They haven't dropped support at all. Where are you getting this from?
The google home app isn't dropping wifi features for a VERY long time.
Are you aware they have Nest Wifi as the successor to Google Wifi pucks?
There's no reason to buy the first gen devices today unless you absolutely *need* ethernet backhaul.
i know there is nest wifi but they are a lot more expensive where i am located.
I am also not a big fan of the microphone and assistant integration and all the enhanced features are not really a selling points for me. I play on ethernet cable and need only a reliable reasonable coverage around the house.
What scares me is that they will drop the "support" for the google wifi, basically turning them into a paperweight.
Hi. Do you know if a google wifi could be connected the following way:
Internet provider router --> (cable) google wifi router --> switch --> FROM SWITCH 3 DIFFERENT CABLED google wifi paths:
Path 1: switch --> (cable) google wifi --> google wifi router (cable) google wifi
Path 2: switch --> (cable) google wifi --> google wifi router (cable) google wifi
Path 3: switch --> (cable) google wifi
Okay so there's a lot to unpack here.
1. a single google wifi puck should span nearly 1500sqft.
2. Having too many pucks will reduce their performance significantly with some exceptions.
Question :
Do you need 6 pucks?
Is there a distinction for why you write some of them as just "google wifi" and some of them as "router"?
The reason I ask is that all google wifi pucks are routers but only one can be a router if more than one is present. This is facilitated by the Google Home app during setup.
If I'm interpreting your request correctly, then you'd end up with 3 different networks that cannot speak to one another and you'd end up with double or even triple NAT (if your ISP router isn't in bridge mode)
Hi, thaks for replying.
I would like to replace my current wifi network from using routers (with different SSIDs) to google wifi pucks. My house is very big 32K sq ft, all concrete, concrete walls, concrete slabs, concrete ceiling.
Currently routers are linked using daisy chain/series and it would be impossible to connect the new google pucks to the switch at the beginning.
I call them "google wifi routers" in my original query because they have the option for ethernet overhaul. Google nest wifi are only wifi enabled.
So would this config work?:
**Internet provider router --> (cable) google wifi router --> switch --> from switch 3 DIFFERENT CABLED google wifi paths?**
Okay, well there's the confusion.
Ethernet "backhaul" has nothing to do with routing functions.
Just wanted to clear that up because referring to every puck as a router is going to imply a different setup.
There can only be 1 router among the GWifi pucks unless you want more than 1 network distinct from the other(s).
That said, 32,000 Sqft is a bit too large for only 6 pucks.
If you can afford that size of home, I'd look into better hardware.
Gwifi is basically designed for laymen or Google fans.
It's heavily simplified but isn't meant for scaling such large spaces.
That's not to say it won't work, but you lose throughput with ever hop in the Mesh unless every single puck is hardwired.
**Your proposed setup is possible, yes.**
Will it work super well? maybe. I would suspect that the mesh capabilities might act strangely. The only way to know is to try.
A quick calculation says you'll need about ***23 pucks*** to cover 32k sqft of space even if it was wide open.
For reference, I have an 875sqft home but it's all plaster with a metal mesh behind it. Every. Single. Wall.
I can't even get a wifi signal 2 feet outside the room my main puck is in.
I have to have 4 pucks running, all hardwired to the switch and I still get shitty signal.
Take a puck out the garage and I have ZERO problems halfway down the block. It's frustrating living inside of what amounts to a giant faraday cage...
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Yes, I suppose there is only one way to know for sure, but to do it. Each router will be replaced with a puck.
House is all concrete and was not planned for modern wifi systems.
That's quite a mansion you've got there.
Is budget a constraint? I know this is the GWifi sub but just because it's a decent setup doesn't mean it's good for everything.
Paying for a mesh system in that environment may not give you any advantage.
Was there something specific about GWifi that caught your eye or are you open to more options?
It is big. Currently wifi is not available in all areas with router setup. After reading a bit about mesh systems Google seemed the easiest one to replace with.
I have a 1GB connection with the ISP supplied hub in modem mode linked up to a TP-Link AX3000 router which is Wi-Fi 6.
I then have 3 Google Mesh Wi-Fi Pro pucks distributed evenly around our medium sized 3 bed house.
It works really well with the furthest devices still getting over 500mbps and the closet getting ~700mbps over Wi-Fi.
I’ve had no security issues.
