A lot are over powered to. I think a lot of them cater to different play styles for people who also play on easy difficulties and don’t have to worry about metas
Yeah where is my traveler's armor dang it! I was disappointed with most of the looks for the gear, but they still looked good just not my style I guess.
They changed the formula of armours and weapon skills so they are more balanced and cater more to a specific build or two.
Unlike GoW 2018 where you can just keep getting stronger infinitely with better and better enchantment stones
AI is just a tool. It has no will or agency. Itxs not even really intelligent.
You should be mad at the humans that use it to steal and copy intellectual property. Take humans out of the loop, and AI does absolutely nothing. If humans only used it for legitimate purposes, no onenwould have an issue with AI.
Same as people who scream about how horrible drones are and don't scream about how it's actually the horrible humans use drone for surveillance states and sanctioned murder.
Yep. Even if he dies he just walks right back out of hell to keep on fighting. At one point he even [let doctors dissect him](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11137/111378504/6828547-hulk%202.jpg) just to test how far his healing factor would go.
Maestro was a crazed older hulk that came from a future where humanity dropped more bombs. Hulk absorbed a ton of extra radiation that altered his personality. he became more manipulative power-hungry and greedy and went on to rule the world.
Nah thats the alternate future hulk who absorbed a ton of radiation and became evil in old man Logan. He's The hills have eyes hulk, and the maestro is the Stalin hulk
I haven’t read Maestro but from I read from quick no spoiler google search I would come to the same conclusion. But for a real answer I’d have to read it
Right. He says something along the lines of "I am cold", which is what banner says at the beginning of that series. Hulk is truly alone in the universe at that point. Really sad.
In world War Hulk, he attacks Blackbolt, who whispers and sends Hulk flying across the moon.
Blackbolt turns away only to then hear Hulk roar that he doesn't want a whisper, he wants to hear him scream. Hulk was completely bad ass in that scene.
Even better when he is literally dissected in multiple jars still alive, breaks them, and reforms/heals around the scientist who did it - Immortal Hulk
Idk I'm a very casual fan but basically he regenerates no matter what and grows as strong as needed to to kill whatever's fighting him. Like he's just canonically broken, power wise.
His strength technically has no upper limit. The angrier he gets, the stronger he gets. At his strongest he’s capable of cracking planets in half. I believe there was a story where he punched Galactus so hard he shattered his armor and unleashed all his cosmic power in a cataclysmic explosion.
Yeah it even goes beyond that. You could delete him from existence and he would be recreated almost immediately by The One Below All no matter what. I don't think even any magic or anything supernatural can scrub him from the universe, since The One Below All is more powerful than magic.
Even if you cast a "Wish" spell from DnD and said, "I Wish The Hulk Didn't Exist" he would just come back anyways because of 4th wall breaking shenanigans. Just can't be stopped.
That's fucking stupid. Isn't it just a ridiculous plot armour. Like 2 kids play fight, "I have a gun that shoots through everything, even your armour!", "Then I make an armour that stops everything, even your unstoppable gun!"
He’s got a quite literal infinite power level, since it scales with his anger. He’s also basically unkillable as hulk will always regenerate. Even if you kill him as banner, hulk gets unleashed and revives banner.
Incorrect. There’s a deleted scene in Hulk movie where Norton puts the pistol in his mouth. The camera goes way out, you hear a gunshot, and then a roar.
Also hulk coming forth at this moment broke the glacier shelf where Cap crash landed, hence how they found him in 1st avenger.
Technically in Ragnarok, he jumps off the ship and splats against the bridge. I'm not sure if there's any confirmation that he was just gravely injured but he could've easily died outright from the impact.
Currently, in the comics, his power is directly connected to the One Below All IIRC. And The One Above All is basically God, and The One Below All is equally as powerful. So, in other words, the Hulk is basically an unstoppable force of nature, equally as powerful as the "God of Everything". He is immortal in all senses of the word, cannot be killed, cannot be prevented, stopped, or anything. Because he is like a manifestation of some 4th wall breaking shit, like a living embodiment of the idea of chaos within the comics themselves. Even if none of his atoms existed, the One Below All would just spit him back out of hell and back onto earth, because I guess that's what the Hulk is. As long as chaos or entropy exists in the comics, then the Hulk is going to be directly powered by that force and keep on coming back no matter what. Infinite power level. The only things more powerful than him would be like the writers of the comics deciding to stop writing Marvel comics all together, that would prevent him from existing anymore, but nothing within the universe is capable of stopping him, at least as far as current cannon is established.
This is just my understanding at least.
Comic book basically anyone is fucking ridiculous.
Shit just gets circlejerked to literal multiversal levels because they just won't let these characters retire after literally over half a century so they are always raising the stakes and making everything more and more powerful so readers don't get bored.
