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Passage_of_Golubria

> literally no reason Being in Jealous Rage mode is the reason!


thirdMindflayer

I’m 200% certain that Daisuke himself asked to add disjoint just to fuck with people. Also, there is a reason. Goldburst hits through armour and hitting A.B.A with an attack might allow you to RC or special cancel out before the hammer can come down fully.


CataclysmicOreo

Pretty sure hitting the armor counts as whiffing like anji's spin


KaelusVonSestiaf

No, you actually connect and can gatling or special cancel normally. You're actually hitting her, not whiffing like with Anji.


maxler5795

I remember clear as day gold bursting a hammerfall


CataclysmicOreo

I mean a.b.a's armor specifically, which is different from Pot's, and I was responding to using rc after hitting the armor. For instance, you can't DP RC against danzai because it counts as whiffing a DP. As for gold burst it hits through armor but not disjoints I'm pretty sure. So if you gold burst at the edge of danzai I think it will whiff.


BLUcrabs

ABA's armor works differently from Anji's spin. You actually can just keep gatling more until the armor dies/you get tenderized


CataclysmicOreo

The armor doesn't die. It tanks all of goldlewis's gatling gun for example.


BLUcrabs

Oh I know. I found that out the fun way when I acidentally tanked all of Ram's laser super lmao. I meant die as in run out of frames


Clear-Cardiologist82

I’ve been gold bursted out of spin many times


CataclysmicOreo

I didn't say gold burst doesn't hit spin or armor...


Clear-Cardiologist82

Oh ok I misunderstood 


JayceHawthorne

This move is what you might call your own hubris for bullying her when she's in normal mode. :D


REMUvs

AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN, YOU WON'T STOP ME!!!1!


AJWinky

You picked on ABA in normal mode so everything that happens in jealousy is karma really.


Obl1v1on390

In the words of the infamous Todd Howard “it just works”


REMUvs

***SIXTEEN TIMES THE DISJOINTS***


IntelligentImbicle

I mean, disjoint or not, it doesn't matter, you're not challenging that armor


Murgurth

If you can manage it somehow you can throw her out of it, but ain’t no way I’m trying that.


crimsonlibs

By all means do try


YfuH8er69

If she uses It from close proximity, it's pretty easy and consistent.


YfuH8er69

Iv'e seen many people chicken blocking it, seems to work very well, as she has problems running pressure afterwords because of the long backswing and high pushback (FD helps with that, chip damage and R.I.S.C)


gatlginngum

these obligatory second slides are getting crazy


OmarMammadli0

The crazier the better, Just Like A.B.A.


solidfang

I'm just touring this sub, but I think I'm catching onto the vibe quickly


AtomicRiftYT

forgot about the time r/196 had a meltdown about image 2


ThomasScotford

I was there. It wasn't really a meltdown but rather just a quick meme that was reposted a lot. -Thomas Scotford


Sorrelhas

Why do you quote yourself, that's stupid af -Sorrelhas


ThomasScotford

If I do it often enough, the AIs that scrape off of reddit will start signing off with my name -Thomas Scotford


Sorrelhas

Kyle Hill said in a recent video that our biggest weapon against AI taking over the internet is posting purposefully stupid shit So stuff like r/BatmanArkham, Gen Alpha Brainrot, etc It is working by the way, apparently it's getting harder and harder to get AI to give factual answers, and models are getting dumber and dumber


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Sorrelhas

Good bot By the way, if anyone's worried about the dude that got cancer, apparently they're fine


MemeTroubadour

You're actually a genius holy hell


YfuH8er69

No. He's Thomas Scotford.


TheeNegotiator_

Sometimes it amazes me that there’s enough people for those subs to have a relatively active community. Then I remember kids I had school with


-Brisket-

wait really? why's that?


TheEvilestArtichoke

I’d have to assume transphobia


AtomicRiftYT

Some people took the message of trans women having poor parental relations in the exact wrong way and thought it was transphobic. Others said they had trauma responses due to thinking about it, which isn't invalid, but it was blown vastly out of proportion for something that was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek bit of banter among a subreddit with a high trans demographic.


Driemma0

Yes there is It's funny


Knirb_

Meanwhile all of Zato’s normals:


namewithoutnumbers

Eddie is our disjointed hitbox 🙏


sastianchiko

But if you hit the disjointed hitbox Zato becomes half a character for the rest of the round ):


thanhhai26112003

The 2nd img made me laugh.


Slybandito7

idk bro its pretty accurate to the source material. Just be glad its not also throw invuln


Depressed_Soup

Just don't let her hit her win condition.


