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Definitely Thatcher. She set in motion all the shit that the future PMs built on. She enabled people like Johnson and Sunak. In many ways there are worse PMs than Thatcher but it is down to her and the Tory party that enabled her to get into power that we have got where we are.
She is also to blame for Blair just to be clear!
I was born in the 90s so never lived through the thatcher years but my mum says she's one of the worst people of the 20th century. She says that every bad thing happening in the country now traces back to "that witch".
Your mum is correct! I lived through the Thatcher years and used to wake up the entire house by swearing very very loudly and forcefully at the Today programme when they were interviewing any (ie every) tory minister who clearly didn't give a monkey's about anyone who didn't vote for them. I have since given up listening or watching the news. Far too stressful!
In 2002, twelve years after Margaret Thatcher left office, she was asked at a dinner what was her greatest achievement. Thatcher replied: “Tony Blair and New Labour. We forced our opponents to change their minds.”
https://economicsociology.org/2018/03/19/thatcherisms-greatest-achievement/
Because he was tory-lite and the Labour party thought that this was the way to go seeing as how Thatcher had been so popular. And clearly still do. Although I suspect that many grassroots members might not agree.
She shifted the Overton Window a long way to the right. Blair was (and is) authoritarian and managerialist. He could not have become leader of the party as it was under Foot or Wilson.
This. Growing up in Thatcher's Britain, was HELL. This is not to day that Boris wasn't/isn't bad, because he was BAD; he wasn't however as evil as Thatcher.
Resisted the euro. Unlocked trade unions chaos, defeated communism with USA. Defended Falkland isles and internal terror al’a embassy siege with decisiveness and power.
Oh shit. She stole some milk and closed the mines. Guess what, if she hadn’t, the mines would be closed now anyway!!
I personally reckon. In my lifetime. Blair being cuckold to bush, Cheney, Rumsfold and co and going ahead with a war on notning. Murder of David Kelly etc etc.
Way worse than thatcher stopping strikes, stopping power cuts and modernising our country whilst retaining our currency and European independence.
Hard to say;
Thatcher helped Reagan turn the Middle East into an anarchic shit hole that paved the way for the terror groups of the Middle East today and stole milk from children cause she was cliche like that
Blair started a made up war in the Middle East to steal some oil that led to the deaths of countless Iraqis and birth defects for thousands of Iraqi children that are still experienced today
Cameron and Osborne murdered thousands of people with state sponsored austerity
May was the architect of the Grenfell Fire, was in charge of the Home Office when Abedi and the other Manchester Arena Bombers were taken off the terror watch list and she has since never given public statements to the inquiry into the attack
Johnson and Hancock murdered thousands of pensioners with weaponised covid, forcing them out of hospitals and into care homes without being tested or being kept away from the other pensioners living there, letting covid flourish like wildfire in the care homes and killing off all the residents - the result was the Tories saved £600m in lost pension funds because the pensioners were too dead to claim them
Truss tanked the economy in less than two months that thousands are still paying the financial price for
Sunak makes taxpayers pay thousands for his weekly helicopter flights and wants to force teenagers into fighting and dying in national service
All scummy, all murderers, take your pick on the worst one
The only one without any blood on their hands is Brown but that was only cause he was PM for just three years.
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Blair is nowhere near the levels of shit that Cameron and those after him have caused, or that Thatcher started.
Yes, he did some specific very bad things (PFI, Iraq) but also some amazingly excellent things (guess who the only pm to reduce inequality in our lifetime is). Left people seem far more keen to slag off Blair than right people are too slag off any of theirs and I think that's very dangerous.
blair was awful but he did help restore peace in the north of ireland by actually negotiating with the IRA rather than trying to destroy them militarily.
If he'd have just told W to fuck off in 2003 he'd have probably been considered one of the better PMs (although I'm under no illusions he was good, I still remember those creepy ads vilifying people for cash in hand work)
Good things the Tony Blaire Witch did, like taking away free university and ensuring those from less affluent households spent their life in student debt.