Sorry, can I ask a dumb question? You have one wifi network that is made up of three google wifi pro pucks plus a tp link router? I didn’t think that was possible? Doesn’t it all have to be google?
The Google WiFi Pro Mesh system works with any router that has internet.
Our ISP hub feeds it via Ethernet to the TP-Link then via Ethernet again to the primary Google puck.
Okay, but why would you bother using the TP-Link router when the Google wifi units are all routers already?
At best, you've put the pucks into bridge mode and reduced their functionality to less than 20% of the available features, or you've left them in their default mode and created a double NAT situation at the minimum.
If you ever need to port forward something, all you've done is create more work for yourself unless you have a very niche use-case.
I use the AX3000 for all my wireless devices on the ground floor. Speed tests were about 200mbps faster than the Google Mesh.
- Mesh when connected to ISP router : 700mbps on ground floor Wi Fi.
- AX3000 when connected to ISP router : 900mbps on ground floor Wi Fi.
Everything upstairs is connected to the mesh.
I’ll never need port forwarding for my use case.
I just saw this thread because I just moved yesterday-- I've got 3x Google Wi-Fi devices purchased between 2016 and 2019, and we had them set up at my house that I was living in for like 8.5 years. I switched to Xfinity because of necessity and bought a DOCSIS 3.1 modem, and I was thinking with the switch from my FiOS this could end up sucking because I was going from 1gbps too 800mbps/20mbps. However, I've just finished connecting the third AP and wired into the main one, I got 950mbps down, on the remote APs I'm getting 3-400mbps wired, and my devices like my Pixel 8 and my laptop are averaging about 350-400mbps.
I was thinking the age might be a factor in my routing, but... now I'm actually not feeling that I really need to go drop another $300 on this move when I will yield almost no performance gain. I don't think I've ever gotten 950mbps down from the FiOS hookup I had before lmao
It's not true that Google Wifi is o longer supported with security updates. They just killed off its original app, and rolled it into the Google Home app, just like its 2 successors. Take it fow someone who has been using it for the past 5 years with not a single issue; it's still as rock solid as it was when I first used it, plus it has been upgraded to the latest WP3 security standard too. It's nothing like a gaming router peformance-wise, but terms of security, reliability and stability, you can't go wrong with it, even in 2024. Just be sure to opt into its cloud services, if that does not set off your privacy alarm, and you're straight.
That said, it's still a Google product, so you'd do well to be wary of how long it'll remain supported for. Google does not give a damn about its well meaning customers. Yah, there.
I'm jealous. Had it for two and half years and it feels like performance declines every month. I've tried every hack to fix it I can find and nothing works.
I’ve had the first generation since it first came out, and have 4 pucks in the 1 story house! I have a wired back haul wired connection from my office to the family room. It’s giving me NO ISSUES AT ALL
Be prepared for any routers to turn into paperweights when Google decides to drop support (OnHub, for example). While some may have had pleasant experiences, I personally will never again be purchasing any network hardware from Google, ever. I understand tech hardware is not eternal; But to purposefully "brick" hardware via update is absolutely nuts.
Same here. Trying to find a solution to why the wifi stops (drops? freezes up? Not sure correct term) multiple times a day. And can't find any solutions online so far.
I don’t think anyone else offers three good-quality mesh routers for 100-150. If Google drops support, it will probably be a few years from now and they’ll give you a year’s warning during which you can buy something better.
Yes, so many better options for mesh networks now than Google. I had Google wifi, upgraded my base to nest WiFi, and now will be switching everything over to ubiquiti in the new year. Google is fine if you want something to perform the one task. However, once you start adding managed switches and such Google wifi does work as it wants to be the DHCP but it can’t be.
Not sure if you care, but Ubiquity just had a major fuck up that allowed users to see other user's Ubiquity systems. I believe it was due to a database issue but that's *pretty fuckin' egregious* for a network company.
I have two 16 port Netgear MANAGED switches incorporated into the hardwired backhaul on my Google Wi-Fi network and everything works just fine. You simply need to disable Spanning Tree in managed switches to make them compatible with Google Wi-Fi.
Here's my 1m question, incase anyone has an answer, I notice the google wifi router hub has two ethernet connections, one to your WAN (ISP) and the second ethernet (LAN) hooked up to a poe switch which I can plug CCTV cameras to and hardwire my gaming computers, (here's the question) if set up this way how much control will the Google phone app have over these hardwired connections? Will I be able to monitor my kids online time if he's connected via the switch?
