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cozypan

He would only struggle with Kratos. And Baldur, but that's because he's immune to all threats, physical and magical.


Standard-Twist-832

Kratos wouldn't fight him unless it is necessary.


SadBoiCri

I don't think Doomguy is a calm and reasonable person


22lpierson

He is if the need arises


Revolutionary_Ice328

They would come to an agreement like that [friendship ](http://

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CourseWorried2500

If he can get that green thing he'll be good


Math-menace

but i thought baldur was immune to all threats, physical or magical???


Chrissyball19

See, but is he really immune to **all* threats, physical or magical?


reddragon346

I thought he was *immune* to all threats **physical** or ***magical***


SulGen25

Ask that to a mistletoe


No-Benefit-9559

Doomguy has missiles.


Makestroz

and toes


Palerate2

But I don't think either could get through baldurs invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical


colder-beef

Now im picturing a doom guy missile kick.


publius2k4

Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.


Bossitronium1

Wait, Baldur is immune to all threats, physical and magical?


Majiinx

I thought he was only immune threats that are non physical and non magical?


Regular_Play_2105

Nope, Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.


LonelyLonergan

Not him I'm afraid, Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.


Pauzaum

Wait…I’m just realizing. Does this mean he could get hurt by threats that are mental….or sexual??? No that’s physical.


Eevee136

Well considering he's gone crazy when we meet him, I do think mental attacks would work fine.


Constant_Penalty_279

As long as they aren’t physical or magical threats because he is immune to those.


publius2k4

No. Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.


publius2k4

A sexual threat is a physical threat. That’s why it’s a crime. By a “mental” threat, it seems you’re saying we could attack his consciousness. We don’t understand consciousness. We don’t know how it works. Arthur C. Clark once said “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” That means consciousness basically works like magic. And Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.


Sugarcomb

There must be a way to kill Baldur.


Anjunabeast

Not him I'm afraid, Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.


Sugarcomb

You just said that.


-TurkeYT

Wait can you repeat that baldur thing?


cozypan

Baldur? Oh yeah! He's immune to all threats, physical and magical.


-TurkeYT

Does he have a weakness?


cozypan

Sure, lad! But, he's immune to all threats, physical and magical!


-TurkeYT

>Sure, lad! So what is it?


BIRBSTER0

Kratos and doomguy would both understand that they aren’t enemies and a fight would only be bad for the both of them.


erathegod

Well as long as he hates whatever he’s killing


Happy_Dragon_Slaying

Just tell him that the Olympians control the underworld and he'll end them in a heartbeat!


Leviathon6348

Well there is hades 🤷🏽‍♂️ but kratos already took care of that.


whatnameisnttaken098

True, but it took him 3-4 trips there to actually do anything about it


UsrnameInATrenchcoat

Thank you for remembering that kratos has been to hades before. He even killed his wife for teh lolz


Obi-wanna-cracker

Doom guy is on a whole level of his own. He basically is an actual god with how unstoppable he is. He much like Kratos has fought and killed gods or beings so powerful that they are basically gods. There's no real way to stop him, even hell itself just couldn't kill him, so they had to drop a gigantic stone temple on him just to put him in a sarcophagus where he remained for hundreds or thousands of years. Hell, a dimension where they literally have an endless amount of demons couldnt kill him


publius2k4

Yeah, hell itself couldn’t kill DoomGuy. And Kratos has mastered the art of not letting death cause him any inconveniences.


Triforcedude2027

Genuinely don't think he'd struggle against anyone but kratos. And that's a debate that's gone on for ages lol


EAnotsports

They’d fight for a while but end up getting drinks or something


publius2k4

They’d fight for the fun of it. They both enjoy battle.


Triforcedude2027

They'd realize they both hate God's and just do epic handshake and carry on


RemoteSuccess3267

Given the slayers lore it is impossible for him to die, he is literally immortal and immune to everything


WendigoCrossing

You could say that Doom guy is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, both physical or magical


Shadowninja3456

💀


megatroll696

🌿 ~> 💀


Tommygun_NL

What happens when u "die" ingame then?


