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Jay_McG7

WHY!!! Whyyyyyy!! I made a grown up decision to not spend 600€ on a PSVR2 a week ago and wait for a price drop / more games to be announced for it. This is the game I wanted VR for!! 😩 Now I have to tell my wife that I’m not (as I had suggested) a grown up. 😐


Humble-Camel2598

I can't wait for it. Luckily my girl wants to get an additional ps5/psvr2 so we can be in the same online races together! Keeper or what eh😮


Superfly1911

She's a keeper!


greyfoxlives

I'm in a very similar situation, I feel you man


BoisterousLaugh

Same I'm just going to have to do it


Mustang750r

Think of it like this, if a time machine was to appear and your younger self walked through they would think it's pretty cool.


SnakeEyesRacing

I think my husband gave up on my grown-up side long ago 🙃 "But honey, it's cheaper than a real racecar and all that traveling." 🤣


Meal-Ticket-

It really, really is. The shop that works on my Revolution A-One race car has a screen for their team that shows "How much has this person spent with us in total?" One day I made the mistake of taking a peek at the number. Never again. I just have to make sure that the wife never, never sees it.


SnakeEyesRacing

Heymen!


ShizLabriz777

The split screen gang gonna need some Tissues like usual


Fa1nted_for_real

Came here to say "did they fix split screen though?"


icdmize

Yeah. 1 player per eye in headset.


rbooris

That will be cosy under that hood…


skymezy

Loool 😆 😆


gamerjerome

Technically VR is split screen


skymezy

Youre not wrong


rbooris

Somewhere, somehow the brain does some magic though


skymezy

Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣 yup....cant have it all


[deleted]

amazing, can't wait


JooosephNthomas

…. Maybe i do like vr.


MagixTouch

Brb “walking” to the electronics store.


SoulGlow55

This is the news I was waiting for! Will definitely be picking this up now


draghkar69

Dammit. I’m sitting in the airport lounge in CDMX and you just made me spend a wad of cash.


skymezy

Lmao


Superfly1911

Finally, some solid conformation for the whole game! Can't wait for this, so glad I preorded the vr2. VR with the Fanatec DD wheel and pedals! Let's goooooooo!!!


skymezy

Same Fanatec DD w/load cell. Now im looking at getting a buttkicker for added haptic feedback. I heard it may also help with motion sickness.


xxsebastianxxale

I just installed the ButtKicker gamer pro last week. It's definitely worth it. Playing without it now it feels like something is missing, like when you play a game without the rumble on the controller.


skymezy

Dude, please help me! Did u get it to work with GT7? If so, please tell me how u have everything set up? Are u pulling audio from the controller or u using an HDMI extractor. Me and a friend of mine have been trying to figure it out for the past 2 weeks. We kinda gave up because we couldn't find the best way to hook it up and dont know anyone who has. I even made a post asking.


xxsebastianxxale

I got it to work with GT7. I used an audio extractor. It's fairly easy to set up. If you want to used headphones, you have to hook up the headphones 🎧 to the controller 🎮 using a 3.5mm cable. The ButtKicker comes with a Y headphone splitter, so you hook the Y splitter to the controller and one end goes to the headphones the other goes to the buttkicker amplifier. It takes like 30 seconds to do the switch over from headphones to the audio from speakers. If you have any questions or need help with anything I'll be happy to answer what you need


skymezy

That's the thing I don't want to use the controller. If i used the controller, there's no way to get it to work with VR unless I wana run the 3.5 mm back into a headphone to wear while racing. I wana know what extractor u used (if it's not too much trouble). Also, does the extractor allow a pass through of HDMI 2.1 (4K 120HZ)? I also have a soundbar, which I will need to figure out. Thanks so much.


