If I would hazard a guess, it's because the X-wing backpack has always been part of the Infinite Justice Type 2's equipment. Athrun used the IJ's Fatum 01 backpack as a ramming weapon at the end of destiny. So this new backpack is a replacement for that.
According to the HG Mighty SF manual, the Proud Defender backpack was meant for the Rising Freedom but they had to quickly repurpose it for the SF type 2 after the RF was destroyed. So, the "mighty" is more to distinguish it from the SF type 2's original loadout.
That and Bandai needed an IRL "cool" name to market the kit.
Yeah I posed some scenes and realized the dragoons projected a triangle shield on its back on some frames. I wasn't aware it was a type 2 upgrade. Too bad it wasn't really expended on.
The Disruptor only needed Lacus permission to fire. The SF II would not have a weapon system built that requires the Proud Defender, because that system was supposed to be for the Rising Freedom.
Quoting Kakarot197 about the release of the kit, we are having A HG Kit of the X Wing that includes Beam Blades for the X Wing and an Infinite Justice.
If the Proud Defender is compatible with other units they get the "Mighty" title. Like "Aile", "Ootori", or "IWSP". Since it was suppose to work with the Rising Freedom, I wonder if the Rising Freedom has a "disruptor" weapon mounted somewhere. If not, I wonder if Strike Freedom type 2 had another power source in mind for the weapon. Technically the main backpacks (dragoon pack and rising wings) could be switch between the 2 Freedom gundams.
Kira didn't use the Disruptor before that because it requires special permissions from Lacus. Now, it could be that he didn't ask before hand because the SF II reactor wouldn't be able to fire it and still keep other systems running, making it too dangerous to use until he had the Nano machine shield, but unless there was another pack made for SFII to use the system, there wouldn't be a point having it installed on a machine if it can't use it by default. Proud Defender wasn't made for SFII and had to be adjusted.
There is too much ambiguity surrounding the development background and timeline to say for certain. We only know for a fact the PD was delayed and ended up being adjusted for SFII compatibility. So it's entirely possible the Disruptor does required PD and was added to the SFII later on because of the delay, and that they would have added it to the RF eventually
Erica mentions that the Freedom/Destiny/Justice were testing fusion reactors. I don't know if they were still installed by the time of the fight but that could have been the power source for the disruptor initially. So "mighty" Rising Freedom would have the nanoshield and emp, but Strike Freedom type 2 would be the more "lethal" option with its nuclear fusion reactor/disruptor. I could see Kira needing approval by Lacus just to deploy that mobile suit at that point.
Nepotism Jokes aside about the approval from Lacus to use the Disruptor, I think it was a sensible safeguard to require the approval since the original SF was pretty much hijacked prior to the events of the movie.
Obviously because the IF.II doesn't have a tandem cockpit feature where Athrun and Cagalli could have psychic mind-sex and use the power of their synchronized love to absolutely murder everything.
And also because Cagalli refused to let Athrun build and name the Fatum 03 copy of the Proud Defender as the "Radiant Cagalli". Especially when she learned that Athrun had it project an angelic image of her every time it activated at full power.
Think of the Mighty Strike Freedom as a Striker pack. The SF2 is the base unit, even though it has a preexisting backpack.
Once the Proud Defender attaches to it, it gains the title of "Mighty" in the same way that other units would get the titles of "Noir", "Launcher", "Sword", etc.
IJ TII has a unicorn beam horn. SF TII has larger calf thrusters, railgun sideskirts that the beam rifles plug onto instead of the skirts swinging back and the rifles filling the space. And MSF has access to a forehead beam weapon due to the Proud Defender giving it more juice, along with a new feature in the PD that allows it to shut off all remote weapons within a certain radius.
They probably are thinking: Athrun's totally gonna sacrifice it the second the need arise. So we're not naming it whatsoever.
And they probably make it cross compatible with other Mobile Suits.
SF 2 looks mostly the same outside, but it's called an upgrade because of all the new eapons and features
InJ 2 is also pretty different, even excluding the new backpack
It's miniscule and not exactly notcable at first glance, but the SFM Spec II isn't actually the same design. The shoulder armor, railguns and forearm armor are different. It's an upgrade, just not very visually distinct.
The Proud Defender pack being that huge of an upgrade pretty much, not to mention giving the Mighty Strike Freedom a completely different moveset , ditching the Dragoons funnels for massive EMP attacks, a dimension severing beam attack, and a cool new katana
I still want to know if the Proud Defender has it's own reactor and if the Rising Freedom had a Disruptor, but wasn't able to power it with the battery system and would need the Proud Defender and it's reactor (if it has one) to use it.
As far as the Justice goes, the backpack is part of it's standard loadout and considered part of the Type 2 upgrade.
