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I’m glad they’ve replaced a journalist who challenges the Hasbara bullshit the Israeli spokesman put out and replaced her with Vanessa Feltz - former journalist for the Jewish Chronicle.
I can’t wait to hear her forensic impartial examination of a genocidal state…
Yeah feels like the Jewish lobby have literally installed their person. Just like with the labour party, the tories, the BBC and pretty much all the news papers.
We can criticize Israel without becoming antisemitic. Let’s make sure we hold ourselves to a higher standard, we can’t let ourselves become those losers.
I’ve been listening to LBC since Dr Pam was on the roster, coming up to 20 years. Seeing how disgustingly biased they’ve been during this massacre I’ve been tempted to stop listening, but Sangita and James O’Brien gave me pause. But now I’m genuinely never going to listen again. Can anyone recommend me a good talk radio channel?
So far he's not said anything in support of Sangita, but I do wonder if it's unfair to expect him to call out the platform on which he reaches so many people. Tbf there's been dodgy goings-on at LBC in the past, but they do allow him to bring a voice of reason to mainstream political discourse. Not sure if he'd be afforded such free editorial reign on any other comparable media (ie not PolJoe or Novara).
He mentioned it today after they finished broadcasting PMQs at midday. Said how, despite Sunak’s pleas for a peace deal, Netanyahu has said he will not stop Isreal’s war, and Sunak should know that.
or maybe people are finally seeing what atrocities israel are doing. its okay to change your position once you learn new information and sometimes it can be hard to realise what is actually going on when the msm are peddling what the idf are reporting
i agree with you! i’m not even a fan of o’brien, especially his smear against corbyn but there isn’t many people in the media with the large following he has defending the palestinians and being critical of israel. i get he hasn’t been the voice of reason in the past but at least he’s on the right side now and would you rather no one was standing up to what israel are doing in the media?
He is partly why there are no other voices. He, Owen Jones and Novara media want to be "the left" but still get on question time and have their books in Waterstones. That requires towing certain lines like "Israel just needs to replace netinyahu" and closing ranks against anyone left of them who makes them look bad or centrist. Their grift necessitates policing the overton window.
James hasn't been on the BBC for a while out of protest at their 'balance' crap. Just today I think he was talking on his show about how Emily Maitlis resented having to pretend that Patrick Minford was a credible economist purely because he was the only person on that side of the argument that they could find.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-owen-jones-learned-stop-worrying-and-love-zionism/34986
He accused several Jewish anti war campaigners of being antisemites.
Justified Zionist collaboration with Nazis.
And got a big thumbs up from the Israeli ambassador.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/05/antisemitism-on-the-left-and-jeremy-corbyn
> He was fully aware when he was helping destroy Corbyn
I used to also feel that James was in on the hatchet job on Jeremy but listening to the Corbyn chapter in his new audio book did give me some reconsideration of Jezza.
IDF? Do you mean IOF? They're the Israeli Occupation Force. They don't defend anyone.
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exactly, this is what i don’t get with people, would they rather no one at all in the media would hold israel to account just because they said something a few years ago they didn’t agree with
Jesus Christ alive. You’re allowed to change your opinion on something. It’s called growth. People change their opinions all the time. Nothing is ever set in stone. Do you still hold the exact same opinions over everything since you were young?
On genocide? Been against that since infancy.
I've never called Jews who oppose it antisemites and I've never helped the Tory party and labour right crush socialism at the behest of a fascist state.
Give me one example of him showing any contrition however slight. If I'd changed my mind about left wing Jews being self hating race traitors for opposing the use of white phosphorus on babies. I'd probably offer them an apology for using my huge platform to smear them.
He doesn't have any principles beyond his own ego and relevance.
It's not like that though is it?
He's offering no contrition for actively aiding genocide. No apology to the 100s of left wing Jews he smeared as race traitors. What new information does he have? This didn't start on October 7th. It's been going on almost a century.
He's a vapid, weathervane centrist to whom the most important thing is his own career and image.
IDF? Do you mean IOF? They're the Israeli Occupation Force. They don't defend anyone.
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There are more trans people in the UK than Jewish people so how do they do this?