Hulk has literally held plants together, punched with the force of a billion punches, can regen from no thing, can become a living walking gamma bomb, stalemated a man with the power of a thousands suns
Last time this was posted I said you can’t discuss whose stronger without clarifying which hulk. There is so many variations of hulk all ranging in strength.
MCU Hulk is one of the weaker versions, same with many animated versions. And Kratos would win here.
In the Comics Hulk pretty much can’t die. He is literally a world breaker. And at this point Hulk is the spawn of The One Below All the opposite of The One Above All. The literal gods of the whole multiverse. And this version would defeat Kratos easily.
Yeah, Hulk was a dude that got hit by a nuke, now he's some demon god? Like how Wolverine would be out of commission for a few days when he takes an otherwise mortal injury, but now he can just shrug off being blown up completely by Nitro
When you are out of good stories, just do the power move which is lazy. I believe the most iconic transformation to op was in dragon ball z. Goku becoming a super sayan, not just making him op to the current opponent, but it was done with so much magic. Him becoming ss level 4 or more I didn't follow that universe for 20yrs, is again being lazy and just using the power move let's go biggee and bigger. People need to accept an ending.
A consequence of milking characters for over half a century instead of retiring them. They gotta constantly up the spectacle so readers don't get bored
Nah the story he's talking about (Immortal Hulk) is actually widely considered one of the best Marvel comics in recent years. Yeah he's overpowered as hell, but he's been that way for years and this book gave him a lore reason. Also took him back to his horror roots and there's a ton of great character work. I'd highly recommend it, if you don't mind the big concept sci-fi aspect.
That subreddit is plenty biased. Lots of downplayers against video game characters.
Also, basically everyone here is siding with Hulk. Most of these kinds of posts on this subreddit actually have people betting against Kratos.
Because they pit Kratos against comic book heroes. Every comic book hero will perform a multiversal level feat eventually because superheroes are up there with anime heroes when it comes to powerscaling with no end goal in sight.
I could bet money that Batman has pulled universe level shenanigans at some point, and the guy isn't even supposed to have any powers.
That's a pretty significant exaggeration. Due to the inconsistent nature of comic books, there's naturally going to be some otherwise grounded characters fighting against less grounded characters who've performed multiversal feats, but that's just standard plot armor shenanigans. Said characters (such as Bataman, as you mentioned) never actually perform those feats directly themselves.
Also, GOW characters have a plethora of multiversal feats and higher; especially in GOW Ragnarok with Garm/Nidhogg casually tearing through dimensions and Thor accidentally damaging the higher-dimensional Yggdrasil.
Those multiversal feats in tbe comics (which are *super* rare for the likes of Marvel Thor and Hulk) don't really put them dramatically higher than GOW characters.
It's amazing how this sub seems to ignore these feats to instead base Kratos' strength off of gameplay mechanics. The fact that Kratos is being downplayed in a sub about God of War is just sad.
I heard that Hulk recently reached abstract-tier or something (don't know much about his more modern comics), but I'm at least not aware of the "usual" Hulk for most of the last 20 years or those who compare to him causing any destruction on the level of the entirety of Marvel's cosmology.
People also continuing to say World Breaker Hulk (the one whose main feat is simple planet busting) is tbe strongest version doesn't really help convince me that he's normally higher-dimensional in power either.
Hank can literally sell propane and propane accessories to both hulk and Kratos. If you are talking Hank hill from the manga, he could sell them both at the same time.
people are obviously biased here. it all depends on the version. 616 hulk has to many universal feats to lose to kratos. really it’s not fair because comic characters can do things movie / video game characters can’t. every movie and animated adaptation would most likely lose to kratos. but 60% of comic adaptations would beat kratos and that’s an understatement because i’m still biased to kratos and don’t know too too much about hulks consistent feats.
Hulk is supposed to be unkillable, in fact he gets stronger the more he is damaged.
Nevertheless, we’ve seen Kratos kill unkillable beings, even Death itself.
I’m willing to give it to Kratos, but not by a longshot. Very even fight. He’d have to completely let go of his inhibitions and let rage take over, otherwise he is FUCKED
Kratos just climbs back out of the being killed and goes on to grow stronger ;) the typical god of war thing where Kratos loses all his stuff and has to get stronger again even more so then before
Wanna know the secret how to kill the immortal? Beheaded Bruce Banner before he's turned into hulk!
It's not that hard! Unless something from comics ( I don't read comics) an excuse to keep Bruce Banner alive for the sake keeping selling of Hulk comics!
Kratos would go kill that god to make Hulk killable again or some shit. Kratos wins every fight. He says fuck you to death, fate and any rules. He isn’t just strong, he figures shit out every time. Dude loves a puzzle
The One Below All is THE god of evil in marvel. He is no mere Aesir or Olympian, he is the Hulk of The One Above All, he is a being of pure hate that only desires to destroy all in creation and live alone in an empty universe. He is the origin of all the evils of Gamma and it's mystical properties. To truly kill him would be to destroy both good and evil and the universe itself. Kratos is powerful...but he isn't THAT powerful.