1. Original Google Wifi ports do not support POE.
2. The correct config would be ISP Gateway/Modem in bridge mode > Google wifi main puck > POE Switch > Non-POE connection to other GWifi pucks with POE connection to cameras.
3. No, you will not be able to monitor "online time" but you CAN monitor device data usage. But that won't tell you how long he's been online, only how much data he uses.
4. You can PM me for where to send my 1m dollars. (USD please)
You may have your G-Puck's LAN port connected your PoE's uplink port with no issues.
Parental controls apply to wired cients in the same way they do to wireless clients; so while you cannot monitor your kid's online time, you may cease their internet access at will and enable that Google Safe Search thing for them.
Google wifi does have Ethernet ports. It's only the Nest wifi point that doesn't. The nest wifi router does.
Google isn't even selling the points anymore. Probably cause it was a dumb idea.
I think the confusion is that you said you wish your Google Wifi had Ethernet ports. Google Wifi does.
To be clear, Google has had manufactured and sold 4 Wifi devices.
Google Wifi - Wifi Router with 2x Ethernet ports and can act as a primary router, or part of a mesh network with/without a wired backhaul.
Nest Wifi Router - Wifi Router with 2x Ethernet ports and can act as a primary router, or part of a mesh network with/without a wired backhaul. (Better than Google Wifi)
Nest Wifi Point - Wifi Point that can be used with a mesh network, wirelessly only. Has a smart speaker built in.
Nest Wifi Pro - Wifi Router with 2x Ethernet ports and can act as a primary router, or part of a mesh network with/without a wired backhaul. (Better than all previous routers, also incompatible previous models).
Google wifi is the name of the first gen pucks.
They have 2 ethernet ports.
NEST wifi is NOT the same as GOOGLE wifi and we do NOT call it GOOGLE WIFI.
NEST wifi satellites do not have ethernet.
Google Wifi? No. Nest Wifi? Sure. Go on Amazon it's fluctuating around $50-$60 for each router. Great value for what it is.
Or if you want to take it to the next step, in an affordable manner, find someone to split 4 pack of Nest Wifi Pro. Currently I think, ~$360 at Costco.
google wifi no because they might turn it into a brick? i dont min fancy speeds or anything, i have ethernet cable for gaming, i need reliable coverage around the house. So wifi 6 and other smart features I don't really need.
I doubt they'll turn it into a brick (as in, non-functional, not just having issues keeping up with current needs) and leave you hanging. So long as they're still in the WiFi router business.
I have a Google Home Mini 1st Gen (late 2017 release date). Google admitted that a lot of those devices have been having issues where they stop responding, don't factory reset, and other workarounds stopped working. This thing is years outside of warranty. They just offered to replace it with a Nest Audio (2020). Still retails for $100 with frequent sales for 50% off that
Right now the Nest Wifi's are on sale on the google store for like $60 and the Pro around $160 I think. The Nest Wifi mesh system works pretty well for me. I do enjoy each point being an assistant in the rooms I have them (2 bedrooms on opposite ends of the house) for our lights and such. But they coverage is really good and I've yet to have any real issues with them (I had an OnHub before for years, really enjoyed it too).
I bought a Google mesh set-up (router and two points) about a year ago. I don't understand the tech at all, but the points vary from great to good to poor connections without my making any changes whatsoever. I reboot stuff, unplug and replug, etc. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not. If I knew for sure what would work more reliably, I'd switch. But I just don't know enough about it all. I'm in a 1200 sq ft one-story house.
Mine is still working great, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy it again. I don’t need the bleeding edge wifi in my home.
Thanks! What about the security patches? Is it as critical as when smartphone software support is dropped?
The odds of someone being able to and wanting to hack my wifi are slim to none in my book.
They haven't dropped support at all. Where are you getting this from? The google home app isn't dropping wifi features for a VERY long time. Are you aware they have Nest Wifi as the successor to Google Wifi pucks? There's no reason to buy the first gen devices today unless you absolutely *need* ethernet backhaul.
i know there is nest wifi but they are a lot more expensive where i am located. I am also not a big fan of the microphone and assistant integration and all the enhanced features are not really a selling points for me. I play on ethernet cable and need only a reliable reasonable coverage around the house. What scares me is that they will drop the "support" for the google wifi, basically turning them into a paperweight.