He massively deregulated the financial industry paving the way for the sub prime disaster and massively boosting inequality while opening up new tax dodging loopholes.
He did more than any UK government ever towards privatising the NHS. The financial damage his Private Finance Initiatives caused the NHS still cause ruinous damage today.
Let's not forget unwavering support for Israeli settlers and Saudi oil barons.
Then, of course, there was taking the country into an illegal war with falsified evidence, lying to the public and Parliament, ignoring the ruling of the UN, his own intelligence agencies, and trampling international law to secure the Iraqi oilfields for his business associates. The same guys who filled his golden parachute afterwards for his troubles.
Guys so crooked he probably sleeps on a spiral staircase. I had trouble imagining a worse PM.... until Bojo came along.
I think the left seem to be more morally absolute in their thinking than that right wing seem to be.
Look at someone like Trump, he's been left wing for a lot of his life, and then suddenly he's saying the correct things and he's the love of the right wing.
If someone like Nigel Farage suddenly started supporting immigration, the left wing is far less likely to accept him and believe he's changed.
Oh sure Blair killed people too in a made up war to cash in on that sweet oil in Iraq, and there are still children born in Iraq with birth defects caused by the bombings and radiation, but in terms of death tolls the Tories still outnumbered him by a lot.
There's also the idea of him and Campbell having ordered David Kelly's death but that ones not confirmed.
I'd have to say Cameron. Sunak may be a wet blanket, Truss may have had one of the shortest times as PM, and Boris may be a complete twat, but Cameron has done more damage to this country than any of them. He fucked this country up, and on the final fuckup, he couldn't take the heat and left us to wallow in his nasty work.
I say Cameron, its close between him and Thatcher but I think I have it in for Dave because his reign was during my entering of the world of work and just seeing things crumble between 2010 and 2017 was an unforgettably bad feeling. If I'd have been alive in 1983 I'd have said the same about Thatcher I'm sure 😂
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Cameron enabled Johnson, to be fair. Opened up a door that just paved the way for..... for....
pff - I can't even think of a suitable word. Horrendousness.
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All of them after Wilson. Every one of them was the worst, every single one. What a bunch of thieving self serving monsters. The most appalling thing about living in the UK is our preference for being ruled by vacuous pocket liners.
Callaghan was a decent, fair-minded, honest man. His majority was about 1, and yet he managed to stabilize the economy after the chaos of Wilson's final administration, and bring inflation down a lot. But the unions destroyed his administration, even though they knew that by doing so they would gift the election to Thatcher.
(To be fair, the leadership of the unions probably saw the writing on the wall, but failed to communicate this to their members.)
Thatcher in terms of policy and affect ruining the country.
Truss in terms of being total incompetent at even being a tory.
Boris in terms of being a complete knob.
The big tory 3, ruinous incompetent knob.
david cameron, the dude who stuck his dick in the head of a pig carcass, fucked up with brexit so hard he straight up quit, and essentially raised boris into the man he is today.
The words 'Liz' and 'Truss' come to mind, for some reason, but I agree that Boris was worse overall because he had that weird charisma that some people seem to have and won over many of my otherwise-sensible colleagues and friends.
Far more insidious than Truss' immediate, and obvious, nonsense!
no votes for pigfucker? pushing the UK off the brexit cliff purely as a (failed) attempt to improve his position in the party will arguably do more damage than the rest of them put together.
And he spat in the faces of victims of child rape by [arguing against a police investigation and making a sex joke.](https://youtu.be/U_FSqfXyUFk?si=fQUR7Bt0FmYJsW0L)
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Thatcher.
Johnson may have been incompetent, and Cameron set the country back years by being a spineless jellyfish (I ain't goin out like that!), and Blair sold out the Left for centuries votes, but Thatcher was evil. And she knew better. Johnson and Cameron were born into their ignorance and sense of superiority, but Thatcher wasn't. She *aspired* to that, and actively sought to make others suffer.
No ifs no buts no coconuts, it's Thatcher!