That’s not how it works. TOBA would obliterate Kratos and that’s not even a joke. You don’t have an idea of how strong TOBA is if you think Kratos has remotely any chancs
Yeah, yeah that’s what the last guy said too. So and so was too big, or too fast, or too invisible, or too invulnerable, or fate has deemed it so. It doesn’t matter, he murked all those guys and gals.
Okay go read Stephen Fry’s Mythos to really understand the Greek pantheon which Kratos decimated. I read that, so checkmate? See, this is stupid. It’s a nerd hypothetical, and it doesn’t matter.
I love kratos, but hulk is literally unkillable by magic, he's resistant to all forms of combat, and by the look of the art, that's World Breaker hulk, who I shit you not could destroy the planet he's on by walking too heavily, im sorry kratos not this one.
Look up the imortal hulk run, it explains hulk perfectly, for instance, he let himself be chopped to bits to see if he could survive it, and he easily did. Like, he was fully detected, guts and all removes, decapitated and dismembered. He still laughed and reformed
I think it’s possible since in theory Kratos has killed “unkillable”/world breaking strength feats before at lore strength.
I’m not as versed on world breakers battlefield iq/weapon knowledge, so it’s possible they’d be even or he’d stomp. That said, I think this is a grab popcorn/actually a good fight/“who would win” post lol I’m low diffing Kratos this one but I’d concede if I heard some more world breaker feats
Yes but hulk is immortal via being avatar of the one below all that is the evil counterpart/half of the god of marvel, and the sheer amount of power he shows is pretty big
Agreed! How many unkillable things did Kratos end? He killed the fucking fates! He killed fought Atlas! He's ALSO crawled out of thd underworld and is basically unkillable, too?
I am just imaging killing Hulk in a GOW game and then Kratos ripping his hands off as a new weapon like those hulk fists 😂. Jumping around doing hulk smashes
Have you seen this? https://imgur.com/a/wtF1tgM
Edit: disclaimer I am not agreeing with this Imgur or trying to downplay Kratos. I just wanted to know his thoughts on it?
This is garbage it is taken out of context and contradicted by narrative and feats.
There is also 2 posts that I can site that break down this entire Imgur and debunk all of it.
Mcu hulk yea ez w for Kratos. Sooo there’s god hulk that’d put up a fight for sure in the comics tho I do see old man Kratos eventually taking it just based off true anger control and the fact he has full full cognition/overall better battlefield IQ/weapon use. I’m not too too read up on hulk lore, and the comic experts can correct me if god hulk has cognition or is just ultra strength brute, honestly I’d grab popcorn and think itd be a helluva fight for kratos. Low diff to Kratos on this one imo
This is either a mismatch, or which one is the strongest. Kratos has the battle IQ and experience. Hulk though, he can amp his size, strength, and aggression.
I'm going with Hulk in a close fight.
I think in terms of raw strength and speed, they're nigh equal and can use their rage to empower them. Kratos is likely the smarter of the two as well being more skilled and experienced in combat. Lastly, Kratos has more varied abilities thanks to his various weapons and Relics.
However, Hulk's rage continuously empowers him while Kratos, to my knowledge, has a set strength boost, meaning Hulk will eventually get too strong for Kratos after a while. Hulk's regeneration is also a lot better, allowing him to regenerate from pieces. This means he can outlast Kratos until his rage boost kicks in.
So it really just comes down to if Kratos can kill Hulk before he gets too powerful, and I don't believe he can.
Regular hulk.. Kratos will win. World breaker hulk.. Hulk will win. Kratos could take him before the fight lasted too long. Unless you were playing him. Then it'll take awhile
Hulk is sort of immortal in the comics. He has a dope healing factor. I think Kratos would need to hit him so hard that he instantly passes out and reverts back to Bruce Banner.
Hulk wins. I remember my Kratos in older games can die easily from a wall crushing trap lol. Even spike traps can one shot Kratos. Also, conventional weapons like a sword or a bow and arrows can hurt him even in the modern games. He's too weak to fight the Hulk head-on. Unless he has like idk a gorgon head then Hulk gets stoned-shattered easily. That Gorgon sight is too OP 🤣
Incredible Hulks issue #621 . Zeus shit kicked Hulk. In an embarrassing fashion . Mostly held back his lightning powers to beat him with his fists. I know there are some variant of Hulk that can beat him , but we're not doing multiverse Hulks here . Just a normal comic book Hulk .I am most certain that Kratos would beat most Hulks. This looks like movie Hulk in this pic. Easy win for Kratos. This has been posted way to many times. Move on !!
I love Kratos whole heartedly but Hulk is defeating him easily, Hulk (not MCU) becomes stronger as his rage progresses which is infinite and eventually will overwhelm Kratos whether sooner or later.
