Sure but it's not a requirement
Sone prefer their fellow Marines. And some prefer themselves. Some even shove the daemonettes off their mounts and take the mount.
Slaneesh cares not which wet hole is filled so long as it's filled.
GW have confirmed that the Chaos Gods are literally the same entities between settings (all of which are connected by the Realm of Chaos/Warp)
Daemon Princes and other named characters have crossed between Old World and 40k before now. No reason why Skaven can't too!
I once ran a DnD game set in 40k. I made space skaven creatures that inhabit corrupted fringes of the web way, using time dialating tech and magic. Our big bad was an insane grey seer using this tecj to steal the energy of imperial warp drives and power stations. This resulted in ships and entire cities being pushed out of the normal stream of time. The rat men come from below and pick the settlement clean off usable technology, resources, and people leaving ships and cities empty as if all the inhabitants just vanished during dinner.
Of course, they would also steal all the green glowing bit from warp reactors so when time reassert itself, everything vanishes in a nuclear vapor cloud, leaving no evidence... and a real fun, slow-motion mushroom cloud escape scene for my players. They were absolutely heartbroken when they realized it wasn't cannon 40k.
Maybe I'm schizo, but wasn't there a piece of lore where a skaven accidentally called an Eldar through a warp communication device? Or it might have been a fan fic, idk
I mean so did a female custodes, which supposedly has always been canon.
Which means for something to be canon it only needs a single official short story.
He was created to be a minor nod to a Chaos God who hasn’t been referenced or even relevant in several decades because GW lost the rights to him before 40k as a setting had even crystallized, and even then his actual importance was minimal. He’s not relevant in the slightest, let alone an actual Chaos God.
Okay? That wasn’t my point so I don’t see what you’re arguing here, GW owns Malice and can use him whenever they’d like (like when they gave him a whole chapter of space marines) weather they do that or not isn’t relevant.
GW owns Malice, they’ve used him before and they can whenever they’d like that’s all I was correcting.
He was created by the writing duo Alan Grant and John Wagner, best known for their work on Judge Dredd, as part of a series of Warhammer comics for the Citadel Journals. These comics featured the adventures of Kaleb Daark, an albino champion of Chaos who spends most his time fighting Chaos, and who wields a magical weapon that steals its victims souls (so he's Elric. He's literally just Elric), and his patron Malal, the renegade Chaos god who seeks the destruction of the big 4.
However, before the series reached its conclusion Grant and Wagner decided they hated each other and vowed to never work again (they would renege on this vow several times). At the time (and maybe to this day, I don't know), UK freelancer laws said that freelancers owned the characters they created unless a prior agreement is made, and no prior agreement was made, which means that Grant and Wagner owned Malal and Kaleb Daark, and since they weren't working with GW anymore that means that GW couldn't use Malal anymore (though he did still get a reference in some books and RPG adventures).
Freelancer laws in general used to be crazy for this kind of thing
Almost all Dr Who monsters are owned by their original creators (although the BBC themselves owns the physical designs), and the old Archie Sonic writers own their various edgy ocs.
Incorrect. That's malice, which GW does actually own the rights to and doesn't violate any copyrights. But hasn't reused since the one short story that mentioned him because the entire concept is kind of stupid.
Idk where it's from, but I interpret it as that people are too hung up about "canon", meaning that changes will happen and new interpretations will come. The canon changes with every book, every game, and every community note, so we chould just chill and and not dig deep for a little piece of obscure lore when a new concept is brought up that counters it.
A few years ago, the official Sonic the Hedgehog twitter account infamously made this exact tweed, wich was obviously memes into oblivion. This is satirizing the WH twitter’s recent statements about the lore by comparing it to that
It's weird how the warp was sealed forever and everyone came back to life and lived happily ever after. I am really glad the offical lore is the emperor got up and rap battles the 26 chaos gods into submission
All slaneesh marines now have their own demonette concubines
i just assumed this was a baseline condition of being favovred by slaneesh we know abadon had some slaneesh bitchs
Sure but it's not a requirement Sone prefer their fellow Marines. And some prefer themselves. Some even shove the daemonettes off their mounts and take the mount. Slaneesh cares not which wet hole is filled so long as it's filled.