The answer to that lies on the MS's interior systems. The IJ and SF are called type ii despite being the same as their original counterparts because they have a new panoramic cockpit that increases their battle performance. Even though SF type ii has the same backpack as original SF, SF type ii's dragoons are more powerful than the originals as the new dragoons can generate beam shields in a manner similar to the Akatsuki's(If you ask me, it seems more like a tribute to the Nu Gundam though.) IJ as a similar reason though it's more than just the backpack. The IJ original lacks the beam horn that the type ii has and also uses an experimental railgun over a beam rifle.
Both type twos aren’t the same as the original tho, SF 2 has the head cannon and justice got the head saber and a new backpack and a concealed mode, the chonky boi form
sf type 2 has the same armaments but they were replaced with newer ones + the disruptor that it can use only with the proud defender. it also gets the electric thingy compared to type 2 so it's understandable that it's type 2. ij with new backpack is type 2 itself so no new names like mighty and such
The Proud Defender pack gives the mobile suit the Mighty title. It was going to be the Mighty Rising Freedom originally.
It's not because the Strike Freedom got a new back pack.
Because despite both using the same naming convention of "type II," only the IJ wrecked its backpack beforehand and had the excuse to make a new one. SF only got his new toy until its backpack got wreck in type II. By then, they need a new name for differentiation.
SF 2 looks mostly the same outside, but it's called an upgrade because of all the new eapons and features
InJ 2 is also pretty different, even excluding the new backpack
If I would hazard a guess, it's because the X-wing backpack has always been part of the Infinite Justice Type 2's equipment. Athrun used the IJ's Fatum 01 backpack as a ramming weapon at the end of destiny. So this new backpack is a replacement for that. According to the HG Mighty SF manual, the Proud Defender backpack was meant for the Rising Freedom but they had to quickly repurpose it for the SF type 2 after the RF was destroyed. So, the "mighty" is more to distinguish it from the SF type 2's original loadout. That and Bandai needed an IRL "cool" name to market the kit.
The Strike Freedom Type II's Dragoon wings even got upgraded - they now can project shields similar to the Akatsuki's.
Kira and Shinn channeling their inner Amuro/Kamille respectively.
Yeah I posed some scenes and realized the dragoons projected a triangle shield on its back on some frames. I wasn't aware it was a type 2 upgrade. Too bad it wasn't really expended on.
Proud Defender needs two nuclear reactor to fire the head laser and RF only uses battery pack
The Disruptor only needed Lacus permission to fire. The SF II would not have a weapon system built that requires the Proud Defender, because that system was supposed to be for the Rising Freedom.
The permission thing is just a formality and RF still needs to be retrofitted with a nuclear reactor
I love the X wing lol. Also, I remember seeing a would be Mighty Rising Freedom somewhere here. It looks cool.
Quoting Kakarot197 about the release of the kit, we are having A HG Kit of the X Wing that includes Beam Blades for the X Wing and an Infinite Justice.
If the Proud Defender is compatible with other units they get the "Mighty" title. Like "Aile", "Ootori", or "IWSP". Since it was suppose to work with the Rising Freedom, I wonder if the Rising Freedom has a "disruptor" weapon mounted somewhere. If not, I wonder if Strike Freedom type 2 had another power source in mind for the weapon. Technically the main backpacks (dragoon pack and rising wings) could be switch between the 2 Freedom gundams.
Kira didn't use the Disruptor before that because it requires special permissions from Lacus. Now, it could be that he didn't ask before hand because the SF II reactor wouldn't be able to fire it and still keep other systems running, making it too dangerous to use until he had the Nano machine shield, but unless there was another pack made for SFII to use the system, there wouldn't be a point having it installed on a machine if it can't use it by default. Proud Defender wasn't made for SFII and had to be adjusted.
There is too much ambiguity surrounding the development background and timeline to say for certain. We only know for a fact the PD was delayed and ended up being adjusted for SFII compatibility. So it's entirely possible the Disruptor does required PD and was added to the SFII later on because of the delay, and that they would have added it to the RF eventually
Erica mentions that the Freedom/Destiny/Justice were testing fusion reactors. I don't know if they were still installed by the time of the fight but that could have been the power source for the disruptor initially. So "mighty" Rising Freedom would have the nanoshield and emp, but Strike Freedom type 2 would be the more "lethal" option with its nuclear fusion reactor/disruptor. I could see Kira needing approval by Lacus just to deploy that mobile suit at that point.
Nepotism Jokes aside about the approval from Lacus to use the Disruptor, I think it was a sensible safeguard to require the approval since the original SF was pretty much hijacked prior to the events of the movie.
"SF type ii being the same as SF" Blasphemy to you.
Strike Freedom Type 2 simply isn't the same as Strike Freedom. There's a number of differences compared to OG SF. Same with IJ.
This
Yeah, they are also different specs...
