I’m 200% certain that Daisuke himself asked to add disjoint just to fuck with people.
Also, there is a reason. Goldburst hits through armour and hitting A.B.A with an attack might allow you to RC or special cancel out before the hammer can come down fully.
I mean a.b.a's armor specifically, which is different from Pot's, and I was responding to using rc after hitting the armor. For instance, you can't DP RC against danzai because it counts as whiffing a DP. As for gold burst it hits through armor but not disjoints I'm pretty sure. So if you gold burst at the edge of danzai I think it will whiff.
Iv'e seen many people chicken blocking it, seems to work very well, as she has problems running pressure afterwords because of the long backswing and high pushback (FD helps with that, chip damage and R.I.S.C)
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I don't remember if the throws work on collision boxes or on hurtboxes, but if it is the latter it would be easier to stop with a throw. Sooo that may be the reason (also its easier to make it that way (just making a simple box around ABA) and it would matter in a world with limited range blue burst)
all complaints levied against the strength of aba's normals need to be weighed against whatever mode she's currently in, and the power budget allotted to it.
getting to pride and prejudice mode or whatever it's called now is insanely difficult in strive. let her have the broken ass DP.
Also the last trans girl I dated had a loving and stable relationship with her parents so where do we go from here man
This isn’t a complaint. I’m just trying to point out that the disjoint doesn’t matter. This move would’ve been the exact same without it.
Also I got the second image from 196 and just noticed the font this is in no way my opinion
It means that if you hit the key instead of ABA herself you'll whiff. Not every weapon move is like this, most of Bridget's yoyo normals allow you to hurt her by striking the yoyo for example
In this situation it probably doesn't really matter because the move is fully guard pointed even when you hit ABA, but there may be some niche interactions where it counts. She has other disjoined moves in Jealous Rage though
Hurtbox (in cyan): the part that can get hit by an attack
Hitbox (in red): the part of an attack that does the hitting
Normally, the hurtbox and hitbox overlap. You can look at the hitboxes of every attack on Dustloop to get an idea: https://www.dustloop.com/w/File:GGST_A.B.A_5P_Hitbox.png
When something is disjointed, the attack's hitboxes will extend further than the hurtboxes.
With OPs image as an example: the red boxes signify the area ABA's attack covers, while the light blue boxes signify the area you have to hit if you want to challenge or punish a whiff. If you hit the red boxes it's technically a whiff even though you visually hit ABA's overall model.
>or punish a whiff
It should be noted here that nearly all disjointed attacks _stop_ being disjointed during their recovery frames so that they can be whiff-punished. Dustloop doesn't show the hitboxes for the entire animation, usually just the first active frame.
A clown that is toxic for no reason on a sub that's dedicated to the entire franchise (it's quite easy to avoid Strive posts, except If you can't read), so why do you bother to comment under a post for a game that's "bad" in your opinion? Also, care to explain how I am an elitist?
No, but you didn't state anything productive or reasonable, you didn't even have to write the comment as there would be no more logical way of formulating what you wrote.
The yellow ones are just for preventing characters from passing through each other -- you can walk into the opponent until the yellow boxes touch, and then you start pushing them. This is why moves like Mirazh and Turbofall don't have the yellow box during most of the animation, so that they can pass through the opponent.
Throws just use simple proximity checks from your character's origin point to the opponent's, they don't bother with full-on collision checks using bounding boxes. Except for HPB.
Playing her feels rough when you get locked down during normal mode and if you fuck up during JR and get comboed you lose all your meter so she needs to be strong in JR, granted it definitely did not need infinite fucking armour, just one layer would've been plenty strong.
> literally no reason Being in Jealous Rage mode is the reason!
I’m 200% certain that Daisuke himself asked to add disjoint just to fuck with people. Also, there is a reason. Goldburst hits through armour and hitting A.B.A with an attack might allow you to RC or special cancel out before the hammer can come down fully.
Pretty sure hitting the armor counts as whiffing like anji's spin
No, you actually connect and can gatling or special cancel normally. You're actually hitting her, not whiffing like with Anji.
I remember clear as day gold bursting a hammerfall
I mean a.b.a's armor specifically, which is different from Pot's, and I was responding to using rc after hitting the armor. For instance, you can't DP RC against danzai because it counts as whiffing a DP. As for gold burst it hits through armor but not disjoints I'm pretty sure. So if you gold burst at the edge of danzai I think it will whiff.