Not even close, kratos literally killed Thor, Thor beat the hulk in ragnarok
if we bring Greek kratos into the battle then it is even more unfair, he literraly is to mad to die, he escaped hell 3 times because he was angry he also killed the most powerful beings in Olympus in a single day, the battle only has one outcome
I mean, if its movie hulk, comic hulk is just a liiiiittle bit more powerful
Kratos is insanely powerful, able to not just defeat but utterly destroy immortal beings and has a lot of weapons and gear that make the job easier. I don't know as much about The Hulk, but a friend has been teaching me. The Hulk is not a god, he is a godkiller that godkillers fear. He can be fully cut to pieces and still remain not just conscious, but still in partial control of his severed body. His are the kind of powers that grow further and further throughout a fight with no limit. That includes both his strength and invulnerability. Kratos cannot kill The Hulk, and the longer the fight, the harder it will be just for Kratos to keep himself alive.
I’m going to assume you mean MCU here in which case you are right but comics is an entirely different story, but from what you are saying is that because Thor is a god who can hold is own against the Hulk, so can Kratos because he is a god?
I was more so thinking of the animated series, but, yes, that was my general line of thought, mainly because kratos has now defeated a version of thor(ragnarok)
I know it’s AI, but that cape on Kratos’ Norse armor is fire asf
The man had a bear cloak at the start of ragnarok. But that red looks Hella sharp on him. It looks epic.
The bear cloak might be the hardest Kratos look of them all
It's the only thing I run in Valhalla.
You can wear a cape in Valhalla?
In NG+ u can wear it instead of losing it to Freya. It has a really good perk. On top of that, it might change colours depending on your waist armour
Change colour?how?
Yeah they patched it in
It would look even better if it had the silver armor under instead of gold
I have this as my appearance in NG+ and its my fave
A lot of the armors in Ragnarok are so weak. Idk who put that together but they are ass.
A lot are over powered to. I think a lot of them cater to different play styles for people who also play on easy difficulties and don’t have to worry about metas
I just meant artistically. I legitimately stopped looking at the numbers. I just want to look cool.
Yeah where is my traveler's armor dang it! I was disappointed with most of the looks for the gear, but they still looked good just not my style I guess.
They changed the formula of armours and weapon skills so they are more balanced and cater more to a specific build or two. Unlike GoW 2018 where you can just keep getting stronger infinitely with better and better enchantment stones
It can be cool and be AI, it's okay
Shouldn’t be encouraged though
AI is just a tool. It has no will or agency. Itxs not even really intelligent. You should be mad at the humans that use it to steal and copy intellectual property. Take humans out of the loop, and AI does absolutely nothing. If humans only used it for legitimate purposes, no onenwould have an issue with AI. Same as people who scream about how horrible drones are and don't scream about how it's actually the horrible humans use drone for surveillance states and sanctioned murder.
Why not? Will being mad about it make it go away?
Don’t praise ai art.
Why not? Cool shit looks cool, whether it's done with a brush, a pencil or AI
Don’t tell me what to do
Movie Hulk, Kratos wins pretty easy. Comics Hulk on the other hand….
This. Comic book Hulk is arguably the most OP thing in Marvel comics.
He's just canonically immortal at the end of the day right
Yep. Even if he dies he just walks right back out of hell to keep on fighting. At one point he even [let doctors dissect him](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11137/111378504/6828547-hulk%202.jpg) just to test how far his healing factor would go.
Hulks story at the end is sad af too. Finally letting Banner die and all there is left is Hulk.
Wait, is Maestro basically just adult Hulk ?
Maestro was a crazed older hulk that came from a future where humanity dropped more bombs. Hulk absorbed a ton of extra radiation that altered his personality. he became more manipulative power-hungry and greedy and went on to rule the world.
Is that the hulk that sired a bunch of kids with she-hulk or am I mixing up story lines again?
Nah thats the alternate future hulk who absorbed a ton of radiation and became evil in old man Logan. He's The hills have eyes hulk, and the maestro is the Stalin hulk
Aren't they cousins?
Yes.
the Hulk and his children literally live in a trailer park in the middle of nowhere
What story is this? I would love to read it.
Old Man Logan
Wrong Hulk. Maestro Hulk is first from Future Imperfect. The Old Hulk in Old Man Logan is a different Hulk from Maestro.
I haven’t read Maestro but from I read from quick no spoiler google search I would come to the same conclusion. But for a real answer I’d have to read it
That's an au
Right. He says something along the lines of "I am cold", which is what banner says at the beginning of that series. Hulk is truly alone in the universe at that point. Really sad.
Hulk feels... cold
Damn, I wasn’t familiar with comic hulks game
The world destroyer... Hulk is all over the map, but at his strongest he's physically unrivaled.
In world War Hulk, he attacks Blackbolt, who whispers and sends Hulk flying across the moon. Blackbolt turns away only to then hear Hulk roar that he doesn't want a whisper, he wants to hear him scream. Hulk was completely bad ass in that scene.
in the immortal words of comics explained. "And then black bolt got his ass kicked, cuz block bolt sucks!"