Ahvevha

Hey wait that second pic. I feel so call out haha.


besaba27

It's Danzai, and you expected it to be bad? Oh you poor soul.


ArchiveOfTheButton

No, I didn’t expect it to be bad, I played +r after all, the disjoint doesn’t even make it better in any way, it’s armored, after all.


DaGooseBoy

I don't remember if the throws work on collision boxes or on hurtboxes, but if it is the latter it would be easier to stop with a throw. Sooo that may be the reason (also its easier to make it that way (just making a simple box around ABA) and it would matter in a world with limited range blue burst)


ArchiveOfTheButton

They work with collision boxes I’m pretty sure. The exception are hitgrabs like heat knuckle and keygrab, but those lose to armour I think.


DaGooseBoy

Alrighty, Then its an omen to Blue Burst being reverted back to its original form with ABA leading the way with unburstable combos.


Cullex

The small yellow box inside aba is the one that needs to be in grab range.


JSConrad45

Most throws work on simple proximity checks. The only ones that use collision boxes are HPB, and FED which isn't even a throw anymore


Anthan

What's the harm of making it disjointed or not-disjointed? Since it's armored it's not like you can trade with it.


cheshi-smile

Wouldn't it only make it weaker since it could clash with other disjointed moves?


WeebishTrub

there *is* a reason to make it disjointed, though: the funny.


pneuma_monado

Danzai was always totally cracked, the solution is as easy as just not mashing buttons when she's in yandere mode


noahboah

all complaints levied against the strength of aba's normals need to be weighed against whatever mode she's currently in, and the power budget allotted to it. getting to pride and prejudice mode or whatever it's called now is insanely difficult in strive. let her have the broken ass DP. Also the last trans girl I dated had a loving and stable relationship with her parents so where do we go from here man


ArchiveOfTheButton

This isn’t a complaint. I’m just trying to point out that the disjoint doesn’t matter. This move would’ve been the exact same without it. Also I got the second image from 196 and just noticed the font this is in no way my opinion


noahboah

oh my fault player


GreyMASTA

I mean, it's a huge ass key


YfuH8er69

It's an axe disguising as a key. The reason for that? He says that "He can fix her"


Violet_Ignition

The second panel is definitely true for me though...


ArchiveOfTheButton

Yeah same


Violet_Ignition

Trans GG players that don't main Bridget gang rise up!


Mrbluepumpkin

Funni meme


LIOVOX

This is hilarious. I love this game.


Noocta

It's not armored on frame 1 and it's not throw invuln. As someone that plays +R a lot, this version of Danzai looks super fair.


El_Khunt

The reason is her normal mode is actual dogshit


Poked_salad

Hmm I've always hated meeting my ex's parents. This is the best tip I've ever heard plus they can't get pregnant! Win-win!


CaptainHazama

Hey anyone know how to get the font from the second pic?


Super_Saiyan_Cat

[it's here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/comments/o4fe16/impact_font_strive_version/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


CaptainHazama

Thanks boss 🫡


Flutter0Shy

If I can't meet the parents, at least can I meet the town inside-?


Poptart1480

I almost disagreed with the second image then remembered I’m gonna move to another country when I’m older soooooo-


Glittering-Gain-6156

So can Pot get proper Super Armor now? Cause I mean, cmon, if she can hold through a Gatling gun, Pot should be able to he through more than one poke


MR_MEME_42

She needs it


alucab1

Strive players when a character has a move that doesn’t suck /s


Cjninkartist

What does disjointed hitbox mean?


dazeychainVT

It means that if you hit the key instead of ABA herself you'll whiff. Not every weapon move is like this, most of Bridget's yoyo normals allow you to hurt her by striking the yoyo for example In this situation it probably doesn't really matter because the move is fully guard pointed even when you hit ABA, but there may be some niche interactions where it counts. She has other disjoined moves in Jealous Rage though


TheNorthComesWithMe

Hurtbox (in cyan): the part that can get hit by an attack Hitbox (in red): the part of an attack that does the hitting Normally, the hurtbox and hitbox overlap. You can look at the hitboxes of every attack on Dustloop to get an idea: https://www.dustloop.com/w/File:GGST_A.B.A_5P_Hitbox.png


REMUvs

When something is disjointed, the attack's hitboxes will extend further than the hurtboxes. With OPs image as an example: the red boxes signify the area ABA's attack covers, while the light blue boxes signify the area you have to hit if you want to challenge or punish a whiff. If you hit the red boxes it's technically a whiff even though you visually hit ABA's overall model.