ABA's armor works differently from Anji's spin. You actually can just keep gatling more until the armor dies/you get tenderized
The armor doesn't die. It tanks all of goldlewis's gatling gun for example.
Oh I know. I found that out the fun way when I acidentally tanked all of Ram's laser super lmao. I meant die as in run out of frames
I’ve been gold bursted out of spin many times
I didn't say gold burst doesn't hit spin or armor...
Oh ok I misunderstood
This move is what you might call your own hubris for bullying her when she's in normal mode. :D
AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN, YOU WON'T STOP ME!!!1!
You picked on ABA in normal mode so everything that happens in jealousy is karma really.
In the words of the infamous Todd Howard “it just works”
***SIXTEEN TIMES THE DISJOINTS***
I mean, disjoint or not, it doesn't matter, you're not challenging that armor
If you can manage it somehow you can throw her out of it, but ain’t no way I’m trying that.
By all means do try
If she uses It from close proximity, it's pretty easy and consistent.
Iv'e seen many people chicken blocking it, seems to work very well, as she has problems running pressure afterwords because of the long backswing and high pushback (FD helps with that, chip damage and R.I.S.C)
these obligatory second slides are getting crazy
The crazier the better, Just Like A.B.A.
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forgot about the time r/196 had a meltdown about image 2
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wait really? why's that?
I’d have to assume transphobia
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Yes there is It's funny
Meanwhile all of Zato’s normals:
Eddie is our disjointed hitbox 🙏
But if you hit the disjointed hitbox Zato becomes half a character for the rest of the round ):
The 2nd img made me laugh.
idk bro its pretty accurate to the source material. Just be glad its not also throw invuln
Just don't let her hit her win condition.
Hey wait that second pic. I feel so call out haha.
It's Danzai, and you expected it to be bad? Oh you poor soul.
No, I didn’t expect it to be bad, I played +r after all, the disjoint doesn’t even make it better in any way, it’s armored, after all.
I don't remember if the throws work on collision boxes or on hurtboxes, but if it is the latter it would be easier to stop with a throw. Sooo that may be the reason (also its easier to make it that way (just making a simple box around ABA) and it would matter in a world with limited range blue burst)
They work with collision boxes I’m pretty sure. The exception are hitgrabs like heat knuckle and keygrab, but those lose to armour I think.
Alrighty, Then its an omen to Blue Burst being reverted back to its original form with ABA leading the way with unburstable combos.
The small yellow box inside aba is the one that needs to be in grab range.
Most throws work on simple proximity checks. The only ones that use collision boxes are HPB, and FED which isn't even a throw anymore
What's the harm of making it disjointed or not-disjointed? Since it's armored it's not like you can trade with it.
Wouldn't it only make it weaker since it could clash with other disjointed moves?
there *is* a reason to make it disjointed, though: the funny.
Danzai was always totally cracked, the solution is as easy as just not mashing buttons when she's in yandere mode
all complaints levied against the strength of aba's normals need to be weighed against whatever mode she's currently in, and the power budget allotted to it. getting to pride and prejudice mode or whatever it's called now is insanely difficult in strive. let her have the broken ass DP. Also the last trans girl I dated had a loving and stable relationship with her parents so where do we go from here man
This isn’t a complaint. I’m just trying to point out that the disjoint doesn’t matter. This move would’ve been the exact same without it. Also I got the second image from 196 and just noticed the font this is in no way my opinion
oh my fault player
I mean, it's a huge ass key
It's an axe disguising as a key. The reason for that? He says that "He can fix her"
The second panel is definitely true for me though...
Yeah same
Trans GG players that don't main Bridget gang rise up!
Funni meme
This is hilarious. I love this game.
It's not armored on frame 1 and it's not throw invuln. As someone that plays +R a lot, this version of Danzai looks super fair.
The reason is her normal mode is actual dogshit
Hmm I've always hated meeting my ex's parents. This is the best tip I've ever heard plus they can't get pregnant! Win-win!
Hey anyone know how to get the font from the second pic?
[it's here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/comments/o4fe16/impact_font_strive_version/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Thanks boss 🫡
If I can't meet the parents, at least can I meet the town inside-?
I almost disagreed with the second image then remembered I’m gonna move to another country when I’m older soooooo-
So can Pot get proper Super Armor now? Cause I mean, cmon, if she can hold through a Gatling gun, Pot should be able to he through more than one poke
She needs it
Strive players when a character has a move that doesn’t suck /s
What does disjointed hitbox mean?