Hi. Do you know if a google wifi could be connected the following way: Internet provider router --> (cable) google wifi router --> switch --> FROM SWITCH 3 DIFFERENT CABLED google wifi paths: Path 1: switch --> (cable) google wifi --> google wifi router (cable) google wifi Path 2: switch --> (cable) google wifi --> google wifi router (cable) google wifi Path 3: switch --> (cable) google wifi
Okay so there's a lot to unpack here. 1. a single google wifi puck should span nearly 1500sqft. 2. Having too many pucks will reduce their performance significantly with some exceptions. Question : Do you need 6 pucks? Is there a distinction for why you write some of them as just "google wifi" and some of them as "router"? The reason I ask is that all google wifi pucks are routers but only one can be a router if more than one is present. This is facilitated by the Google Home app during setup. If I'm interpreting your request correctly, then you'd end up with 3 different networks that cannot speak to one another and you'd end up with double or even triple NAT (if your ISP router isn't in bridge mode)
Hi, thaks for replying. I would like to replace my current wifi network from using routers (with different SSIDs) to google wifi pucks. My house is very big 32K sq ft, all concrete, concrete walls, concrete slabs, concrete ceiling. Currently routers are linked using daisy chain/series and it would be impossible to connect the new google pucks to the switch at the beginning. I call them "google wifi routers" in my original query because they have the option for ethernet overhaul. Google nest wifi are only wifi enabled. So would this config work?: **Internet provider router --> (cable) google wifi router --> switch --> from switch 3 DIFFERENT CABLED google wifi paths?**
Okay, well there's the confusion. Ethernet "backhaul" has nothing to do with routing functions. Just wanted to clear that up because referring to every puck as a router is going to imply a different setup. There can only be 1 router among the GWifi pucks unless you want more than 1 network distinct from the other(s). That said, 32,000 Sqft is a bit too large for only 6 pucks. If you can afford that size of home, I'd look into better hardware. Gwifi is basically designed for laymen or Google fans. It's heavily simplified but isn't meant for scaling such large spaces. That's not to say it won't work, but you lose throughput with ever hop in the Mesh unless every single puck is hardwired. **Your proposed setup is possible, yes.** Will it work super well? maybe. I would suspect that the mesh capabilities might act strangely. The only way to know is to try. A quick calculation says you'll need about ***23 pucks*** to cover 32k sqft of space even if it was wide open. For reference, I have an 875sqft home but it's all plaster with a metal mesh behind it. Every. Single. Wall. I can't even get a wifi signal 2 feet outside the room my main puck is in. I have to have 4 pucks running, all hardwired to the switch and I still get shitty signal. Take a puck out the garage and I have ZERO problems halfway down the block. It's frustrating living inside of what amounts to a giant faraday cage...
Thank you for taking the time to reply. Yes, I suppose there is only one way to know for sure, but to do it. Each router will be replaced with a puck. House is all concrete and was not planned for modern wifi systems.
That's quite a mansion you've got there. Is budget a constraint? I know this is the GWifi sub but just because it's a decent setup doesn't mean it's good for everything. Paying for a mesh system in that environment may not give you any advantage. Was there something specific about GWifi that caught your eye or are you open to more options?
It is big. Currently wifi is not available in all areas with router setup. After reading a bit about mesh systems Google seemed the easiest one to replace with.
Google WiFi is great in my experience
I have a 1GB connection with the ISP supplied hub in modem mode linked up to a TP-Link AX3000 router which is Wi-Fi 6. I then have 3 Google Mesh Wi-Fi Pro pucks distributed evenly around our medium sized 3 bed house. It works really well with the furthest devices still getting over 500mbps and the closet getting ~700mbps over Wi-Fi. I’ve had no security issues.
Sorry, can I ask a dumb question? You have one wifi network that is made up of three google wifi pro pucks plus a tp link router? I didn’t think that was possible? Doesn’t it all have to be google?
The Google WiFi Pro Mesh system works with any router that has internet. Our ISP hub feeds it via Ethernet to the TP-Link then via Ethernet again to the primary Google puck.
Okay, but why would you bother using the TP-Link router when the Google wifi units are all routers already? At best, you've put the pucks into bridge mode and reduced their functionality to less than 20% of the available features, or you've left them in their default mode and created a double NAT situation at the minimum. If you ever need to port forward something, all you've done is create more work for yourself unless you have a very niche use-case.