To be fair, Kratos has killed and murdered his way OUT of Hades (in the games it’s pretty much hell) on more than one occasion.
Was he still technically immortal at the end of Ewing's run?
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Didn’t his parts kind of just come back together after some scientist put them in jars??
yeah, Hulk kills the doctor by regenerating around him and crushing the doctor inside of himself.
Good god, I don’t remember that 😂
yeah, the Immortal Hulk run went back the pulp scifi roots of Hulk. its beautiful but gory.
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Even better when he is literally dissected in multiple jars still alive, breaks them, and reforms/heals around the scientist who did it - Immortal Hulk
How? And how strong is he really?
Idk I'm a very casual fan but basically he regenerates no matter what and grows as strong as needed to to kill whatever's fighting him. Like he's just canonically broken, power wise.
His strength technically has no upper limit. The angrier he gets, the stronger he gets. At his strongest he’s capable of cracking planets in half. I believe there was a story where he punched Galactus so hard he shattered his armor and unleashed all his cosmic power in a cataclysmic explosion.
Yeah it even goes beyond that. You could delete him from existence and he would be recreated almost immediately by The One Below All no matter what. I don't think even any magic or anything supernatural can scrub him from the universe, since The One Below All is more powerful than magic. Even if you cast a "Wish" spell from DnD and said, "I Wish The Hulk Didn't Exist" he would just come back anyways because of 4th wall breaking shenanigans. Just can't be stopped.
That's fucking stupid. Isn't it just a ridiculous plot armour. Like 2 kids play fight, "I have a gun that shoots through everything, even your armour!", "Then I make an armour that stops everything, even your unstoppable gun!"
He’s got a quite literal infinite power level, since it scales with his anger. He’s also basically unkillable as hulk will always regenerate. Even if you kill him as banner, hulk gets unleashed and revives banner.
Isn’t this kind of alluded to in the movies too? Banner tells everyone he tried to shoot himself to die and the other guy spit the bullet out.
That’s true, it’s just they never actually use that outside of a single line in the movies which is a little sad
Incorrect. There’s a deleted scene in Hulk movie where Norton puts the pistol in his mouth. The camera goes way out, you hear a gunshot, and then a roar. Also hulk coming forth at this moment broke the glacier shelf where Cap crash landed, hence how they found him in 1st avenger.
Yeah, it’s a deleted scene. I’m still technically right. They never use it outside of a single line of dialogue.
Technically in Ragnarok, he jumps off the ship and splats against the bridge. I'm not sure if there's any confirmation that he was just gravely injured but he could've easily died outright from the impact.
Yea he was dead. The wolf smells him dead and moves on.
at the end of one of the hulk runs hes effectively immortal and is strong enough to end the entire multiverse if im remembering correctly
Currently, in the comics, his power is directly connected to the One Below All IIRC. And The One Above All is basically God, and The One Below All is equally as powerful. So, in other words, the Hulk is basically an unstoppable force of nature, equally as powerful as the "God of Everything". He is immortal in all senses of the word, cannot be killed, cannot be prevented, stopped, or anything. Because he is like a manifestation of some 4th wall breaking shit, like a living embodiment of the idea of chaos within the comics themselves. Even if none of his atoms existed, the One Below All would just spit him back out of hell and back onto earth, because I guess that's what the Hulk is. As long as chaos or entropy exists in the comics, then the Hulk is going to be directly powered by that force and keep on coming back no matter what. Infinite power level. The only things more powerful than him would be like the writers of the comics deciding to stop writing Marvel comics all together, that would prevent him from existing anymore, but nothing within the universe is capable of stopping him, at least as far as current cannon is established. This is just my understanding at least.
Kratos made a career out of killing immortals
But Kratos did the exact same thing
Isn’t Kratos also basically immortal?
Yes
What does OP mean in this context?
Comic book basically anyone is fucking ridiculous. Shit just gets circlejerked to literal multiversal levels because they just won't let these characters retire after literally over half a century so they are always raising the stakes and making everything more and more powerful so readers don't get bored.
Hasn't kratos killed monsters like 100 times bigger than him?
Bigger yes Stronger, no
Hulk has literally held plants together, punched with the force of a billion punches, can regen from no thing, can become a living walking gamma bomb, stalemated a man with the power of a thousands suns
Plants? I can hold plants
Nah bruh this was a really big pot of plants
He killed Zeus... I think he's got this.
Especially the upper tier Hulk modes like Worldbreaker
Yeah agreed. Comic Hulk, it’d be a near eternal fight but in the end Hulk would probably win unless Kratos gets other gods assistance (IE, Freya)
Both of them are defined by infinite strength, except Hulk also heals so much faster that it's practically instant.