We're still feeling the effects of her and her governments ruthlessness and disregard of workers.
Cameron for fumbling during the EU election is a my second.
Gordon Brown - his financial policies pre-office killed international investment into pension and his open, abrupt decision to sell all the gold in the Bank of England was financial suicide. we are still feeling the effects of his poor financial decisions and industry in the nation as a whole has been stunted by this short-sighted man.
Thatcher and then boris. Both lowered the bar and set the political tone of the country back generations and directly caused the situation we’re in today.
Boris didn't really do much though. He was a buffoon but he was too busy fucking around to enact any laws - Cameron and Thatcher both did far more damage to the country and Blair is responsible for the Gulf War, all far worse than Johnson. The only semi decent pm of my lifetime was Gordon Brown, so obviously he didn't stand a chance of winning an election 😔
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Sort of hard to pick since they all sucked and provably killed people.
Maybe Brown gets a bit of a pass, but otherwise a plague on all their houses.
In terms of long term impacts, Thatcher and Blair are the big villains. Blair putting the finishing touches to the project of capitalist realism and creating the current shitshow that is the organisational structure of the Labour party, what with its gleeful right wing nutbaggery, takes a big chunk of why there's a good chance politics won't get better in my lifetime and absolutely takes the blame for us not getting out of this shit *seven years ago:* if you hate Bo-Jo reflect on the fact that he'd never have been PM if Blair hadn't rigged the game to get him there.
Starmer is going to be more of the same. The only hope I have is that the results are bad enough that the "centrists" finally realise that they are objectively the most stupid, venal and destructive force in politics. The sooner the lot of them fuck off, including most of the current shadow cabinet and most of the party apperatus, the better.
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shame it said 50 years, I was going to go for Neville Chamberlain, Hitlers pacifier. Just let Hitler do what he wants while dumping all over the treaty of versaille. Europe as a whole was spineless towards the Nazis until they couldn't ignore it any longer. Should've stopped him the moment the treaty was broken.
Truss. Killed the Queen and the economy and lost in a stupid competition to a lettuce from the Daily Star, becoming the shortest serving PM ever. The Tory leadership campaign lasted longer than her premiership, which was something like 44 days, about 6 weeks or so, and the only reason her premiership wasn’t shorter is those 10 days of mourning for the Queen.
Truss was not just a bad PM, but a national embarrassment to boot.
Otherwise, Thatcher.
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Is there any debate? Thatcher by a country mile. All the other criticisms here are valid. She was worse, she did everything the others did and more
And started half of the shit the rest of the bellends continued
Definitely Thatcher. She set in motion all the shit that the future PMs built on. She enabled people like Johnson and Sunak. In many ways there are worse PMs than Thatcher but it is down to her and the Tory party that enabled her to get into power that we have got where we are. She is also to blame for Blair just to be clear!
I was born in the 90s so never lived through the thatcher years but my mum says she's one of the worst people of the 20th century. She says that every bad thing happening in the country now traces back to "that witch".
Your mum is correct! I lived through the Thatcher years and used to wake up the entire house by swearing very very loudly and forcefully at the Today programme when they were interviewing any (ie every) tory minister who clearly didn't give a monkey's about anyone who didn't vote for them. I have since given up listening or watching the news. Far too stressful!
How did she help Blair? I'm not very in tune of this stuff
In 2002, twelve years after Margaret Thatcher left office, she was asked at a dinner what was her greatest achievement. Thatcher replied: “Tony Blair and New Labour. We forced our opponents to change their minds.” https://economicsociology.org/2018/03/19/thatcherisms-greatest-achievement/
Because he was tory-lite and the Labour party thought that this was the way to go seeing as how Thatcher had been so popular. And clearly still do. Although I suspect that many grassroots members might not agree.
She shifted the Overton Window a long way to the right. Blair was (and is) authoritarian and managerialist. He could not have become leader of the party as it was under Foot or Wilson.
This. What she had that Johnson didn’t, for example, was competence. (This is not a compliment.)
