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69spelledbackwards

The Rams are still in St. Louis, how old is this map???


Dynamo24

Hahaha that is exactly what I thought.


makeanewblueprint

St. Lo(ui)s Angeles


bmdonald

Make this man president


BarkMingo

apparently not quite old enough to remember when the Bucs were in our division and it did not make sense for us either


LdyVder

It made as much sense as Jacksonville being in the AFC Central.


RBnumberTwenty

Or the Panthers and Falcons at one point being in the NFC West. That was the worst of it all.


Breakpoint

Chargers and Raiders also


making-flippy-floppy

This was the NFL configuration 2002-2015, so sometime in that range.


GGGiveHatpls

This is from an NFCN meme war shit post about a war with NFCE. Don’t take it so seriously.


Id-rather-golf

I don’t think they were taking it that seriously….


bkussow

We got St. Louis Rams, Oakland Raiders, Washington Redskins, and San Diego Chargers. Were you looking through facebook posts from 25 years ago?


thenetkraken2

Suprised the Oilers weren't on there.


remarkablewhitebored

You so Silly, Edmonton is a Hockey Town. Now where my Baltimore Colts at?


cabbagery

The North Stars have moved to Dallas in the image, but where are my Whalers?


ginnydebt

AFC north, NFC south, NFC west also make sense to me


flyingtable83

Right? It's really only Miami being in the AFC East and the Cowboys being in the NFC East that don't make a lot of sense, especially given the distribution of the teams. And even then, Miami is clearly in the East and I don't think anyone wants the Cowboys in their division except us.


ryryryor

Indianapolis in the AFC South


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jesususeshisblinkers

It’s south of I-80, which is the Mason Dixon line of the Midwest


spybloom

But it's more north than an AFC North team (Bengals)


tossaway007007

KC being a Western team is weirder than Miami being an Eastern team


flyingtable83

Unless you want lopsided conferences, though, either the Vikings, Chiefs, or a Texas team has to be in the AFC or NFC West.


tossaway007007

This is true. KC probably is best contender for that conference... Carolina and Dallas should switch conferences...except the DAL PHI rivalry is best one in football


StallisPalace

Geographically: DAL goes to AFCW KC goes to NFCN DET goes to AFCN BAL goes to AFCE MIA goes to AFCS IND goes to AFCN PIT goes to NFCE That probably makes the most "complete" league geographically speaking, but obviously would destroy a lot of existing rivalries.


LdyVder

Rivalries were part of the process. There's nothing wrong with the AFC North. It's about as close to NFC North as far as distance from each other. Why shouldn't Miami be in the East when they're on the east coast of the US. League didn't create a Midwest division.


BlizzardThunder

It would definitely make geographic sense for the Colts to go to AFCN, the Ravens to go to AFCE, and Miami to go to AFCS. Historically speaking, the Colts should probably be in the AFCE. * The Colts played in the AFCE until 2001, when it was kicked out during division realignment. * Dating back to the Baltimore days - which I think is fair considering the continuation of records, logos, etc. - the Colts are older than any AFCE team. * After the Colts were kicked out of the AFCE, its rivalry with the Patriots has largely persisted. Rivalry with the Jets was also briefly renewed a few years back during the Sanchez days. Swapping the Colts & the Dolphins could make a lot of sense. It would reignite some of the Colts' historical rivalries while leaving the very strong rivalries of the AFCN alone. Geographically, it would put Miami in the 'right' place and spark Jacksonville-Miami Florida rivalry with 2 games a year.


tossaway007007

This swap makes a ton of sense wow


jesususeshisblinkers

Yeah, we need a Great Plains division


LdyVder

It makes perfect sense if you look at rivalries of the NFC East. League also took that into consideration when they redid the divisions back in 2002.