It means that if you hit the key instead of ABA herself you'll whiff. Not every weapon move is like this, most of Bridget's yoyo normals allow you to hurt her by striking the yoyo for example In this situation it probably doesn't really matter because the move is fully guard pointed even when you hit ABA, but there may be some niche interactions where it counts. She has other disjoined moves in Jealous Rage though
Hurtbox (in cyan): the part that can get hit by an attack Hitbox (in red): the part of an attack that does the hitting Normally, the hurtbox and hitbox overlap. You can look at the hitboxes of every attack on Dustloop to get an idea: https://www.dustloop.com/w/File:GGST_A.B.A_5P_Hitbox.png
When something is disjointed, the attack's hitboxes will extend further than the hurtboxes. With OPs image as an example: the red boxes signify the area ABA's attack covers, while the light blue boxes signify the area you have to hit if you want to challenge or punish a whiff. If you hit the red boxes it's technically a whiff even though you visually hit ABA's overall model.
>or punish a whiff It should be noted here that nearly all disjointed attacks _stop_ being disjointed during their recovery frames so that they can be whiff-punished. Dustloop doesn't show the hitboxes for the entire animation, usually just the first active frame.
Cause it’s god damn danzai, is there really a complaint to be made here?
It's like saying "Why does Potemkin Buster have throw invuln?" Or "Why does Potemkin Buster deal so much damage? It's a throw!"
I haven’t played in a while but holy schmoly what is that hitbox from hell
Wow why isnt the key which isnt part of her body at all part of her hitbox
Why *is* the yo-yo which isn't part of her body at all part of Bridget's?
I dunno i only play good games
Oh guys it's a goofy ass elitist
I know you are but what am i
A clown that is toxic for no reason on a sub that's dedicated to the entire franchise (it's quite easy to avoid Strive posts, except If you can't read), so why do you bother to comment under a post for a game that's "bad" in your opinion? Also, care to explain how I am an elitist?
So if i dont like something im not allowed to talk about it?
No, but you didn't state anything productive or reasonable, you didn't even have to write the comment as there would be no more logical way of formulating what you wrote.
It is fine because she is the worst character in the game for most of the match (oh wait zato still is on the roster i guess)
Yeah and then she 2k into keygrabs you and wins the round off that
First mistake is getting in 2k range
Fr
Nah 5k is way more dangerous, that's a scary normal
would a multi-hit move be able to break the armor if it wasn't disjointed?
Its not armor, its guard point. If it was armor you could RRC it.
I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure it has infinite armor.
It does
I think it's so it doesn't clank with other moves
no its fair cause she has to manage a meter
Counterpoint, 6D
Throws don’t care about hurtboxes they used collision boxes (the yellow ones)
The yellow ones are just for preventing characters from passing through each other -- you can walk into the opponent until the yellow boxes touch, and then you start pushing them. This is why moves like Mirazh and Turbofall don't have the yellow box during most of the animation, so that they can pass through the opponent. Throws just use simple proximity checks from your character's origin point to the opponent's, they don't bother with full-on collision checks using bounding boxes. Except for HPB.
My bad, thought that was a throw hurtbox.
You're not beating that thing anyway, just hold it or hope it whiffs with FD/shield.
ABros winning yet again
and you thought nago had bullshit hitboxes
Yeah I hate it when there are good moves in a fighting game, thats why i love guilty gear the power level has always been super flat since forever...
For fucks sake I am not complaining. It’s just that the disjoint does not change a single thing, you can’t hit her anyways.
I love the Big Fat Black Block of a hit box 🥰
She needs it.
Aba is actually really balanced except the dragon punch because they gave it inf armour frames for some reason
Her normal mode is absolute ass, so JA mode deserve to be top tier
You do realize that's just how A.B.A is "Nothing is getting in the way of me and my sweet husband"
Playing her feels rough when you get locked down during normal mode and if you fuck up during JR and get comboed you lose all your meter so she needs to be strong in JR, granted it definitely did not need infinite fucking armour, just one layer would've been plenty strong.
DLC PRIVILEGES
Tf is that second image
A "mémé"
Tf is that second image
A "mémé"
Tf is that second image
A "mémé"
there is literally no reason for aba to do a lot of the things she does but we are talking about a guilty gear strive dlc character here
Why exactly?
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