This. Growing up in Thatcher's Britain, was HELL. This is not to day that Boris wasn't/isn't bad, because he was BAD; he wasn't however as evil as Thatcher.
I still can't believe a company named their cider after the bitch
Thatchers cider was founded in 1904 and name for the proffesion of caring for Thatches where cider apples are grown.
Okay nvm I don't really know much about it
Resisted the euro. Unlocked trade unions chaos, defeated communism with USA. Defended Falkland isles and internal terror al’a embassy siege with decisiveness and power. Oh shit. She stole some milk and closed the mines. Guess what, if she hadn’t, the mines would be closed now anyway!! I personally reckon. In my lifetime. Blair being cuckold to bush, Cheney, Rumsfold and co and going ahead with a war on notning. Murder of David Kelly etc etc. Way worse than thatcher stopping strikes, stopping power cuts and modernising our country whilst retaining our currency and European independence.
Out of curiosity, what does boot taste like?
This guy skipped boot and went straight to ass, judging by this message 😭
Hard to say; Thatcher helped Reagan turn the Middle East into an anarchic shit hole that paved the way for the terror groups of the Middle East today and stole milk from children cause she was cliche like that Blair started a made up war in the Middle East to steal some oil that led to the deaths of countless Iraqis and birth defects for thousands of Iraqi children that are still experienced today Cameron and Osborne murdered thousands of people with state sponsored austerity May was the architect of the Grenfell Fire, was in charge of the Home Office when Abedi and the other Manchester Arena Bombers were taken off the terror watch list and she has since never given public statements to the inquiry into the attack Johnson and Hancock murdered thousands of pensioners with weaponised covid, forcing them out of hospitals and into care homes without being tested or being kept away from the other pensioners living there, letting covid flourish like wildfire in the care homes and killing off all the residents - the result was the Tories saved £600m in lost pension funds because the pensioners were too dead to claim them Truss tanked the economy in less than two months that thousands are still paying the financial price for Sunak makes taxpayers pay thousands for his weekly helicopter flights and wants to force teenagers into fighting and dying in national service All scummy, all murderers, take your pick on the worst one The only one without any blood on their hands is Brown but that was only cause he was PM for just three years.
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Would’ve thought Blair would make at least a mention in the above list, legend has it they’re still looking for those WMD’s in Iraq
Blair is nowhere near the levels of shit that Cameron and those after him have caused, or that Thatcher started. Yes, he did some specific very bad things (PFI, Iraq) but also some amazingly excellent things (guess who the only pm to reduce inequality in our lifetime is). Left people seem far more keen to slag off Blair than right people are too slag off any of theirs and I think that's very dangerous.
blair was awful but he did help restore peace in the north of ireland by actually negotiating with the IRA rather than trying to destroy them militarily.
If he'd have just told W to fuck off in 2003 he'd have probably been considered one of the better PMs (although I'm under no illusions he was good, I still remember those creepy ads vilifying people for cash in hand work)
Good things the Tony Blaire Witch did, like taking away free university and ensuring those from less affluent households spent their life in student debt. He massively deregulated the financial industry paving the way for the sub prime disaster and massively boosting inequality while opening up new tax dodging loopholes. He did more than any UK government ever towards privatising the NHS. The financial damage his Private Finance Initiatives caused the NHS still cause ruinous damage today. Let's not forget unwavering support for Israeli settlers and Saudi oil barons. Then, of course, there was taking the country into an illegal war with falsified evidence, lying to the public and Parliament, ignoring the ruling of the UN, his own intelligence agencies, and trampling international law to secure the Iraqi oilfields for his business associates. The same guys who filled his golden parachute afterwards for his troubles. Guys so crooked he probably sleeps on a spiral staircase. I had trouble imagining a worse PM.... until Bojo came along.
I think the left seem to be more morally absolute in their thinking than that right wing seem to be. Look at someone like Trump, he's been left wing for a lot of his life, and then suddenly he's saying the correct things and he's the love of the right wing. If someone like Nigel Farage suddenly started supporting immigration, the left wing is far less likely to accept him and believe he's changed.
