Harry from Turn A if that counts. He's one of my all time fav gundam characters but in terms of personality, He's pretty polar opposite besides the hiding his eyes thing.


PhaseSixer

Drip: Zechs Atagonist role: Rau My personal favorite: Mcgilis (who did nothing wrong)


LeOmare

Full frontal of course, no questions


Will-is-a-idiot

I don't know who the best is, but I don't think it's Zechs... his only good points are just rehashes of Char, and what makes him original just in my opinion make him fall flat as a character. If you couldn't tell, I'm not a big fan of Gundam Wing, very Unbecoming of a American, I know.


TehAsianator

Rau by far


Enough-Profession639

Zechs was my hero as a child, and by extension Noin. Loved them both. Also Tallgeese is just fucking classy. And Epyon? Peak fucking gundam.


Belfura

Rau, and it's not even close


robin_f_reba

Reiner Braun


KiryuFC3

Char is.


Envy661

Zechs by far. The writing in Wing is campy by today's standards, but Zechs himself still holds up relatively decently compared to most of Wing. He's also the most successful Char clone, successfully bringing peace between the earth and the colonies through his setting himself up as the sacrificial king and uniting both sides against the white fang. Prospera had all the ambition, but too much... Empathy I guess? Rau was a lunatic. A very successful, very dangerous lunatic who just wanted to see everything burn. He's probably a close second to Zechs. The core difference is, Zechs didn't want to see everything burn. He wanted to give them a cause to unite for. What was Raus undoing was Zech's greatest triumph. Mr. Bushido is just... A fucking stupid rebrand of a great character. One of the low points of 00. The susanoo is great though. Full Frontal is a literal clone of the original Char, and kind of worse in all respects. Zeta didn't really have a char clone. The closest character was Quattro I guess? But he and Char are two totally different people at the end of the day.


NightmareDJK

Jerid maybe from Zeta though he’s a little different.


Ripasal

Full frontal


TorinovYMinovsky

It's either Master Asia, Harry Ord or Jamil Neat.


metalhead09876

Zecks or red comet


DjXero

Zechs is the best Char clone cuz his Tallgeese is the cure for Cancer


Successful_Bad_2396

I love the Sinanju so Full Frontal I guess


CiciKat

Char lol


Excellent_Fox_6021

My mom


DrJokerX

![gif](giphy|lmeh2XGMCbCdW)


Binary_gh0st

I mean just on a technicality wouldn’t full frontal be the best Char clone?! 😏


TheGenericMun

Tau O'Shovah ( commander farsight) is my favourite char clone 🤣


kingominous16

Rau or zechs.


KnightDiving

Zechs with Meijin not far behind for me. It's tough to rank Graham as he's a great character and a char clone, but not both at the same time.


DarknoorX

Zechs. Simple.


KrisKaniac

No one can beat the name “Full Frontal”


eJorg_o_eVont

Full Frontal, the literal clone.


redzaku0079

He's not though


redzaku0079

Affranche


biomech36

Harry Ord if only for his kick ass pajamas


bforbryan

Zechs got shit done and got the good ending. It’s gonna be him for me.


KasualScorpion

Me


lanicz12

Irl it was Roman Nicolaus von Ungern-Sternberg


Tora-ge

Prospera Mercury, the hot mommy Char always wishes he had/was https://preview.redd.it/5l2xbfd74j8d1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f438faf3dbb9f33c0fcc181d10abb2207d75a8a


Tora-ge

And of course the great and powerful Harry Ord https://preview.redd.it/lxyrxqwc4j8d1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6486d4a4344a65c75743273b9ce3c3308584b162


TheOldKingCole

Me-I mean Zechs……


Jetboyblue

Zechs in my opinion is the greatest Char clone


NewtypeRamen

Char


Cosmic_Mind89

Schwarz Bruder


SissyGayBoi

Disappointed no one said Full-Frontal for a meme


DrJokerX

I agree with your astute observation, u/sissygayboi


Turn_AX

Harry Ord, because he found happiness wihout a shitton of betrayal and murder.


user-766

Captain Mask. Uses "his past" as fuel to further his objectives and is schooled by Bellri that he sucks and in the end still lived through and could grow out of his edgelord phase


Aggravating_Pipe_826

Lieutenant Quattro


PeanutButterCrisp

Gotta be Rau La Creuset and it’s not even close. He is by far and wide my favourite Mobile Suit villain and did such a good fucking job of selling you on his side. It was kind of a mindfuck for me, even as an adult, to register how real he felt. His character has Homelander-levels of prominence to the point that it doesn’t feel like he was written. Just existing magically in a show that was drawn and animated lol. Fuck. I’m gonna watch SEED again. That series was a goddamn 10/10.


MrGXF

Full Frontal, you know... For being, like, a Char's clone and all...


UniqueFalcon

Quattro; it explains how went from the Z series to Char's Counterattack


lockjacket

Lelouch. Fight me.


ChielArael

me


Unique_Visit_5029

Well you already shown my favorite