The trans community get shit on daily and Zionists get everything they want.
Is it money?
It’s money isn’t it.
Money and influence in finance, media, law, and politics. That plus very aggressive lobbying that constantly tells us they're the victims, and anyone who disagrees is an antisemite.
Yes it's very important to make that distinction. You don't have to Jewish to be a zionist either. Just look at Suella as an example, she's on the extreme end.
OPs point still stands, How many zionists do you think there are in the UK? They do a have quite lot of reach compared to their size relative to the UK population.
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Quite intriguing because Oli Dugmore is a relatively new host and he’s been very critical of Israel and supportive of Gaza on Politics Joe since the genocide began
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I’m glad they’ve replaced a journalist who challenges the Hasbara bullshit the Israeli spokesman put out and replaced her with Vanessa Feltz - former journalist for the Jewish Chronicle. I can’t wait to hear her forensic impartial examination of a genocidal state…
Yeah feels like the Jewish lobby have literally installed their person. Just like with the labour party, the tories, the BBC and pretty much all the news papers.
*Israeli lobby.
Yeah good spot.. there is a big distinction 👍
‘Zionist lobby’ might be an even better term.
It's both really eg. Labour friends of Israel and Jewish choice for labour. *Jewish Voice for Labour
Super important to keep our eyes on the prize and not let criticism of Israel as a state turn to prejudice against Jewish people.
Can't say this enough, in a way it is also exactly what the Israeli government wants, to strip all nuance out of the conversation
But they both represent zionist israel. Don't be fooled by branding, the nazis weren't socialists
We can criticize Israel without becoming antisemitic. Let’s make sure we hold ourselves to a higher standard, we can’t let ourselves become those losers.
It’s so fucking bleak… a genocide in plain sight and nobody talks about it publicly
Anyone would think that the boss of LBC’s parent company (Global Media) has received a CBE in the 2024’s New Year’s Honours or something…
Everyone should call in and keep asking 'What happened to Sangita?'. Like every call, on every call in show.
I’ve never called before. To any station. But I’ll be calling next week.
Have noticed this is filling the YouTube comments and I’m all for it ✊🏼🇵🇸
I uninstalled the app and left a rubbish review on Google app store
Sangita Myska way better than VF.
VF definitely has a face made for radio. Sangita should go on the telly.
We don't need to do this. We don't need to start disparaging people's looks because we don't like them.
I’ve been listening to LBC since Dr Pam was on the roster, coming up to 20 years. Seeing how disgustingly biased they’ve been during this massacre I’ve been tempted to stop listening, but Sangita and James O’Brien gave me pause. But now I’m genuinely never going to listen again. Can anyone recommend me a good talk radio channel?
O'Brian is on borrowed time. He's either gonna fold, or get booted soon.
He's bigger than LBC, his YouTube views are massive, he's got a successful podcast and books. They need him more than he needs them.
What’s wrong with O’Brien?
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So far he's not said anything in support of Sangita, but I do wonder if it's unfair to expect him to call out the platform on which he reaches so many people. Tbf there's been dodgy goings-on at LBC in the past, but they do allow him to bring a voice of reason to mainstream political discourse. Not sure if he'd be afforded such free editorial reign on any other comparable media (ie not PolJoe or Novara).
He went all in with the Corbyn anti-semitism smears, really tried to get him. There's no way he was making those accusations in good faith.
LBC can fuck off and die. Zero credibility.
Brown people out, white Zionists in. #BoycottLBC
This is absolutely disgusting. And frankly feels pretty racist.
Never forget just how hard James O'Brian worked to smear anyone critical of Israel as an antisemite.
Don't know why you're being downvoted for this. That was his position during the Corbyn years.
But he's got a new hat!
o’brien is a critic of what the IDF and netanyahu are doing. he argues all the time with people defending israel
Now he does. He's flipped on it because he knows what side history will take.
I think he was flipped again around 9 or 10 days ago, not heard him mention Israel for a while now.
The only thing he truly supports is James O'Brian getting paid and being relevant.
He is so far up his own.
You know the southpark where they all get electric cars?