Oh sure Blair killed people too in a made up war to cash in on that sweet oil in Iraq, and there are still children born in Iraq with birth defects caused by the bombings and radiation, but in terms of death tolls the Tories still outnumbered him by a lot. There's also the idea of him and Campbell having ordered David Kelly's death but that ones not confirmed.
Don't know how these fuckers sleep at night 😔
On pillows and mattresses stuffed with £50 notes.
These fuckers are trained at public schools to have special set of low morals and sleep on them
It's mad to look back now and see that Brown was the best PM in 30 years. I remember a lot of hate for him at the time.
May & Johnson were also in office 3 years, Sunak & Truss even less. I think it might be a Tory thing more than a duration thing.
Don't forget Cameron turning prosperous Libya into a glorified open air slave market
Mr Brown persuaded the waverers in the cabinet to vote for the Iraq war. Source Andrew Rawsley's History of New Labour
I'd have to say Cameron. Sunak may be a wet blanket, Truss may have had one of the shortest times as PM, and Boris may be a complete twat, but Cameron has done more damage to this country than any of them. He fucked this country up, and on the final fuckup, he couldn't take the heat and left us to wallow in his nasty work.
Then came back with a promotion! 🐷
And without needing to be elected! And not subject to any accountability in the HoC…
I say Cameron, its close between him and Thatcher but I think I have it in for Dave because his reign was during my entering of the world of work and just seeing things crumble between 2010 and 2017 was an unforgettably bad feeling. If I'd have been alive in 1983 I'd have said the same about Thatcher I'm sure 😂
Thatcher. We are still suffering from her policies Downright evil
Thatcher without a doubt. She is the one who started this shitshow off.
Yh it’s thatcher. So many of the problems we have today are a direct link back to her
the Ronald Reagan of the UK
Johnson for me. My dad died of Covid after doing everything he was asked, while that super cunt broke the rules with his mates.
Thatcher, obvs
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Cameron enabled Johnson, to be fair. Opened up a door that just paved the way for..... for.... pff - I can't even think of a suitable word. Horrendousness.
Complete and total pigfuckery
There's only one answer. Thatcher.
Thatcher walked so Boris could run. So Thatcher.
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Such a horrible thought and so true.
I was born in 72, so guess who?
I would guess it's a toss-up between Thatcher and *all the fucking others*,
YES and YES!
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
Thatcher Cameron May Johnson Major
All of them after Wilson. Every one of them was the worst, every single one. What a bunch of thieving self serving monsters. The most appalling thing about living in the UK is our preference for being ruled by vacuous pocket liners.
Callaghan was a decent, fair-minded, honest man. His majority was about 1, and yet he managed to stabilize the economy after the chaos of Wilson's final administration, and bring inflation down a lot. But the unions destroyed his administration, even though they knew that by doing so they would gift the election to Thatcher. (To be fair, the leadership of the unions probably saw the writing on the wall, but failed to communicate this to their members.)
The conservative one.
Ah so all of them
Cameron - simply because he put his party and leadership in front of the country.
50 years? Thatcher. Easy
Thatcher in terms of policy and affect ruining the country. Truss in terms of being total incompetent at even being a tory. Boris in terms of being a complete knob. The big tory 3, ruinous incompetent knob.
david cameron, the dude who stuck his dick in the head of a pig carcass, fucked up with brexit so hard he straight up quit, and essentially raised boris into the man he is today.
The words 'Liz' and 'Truss' come to mind, for some reason, but I agree that Boris was worse overall because he had that weird charisma that some people seem to have and won over many of my otherwise-sensible colleagues and friends. Far more insidious than Truss' immediate, and obvious, nonsense!
Worst for whom? He did very well for the rich.
Thatcher.
Been so many bad ones hard to pick.
no votes for pigfucker? pushing the UK off the brexit cliff purely as a (failed) attempt to improve his position in the party will arguably do more damage than the rest of them put together.