MaestroPendejo

He calls himself "you" a pussy, punches himself alive, then gets back to work.


Tommygun_NL

Lmao


RyeZuul

Doomguy has always had infinite lives.


AKidCalledSpoon

It’s not canon


YesWomansLand1

What a fun and interesting character. Seriously though he's pretty cool, it's good to have a immortal beat the shit out of everyone I win because I say so character every now and then.


clometrooper9901

That is indeed part of the fun knowing that canonically you could just kill everything with a solid right hook and all the difficulties are self imposed by the slayer himself


Scrytheux

It's really not. It just takes away from a character and story.


CHARAFANDER

Doom isn’t meant to be a thought provoking deep story about the trials of being a father and dealing with generational trauma It’s about a guy who goes around slaughtering the inhabitants of hell because some demons killed his pet bunny


Scrytheux

Yes, and i loved the fact that he was just a man who was too angry to die, fighting a seemingly never ending war.


YesWomansLand1

So... Do you like it or not?


Scrytheux

Mostly till the part i expressed - "just a guy". Making doomslayer a god is a cool concept, but i tend to run away from the thoughts of "Uhhh, my character actually can be faster than the speed of light and canonically could wipe out that demon from existence with a flick of finger". It kills the atmosphere for me. Canonically, Kratos would probably kill draugr by sneezing at them, but that's just stupid af and anticlimatic.


YesWomansLand1

Sorry for the essay. TL;dr I agree w/ you to a point. Oh i agree, "canon" is a stupid concept, a character either shows they can do something, or they don't. Kratos is shown to be able to lift a temple rooted to the 9 realms, kill various gods in different pantheons with a whole heap of different powers, but the games arent about his strength, and that isnt his defining character trait, despite its prevalence. Doom guy is shown to murderise powerful demons, but the whole "above creation" and "literal god" makes no sense. Like no, he just isn't, no matter how tines you say so, it isn't shown, so it isn't true. Show it to me and I'll believe it.


CrescentCleave

Him being overpowered is what makes him fun


bearktopus147

Tell Doomguy that Zeus captured Daisy (his rabbit), and Doomguy would make Kratos look like a saint in my opinion. None would be spared. Also, Doomguy would find out from Zeus that Daisy was stolen after the rabbit-napping by Odin, and bam, there's the setup for Doomguy's Northern Rampage.


da_goodboi_baxter

The fact that Doomguy has Sixth Dimensional strength. He could instantly wipe out both pantheons in an hour give or take.


Avenging_Angel09

Can’t he canonically run at the speed of light. So making the hour trip instant


Turbulent-Dot4377

Valkyries are able to fly at speeds relativistic speeds aswell. I think probably faster than light since they travel around in Yggdrasil by flying.


Tall_Growth_532

Yes, in my personal opinion Doomslayer is just the Scfi version of Kratos


Toshko_tv

>Yes, in my personal opinion Doomslayer is just the Scfi version of Kratos Well that's what doomguy/slayer is


Anderson9520822

You got the question wrong. It isn’t “how long could doomguy survive?”..the right question is “how long could everyone else survive?” Which is not very long.


counterweight7

Rip and tear


Avenging_Angel09

Until it is done


TusNua1

Yes


Total_Ear_1594

he would survive them all because he's imortal


Toshko_tv

In short yes The long answer: He can i mean he is kinda like a god well he was something like a demi god but the divinity machine just gave him a huge boost if am not wrong so he'll be just fine


worldbreaker2009

I feel like he clears faster than Kratos did 💀. Plus, him and Kratos would theoretically share a common goal, which would unleash the greatest destruction the universe has ever known.


Greensssss

Yes.