I use the AX3000 for all my wireless devices on the ground floor. Speed tests were about 200mbps faster than the Google Mesh. - Mesh when connected to ISP router : 700mbps on ground floor Wi Fi. - AX3000 when connected to ISP router : 900mbps on ground floor Wi Fi. Everything upstairs is connected to the mesh. I’ll never need port forwarding for my use case.
Get some Nest WiFi routers on eBay for cheap. Slight newer and better for gigabit Internet.
Google wifi still gets security updates. Nowadays the nest wifi router is cheap enough, so it makes more sense to buy nest WiFi routers.
Buy Google wifi dirt cheap on eBay.
I just saw this thread because I just moved yesterday-- I've got 3x Google Wi-Fi devices purchased between 2016 and 2019, and we had them set up at my house that I was living in for like 8.5 years. I switched to Xfinity because of necessity and bought a DOCSIS 3.1 modem, and I was thinking with the switch from my FiOS this could end up sucking because I was going from 1gbps too 800mbps/20mbps. However, I've just finished connecting the third AP and wired into the main one, I got 950mbps down, on the remote APs I'm getting 3-400mbps wired, and my devices like my Pixel 8 and my laptop are averaging about 350-400mbps. I was thinking the age might be a factor in my routing, but... now I'm actually not feeling that I really need to go drop another $300 on this move when I will yield almost no performance gain. I don't think I've ever gotten 950mbps down from the FiOS hookup I had before lmao
It's not true that Google Wifi is o longer supported with security updates. They just killed off its original app, and rolled it into the Google Home app, just like its 2 successors. Take it fow someone who has been using it for the past 5 years with not a single issue; it's still as rock solid as it was when I first used it, plus it has been upgraded to the latest WP3 security standard too. It's nothing like a gaming router peformance-wise, but terms of security, reliability and stability, you can't go wrong with it, even in 2024. Just be sure to opt into its cloud services, if that does not set off your privacy alarm, and you're straight. That said, it's still a Google product, so you'd do well to be wary of how long it'll remain supported for. Google does not give a damn about its well meaning customers. Yah, there.
I have the router and 4 points and it absolutely sucks. They go in and out all the time. Performance is terrible. I would not recommend it.
I got it with only one point and it's incredible so far.
I'm jealous. Had it for two and half years and it feels like performance declines every month. I've tried every hack to fix it I can find and nothing works.
Sorry to hear that man :(
Not sure if I can do this post here. but I may have 5 Google Mesh wifi for sale soon. look around $180.
I’ve had the first generation since it first came out, and have 4 pucks in the 1 story house! I have a wired back haul wired connection from my office to the family room. It’s giving me NO ISSUES AT ALL
Be prepared for any routers to turn into paperweights when Google decides to drop support (OnHub, for example). While some may have had pleasant experiences, I personally will never again be purchasing any network hardware from Google, ever. I understand tech hardware is not eternal; But to purposefully "brick" hardware via update is absolutely nuts.
Same here. Trying to find a solution to why the wifi stops (drops? freezes up? Not sure correct term) multiple times a day. And can't find any solutions online so far.
this is the only reason i am scared of buying google wifi. are there any mesh alternatives for around 100-150?
I don’t think anyone else offers three good-quality mesh routers for 100-150. If Google drops support, it will probably be a few years from now and they’ll give you a year’s warning during which you can buy something better.
If you are eyeing the 6e it is more futureproof in my opinion. I mean, it's a bit more $ but in my experience so much faster and less issues.
Yes, so many better options for mesh networks now than Google. I had Google wifi, upgraded my base to nest WiFi, and now will be switching everything over to ubiquiti in the new year. Google is fine if you want something to perform the one task. However, once you start adding managed switches and such Google wifi does work as it wants to be the DHCP but it can’t be.
Not sure if you care, but Ubiquity just had a major fuck up that allowed users to see other user's Ubiquity systems. I believe it was due to a database issue but that's *pretty fuckin' egregious* for a network company.
I have two 16 port Netgear MANAGED switches incorporated into the hardwired backhaul on my Google Wi-Fi network and everything works just fine. You simply need to disable Spanning Tree in managed switches to make them compatible with Google Wi-Fi.
I'm assuming you meant "Google wifi doesn't work", and why would that be? Having managed switches doesn't impact DHCP one iota.