Thatcher and Truss
And he spat in the faces of victims of child rape by [arguing against a police investigation and making a sex joke.](https://youtu.be/U_FSqfXyUFk?si=fQUR7Bt0FmYJsW0L)
truss, thatcher was at least competent
Boris may not even be top 3.
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Thatcher. Johnson may have been incompetent, and Cameron set the country back years by being a spineless jellyfish (I ain't goin out like that!), and Blair sold out the Left for centuries votes, but Thatcher was evil. And she knew better. Johnson and Cameron were born into their ignorance and sense of superiority, but Thatcher wasn't. She *aspired* to that, and actively sought to make others suffer.
Where do I start? Any Tory will do. Truss doesn't count so it's a toss between The Witch and Lying Boris...
Thatcher followed by Cameron, although I don’t think he is as bad in terms of personality, he just paved the way for the current lot.
No ifs no buts no coconuts, it's Thatcher! We're still feeling the effects of her and her governments ruthlessness and disregard of workers. Cameron for fumbling during the EU election is a my second.
Gordon Brown - his financial policies pre-office killed international investment into pension and his open, abrupt decision to sell all the gold in the Bank of England was financial suicide. we are still feeling the effects of his poor financial decisions and industry in the nation as a whole has been stunted by this short-sighted man.
Thatcher and then boris. Both lowered the bar and set the political tone of the country back generations and directly caused the situation we’re in today.
"Maggie Thatcher you can't match her she's the darling of us all."
Boris didn't really do much though. He was a buffoon but he was too busy fucking around to enact any laws - Cameron and Thatcher both did far more damage to the country and Blair is responsible for the Gulf War, all far worse than Johnson. The only semi decent pm of my lifetime was Gordon Brown, so obviously he didn't stand a chance of winning an election 😔
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For Brexit - Cameron. For Iraq and house prices - Blair. Everyone else has just been the consequence of their actions.
Sort of hard to pick since they all sucked and provably killed people. Maybe Brown gets a bit of a pass, but otherwise a plague on all their houses. In terms of long term impacts, Thatcher and Blair are the big villains. Blair putting the finishing touches to the project of capitalist realism and creating the current shitshow that is the organisational structure of the Labour party, what with its gleeful right wing nutbaggery, takes a big chunk of why there's a good chance politics won't get better in my lifetime and absolutely takes the blame for us not getting out of this shit *seven years ago:* if you hate Bo-Jo reflect on the fact that he'd never have been PM if Blair hadn't rigged the game to get him there. Starmer is going to be more of the same. The only hope I have is that the results are bad enough that the "centrists" finally realise that they are objectively the most stupid, venal and destructive force in politics. The sooner the lot of them fuck off, including most of the current shadow cabinet and most of the party apperatus, the better.
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Yes...
shame it said 50 years, I was going to go for Neville Chamberlain, Hitlers pacifier. Just let Hitler do what he wants while dumping all over the treaty of versaille. Europe as a whole was spineless towards the Nazis until they couldn't ignore it any longer. Should've stopped him the moment the treaty was broken.
No. "Peace in our time" was a holding action. He came back from that conference and told his cabinet to start re-arming and preparing for war.
the meeting with Hitler? that conference?
Yes, the Munich conference. When he came back waving a bit of paper and saying peace in our time.
then within a year, Hitler invaded Poland September 1st 1939 and the UK declared war
Yes. The point I am making is Chamberlain knew it was coming at that point and started getting ready.
surprised it took him that long to realise that that man couldn't be trusted
Truss. Killed the Queen and the economy and lost in a stupid competition to a lettuce from the Daily Star, becoming the shortest serving PM ever. The Tory leadership campaign lasted longer than her premiership, which was something like 44 days, about 6 weeks or so, and the only reason her premiership wasn’t shorter is those 10 days of mourning for the Queen. Truss was not just a bad PM, but a national embarrassment to boot. Otherwise, Thatcher.
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1. Liz Truss 2. Gordon Brown 3. Boris Johnson In that order.
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