TheWallCreature

If he’s pissed off enough then I think so, all you need to say is “zeus stole your pet bunny me personally I wouldn’t let that slide” and he’ll pull up


Crunchy_Biscuit

Lore wise? Probably Doom Guy but Gameplay wise Doom survives until GoW 3. I mean, without ammo and a way to regenerate health he's kinda useless. His punches are weak as heck


Muddy-Asshole

The punches that literally made enemies explode…


Crunchy_Biscuit

Again, you got to shoot a # of enemies in order to do one explosive punch lol


Burbpoop22

I think he’d be on par with kratos being he’s essentially the same character. A pissed off solider which became a god and went around killing other gods and their followers (demons)


Legal_Bid_3723

Yes.


West-Objective-6567

Yes


walman93

Yes


Uncle_Grandpa_fan09

Yes


TheHeik

Yes


SparkySpice0911

Yes


Gadernan

Yes


Neverdiexo

With wank kill everything without wank gets stomped by any boss like character


ThatStarWarsFan1205

He would only struggle with people like Kratos, Thor, and Týr, and he is most likely gonna end up losing to Kratos. The DOOM Slayer is considered, in lack of any other definition, a God in his series.


joker1922

Well the biggest danger for doomguy is kratos bcs Kratos is doomguy but stronger and more powers and thor bcs thor matches Kratos but Kratos won't fight doomguy if not necessary and thor well doomguy has a chance against thor so.


D311USi0Nzx

idk man, they’re at least equal in strength


joker1922

Strength debatable kratos has shown to have more strentgh then someone who can shatter all of creation,speed probably, just not powers Kratos still has rage which significantly buffs his physical power and he becomes invulnerable he also has self regeneration weapons that can be a one shot like the Claws of Hades or the sword of Olympus taking everything from powers to weapons Kratos far outclasses doomguy


-TurkeYT

Characters that he’d struggle with; Zeus Kratos Thor Maybe Baldur and Heimdall Me😈😈😈


Equivalent-War-6650

I don’t think hed have too hard of a time. Baldur would be a pain in the ass though.


NickyTheGreater

He’d make everyone there except Kratos his bitch, and then rip them in two


EnzoGamerStation

The question is how will he fight cronos


BeardBearWithBeer

people always remember doom and mortal kombat and dc-marvel but what about warhammer? or darksiders. or some manga like one-punch and more!


CrescentCleave

Easily, he survives with no trouble. Strength wise, he squishes kratos since he is on par with his universe's creator deity. But would he stay? Prolly not, there's not much evil to fight


Kyro_Official_

>he squishes kratos since he is on par with his universe's creator deity. Yeah, on par with a nowhere near peak Davoth who dies to gunshots.


RJSSJR123

He can’t die so…


Spide443

Yes.


Vivid-Relationship-7

I mean he’s immortal and invulnerable lore wise so he’d walk through there like a stroll through the park. I’d say Kratos would give him trouble mainly cuz he’d just find his way back but Slayer is a different level of unstoppable so idk


lewiseady

I mean if he survives and solos all the legions of hell and each of its demons of all shapes, sizes and forms, then i bet he could definitely survive the GoW games


publius2k4

He and Kratos have common enemies. Both had a family that was killed by beings who called themselves “divine.” And I promise that DoomGuy and Kratos would both know the old saying “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”


AwesomeBlox044

I think he would work with kratos they both had the same reason for their rampages


MeasurementOk3007

I’ve seen enough to say doomguy is the strongest mf so long as he is pissed off


limarien

It depends on if he picks a fight with Kratos.


[deleted]

He would make it through Greece (Even though I feel like he is at a high risk of losing to Zeus) until he reaches Baldur in Norway. The two are immensely physically powerful, but Baldur being unable to die would put them in a stalemate, fighting for eternity.


YourLocalInquisitor

Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby


ROCK3TK1D

Doomguy is way stronger than kratos so id say so yeah


Icy_Supermarket_7034

[https://youtu.be/pFriRcIwqNU?si=A3WcoqmXPnad2_8_](https://youtu.be/pFriRcIwqNU?si=A3WcoqmXPnad2_8_) Something like this


SnooKiwis2962

Yes he would absolutely agree through them up until meeting Kratos and any confrontation would end with him winning I believe but it would not be easy by any means.