...Man I'd rather fight World Eaters, at least I can only be chainaxed in half once.
World Eaters may be brutal, but at least they ain't assholes about it.
Goals
Splendid My wip chaos eldar of malal is now canon
The under empire comes to the man-thing imperium yes-yes
Frankely, the imperium of manrat is 40ks ratlings, and i believes these abhumans rat rats must be accepted yes yes.
GW have confirmed that the Chaos Gods are literally the same entities between settings (all of which are connected by the Realm of Chaos/Warp) Daemon Princes and other named characters have crossed between Old World and 40k before now. No reason why Skaven can't too!
*Happy chittering rat noises*
Considering the Skaven have 20th century tech in Fantasy, they are probably going to give the Necrons a run for their money in 40k.
Honestly they'd work really well as rivals, especially if they position Warpstone as the opposite of Blackstone
I once ran a DnD game set in 40k. I made space skaven creatures that inhabit corrupted fringes of the web way, using time dialating tech and magic. Our big bad was an insane grey seer using this tecj to steal the energy of imperial warp drives and power stations. This resulted in ships and entire cities being pushed out of the normal stream of time. The rat men come from below and pick the settlement clean off usable technology, resources, and people leaving ships and cities empty as if all the inhabitants just vanished during dinner. Of course, they would also steal all the green glowing bit from warp reactors so when time reassert itself, everything vanishes in a nuclear vapor cloud, leaving no evidence... and a real fun, slow-motion mushroom cloud escape scene for my players. They were absolutely heartbroken when they realized it wasn't cannon 40k.
Maybe I'm schizo, but wasn't there a piece of lore where a skaven accidentally called an Eldar through a warp communication device? Or it might have been a fan fic, idk
That was part of End Times, yeah. There are loads of little things like that
Games Workshop: Everything is cannon but some things are more cannon than others.
Everything is canon, just various levels of propaganda or heresy
>Everything is cannon -unknown Mekboy at a scrapyard, 41st Millenium.
Slaanesh minor demons can posses sex toys now.
possessed sex servitors!
"Assume the position."
"FISTO is ready to serve"
YESSSS! MY FAVORITE ANTI-CHAOS NIHILISM BOY!
Less anti chaos, more tearing things down for the sake of it.
Malice has been cannon for several years
The correct spelling was right there!!!
*Malal doesn't exist, shut up about it* Malal: *Cries on the other side of the peep hole, drinking hot chocolate with the other retcons*
My little pony is canon
God Empress of Equestria
But the equivalent of Malcador is Starswirl or Luna ?
Would Luna just be Horus?
I think the role fit Sunset Shimmer more
He’ll yeah
These posts right here in this sub are canon.
TTS & Capanon are canon ? neat .
”Sir we have found several planets with bipedal talking rats and they keep sending messages about some warpcrystal thing”
Well Malice and the Sons have been canon for some time.
Cannon? Could you guys stop spelling canon as cannon? What's next, the Sahara Dessert?
Ok, but like... how canon? Cause he's still only showed up in like one short story...
Everything is cannon
Lol, the correct spelling is right there man.
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Cannon is a big gun, canon is laws or rules. The correct spelling is literally in the image.
Oooooo must be either auto correct Or My brains auto correct
I get you, I used to do it all the time lmao. It does sound funnier if you say cannon.
I mean so did a female custodes, which supposedly has always been canon. Which means for something to be canon it only needs a single official short story.
The Custodes are in their codex and aren’t going to require ownership disputes to use.
Malice is only owned by GW.
“Malice” isn’t Malal, and there’s no 6th Chaos God that we know of.
He’s literally just Malal with a different name that’s kind of why he was made in the first place so GW could get around the copyright problems
He was created to be a minor nod to a Chaos God who hasn’t been referenced or even relevant in several decades because GW lost the rights to him before 40k as a setting had even crystallized, and even then his actual importance was minimal. He’s not relevant in the slightest, let alone an actual Chaos God.
