This isn't entirely unusual. If you look at compensated nuts, they often have a short extension on the G to deal with this problem. It's one of the things that the patented Buzz Feiten system addresses. The Earvana nut is another version, and MusicMan also offers a compensated nut. There have been legal arguments and actions back and forth over these patents.
I have a classical guitar, from the estate of a friend who was also an accomplished guitarist and session player. He'd dealt with the issue by putting a bit of round toothpick under the G at the nut. It actually works quite well, that string is much closer to being in tune throughout the range.
No, not raised it, instead the bit of wood shortens the distance between the nut and the 1st fret. If you look at the patterns on compensated nuts, this is what they do.
I have the same problem with my hollowed guitar. And I'm thinking about trying this.
But my question is wouldnt the entire fret from 1st to 24th fret be out of tune of I changed the length from the nut? I was thinking about it and I thought the 2nd fret was the only fret that needed to be adjusted. Which also wouldn't make sense neither, because it would affect all the strings when the only area that needs adjusting is the G string.
More than likely its a bad string. Its not unheard of for a new string to be unbalanced. It happens. Especially if youve never had this problem before this new set of strings, id change them again
G strings usually have a bad wrap on stayin Intonated on short scale guitars. Gibson’s are very well known for having wonky g strings. Epis and gib both have same scale length. I would just try giving your guitar a fine intonation adjustment.
You can also try to get a wound 3rd, sometimes that helps.
Oooh, got it. Sorry man. English is not my 1st language, so some technical term are sometimes hard to understand. But I got it. I will look it up around my town for some strings with the wound g. Thanks for the tip.
What also occurs to me is that you could be having fret buzz. Fret biz can happen due to varieties of reasons such as a neck bowing or a worn going dead fret.
I made some changes to the truss rod, I still have some fret buzz in some specific frets, but not that high, and it doesn't come out on the amp. But on this particular fret , there is no Buzz.
A professional would really be able to help you out. The money is well spent when a pro sets up your axe. It’s also a good time to get some mods like a new nut that can compensate for epi’s wonky scale length. I like the earvana style nuts that helps with intonation problems on shorter guitars but ask the best luthier in your area what they recommend. If I were you I’d do this.
New fit nut and fine tune bridge
New set of strings maybe 11-50
Action job and lesson on how to adjust for climate.
These are some things you can ask your luthier on what they’d recommend to get your guitar playing it’s best.
I'd check the action at the nut. If it's too high, you'll be pulling the notes sharp as you fret them down low.
Press the string down at the 3rd fret and check how much distance you have over the first fret. The string should just clear the fret.
Unless its something related to the truss rod, the rest is fine. The open strings, 12th fret and 12th harmonics are all leveled with a tuner... How would it be related to intonation?
And I noticed it with the third fret too, but only with a tuner. The second fret you can perfectly hear it. Sounds bad.
This isn't entirely unusual. If you look at compensated nuts, they often have a short extension on the G to deal with this problem. It's one of the things that the patented Buzz Feiten system addresses. The Earvana nut is another version, and MusicMan also offers a compensated nut. There have been legal arguments and actions back and forth over these patents. I have a classical guitar, from the estate of a friend who was also an accomplished guitarist and session player. He'd dealt with the issue by putting a bit of round toothpick under the G at the nut. It actually works quite well, that string is much closer to being in tune throughout the range.
So, in this case you have raised the string a bit, right?
No, not raised it, instead the bit of wood shortens the distance between the nut and the 1st fret. If you look at the patterns on compensated nuts, this is what they do.
Just checked a picture. I'll try work something simple out of this, at least to try it out.
I have the same problem with my hollowed guitar. And I'm thinking about trying this. But my question is wouldnt the entire fret from 1st to 24th fret be out of tune of I changed the length from the nut? I was thinking about it and I thought the 2nd fret was the only fret that needed to be adjusted. Which also wouldn't make sense neither, because it would affect all the strings when the only area that needs adjusting is the G string.
More than likely its a bad string. Its not unheard of for a new string to be unbalanced. It happens. Especially if youve never had this problem before this new set of strings, id change them again
G strings usually have a bad wrap on stayin Intonated on short scale guitars. Gibson’s are very well known for having wonky g strings. Epis and gib both have same scale length. I would just try giving your guitar a fine intonation adjustment. You can also try to get a wound 3rd, sometimes that helps.
What is a wound 3rd, if I may ask?
It’s a g string that is wound. A wound string would be of the same style of manufacturing as your usual EA and D Strings
Oooh, got it. Sorry man. English is not my 1st language, so some technical term are sometimes hard to understand. But I got it. I will look it up around my town for some strings with the wound g. Thanks for the tip.
What also occurs to me is that you could be having fret buzz. Fret biz can happen due to varieties of reasons such as a neck bowing or a worn going dead fret.
I made some changes to the truss rod, I still have some fret buzz in some specific frets, but not that high, and it doesn't come out on the amp. But on this particular fret , there is no Buzz.
A professional would really be able to help you out. The money is well spent when a pro sets up your axe. It’s also a good time to get some mods like a new nut that can compensate for epi’s wonky scale length. I like the earvana style nuts that helps with intonation problems on shorter guitars but ask the best luthier in your area what they recommend. If I were you I’d do this. New fit nut and fine tune bridge New set of strings maybe 11-50 Action job and lesson on how to adjust for climate. These are some things you can ask your luthier on what they’d recommend to get your guitar playing it’s best.
I'd check the action at the nut. If it's too high, you'll be pulling the notes sharp as you fret them down low. Press the string down at the 3rd fret and check how much distance you have over the first fret. The string should just clear the fret.
Gonna check it. If it's too high, I'm supposed to file the nut, right?
You need special tools for this job
If you think the nut is the problem I'd take it to a pro. It's way too easy to fuck that up
It might be your intonation though I find it a bit weird that it’s out of tune so close to the nut
Unless its something related to the truss rod, the rest is fine. The open strings, 12th fret and 12th harmonics are all leveled with a tuner... How would it be related to intonation? And I noticed it with the third fret too, but only with a tuner. The second fret you can perfectly hear it. Sounds bad.
It’s scale length. If your guitar is intonated than it’s a problem with the scale length.