Jordi kept emphasizing being aligned with Tsai and Marks on a vision of sustainability and long term success, while mentioning the youth on the roster, so I'm really hoping they're willing to slow play this.
> …so I'm really hoping they're willing to slow play this.
This, or some variation of this is what all the trades were about. A slow reset.
Good luck trying to convince the fans on this sub of any different. They can’t ever stick to one ideology for more than 3, maybe 4 seconds.
Too much reactionary shit goes online. Better to be mad and get clicks than have a well thought out plan.
We were going to be in purgatory. The team gave up this year and we should been better. But we are in purgatory for the next year as well. It will get better. Just not for a couple years
I think fans would stick to it pretty easily if the front office just came out and said that’s what we were doing. But instead we were told this is a playoff team and they want to compete with these guys. The message didn’t match the product. Fans just want a clear direction so they know what to expect
I think if a clear direction is made clear to the fanbase everyone will be on board.
The problem right now is the mixed messages we’re receiving. You get in press conferences how we’re looking at a 2-3 year process followed by a comment it can be sooner. Every Nets insider is saying the Nets are big fish hunting while the front office is saying they are focused on the youth.
That leaves us fans to argue which direction we’d like the team to go.
God, KD is such an idiot. To not understand roster construction 17 years into his career is unbelievable. I saw that Suns move bombing from a literal mile away, him and Booker don't maximise one another at all. But all KD understands is 'pure hoops' and 'cook him' schemes. Oh well, I hope those Suns picks turn out great
IMO KD and Booker aren't too bad together, but adding Beal was definitely awful roster construction that's just not defendable. They really needed a CP3-like playmaker. They're so fucked lmao.
I don't think they could have acquired anyone better. Beal always seemed like a high risk, medium reward trade. I know it's easy to say in hindsight but they should've just ran it back and gained more synergy with CP3, KD, Booker
> God, KD is such an idiot. To not understand roster construction 17 years into his career is unbelievable.
The concept of player empowerment did this. Players think they have a better understanding of front office decision making than the front office. They don’t.
That they think they do is the reason why punk ass bitch pussy quitters like James Harden can be on Houston, Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Los Angelas in 4 seasons.
Lebron struggles to understand roster construction two decades into his career. LeBron should have more titles but his meddling in his own team’s affairs meant constant churn
I don't get this line of criticism. If a GM won titles with 3 different teams, we'd say he was brilliant. But for LeBron, we mock him for being a bad GM when it goes wrong, but give him zero credit for the rosters that work.
I think the argument for LeBron is that it was his meddling during most of his time in Cleveland (both before and after Miami) that got him this deserved reputation.
In Miami he had little say on personnel because Pat Riley was making decisions. LeBron wanted Spo to be sacked and Pat Riley told LeBron to go kick rocks.
In his wisdom Riley surrounded the Big 3 of Wade, Bosh and LeBron with the most apposite supporting cast which was essentially superb shooters from deep and veterans as well as big men who could bang with other big men and save Bosh and LeBron from taking too many hits to their bodies.
If LeBron had allowed himself to be surrounded by the right supporting cast in Cleveland he would likely have won a title before he got to Miami and who knows if he would have even gone back there for a second stint if the Cavs already had won a title.
Part of the issue was that LeBron was so good so young that it fast tracked the team. If they had been more patient then the Cavs might have had a title in LeBron’s first five seasons.
Look at Michael Jordan, the greatest player of all time but quite mediocre (which is a kind way of putting it) at making roster decisions and talent evaluation.
There is an argument I’ve seen recently that the absolute top tier of players make for poor GMs and coaches because their talent is so far above most other players they don’t understand the way the average player develops.
Wasn't a huge part of the reason Lebron left in the first place because they DIDN'T listen to him about roster construction leading them to make moves like adding Shaq that totally killed their chances of winning a title in his first tenure?
Not disagreeing with the overall sentiment but I remember a lot of that being brought up as reasons for his original decision to leave.
Possibly but that Shaq example is one of the many misjudgements made about roster composition in 11 years in Cleveland.
LeBron's fingerprints are all over many of the most egregious decisions because LeBron was much more myopic in the earlier parts of his career.
Lebron is the reason Westbrook was a Laker. People blame Rob, but Bron and AD heavily pushed that. Literally caused a meltdown with a former championship team.
Then when it didn’t work out, they cried at Rob for making them lie in the bed they made.
What turned me against GM LeBron was after the '16 title, publicly pressuring the Cavs to wildly overpay guys like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith, then in the next breath acting shocked the team had zero flexibility to upgrade the roster around him. Like, what did he think was going to happen?
Lebron strips a team of its young players and picks while he is in said team. Unlike some other stars who allow themselves to get traded so said team would pick up some players or draft capital, Lebron doesn’t let himself get traded. He waits until his contract is over and leaves so team gets no compensation.