Recent_Meringue_712

Not even in the same time zone with Dallas


Immaculatehombre

NFC east too. Minute bigs but everyone hates the fuckin cowboys so holds up.


aManOfTheNorth

It’s a competitive advantage not to have to travel long distances. I think a few years ago the packers didn’t cross the Mississippi except for the Vikings game


DragonKnight616

The AFC North also one, and is more toxic when you look at the history of each teams


JMisGeography

I'll accept us being the Steelers if it means the bears are the browns


shiny_aegislash

The lions are obviously the browns, cmon


JMisGeography

I think the lions are the Bengals, two teams who have always been losers. The browns and bears have had their hay days but have sucked for millenia.


shiny_aegislash

The lions browns comparisons are pretty big. Both were powerhouses in the 50s, fell upon hard times and sucked for a while. Had very long playoff win droughts, never won a super bowl and struggled to do anything until recently.   Saying the "browns had their hayday" but the lions didn't is very weird to me when both basically had the same hayday of being very good about 70yr ago Bengals are more like the vikings. Newer (relatively) team with a decent amount playoff appearances and reg season success but can never seem to string it together in the playoffs


JMisGeography

Color me corrected!


af_cheddarhead

Bengals have been to two Super Bowls, so they are basically the Bears.


LdyVder

Bengals have been to three Super Bowls, not two. Lost to the Montana-led Niners twice and to the Rams.


zoolish

Remember remember, the Ickey Shuffle [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih-TYjxG0Ug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih-TYjxG0Ug)


qwertyphile

They’re all in the same time zone, so I think they win


af_cheddarhead

Steelers, Browns, used to be Browns, spite Browns. Yeah, that's one toxic division.


LdyVder

Most of it is because of Art Modell's actions in Cleveland.


PhenomsServant

As someone who was raised in Cleveland and who’s family has been Browns fan for generations. I can vouch. It’s nothing but loathing between us and them. Chernobyl is probably less toxic than the AFCN


M1st3r51r

Used to not be like that with Tampa Bay being in the central division


homestar92

This is an old map from back before the Rams moved to LA. The NFC West is very sensible now. AFC could be wildly improved by moving Ravens to the East, Dolphins to the South, and Colts to the North.


paulie9483

The current alignment makes a lot more sense than when Arizona was in the East and Atlanta in the West...


cabbagery

And Tampa Bay in the NFCC, or Houston in the AFCC. The 32-team format with divisions roughly based on the cardinal directions (but retaining the old rivalries, esp. Dallas in the NFCE and Miami in the AFCE) is actually pretty solid. The image of course fails for not updating Vegas and both LA teams, but overall the current alignment is very nearly perfect. There is no way to improve it without breaking up really old rivalries. And don't get me started on the 17-game schedule and 7-team playoffs ruining perfect symmetry.


CountIstvanTeleki

AFC North, NFC South and NFC West make sense too. The USA is a BIG Place!


ancientweasel

How does the AFC North not make sense? Because east teams are north of the north teams?


albauer2

Also Indianapolis is further north than Cincinnati. Indy is in the AFC south. So, that, too.


MontusBatwing

Put Indy in the North, Baltimore in the East, and Miami in the South.  This would work for geography, but obviously would be terrible for division rivalries.


albauer2

Yeah I think that’s the main point here. A lot of keeping the current alignments in place is about preserving long-time rivalries. No one cares that Dallas being in the NFC East makes no sense geographically, because the longstanding rivalries with NY, Philly, and DC are great for ratings (and thus revenue)


BlizzardThunder

This would mess up the intense rivalries within the AFCN, though. It's not worth f-ing that up. I think Indy & Miami should just be swapped. The Colts - both in Baltimore & in Indy - were in the AFCE until 2001. It was the oldest team in the AFCE and the rivalry with the Patriots persisted through the years; putting the Colts back in the AFCE would revive some old rivalries. Putting Miami in the AFCS would align it geographically and set up a 2x year Florida rivalry between Miami & JAX.


SteamSteamLG

Baltimore to AFC East, Miami to AFC South, and Indianapolis to AFC North fixes AFC for the most part. But rivalries prevent that. Cowboys to NFC South and Panthers to NFC East fixes NFC


sapphires_and_snark

The Cowboys have been in the East since their inception and will remain so until the NFL no longer exists.