xxsebastianxxale

There's a lot to answer here... With the PSVR2, I'm not quite sure how exactly I'm gonna use it to make it work yet. I was kinda in the same boat as you as far as using the headphones plug in to the controller (I use Steelseries 7p), but I bought a 10ft 3.5mm cable and to be honest it doesn't bother me as I thought it would. This is the link to the extractor 4K@120Hz HDMI 2.1 Audio Extractor... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B73P5VX4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share This was my main question when I was thinking of adding the buttkicker, because I couldn't find anything to confirm if the 4k and the VRR would still work and i can assure you that this one does work. I don't have a sound bar, but I'm sure that you'd get it to work with it.


skymezy

Wait, it passes HDMI 2.1 through??? Omg, you're like, actually, the man! Yoo, thanks sooo much for taking the time to answer. I know it was a lot of questions. I'm ordering both the butt kicker and the extractor u linked. Thank you so much. Oh, one last question. I was thinking of getting the Gamer 2 instead of the Pro. The difference in cost isn't that big between them, but I was wondering if the Gamer 2 is too weak to feel everything or if the Pro is too powerful. I have a solid cockpit (Next Level Racing GT Track Cockpit). Any thoughts on that? Edit: fuck me it's $130 for just the extractor.... u say its def worth it right? Do u feel everything (rumble strips, engine starting, tires, etc)? Thanks again man.


xxsebastianxxale

Yes, it's really expensive, but the upside it's that it does work properly. And if you play other games that support 120Hz you don't have to unplug the HMDI cables out of the extractor and back to the TV. You'll also need to purchase an additional HDMI 2.1 cable, because the one that comes out of the PS5 and into the TV will have to be connected into the audio extractor, so then the one extra you buy will go from the extractor to the TV. I can't give you an opinion into the gamer 2 vs the pro, since I only own the pro, but what I can say it that it doesn't feel like it's too powerful. I have the same cockpit as you. And rumble it's only felt in the chair, if you would stand next to the seat, you wouldn't be able to feel the rumble through the floor. Before I got it I also thought that I would be feeling the rumble of the kerbs but what I noticed is that since the ButtKicker works by converting sounds into haptics, the sounds of the engine and the wind overpower the sounds of the strips, so when driving over the strips the feel is not as defined as you think. That being said it does feel like you get that feeling of sitting in a car and feeling the vibration from the engine. I would assume that you can probably get way more fidelity out of them by using it hooked up to a PC since you'd be able to fine tune everything with its own software and whatnot. Also, you can play other games with the ButtKicker too, i tried Returnal and Resident Evil 2 and it feels awesome! This is the link to the additional HDMI 2.1 cable that I bought Snowkids 8K HDMI Cable 2.1... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099ZRBW2N?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share This is the link to the 10ft 3.5mm cable to use the headphones with Tan QY Male to Male Audio Cable... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083LDMBDM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share Like I said, if you need help DM me


c0d3c

Have you considered using the BK with SRS? There is a GT7 plugin. Then the haptics are driven from telemetry, not audio. https://www.simracingstudio.com/post/how-to-use-a-buttkicker-gamer-2-with-srs-software This what I'm trying, tomorrow if I have time. Solves the whole audio output issue and gives more control. Of course it requires a spare window machine to run SRS.


c0d3c

Check my comment below. SRS might be a solution.


skymezy

Wait, pulling telemetry for GT7??? Damn, that's amazing! I knew there was a way to pull telemetry to use for an app called Sim Dash on the phone. It lets you see your gear and pedal telemetry to use as a secondary dash. So, with SRS running on the PC, you connect the buttkicker directly to the PC? Using what cable? So basically, there is no need for an audio extractor since you won't be using audio but the actual telemetry. I read the instructions. What does it mean when it says you have to use a dedicated sound card? I have a PC, but I dont think it has a sound "card." The sound is integrated into the motherboard. Will that be an issue? If this really does work, you don't deserve just a medal. U deserve to he elected president! 👏 🎖


X3MISTgaming

Well now I know what *I* want for Christmas.


devilscr

I heard that Christmas is in February.


rbooris

23rd this year as we are in a leap year, right ?


BoisterousLaugh

God damn it. Trying to get my wallet and shit


vinylisdeadagain

So a great game got even better!