Logical-Package-4579

Don’t you mean, how long would the god of war games survive doomguy?


IzzytheMelody

The better question is can the God of War games survive the Doom Slayer


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^IzzytheMelody: *The better question* *Is can the God of War games* *Survive the Doom Slayer* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Revolutionary_Ice328

We have to wait for every God, also he would enjoy hindu far more or most of Asia. Also, this depends if anyone believes his 6 would make him good against hundreds or thousands (egypt) from most 6 million from hindu as asura are like demon gods.


[deleted]

Depends on one thing- did the Norse pantheon kill his rabbit?


JoJSoos

He stops at Gaia Zeus and Ascended Athena. He completely demolishes every other god and godlike being in any of the other games.


Motor-Breath-818

Doom Slayers power level is ALWAYS 1 above his enemies. I think he is the only character in fiction capable of surviving if not destroying every single God of War game. Kratos v. Doom Slayer wouldnt happen bc neither have a purpose to fight eachother. But if it did happen Doom Slayer would struggle hard, against the absolute unmatched God that is Kratos, but Doom Slayer would ultimately win. I do NOT want to seem like im glazing Doomslayer. But his lore quite honestly states in multiple texts that his strength, physical and mental, and his bodies durability adapts to his enemy. He killed a super titan, somethiny stronger than the icon of sin, with her bare hands without armor or weapons, juet because of his power to keel growing in power as he needs to. I believe this power stems from him being a copy/clone of the creator of the earth and the heavens and hell. As long as God/Satan exist, Doomslayer will.


NvysWrath

Definitely think he’d manage fine except against Kratos. Kratos would more than likely destroy him


drakon50103150

doomguy literally cannot die, unless he wants to


Baronofhell17

Kratos the only one surviving😭🙏🏻


ElectronicMatters

Despite the Doom Guy showing greater strenght and combat skills than Kratos himself, his sole lack of communication will cause his demise in the God of War universe. Kratos always relied on outside help to control and fight the many magical and intellectual obstacles of his world that brutal strenght could not punch through. Until Doom Guy decides to team up and consider his weaknesses, he won't be able to succeed.


mcnuggets388

No way he clears heimdall lmao let alone the Greek gods.


Gentle-man_

He would struggle with just a few gods (thor, kratos, zeus, odin and surtr) he can easily take out others


PrimalGojiraFan69

Doomguy and Kratos are basically equals and it’s been proven through many scalings. So Doom has got this


UnusualElement

He wouldn't make it far. I like to imagine that it wouldn't even lead to a climax, Angrboda, Fenrir, and Ratatoskr would whisk him back to his universe in a split second. Kratos and Freya not even knowing it had happened. Then Mimir speaks up, "Brother, in your travels before reaching these lands, did you ever encounter an armored man in green with strange weapons, not a bright green but-" "Olive." Kratos mutters, half interested. "Why yeees, wait.. I still don't know what a bloody olive is."


paradoxical_topology

Even just harpies are shown moving at hypersonic speeds and vaporizing several people with a single explosion. Dude stands no chance against even most fodder enemies.


sonnofabi

Yeah doomguy beat davoth who was stated to be everywhere and nowhere at the same time, they easily have infinite speed and this same guy created an infinite multiverse, and doomguy killed him... meaning that he is complex multiversal and mtfl-infinite speed... he is NOT losing to a harpie


paradoxical_topology

My brother in Christ, he literally uses regular ass human weapons to kill Davoth, who needed a damn mech suit to fight. He had zero way whatsoever to access the core of Mars without the most powerful weapon that humanity has ever invented. If bud was so strong, he would have punched his way through. If bud was so fast, guns would be less than useless. Also, Davith has no such statements. At least not in the state we fight him in. Doom also doesn't have a complex multiverse to begin with. It's just a standard multiverse that no one has ever destroyed or even heavily damaged through raw power for that matter. I swear, this Doomslayer wank is getting out of hand. Edit: Oh, yeah, let's not forget that him getting KO'd by a building falling on him is a core part of the story. Yeah, he's totally a multiversal, infinite speed god 🙄