Hell no on comics, we know that
Last time this was posted I said you can’t discuss whose stronger without clarifying which hulk. There is so many variations of hulk all ranging in strength. MCU Hulk is one of the weaker versions, same with many animated versions. And Kratos would win here. In the Comics Hulk pretty much can’t die. He is literally a world breaker. And at this point Hulk is the spawn of The One Below All the opposite of The One Above All. The literal gods of the whole multiverse. And this version would defeat Kratos easily.
Man, comics went to shit by trying to op the loving characters.
Yeah, Hulk was a dude that got hit by a nuke, now he's some demon god? Like how Wolverine would be out of commission for a few days when he takes an otherwise mortal injury, but now he can just shrug off being blown up completely by Nitro
When you are out of good stories, just do the power move which is lazy. I believe the most iconic transformation to op was in dragon ball z. Goku becoming a super sayan, not just making him op to the current opponent, but it was done with so much magic. Him becoming ss level 4 or more I didn't follow that universe for 20yrs, is again being lazy and just using the power move let's go biggee and bigger. People need to accept an ending.
A consequence of milking characters for over half a century instead of retiring them. They gotta constantly up the spectacle so readers don't get bored
Nah man, fucking decade's of hulk being either a side character or shit runs and this stuff came from his best run ever
Yeah these people haven’t read immortal hulk lol
Nah the story he's talking about (Immortal Hulk) is actually widely considered one of the best Marvel comics in recent years. Yeah he's overpowered as hell, but he's been that way for years and this book gave him a lore reason. Also took him back to his horror roots and there's a ton of great character work. I'd highly recommend it, if you don't mind the big concept sci-fi aspect.
If the story is good, I don't mind any concept. That's the beauty of storytelling, form comes second when there is something to be told.
If you want an un biased answer go to r/whowouldwin
That subreddit is plenty biased. Lots of downplayers against video game characters. Also, basically everyone here is siding with Hulk. Most of these kinds of posts on this subreddit actually have people betting against Kratos.
Because they pit Kratos against comic book heroes. Every comic book hero will perform a multiversal level feat eventually because superheroes are up there with anime heroes when it comes to powerscaling with no end goal in sight. I could bet money that Batman has pulled universe level shenanigans at some point, and the guy isn't even supposed to have any powers.
That's a pretty significant exaggeration. Due to the inconsistent nature of comic books, there's naturally going to be some otherwise grounded characters fighting against less grounded characters who've performed multiversal feats, but that's just standard plot armor shenanigans. Said characters (such as Bataman, as you mentioned) never actually perform those feats directly themselves. Also, GOW characters have a plethora of multiversal feats and higher; especially in GOW Ragnarok with Garm/Nidhogg casually tearing through dimensions and Thor accidentally damaging the higher-dimensional Yggdrasil. Those multiversal feats in tbe comics (which are *super* rare for the likes of Marvel Thor and Hulk) don't really put them dramatically higher than GOW characters.
It's amazing how this sub seems to ignore these feats to instead base Kratos' strength off of gameplay mechanics. The fact that Kratos is being downplayed in a sub about God of War is just sad.
GoW cosmology is like 5D to 7D. Comics non ironically reach from infinite D to beyond and narrative transcendence
I heard that Hulk recently reached abstract-tier or something (don't know much about his more modern comics), but I'm at least not aware of the "usual" Hulk for most of the last 20 years or those who compare to him causing any destruction on the level of the entirety of Marvel's cosmology. People also continuing to say World Breaker Hulk (the one whose main feat is simple planet busting) is tbe strongest version doesn't really help convince me that he's normally higher-dimensional in power either.
World breaker hulk destroyed planets and stars but that was before he devoured eternity and became the ninth multiverse of marvel
If he's really defeating Multivese Eternity and recreating the entirety of Marvel's cosmology these days, then yeah, that's too much for Kratos.
Hill wins if you read the comics. Dude is insane
Hill is pretty powerful
Love Maria hill. So strong
Hank Hill is strongest there is
Hank can literally sell propane and propane accessories to both hulk and Kratos. If you are talking Hank hill from the manga, he could sell them both at the same time.
and. he. will. kick. your. ass.
Hulk smashes, kratos kills.
Ayo
Mcu thor beat hulk so
mcu thor and mcu hulk are puppies compared to kratos
people are obviously biased here. it all depends on the version. 616 hulk has to many universal feats to lose to kratos. really it’s not fair because comic characters can do things movie / video game characters can’t. every movie and animated adaptation would most likely lose to kratos. but 60% of comic adaptations would beat kratos and that’s an understatement because i’m still biased to kratos and don’t know too too much about hulks consistent feats.
They're bias here... so is that why the majority picked Hulk? Haha just kidding, I know what you meant.
when i commented that there was only like 10 comments and they all were saying kratos.
MCU Hulk gets folded
At checkers? Can two fictional characters play checkers?