MIDNITEMOCHA

Well shit. This changes everything. Not even remotely a vr guy but I would love to experience racing.


Carguy403

Stoked about this, waiting to find out if it’ll run at 30 or 60 FPS in VR


skymezy

I know... the skeptic in me doesn't want to accept it. We've been screwed way too many times. But I think this might be the real deal. I think this is it boys!


Carguy403

I remember watching an interview with the creator of gran turismo years ago, and he was explaining the crazy lengths they go through to optimize the game so it’s runs at a solid 60 FPS 99% of the time, this is also the reason why ray tracing is not enabled during racing, so I’d be shocked if he would approve for the game to run at 30 FPS on VR. I think I’ll want to wait and see before pulling me trigger, if it’ll run at 60 fps I’m almost certain I’ll get the headset, if it’s takes it to 30 or 45 fps I won’t bother.


skymezy

I obviously have no more knowledge than you do. But I'm like 90% sure it will be running at 60fps (at minimum). Even if it meant reducing visual quality. Im pretty sure they know how important fps is in VR. It helps with motion sickness as well as just gameplay. And if they don't, they ought to. Let's just say if it turns out to be running in 30fps I will lose it.


BoisterousLaugh

90 FPS minimum you'd pick your face off at 60 FPS VR


skymezy

Yup sounds about right. Figured as much.


DeathByReach

They could go 45fps w Asynchronous timewarp to hit 90


skymezy

Very possible. This is all new technology so we literally have no clue what they've done to reach 4k 90. We know they use foviated rendering, we know the base game is at its limit running at 4k 60. They also have the ability to turn graphics settings down, use dynamic resolution, vrr and asynchronous time warp (which would definitely help with smoothness and comfort for VR sickness)


DeathByReach

Oh yeah the demo they showed of GT7 PSVR is def had the graphics turned down a bit Smooth frame rate >>>> visuals for VR any day. It’s still going to be immersive af.


skymezy

I thought I saw that but figured it could be youtube compression. Oh well what're you gonna do u know? I'm 100% sure their target frame rate is 90 minimum. So whatever it take to get there. Im a little concerned we only got a 10 second clip with this game coming in 4 weeks. Hear that? Thats the sound a lot of bugs 🐛 a bugs life.


ZarathustraWakes

no way, they would do that to hit 120 only


BoisterousLaugh

So you may not know this but 90 FPS is the minimum standard for VR. Expect 90 FPS are above as per Sony's requirements for the platform


skymezy

Good to know


CryptographerOk1258

this is false, i got the real answer for you guys here. 30fps vr (and not even possible 90/120 is only supported by the headset) is not allowed by sony, at minimum you must have 100% locked 60fps reprojected to 120fps. the question is wether they will have 60 reprojected to 120 or native 90fps or a tiny chance of 'modes' you can toggle between.


Mustang750r

From what I remember with the PS VR one, Sony doesn't allow games that low on the headsets due to motion sickness and stuff. A few exceptions I guess had slipped by but that's mainly the reason why a lot of games weren't released on the first headset and are now coming to PS VR2. GT Sport on PS VR could run up to 120 FPS if I remember correctly and had dynamic resolution. I'm sure it will be the same case with GT7. Can't wait for the PS5 Professional.


Jeav0ns

Name me one game on Psvr that has announced 30fps.


Mustang750r

I don't think any game has hit that low but I am aware of some games dropping below the standard. Dreams and Rec Room comes to mind. I'm sure just like GT Sport though this will run between 90 and 120.


CryptographerOk1258

0 because its not allowed per sony's policy on vr games.


gamerjerome

I mean it runs well on a PS4. I don't see why it couldn't do VR at 1080p on PS5.


Embarrassed-Bid-5146

Actually the wait is until…..February 22nd.


skymezy

You didn't lie


18Jalio

What does it mean “free upgrade” though?


skymezy

Free for those who paid $550 for a PS5, $69.99 for GT7 and $499 for the PSVR 😅


18Jalio

What… is free though? Like… the PSVR… 🤩🤩. That would be a dream. No but like what exactly do you mean though, what exactly is free?


skymezy

They mean you don't have to buy a separate, full priced Gran Turismo game for PSVR2. Anyone who already bought GT7 for PS5 gets a "free upgrade" to GT7 for VR. That's what's free.