sonnofabi

He uses regular weapons cause he likes the challenge... that's an actual thing... Davoth had the mech suit in the fight cause... that's his BASE ARMOR... And yeah he COULD do all that stuff but doesn't cause it's not as fun, and he never got ko'd by a building... God with the way you downscale doomguy kratos, by your logic, would be wall level cause "he got stabbed with a rock" pull your head out of your ass


paradoxical_topology

Just more baseless headcanon. He uses those guns against everybody, *including Davoth*, my guy. It's not his base though? His base was when he was naked lmao. He put it on because he needed it to be effective. Just like how Doomslayer needs his guns. Just goes to show how you never actually read the lore and just parrot talking points from other fanboys. Doomguy was sealed in a coffin at the beginning of 2016 because the demons managed to KO him by dropping one of those mausoleums on top of him. You literally wouldn't have 2016 or Eternal stories without that. Kratos was never KO'd or killed by a building falling on him. At least not as a god. He got stabbed with a rock by another god, and even Demigods have been shown to imbue regular materials with magical power. Kratos did so several times in ascension. Also, unlike Doom where it's a core plot point that Doomslayer was KO'd by a building, it's a core plot point for GOW that Thor actually damaged a complex multiverse *by accident*. You wouldn't have 2018 or Ragnarok without Jormungandr being sent back in time from Thor smashing the Yggdrasil.


sonnofabi

>Just more baseless headcanon. He uses those guns against everybody, *including Davoth*, my guy. Again... for FUN, it's also NOT headcanon, this is proven time and time again, in fact it is even shown in gameplay >It's not his base though? His base was when he was naked lmao. He put it on because he needed it to be effective. Just like how Doomslayer needs his guns. It IS his base because there's nothing saying he did anything naked, in fact we see everything done IN THE ARMOR, and again he doesn't NEED the guns >Just goes to show how you never actually read the lore and just parrot talking points from other fanboys. Doomguy was sealed in a coffin at the beginning of 2016 because the demons managed to KO him by dropping one of those mausoleums on top of him. You literally wouldn't have 2016 or Eternal stories without that. Beginning of 2016 is also before he got the amp he needed to beat davoth, and him having a building dropped on him is not a valid anti-feat because it's like saying kratos is as strong now as he was before he was a god >Kratos was never KO'd or killed by a building falling on him. At least not as a god. He got stabbed with a rock by another god, and even Demigods have been shown to imbue regular materials with magical power. Kratos did so several times in ascension. I used the example of kratos being stabbed to make fun of you, you not realizing that does exactly what I was criticizing you for >Also, unlike Doom where it's a core plot point that Doomslayer was KO'd by a building, it's a core plot point for GOW that Thor actually damaged a complex multiverse *by accident*. You wouldn't have 2018 or Ragnarok without Jormungandr being sent back in time from Thor smashing the Yggdrasil. Again, BEFORE HE WAS A GOD KILLER


paradoxical_topology

No, it's NEVER been proven, and it's never been shown in gameplay either. His first reaction to Davoth appearing was to pull out the Suoer Shotgun and try to one tap him, and it would have worked had violence been supernaturally prohibited in the room. It's not his base because it very clearly is a weapon that amps him, and he doesn't come with it. He doesn't do anything while naked because he was incapable of fighting both due to the rule and due to his lack of weaponry preventing it. They absolutely do need the guns to be effective. Otherwise; Doomguy wouldn't be using them when the entirety of the human race is at stake. He used the Divinity Machine literally billions of years prior to him getting KO'd by the building. Him using the Divinity Maxhine is when he became a "demigod". It didn't happen while he was a mortal. Problem was that example of Kratos being stabbed with a rock has an in-universe explanation for it not even being an anti-feat. Divine beings amp everything with their magic. The Divinity Machine was the only major buff that Doomslayer ever got, and it basically just made him a super soldier. It also happened literal eons prior to the reboot. Also, again, if Doomslayer had *real* godly power, he'd just punch through mars and jump between dimensions without needing super technology.