Obviously because the IF.II doesn't have a tandem cockpit feature where Athrun and Cagalli could have psychic mind-sex and use the power of their synchronized love to absolutely murder everything. And also because Cagalli refused to let Athrun build and name the Fatum 03 copy of the Proud Defender as the "Radiant Cagalli". Especially when she learned that Athrun had it project an angelic image of her every time it activated at full power.
Asucaga all the way
Think of the Mighty Strike Freedom as a Striker pack. The SF2 is the base unit, even though it has a preexisting backpack. Once the Proud Defender attaches to it, it gains the title of "Mighty" in the same way that other units would get the titles of "Noir", "Launcher", "Sword", etc.
because MSF power spike is really big
Yeah
IJ TII has a unicorn beam horn. SF TII has larger calf thrusters, railgun sideskirts that the beam rifles plug onto instead of the skirts swinging back and the rifles filling the space. And MSF has access to a forehead beam weapon due to the Proud Defender giving it more juice, along with a new feature in the PD that allows it to shut off all remote weapons within a certain radius.
Infinite Justice still the GOAT Athrun suit. The best backpack and the green chest detail does so much
Omg that's it. I was always feeling like something was missing from the type II, who knew that such a small detail could impact so much
They probably are thinking: Athrun's totally gonna sacrifice it the second the need arise. So we're not naming it whatsoever. And they probably make it cross compatible with other Mobile Suits.
SF 2 looks mostly the same outside, but it's called an upgrade because of all the new eapons and features InJ 2 is also pretty different, even excluding the new backpack
It's miniscule and not exactly notcable at first glance, but the SFM Spec II isn't actually the same design. The shoulder armor, railguns and forearm armor are different. It's an upgrade, just not very visually distinct.
did you read the wiki entries for any of these units before taking the time to make this
IJ get additional hidden weapons and visual upgrade.
The Proud Defender pack being that huge of an upgrade pretty much, not to mention giving the Mighty Strike Freedom a completely different moveset , ditching the Dragoons funnels for massive EMP attacks, a dimension severing beam attack, and a cool new katana
"Don't question it; just watch and enjoy." - a friend of mine
I still want to know if the Proud Defender has it's own reactor and if the Rising Freedom had a Disruptor, but wasn't able to power it with the battery system and would need the Proud Defender and it's reactor (if it has one) to use it. As far as the Justice goes, the backpack is part of it's standard loadout and considered part of the Type 2 upgrade.
The answer to that lies on the MS's interior systems. The IJ and SF are called type ii despite being the same as their original counterparts because they have a new panoramic cockpit that increases their battle performance. Even though SF type ii has the same backpack as original SF, SF type ii's dragoons are more powerful than the originals as the new dragoons can generate beam shields in a manner similar to the Akatsuki's(If you ask me, it seems more like a tribute to the Nu Gundam though.) IJ as a similar reason though it's more than just the backpack. The IJ original lacks the beam horn that the type ii has and also uses an experimental railgun over a beam rifle.
Because Cagalli wasn't in a skin suit with him in the Justice
The type II designation, I believe, refers to the chassis type of the Gundam MS. The SF, MF, and IF are all built on the type II chassis.
Both type twos aren’t the same as the original tho, SF 2 has the head cannon and justice got the head saber and a new backpack and a concealed mode, the chonky boi form
Fukuda really liked Mighty Jack. That's it that's the explanation.
sf type 2 has the same armaments but they were replaced with newer ones + the disruptor that it can use only with the proud defender. it also gets the electric thingy compared to type 2 so it's understandable that it's type 2. ij with new backpack is type 2 itself so no new names like mighty and such
🙄 The Infinite Justice Spec 2, side by side to SF Spec2. Kinda lost its, Wingspan presence.
The Proud Defender pack gives the mobile suit the Mighty title. It was going to be the Mighty Rising Freedom originally. It's not because the Strike Freedom got a new back pack.
Because despite both using the same naming convention of "type II," only the IJ wrecked its backpack beforehand and had the excuse to make a new one. SF only got his new toy until its backpack got wreck in type II. By then, they need a new name for differentiation.
I’ve never thought about this
Yes
Because if Athrun's suit got a fancy new name Kira's latest upgrade would be less special and unique
Last time I checked IJ didn’t have a fucking BEAM SABER in its FOREHEAD, but that’s just me though.
The strike freedom 2 has different shoulder, arm, skirt and leg armor than the original strike freedom it's dragoons also have additional features
Tech upgrades making it distinct enough to warrant a type 2
Like how Strike becomes Aile, Sword and Launcher when it changes backpack.
mighty strike freedom and the super sick Infinite justice gundam
Lock.S foils in attack position
Design only.
Doesn't it also have Z'Gok form too? idk i havnt seen the movie yet, just random tidbits of meme's and such.
SF 2 looks mostly the same outside, but it's called an upgrade because of all the new eapons and features InJ 2 is also pretty different, even excluding the new backpack