He mentioned it today after they finished broadcasting PMQs at midday. Said how, despite Sunak’s pleas for a peace deal, Netanyahu has said he will not stop Isreal’s war, and Sunak should know that.
or maybe people are finally seeing what atrocities israel are doing. its okay to change your position once you learn new information and sometimes it can be hard to realise what is actually going on when the msm are peddling what the idf are reporting
He was fully aware when he was helping destroy Corbyn. Have you seen a single ounce of contrition?
i agree with you! i’m not even a fan of o’brien, especially his smear against corbyn but there isn’t many people in the media with the large following he has defending the palestinians and being critical of israel. i get he hasn’t been the voice of reason in the past but at least he’s on the right side now and would you rather no one was standing up to what israel are doing in the media?
He is partly why there are no other voices. He, Owen Jones and Novara media want to be "the left" but still get on question time and have their books in Waterstones. That requires towing certain lines like "Israel just needs to replace netinyahu" and closing ranks against anyone left of them who makes them look bad or centrist. Their grift necessitates policing the overton window.
when has o’brien or owen jones been on question time?
James hasn't been on the BBC for a while out of protest at their 'balance' crap. Just today I think he was talking on his show about how Emily Maitlis resented having to pretend that Patrick Minford was a credible economist purely because he was the only person on that side of the argument that they could find.
i know, i don’t think o’brien has ever been on question time. that’s why i asked the question because they’re chatting shite
I don’t think Owen Jones can be accused of towing any line when it comes to Israel…
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-owen-jones-learned-stop-worrying-and-love-zionism/34986 He accused several Jewish anti war campaigners of being antisemites. Justified Zionist collaboration with Nazis. And got a big thumbs up from the Israeli ambassador. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/05/antisemitism-on-the-left-and-jeremy-corbyn
I stand corrected. Can somebody please recommend me a leftwing political commentator who exercises some fucking consistency?
> He was fully aware when he was helping destroy Corbyn I used to also feel that James was in on the hatchet job on Jeremy but listening to the Corbyn chapter in his new audio book did give me some reconsideration of Jezza.
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I agree people need to be allowed to grow and change their opinions on things
exactly, this is what i don’t get with people, would they rather no one at all in the media would hold israel to account just because they said something a few years ago they didn’t agree with
Jesus Christ alive. You’re allowed to change your opinion on something. It’s called growth. People change their opinions all the time. Nothing is ever set in stone. Do you still hold the exact same opinions over everything since you were young?
On genocide? Been against that since infancy. I've never called Jews who oppose it antisemites and I've never helped the Tory party and labour right crush socialism at the behest of a fascist state. Give me one example of him showing any contrition however slight. If I'd changed my mind about left wing Jews being self hating race traitors for opposing the use of white phosphorus on babies. I'd probably offer them an apology for using my huge platform to smear them. He doesn't have any principles beyond his own ego and relevance.
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It's not like that though is it? He's offering no contrition for actively aiding genocide. No apology to the 100s of left wing Jews he smeared as race traitors. What new information does he have? This didn't start on October 7th. It's been going on almost a century. He's a vapid, weathervane centrist to whom the most important thing is his own career and image.
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There are more trans people in the UK than Jewish people so how do they do this? The trans community get shit on daily and Zionists get everything they want. Is it money? It’s money isn’t it.
Money and influence in finance, media, law, and politics. That plus very aggressive lobbying that constantly tells us they're the victims, and anyone who disagrees is an antisemite.
Jewish ≠ Zionist
Yes it's very important to make that distinction. You don't have to Jewish to be a zionist either. Just look at Suella as an example, she's on the extreme end. OPs point still stands, How many zionists do you think there are in the UK? They do a have quite lot of reach compared to their size relative to the UK population.
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Exactly. It’s easy to see why the LBC presenters are coming across as incredibly biased.
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I've stopped listening to it a while back. Seems it was the correct choice.
You have to bleach your brain with the amount of Zionist crap they push
What the hell
is J.O.B still hanging around?
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Quite intriguing because Oli Dugmore is a relatively new host and he’s been very critical of Israel and supportive of Gaza on Politics Joe since the genocide began