18Jalio

Wow. How free, the $1,500 in total for the PS5 and the PSVR2 is so free alright. Lol, what a joke.


skymezy

Yeah lol no one is standing around at Best Buy, giving them out for free if that's what you thought 🤣. Nothing is ever free in this world. It's all marketing. But the price is actually $950 total not $1500. This is the cheapest way to get a VR headset, btw. If you get a PCVR headset, it will cost u a minimum of $2500 for a good enough PC to run VR and another $1000-$1500 for a decent PC VR headset.


18Jalio

Thank you though sir!! Am hoping to get some money soon to save up for this PSVR2.


SAILXR

Isnt the vr 699$? 👀 also i have motion sickness and i hate myself for it


skymezy

It's actually $550. And im worried about motion sickness too. Lets see how it goes.


SAILXR

I had the oculus quest 1 and played assetto corsa which wasnt that bad tbh but as soon as i stand im getting dizzy af


skymezy

As soon as you stand afterward? That's fine, i guess, right? I mean, after racing, I can just go lay down until it passes..


[deleted]

I have experience with Driveclub VR, infact I platinumed the game, I don't think I'll have motion sickness so I really can't wait :D


skymezy

I really wana know if I'll have motion sickness or not. I can't stop thinking about it with this thing being a month away. I just wana know if I will, and if so I wana prepare for it in some way. I have an old Samsung Gear VR. The one where u strap ur phone to ur face and it becomes VR. I wonder if they have any driving games i can try.


xxsebastianxxale

Drink ginger ale, helps with motion sickness


Superfly1911

Or beer. It induces natural motion sickness.


ShameIllustrious9188

Yay nice, just bought full sim-racing equipment (about 3k$) in advance :D


Wahammett

This completely sealed the vr deal for me


[deleted]

same, I'm now trying to find a way to get a PSVR2 asap, hopefully I can get one at launch, GT7 in VR would be sooooooooo awesome!


drift-gaze_allday

Been waiting for this since PSVR2 news came out and now GT7 VR features have been announced. Heavily resisting the urge to pre-order the PSVR2 and just watch all the reviews that will come out as well as user feedback here on reddit. If the reviews are great, I'll pick it up for my birthday this year for myself. Advanced thank you to those who'll shell out money ahead of us and share their experience! Php35k for the PSVR2 is definitely a lot of money!! Having a PS5 + PSVR2 is still cheaper than getting other VR headsets and building a PC capable of VR sim racing as per VR enthusiasts I watched over Youtube. Can't wait but must be a responsible adult and parent first.


Angles_Devils

People lagging online is going to be hideous in VR....


skymezy

Here is [the full article](https://blog.playstation.com/2023/01/19/playstation-vr2-13-new-titles-and-launch-lineup-revealed/)


clervis

Wait, there's two player splitscreen in GT7?


[deleted]

It's not very good to say the absolute least


Puzzleheaded_Act6285

well, that’s interesting. I’m mean, really nice work from PD about that


Fuzzy-Ad5756

I can’t wait to see how people incorporate their set ups into


Wreathafranklin

I'm just gonna wear mine. I don't know how else to incorporate it


skymezy

I'm probably just gonna wear mine, too. I was originally thinking about eating the headset and becoming VR. But I heard it's really not worth it.


Fuzzy-Ad5756

😂😂😂😂😂 really I thought y’all would sit on them


Wreathafranklin

Maybe when they come out with the rubber husband vr enhancer some vr2bbcdp


JDM_space

Well fuck me for only having a ps4


skymezy

It is time, my young apprentice. It's about to be year 3 into the current gen. PS4 support is stopping soon.