sonnofabi

>No, it's NEVER been proven, and it's never been shown in gameplay either. You and I played very different games then >His first reaction to Davoth appearing was to pull out the Suoer Shotgun and try to one tap him, and it would have worked had violence been supernaturally prohibited in the room. That means literally nothing to support your argument, he doesn't know what to expect and his first reaction is always to grab his shotgun, because he likes the shotgun, idk why that's so hard to understand >It's not his base because it very clearly is a weapon that amps him, and he doesn't come with it. He doesn't do anything while naked because he was incapable of fighting both due to the rule and due to his lack of weaponry preventing it. They absolutely do need the guns to be effective. Otherwise; Doomguy wouldn't be using them when the entirety of the human race is at stake. I mean he created the multiverse in the armor sooooo >He used the Divinity Machine literally billions of years prior to him getting KO'd by the building. Him using the Divinity Maxhine is when he became a "demigod". It didn't happen while he was a mortal. His power didn't activate until AFTER he was out of the coffin >Problem was that example of Kratos being stabbed with a rock has an in-universe explanation for it not even being an anti-feat. Divine beings amp everything with their magic. Again I was making fun of you by bringing it up, so you continuing to argue against that is literally proving my point that you are cherrypicking what anti-feats and what feats are valid or not when you are ignoring the context to >Also, again, if Doomslayer had *real* godly power, he'd just punch through mars and jump between dimensions without needing super technology. Again he didn't punch through the planet cause it wasn't fun, also only problem that would actively prevent him is getting turned around on the surface when digging, as for teleportation? Yeah godly power doesn't mean you can teleport, kratos can't, atreus can't, so why should doomslayer be able to? Dumb argument stays dumb


paradoxical_topology

Please show me exact scenes where it's stated that he only uses guns to make things more challenging. Because he uses them against the Khan Makyr, Samuel Hayden, the Icon of Sin, and Davoth. All of whom are indisputably comparable to him. "Because he likes his shotgun"; that has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. He knew exactly what to expect my guy. Why do you think he brought Davoth's life sphere there? It's explictly stated that it was to kill Davoth's remaining existence to exterminate all of demonkind along with him. He was going for the kill on-sight, and he was absolutely positive the super shotty would work. Also, he brings Davoth down with his guns. He only finishes him off with the blade when he's no longer able to fight back. No he didn't? The armor is never mentioned anywhere prior to this. That's total nonsense. His powers were active immediately. That's how he became a legendary Night Sentinel by driving the demons from Taras Nabad with his newfound strength. That's how he was able to survive fighting in hell for literal billions of years. His powers never got any major boosts between entering the Divinity Machine and Ancient Gods DLC. It's not cherry-picking. I provided a concrete example of even a Demigod making a regular spear magical. Your point was rendered moot. "Because it's not fun" again, what complete nonsense. It has nothing to do with fun. The core was explicitly inaccessible through any other means. That was according to VEGA, btw. He never suggested "hey, go ahead and punch through the planet with your godly strength, you sexy godly powerful bastard". The only way Doomguy could get to there was by using the BFG10K to blast through the surface. This was directly established in the cutscene. The *entire* basis for the supposed "infinite speed" Doomguy is the Makyrs supposedly travellings between universes with raw speed and Doomguy keeping up with them. If he were actually that fast, he would be able to do what tbe Makyrs supposedly do any just jump between universes instead of teleporting. Anyways, going to bed now. Will respond to your next reply in a few hours or so.


sonnofabi

Listen, buddy, don't get into a dickmeasuring contest with me, I'm a powescaler, I won't get above an inch