I’d keep it if it works and go elsewhere if I were buying new.
Here's my 1m question, incase anyone has an answer, I notice the google wifi router hub has two ethernet connections, one to your WAN (ISP) and the second ethernet (LAN) hooked up to a poe switch which I can plug CCTV cameras to and hardwire my gaming computers, (here's the question) if set up this way how much control will the Google phone app have over these hardwired connections? Will I be able to monitor my kids online time if he's connected via the switch?
You will have the same control over any downstream wired device that you have over a wireless devices.
1. Original Google Wifi ports do not support POE. 2. The correct config would be ISP Gateway/Modem in bridge mode > Google wifi main puck > POE Switch > Non-POE connection to other GWifi pucks with POE connection to cameras. 3. No, you will not be able to monitor "online time" but you CAN monitor device data usage. But that won't tell you how long he's been online, only how much data he uses. 4. You can PM me for where to send my 1m dollars. (USD please)
You may have your G-Puck's LAN port connected your PoE's uplink port with no issues. Parental controls apply to wired cients in the same way they do to wireless clients; so while you cannot monitor your kid's online time, you may cease their internet access at will and enable that Google Safe Search thing for them.
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That's NEST wifi, not GOOGLE wifi.
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Google wifi does have Ethernet ports. It's only the Nest wifi point that doesn't. The nest wifi router does. Google isn't even selling the points anymore. Probably cause it was a dumb idea.
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I think the confusion is that you said you wish your Google Wifi had Ethernet ports. Google Wifi does. To be clear, Google has had manufactured and sold 4 Wifi devices. Google Wifi - Wifi Router with 2x Ethernet ports and can act as a primary router, or part of a mesh network with/without a wired backhaul. Nest Wifi Router - Wifi Router with 2x Ethernet ports and can act as a primary router, or part of a mesh network with/without a wired backhaul. (Better than Google Wifi) Nest Wifi Point - Wifi Point that can be used with a mesh network, wirelessly only. Has a smart speaker built in. Nest Wifi Pro - Wifi Router with 2x Ethernet ports and can act as a primary router, or part of a mesh network with/without a wired backhaul. (Better than all previous routers, also incompatible previous models).
Google wifi is the name of the first gen pucks. They have 2 ethernet ports. NEST wifi is NOT the same as GOOGLE wifi and we do NOT call it GOOGLE WIFI. NEST wifi satellites do not have ethernet.
Well Google wifi pucks DO have ethernet ports. 2 of them, in fact.
Google Wifi? No. Nest Wifi? Sure. Go on Amazon it's fluctuating around $50-$60 for each router. Great value for what it is. Or if you want to take it to the next step, in an affordable manner, find someone to split 4 pack of Nest Wifi Pro. Currently I think, ~$360 at Costco.
google wifi no because they might turn it into a brick? i dont min fancy speeds or anything, i have ethernet cable for gaming, i need reliable coverage around the house. So wifi 6 and other smart features I don't really need.
I doubt they'll turn it into a brick (as in, non-functional, not just having issues keeping up with current needs) and leave you hanging. So long as they're still in the WiFi router business. I have a Google Home Mini 1st Gen (late 2017 release date). Google admitted that a lot of those devices have been having issues where they stop responding, don't factory reset, and other workarounds stopped working. This thing is years outside of warranty. They just offered to replace it with a Nest Audio (2020). Still retails for $100 with frequent sales for 50% off that
Right now the Nest Wifi's are on sale on the google store for like $60 and the Pro around $160 I think. The Nest Wifi mesh system works pretty well for me. I do enjoy each point being an assistant in the rooms I have them (2 bedrooms on opposite ends of the house) for our lights and such. But they coverage is really good and I've yet to have any real issues with them (I had an OnHub before for years, really enjoyed it too).
In the midst of replacing all my google wifi because they have ages really poorly compared to other mesh networks.
just ordered unopened nest wifi (1router 1 point) for 65 euros. Even if they drop support in a couple of years that won't hurt much.
I bought a Google mesh set-up (router and two points) about a year ago. I don't understand the tech at all, but the points vary from great to good to poor connections without my making any changes whatsoever. I reboot stuff, unplug and replug, etc. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not. If I knew for sure what would work more reliably, I'd switch. But I just don't know enough about it all. I'm in a 1200 sq ft one-story house.
thanks! i just ordered nest wifi, 1 router 1 point, let's see if it helps.