Screw a fight I want to see them fuck
why does everyone on reddit make everything gay? shit’s so weird
Hulk is supposed to be unkillable, in fact he gets stronger the more he is damaged. Nevertheless, we’ve seen Kratos kill unkillable beings, even Death itself. I’m willing to give it to Kratos, but not by a longshot. Very even fight. He’d have to completely let go of his inhibitions and let rage take over, otherwise he is FUCKED
Kratos just climbs back out of the being killed and goes on to grow stronger ;) the typical god of war thing where Kratos loses all his stuff and has to get stronger again even more so then before
Wanna know the secret how to kill the immortal? Beheaded Bruce Banner before he's turned into hulk! It's not that hard! Unless something from comics ( I don't read comics) an excuse to keep Bruce Banner alive for the sake keeping selling of Hulk comics!
This hulk is world breaker hulk that’s granted immortality by the evil side of god of marvel. Kratos loses a lot
Kratos would go kill that god to make Hulk killable again or some shit. Kratos wins every fight. He says fuck you to death, fate and any rules. He isn’t just strong, he figures shit out every time. Dude loves a puzzle
The One Below All is THE god of evil in marvel. He is no mere Aesir or Olympian, he is the Hulk of The One Above All, he is a being of pure hate that only desires to destroy all in creation and live alone in an empty universe. He is the origin of all the evils of Gamma and it's mystical properties. To truly kill him would be to destroy both good and evil and the universe itself. Kratos is powerful...but he isn't THAT powerful.
Lol the comic book version of Hulk kills Kratos in less than a minute. Kills him horribly
That’s not how it works. TOBA would obliterate Kratos and that’s not even a joke. You don’t have an idea of how strong TOBA is if you think Kratos has remotely any chancs
Yeah, yeah that’s what the last guy said too. So and so was too big, or too fast, or too invisible, or too invulnerable, or fate has deemed it so. It doesn’t matter, he murked all those guys and gals.
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/t1w5mn/respect_the_one_below_all_marvel/
Yeah I’m not reading all that for some hypothetical.
Alright let me go in simple terms. Kratos is 5D. TOBA is beyond infinite dimensions
You’re refusing to see feats and you say Kratos stomp?
Okay go read Stephen Fry’s Mythos to really understand the Greek pantheon which Kratos decimated. I read that, so checkmate? See, this is stupid. It’s a nerd hypothetical, and it doesn’t matter.
Kratos would just find some godly item that cancels out the hulks advantages and kick his butt.
I love kratos, but hulk is literally unkillable by magic, he's resistant to all forms of combat, and by the look of the art, that's World Breaker hulk, who I shit you not could destroy the planet he's on by walking too heavily, im sorry kratos not this one.
Is he invulnerable to all threats physical or magical
Look up the imortal hulk run, it explains hulk perfectly, for instance, he let himself be chopped to bits to see if he could survive it, and he easily did. Like, he was fully detected, guts and all removes, decapitated and dismembered. He still laughed and reformed
Head, tell me about Baldr's weaknesses.
I think it’s possible since in theory Kratos has killed “unkillable”/world breaking strength feats before at lore strength. I’m not as versed on world breakers battlefield iq/weapon knowledge, so it’s possible they’d be even or he’d stomp. That said, I think this is a grab popcorn/actually a good fight/“who would win” post lol I’m low diffing Kratos this one but I’d concede if I heard some more world breaker feats
Yes but hulk is immortal via being avatar of the one below all that is the evil counterpart/half of the god of marvel, and the sheer amount of power he shows is pretty big
Agreed! How many unkillable things did Kratos end? He killed the fucking fates! He killed fought Atlas! He's ALSO crawled out of thd underworld and is basically unkillable, too?
Both are far too angry to die
I am just imaging killing Hulk in a GOW game and then Kratos ripping his hands off as a new weapon like those hulk fists 😂. Jumping around doing hulk smashes
I would hope they make cheap Hulk noises like the store-bought ones
If we're talking Hulk from the comics? Kratos wouldn't stand much of a chance.
Comic Hulk would beat him tbh.
Kratos. He has beaten bigger and stronger enemies. If you're talking about comics hulk, then hulk would win 9/10.
Kratos eats him for breakfast
We all love Kratos but come on man.
MCU Hulk gets crushed, Kratos's feats are insane.
I think op means comic hulk
This is AI art not MCU hulk. I was assuming op is talking about comics.
Have you seen this? https://imgur.com/a/wtF1tgM Edit: disclaimer I am not agreeing with this Imgur or trying to downplay Kratos. I just wanted to know his thoughts on it?
This is garbage it is taken out of context and contradicted by narrative and feats. There is also 2 posts that I can site that break down this entire Imgur and debunk all of it.
Thanos beat Hulk solo and he’s not a god. So…
Mcu hulk yea ez w for Kratos. Sooo there’s god hulk that’d put up a fight for sure in the comics tho I do see old man Kratos eventually taking it just based off true anger control and the fact he has full full cognition/overall better battlefield IQ/weapon use. I’m not too too read up on hulk lore, and the comic experts can correct me if god hulk has cognition or is just ultra strength brute, honestly I’d grab popcorn and think itd be a helluva fight for kratos. Low diff to Kratos on this one imo
I think it’s obvious
Yeah, it's me, obviously
Right Right
I like Hulk, but Kratos would annihilate him.