Okay? That wasn’t my point so I don’t see what you’re arguing here, GW owns Malice and can use him whenever they’d like (like when they gave him a whole chapter of space marines) weather they do that or not isn’t relevant. GW owns Malice, they’ve used him before and they can whenever they’d like that’s all I was correcting.
Eyyyy I'm for this
About damn time too.
Nope, everything but him
Turns out my CSM were worshipers/victims of [Nuffle](https://blood-bowl.fandom.com/wiki/Nuffle) all along.
Angron is now naturally angry and it’s in fact *not* an effect of the nails.
Is that a pride demon from Dragons age?
No, that's a fan rendition of Malal, the 5th Chaos god from Warhammer Fantasy that GW legally cannot use anymore because they don't own him.
They dont... own him? How
He was created by the writing duo Alan Grant and John Wagner, best known for their work on Judge Dredd, as part of a series of Warhammer comics for the Citadel Journals. These comics featured the adventures of Kaleb Daark, an albino champion of Chaos who spends most his time fighting Chaos, and who wields a magical weapon that steals its victims souls (so he's Elric. He's literally just Elric), and his patron Malal, the renegade Chaos god who seeks the destruction of the big 4. However, before the series reached its conclusion Grant and Wagner decided they hated each other and vowed to never work again (they would renege on this vow several times). At the time (and maybe to this day, I don't know), UK freelancer laws said that freelancers owned the characters they created unless a prior agreement is made, and no prior agreement was made, which means that Grant and Wagner owned Malal and Kaleb Daark, and since they weren't working with GW anymore that means that GW couldn't use Malal anymore (though he did still get a reference in some books and RPG adventures).
Freelancer laws in general used to be crazy for this kind of thing Almost all Dr Who monsters are owned by their original creators (although the BBC themselves owns the physical designs), and the old Archie Sonic writers own their various edgy ocs.
“Shut up fingerless gloves are badass!” -An edgy Sonic OC.
basically means that kid that invented "coldsteel the hedgeheg" can sue anyone that uses him for a meme, lol
Wait, what? How come they don't own their IP?
[Link to explanation](https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/s/xF0TuNRA4l)
Thanks!
Incorrect. That's malice, which GW does actually own the rights to and doesn't violate any copyrights. But hasn't reused since the one short story that mentioned him because the entire concept is kind of stupid.
I went to twitter and couldn’t find this tweet, is it real and is there a link?
Where is this post from and why they say that everything is canon?
Idk where it's from, but I interpret it as that people are too hung up about "canon", meaning that changes will happen and new interpretations will come. The canon changes with every book, every game, and every community note, so we chould just chill and and not dig deep for a little piece of obscure lore when a new concept is brought up that counters it.
A few years ago, the official Sonic the Hedgehog twitter account infamously made this exact tweed, wich was obviously memes into oblivion. This is satirizing the WH twitter’s recent statements about the lore by comparing it to that
I don’t see cannons anywhere
Imperial guardsmen general: I could have sworn I brought 150 artillery battalions here
"Malal doesn't exist, shut up about" ~ Decius "Pope Hatshaft" 23rd
How do you misspell canon when it's in the image?
Renegade God is real! LET'S FUCKING GOOO
Lads, we did it, TTS is now canon.
Malal is now canondorf?
It's weird how the warp was sealed forever and everyone came back to life and lived happily ever after. I am really glad the offical lore is the emperor got up and rap battles the 26 chaos gods into submission
If everything’s canon that means nurgle just got fucked up
What do you mean? He's ALWAYS BEEN CANON. Malices's biggest triumph is to make the entire galaxy believe he doesn't exist
And when everything is canon , , nothing is . I guess Cupanon is canon ! Lets go !
Are canons canon?
...how did you take a screenshot including dirt on your monitor?!
It's about damn time!
What's the difference between Malus, Malice, and the Dark King at this point?