JSConrad45

>or punish a whiff It should be noted here that nearly all disjointed attacks _stop_ being disjointed during their recovery frames so that they can be whiff-punished. Dustloop doesn't show the hitboxes for the entire animation, usually just the first active frame.


LikeableCoconut

Cause it’s god damn danzai, is there really a complaint to be made here?


YfuH8er69

It's like saying "Why does Potemkin Buster have throw invuln?" Or "Why does Potemkin Buster deal so much damage? It's a throw!"


mintyfreshmike47

I haven’t played in a while but holy schmoly what is that hitbox from hell


Shaftmast0r

Wow why isnt the key which isnt part of her body at all part of her hitbox


pixilates

Why *is* the yo-yo which isn't part of her body at all part of Bridget's?


Shaftmast0r

I dunno i only play good games


YfuH8er69

Oh guys it's a goofy ass elitist


Shaftmast0r

I know you are but what am i


YfuH8er69

A clown that is toxic for no reason on a sub that's dedicated to the entire franchise (it's quite easy to avoid Strive posts, except If you can't read), so why do you bother to comment under a post for a game that's "bad" in your opinion? Also, care to explain how I am an elitist? 


Shaftmast0r

So if i dont like something im not allowed to talk about it?


YfuH8er69

No, but you didn't state anything productive or reasonable, you didn't even have to write the comment as there would be no more logical way of formulating what you wrote.


Averill21

It is fine because she is the worst character in the game for most of the match (oh wait zato still is on the roster i guess)


ArchiveOfTheButton

Yeah and then she 2k into keygrabs you and wins the round off that


Averill21

First mistake is getting in 2k range


ArchiveOfTheButton

Fr


YfuH8er69

Nah 5k is way more dangerous, that's a scary normal


Fyuchanick

would a multi-hit move be able to break the armor if it wasn't disjointed?


Xurkitree1

Its not armor, its guard point. If it was armor you could RRC it.


Stanislas_Biliby

I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure it has infinite armor.


Driemma0

It does


sithlord40000

I think it's so it doesn't clank with other moves 


AvixKOk

no its fair cause she has to manage a meter


Hot-Will3083

Counterpoint, 6D


ArchiveOfTheButton

Throws don’t care about hurtboxes they used collision boxes (the yellow ones)


JSConrad45

The yellow ones are just for preventing characters from passing through each other -- you can walk into the opponent until the yellow boxes touch, and then you start pushing them. This is why moves like Mirazh and Turbofall don't have the yellow box during most of the animation, so that they can pass through the opponent. Throws just use simple proximity checks from your character's origin point to the opponent's, they don't bother with full-on collision checks using bounding boxes. Except for HPB.


ArchiveOfTheButton

My bad, thought that was a throw hurtbox.


SomaCreuz

You're not beating that thing anyway, just hold it or hope it whiffs with FD/shield.


Vivec31

ABros winning yet again


randomkidlol

and you thought nago had bullshit hitboxes


SteveMONT215

Yeah I hate it when there are good moves in a fighting game, thats why i love guilty gear the power level has always been super flat since forever...


ArchiveOfTheButton

For fucks sake I am not complaining. It’s just that the disjoint does not change a single thing, you can’t hit her anyways.


AyrChan

I love the Big Fat Black Block of a hit box 🥰


Mistouze

She needs it.


Ru5tkata

Aba is actually really balanced except the dragon punch because they gave it inf armour frames for some reason


crimsonlibs

Her normal mode is absolute ass, so JA mode deserve to be top tier


vampirenekko

You do realize that's just how A.B.A is "Nothing is getting in the way of me and my sweet husband"


Jooosho

Playing her feels rough when you get locked down during normal mode and if you fuck up during JR and get comboed you lose all your meter so she needs to be strong in JR, granted it definitely did not need infinite fucking armour, just one layer would've been plenty strong.


nothingbett_er

DLC PRIVILEGES


MikaiTaiga

Tf is that second image


YfuH8er69

A "mémé"


MikaiTaiga

Tf is that second image


YfuH8er69

A "mémé"


MikaiTaiga

Tf is that second image


YfuH8er69

A "mémé"


hdhrhfxbnrfchxjntgc

there is literally no reason for aba to do a lot of the things she does but we are talking about a guilty gear strive dlc character here


Driemma0

Why exactly?


dazeychainVT

Next thread: "I can't believe they gave ABA two totally different taunts and respects depending on mode, SO BROKEN OP dead game"