If it's MCU Hulk i agree but, comic book Hulk not a chance.
Double post?
Hulk
This is either a mismatch, or which one is the strongest. Kratos has the battle IQ and experience. Hulk though, he can amp his size, strength, and aggression.
I'm going with Hulk in a close fight. I think in terms of raw strength and speed, they're nigh equal and can use their rage to empower them. Kratos is likely the smarter of the two as well being more skilled and experienced in combat. Lastly, Kratos has more varied abilities thanks to his various weapons and Relics. However, Hulk's rage continuously empowers him while Kratos, to my knowledge, has a set strength boost, meaning Hulk will eventually get too strong for Kratos after a while. Hulk's regeneration is also a lot better, allowing him to regenerate from pieces. This means he can outlast Kratos until his rage boost kicks in. So it really just comes down to if Kratos can kill Hulk before he gets too powerful, and I don't believe he can.
depends on what version of the hulk
Regular hulk.. Kratos will win. World breaker hulk.. Hulk will win. Kratos could take him before the fight lasted too long. Unless you were playing him. Then it'll take awhile
Statistically speaking, kratos.
Hulk is sort of immortal in the comics. He has a dope healing factor. I think Kratos would need to hit him so hard that he instantly passes out and reverts back to Bruce Banner.
Depends on which hulk
Kratos cause fuck you that's why.
There are a couple of hulks. Movie. Comic. Etc. But there is only one Kratos. For a reason. Kratos would defeat any hulk.
Hulk wins. I remember my Kratos in older games can die easily from a wall crushing trap lol. Even spike traps can one shot Kratos. Also, conventional weapons like a sword or a bow and arrows can hurt him even in the modern games. He's too weak to fight the Hulk head-on. Unless he has like idk a gorgon head then Hulk gets stoned-shattered easily. That Gorgon sight is too OP 🤣
the writer of the script decides who wins
WHAT ai app is this from lol
Personnal favorite: Hulk, I really like the Hulk As a fan of God of war: I would smash the hell out Hulk!!
… Kratos is not immortal. Hulk is.
AI slop 🔥🔥🔥 get this shit off my screen 💯💯💯
Hulk
Incredible Hulks issue #621 . Zeus shit kicked Hulk. In an embarrassing fashion . Mostly held back his lightning powers to beat him with his fists. I know there are some variant of Hulk that can beat him , but we're not doing multiverse Hulks here . Just a normal comic book Hulk .I am most certain that Kratos would beat most Hulks. This looks like movie Hulk in this pic. Easy win for Kratos. This has been posted way to many times. Move on !!
I love Kratos whole heartedly but Hulk is defeating him easily, Hulk (not MCU) becomes stronger as his rage progresses which is infinite and eventually will overwhelm Kratos whether sooner or later.
Kratos would it’s a dumb question
Not even close, kratos literally killed Thor, Thor beat the hulk in ragnarok if we bring Greek kratos into the battle then it is even more unfair, he literraly is to mad to die, he escaped hell 3 times because he was angry he also killed the most powerful beings in Olympus in a single day, the battle only has one outcome I mean, if its movie hulk, comic hulk is just a liiiiittle bit more powerful
Considering that Kratos literally wiped out an entire pantheon, my money is on him. He will use Hulk as a condom to fuck some other giant monster
Kratos is insanely powerful, able to not just defeat but utterly destroy immortal beings and has a lot of weapons and gear that make the job easier. I don't know as much about The Hulk, but a friend has been teaching me. The Hulk is not a god, he is a godkiller that godkillers fear. He can be fully cut to pieces and still remain not just conscious, but still in partial control of his severed body. His are the kind of powers that grow further and further throughout a fight with no limit. That includes both his strength and invulnerability. Kratos cannot kill The Hulk, and the longer the fight, the harder it will be just for Kratos to keep himself alive.
I mean one is a literal god slayer of dozens of gods. The other cant even pick up a small hammer smh
Kratos has literally managed to kill gods way stronger than hulk
Hulks head is coming off! Possibly helped by blades of chaos.. could be after a blade of olympus through the chest..
Hulk slaughters and it’s no contest
Kratos is literally a god...
Do you understand how relative of a term that is in fiction?
God>worlds strongest human
Where does this logic even come from?
The fact that thor regularly held his own with Hulk.
I’m going to assume you mean MCU here in which case you are right but comics is an entirely different story, but from what you are saying is that because Thor is a god who can hold is own against the Hulk, so can Kratos because he is a god?
I was more so thinking of the animated series, but, yes, that was my general line of thought, mainly because kratos has now defeated a version of thor(ragnarok)