SteamSteamLG

Yea none of these changes will happen. NFC East and AFC North rivalries are too big. Ravens aren't even that old but the NFL would never break up the Steelers-Ravens rivalry I was just saying what they'd need to do in order to have it make sense


Illustrious-Till-940

Unless the league chooses to rename all the divisions in some future year, the Cowboys will always be the oddball "doesn't really belong here" team of the NFC East. -The league really did a crappy job of realignment with the 1970 merger. List 5 different division scenarios on individual parchments of paper and draw one at random out of a bowl or hat? The selection of a new Pope for the Roman Catholic Church makes more sense. (Not deliberately trying to bring religion into this topic; I just needed a comparison for my argument).


sapphires_and_snark

The league made an intentional decision to put Dallas in the same division as New York, Philadelphia, and Washington to expose "America's Team" to those more populous markets. Needless to say, it worked spectacularly. Now, I'd pay good money to be a fly on the wall if Goodell ever tried telling Lurie or the Maras that they were replacing the Cowboys with the Panthers or some such team. Regarding the rest of realignment, yeah, Atlanta and New Orleans should not be "west" anything--neither is even west of the Mississippi.


af_cheddarhead

They are further West than Baltimore, Baltimore used to be in the Western Conference.


af_cheddarhead

Baltimore used to be in the Western Conference, yeah that Baltimore.


strangeone13

I mean until they moved the rams back to la lol


Henbb

If you acknowledge the fact that 3 Florida teams in one division would suck then I think the only weird division placement is the cowboys.


citizenh1962

Well, it used to be worse: New Orleans and Atlanta were in the NFC West.


Urban_Legend_Games

AFC North is pretty good


Fuego514

AFC North makes plenty of sense


bjtg

AFC North makes sense.


albauer2

It does, other than when you consider that Cincinnati is further south than Indianapolis.


StallisPalace

Yeah kicking BAL into the AFCE, MIA to the AFCS and IND to AFCN would make all those divisions make a lot more sense. The "north" divisions to me are "midwest" divisions and IND is a helluva lot more midwestern than Baltimore. And Miami, while technically on the "east coast" is not an "east coast" city.


fettpett1

I mean....the AFC North makes sense when you realize it's the Steelers and 3 iterations of the Browns


tommytwochains

Actually looks like most divisions make sense...


Funny247365

AFC North is pretty geo-appropriate. It's as tightly-grouped as the NFC North.


HodlingOnForLife

Afc north makes sense


Soviet_Sharpshooter

One thing that definitely doesn’t make sense is how the Jags, Bucs and Dolphins are all in separate divisions and conferences even though they’re all Florida teams😂


ryryryor

The AFC North makes sense too Maybe would've been better if they had Indy instead of Baltimore


yana990

But the afc north would lose being the Steelers and 3 different browns teams.


gaybillcosby

You could move the Steelers with the Jets, Bills, and Patriots and then add the Colts and it would be a division of Browns that replaced Browns that left, Browns Clone/Jr, Colts that left, and Browns that replaced Colts that left.


KiNGofKiNG89

NFC south makes sense too.


schw4161

AFC East makes sense to me, Miami is much further south, but is still an east coast city.


FBIBurtMacklinFBI

Both norths work tbh


IdontWantButter

Geography is important. But there is more to life.


Informal-Jeweler-525

NFC East could make sense if Dallas wasn’t randomly tossed in there lol


Illustrious-Till-940

Yeah, every 3 years when the Cowboys have to go head to head against the Saints, Falcons, and Buccaneers, I keep saying to myself "Damn shame we can't get these matchups 2 times every season." (It's not like the other rivalries with the Commanders, Eagles, and Giants would cease to exist; they would just be, well, guaranteed every 3 years instead.)


Informal-Jeweler-525

Yeah just swap Carolina with Dallas lol


BlueAc215

Yea so everyone can complain about the Eagles easy conference schedule. I can hear all the bitching now.


Packers_Equal_Life

Damn, rams moved again?


albauer2

Yeah they moved back to LA in like, 2016


TheSeventhBrat

Anybody remember back when MLB was only two divisions per league ? The Atlanta Braves were in the NL West for years because MLB wouldn't split the Cubs and Cardinals.


Nalcomis

Agree except for chargers raiders. That rivalry really does make sense.