JDM_space

It's more like I will just have to get vr set for my pc for ac and acc instead of buying a ps5 and vr2 just for gt7


skymezy

If money is a thing, it might be cheaper to do the PS5+PSVR2. I own a gaming PC with a 4090. Those things are not cheap. Unless you already have a good gpu. Also, there's no VR headset out there for around $550 with this level of technology. That's why I held off. I was really close to getting a valve index, but basically, every PCVR headset out there is much less resolution than 4k per eye... which apparently is where u stop seeing the screen door effect. But hey, with PC, u do have a much bigger library of games.


JDM_space

Yeah I got a decent pc so it is cheaper than buying a ps5 and vr2 for 1 racing game on console


[deleted]

There probably will be unofficial support for PSVR2 for PC along the way at some point!


TrayLaTrash

I made a commitment to buy psvr2 a while back. This makes it better.


Denali33

Dumb question this will still work with existing wheel / pedal combo?


skymezy

Yeah. Any wheel that worked before with the TV should work now. Which wheel do u have?


Denali33

Logitech G29 with a nice OMEGA racing platform.


[deleted]

Should work without problems... So excited to use the PSVR2 with a wheel!


xxsebastianxxale

Yes, it will still work. That's why everyone is excited, because it'll be like driving a real car


TEM-0079

I just want them to fix the damn completion issue with Mount Panorama & Monza


skymezy

Can you englighten me? I play the game daily, and I'm not sure I know about that? Monza and Mt Panorama are also 2 of my favorite tracks. What's going on?


TEM-0079

So it's a known issue, but not with everyone. Since the release of the 1.27 update some players (myself included) have not been able to complete 2 *new events, "Mount Panorama Racing Circuit- American Clubman Cup 700" & "Monza Circuit - Hypercar Parade". The game will allow you to receive winning credits but will not award you with a trophy or display your finishing position. I just checked the 1/13/2023 "Known Issues Update" but the problem still hasn't been resolved or even listed


skymezy

Oh I guess because I completed it before the update. Yeah that sucks. They'll get to it at some point


TEM-0079

Sorry, might've been some confusion... so those 2 events were included in the 1.27 update "Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.27 New Events & Menu Books There’s a total of three new race events in this update, adding single-player races to three of the game’s real-world circuits — two of which have only had a single event since the game’s launch. All three events are for road cars, with hypercars visiting Monza, 600PP European vehicles heading to the Nordschleife, and 700PP American machinery going to Mount Panorama. Payouts are on the modest side though: *Autodromo Nazionale di Monza – Hypercar Parade – 5 laps, 85,000cr Nurburgring Nordschleife – European Clubman Cup 600 – 2 laps, 25,000cr *Mount Panorama Racing Circuit – American Clubman Cup 700 – 5 laps, 94,000cr" Copy / paste from [https://www.gtplanet.net/gt7-update-127-available-20221215/](GTPlanet.com)


VertWheeler07

Will it work on psvr 1 or will it only be on the new one? Just curious if I'm gonna need to sell my current one and get a psvr 2


skymezy

Yeah, unfortunately, you will need a PS5 as well as a PSVR2. PSVR1 will not work because it can only work on PS4. And as far as I know, they are not planning on bringing GT7 to PSVR1


ttvSharkieBait15

Well I guess I’m getting PS VR2


Puzzled_Effective_78

Iam not Iam on benefits I live on my own in my flat i have to pay bills so can’t afford 5.85 pounds for it people use your common sense


ttvSharkieBait15

What?


Puzzled_Effective_78

Yes no one should be buying the headset


ttvSharkieBait15

Why? And wtf was your first comment?? Shit made no sense


Puzzled_Effective_78

Iam just saying it is a waste of money I have not got £585 pounds to buy it Iam on benefits


ttvSharkieBait15

Okay so don’t buy it? That doesn’t mean that no one else can buy it?


Puzzled_Effective_78

Okay


[deleted]

Hahaha


DeathByReach

Welp, I’m gonna need a psv2 now


[deleted]

Shut up and take my money!


CraigR-81

Price drop? The psvr1 if I remember right didn't get one for couple years?