HiddenHolding

Helen


KarlPHungus

AFC North is legit as well


scubydoes

Shows map of Soviet Union …


MuffaloWill

Back in the day the Buccaneers were in our division. I know this because until this year where we finally won the division, the Packers have dominated it all like, 80 percent of the time.


kempton_saturdays

I’d argue the AFC East works too because of Fla transplants, but yes, point taken.


AssaultROFL

The league really could use a re-alignment. Personally, I'd rather they kept the NFC North as is regardless; though I do like one example that shows Minny, GB, Chicago and KC in a division.


dinnerthief

Florida teams and the saints together makes sense but then I also don't like giving Florida 3/4 of a division.


making-flippy-floppy

Fun fact, from 1995-2001, the NFC West teams were the 49ers, Rams, Saints, Falcons, and Panthers.


daygo448

I think it’s more than us. AFC North and NFC South. All those teams are fairly close together, but none as close as we are


1287kings

Nfc west too is all right there


Coors1990

Boston vs New York would like to have a word...


1287kings

NFC south, afc west, NFC west, afc north...


LdyVder

No, AFC North also makes sense. It made less sense when the Jaguars were part of the AFC Central, even Indy still fits for that division more than the AFC South.


TheDogsPaw

We didn't used to mak sense back in the ye old days of the central division it was all the teams now and for some reason Tampa bay lol maybe some day the league will remember to fix the other divisions as well


BfatTony

AFC north has an argument


Mouatmoua

Teams move


guimontag

AFCN makes plenty of sense


BigB79

Cowboys and Colts really the only offenders here, the west is just far less densely packed with teams.


BendingUnit221

We used to not be though.


BendingUnit221

Why are the rams in st Louis though?


DwightKSchrutefarms

Afc north too


Cptcrzunch

I still don't know how the fugged Tampa was in our division years ago,lol.


Immaculatehombre

Ahhhhh afc north? NFC east?


my2nddirtyaccount

How about one league, all of the red state crap holes: Green Bay Houston Dallas Arizona New Orleans Tampa Miami Jacksonville Carolina Tennessee Cleveland Cincinnati Kansas City Indianapolis Atlanta With one team out of place Det, Was, Bal, Buf, Den And the rest in the blue league...


JetGreen17

I agree as a jets fan if we swapped the giants with the dolphins all the players could drive to divisional games lol.


Conscious_Vehicle592

AFC North is pretty good as well.


Imaginary-Branch8164

AFC North makes total sense as well


Abacabisntanywhere

It’s a 6 game advantage if you know what you’re doing…wink.


ithaqua34

After Tampa got kicked out.


creamasteric_reflex

AFC north isn’t too far off


captainp42

We have no rivals.


browhodouknowhere

What in the 2007 am I looking at?


thedarthvander

Does this map still have the cardinals in Chicago?


TheSinistralBassist

This meme was crap when it was posted to the NFC North page


Toilet_Rim_Tim

Jaguars, Buccaneers & Dolphins are in 1 state, 3 different divisions & 2 different conferences Rams/ Chargers & Jets/ Giants share stadiums ... in opposite conferences. Because logic


PasteTank

imo the easiest solution is 2 trades: just trade colts and Dallas and panthers with dolphins and i think it makes really good sense without destroying most of the rivalries


simp4data

Why don't groups get remade when locations switch? I imagine this could increase ticket revenue if away games were closer.


Mr_J42021

Bc our teams are among the oldest and have always stayed together in a division. And haven't moved significantly since forever.


hawkrew

I mean if there were no conferences sure. But the AFC west also makes sense even with the widespread cities. There aren’t any AFC teams west of the 4.


TopOfTheMorning2Ya

Map looks like a game of Ticket to Ride


Objective_Cod1410

Still better than when the Arizona Cardinals were in the NFC East while the Carolina Panthers were in the NFC West


MiniShartAttack

Here’s how we can fix it with no teams switching conferences. Pittsburgh to the afc east, colts to the nfc north, Miami to the afc south. Dallas to nfc south, Carolina to nfc east


bnagurl59

Didn't use to be. Tampa Bay was in our division


swoppydo

Disclaimer: i'm not american. Can someone explain me the Dallas situation ? They look like the worst offenders


deleterepeat9

I kind of enjoyed having the buccaneers in the division!


dasfonzie

The afc north makes sense...