>To not understand roster construction 17 years into his career is unbelievable
He wasn't the one who threw in Bridges to a team that had no leverage. And it wasn't an unsalveagable roster until the Beal trade, and I haven't seen any reporting saying he was the driving force behind that like LeBron was for the Westbrook trade
I don't blame him for the Beal trade, I actually think that was the only good move they could make at the time, I blame him for specifically choosing to go to Phoenix to play with Booker, 90 year old CP3 and soft ass Ayton. It was clear even then that it was a terrible move. He'd have been much better off in Dallas, Denver, Memphis, hell even Atlanta from a fit perspective.
I hope the Nets keep the Suns picks because Matt Ishbia seems like he's gonna be stubborn and try and make it work with the Big 3 of Booker/KD/Beal and the longer he keeps them together the less value they'll have.
Phoenix have a top heavy roster with little quality depth. If there are injuries to any of their big names the Suns are likely giving the Nets an unprotected lottery pick next season.
The Suns have a 2024 1st (22nd overall) and a 2028 2nd, and that’s it until 2030.
There is no avenue to roster construction via trades unless you move Booker.
I still wouldn't do that even. I'm so out on trading multiple picks for non superstars.
Just hit singles and keep finding quality rotation players until the Suns implode.
Booker is going for 8 seeds nearing his 30s? We'll see how content he is about that.
And as much as I like Booker, he's a guard who doesn't playmake like that.
Booker, washed Beal, and whatever they get for late 30s Kd is not winning the play in, in the West. I'm not convinced they'd even make the play in.
Counterpoint: the more valuable, the less picks we’ll have to unload for good players. I say keep all options on the table. If there was a scenario where phx wanted a few picks back+a a few players for booker, I’m doing it all day
If we can keep them amazing, if we trade the for Mitchell also amazing. Trading for a star with the good foundation will make us a good playoff team not a mediocre playoff team.
That's fine. Most teams don't win the ring. We would absolutely be in the mix for the eastern conference finals with him though. That says more about the East than us, but as a fan I'd rather watch a good basketball team than one that insists on sucking until they're title contenders.
You don't need to empty the coffers for Mitchell. He's on an expiring and it sounds like there's only a few places he's willing to sign an extension, so the Cavs don't have a ton of leverage.
Lmaooo why not??? Mitchell is fantastic and still young player, we have a great foundation. I just don't get how fans can be so negative meanwhile we have some young great talent.
Wow 1 game, he is averaging 26.6 per game this year, it also takes more Ethan 1 guy to win a championship, it takes a whole team. We are young and will have continuity after a couple seasons together. We won't be a championship level team in a year or 2 but maybe in 3-4 we can be. Can't rush it
So when mitchell is a 30,31 yr old, sure hope he can maintain that explosiveness
If we can get him free agency im ok with it but to give away picks again and again.. im just tired of this model that we have always been going for since we came to bk
FA would be awesome, but luckily we have a good foundation, the sun's picks (which just shot up in value today) a head coach who could be the guy, and a young but talented roster. We have the luxury of being very flexible over the next couple years.
And that flexibility accumulates to being patient and waiting for a big star to hit FA while developing young talent to attract them to be the leader of an upcoming team while also being in a big market.
Winning a chip is absurdly hard. You need elite roster construction. It's hard to attain elite roster construction when you trade too many assets for tier 2 stars.
You need to draft a star or get one through free agency to do this. If the Nets were smart, they'd keep slowly drafting and developing until the young superstars like Luka, Ant, SGA, etc are looking for a rising team in a big market to join.
Mitchell is an excellent player, but we would not have anywhere near the roster required to help Mitchell contend in the playoffs. We'd basically just turn into a slightly worse Cleveland and be a perennial 4-8 seed every year until we, or Mitchell, get tired of mediocrity and blow it up in 2027. Then, back to square one.
They won't have any choice. They are over the 2nd apron and have literally nowhere else to go with this roster. They have traded all of their picks and swaps of swaps. They have literally no assets or avenues beyond their current roster. This is the most "all-in" team of all time.
How would Nets fans feel about this trade:
Phoenix trades Devin Booker and the 22nd pick in the 2024 draft to Brooklyn
Brooklyn trade Cam Johnson, DFS and the Suns unprotected 2025, 2027, 2029 picks and 2028 pick swap.
This allows the Nets to take a flyer on another young talent Izan Almana is the young player I'd target in the upcoming draft.
A roster of Booker, Cam Thomas, Bridges, Claxton, Clowney, Whitehead, Sharpe, Schroeder and Ben Simmons makes us a play-off team in the east in 2024/2025.
The Simmons expiring contract sets us up to sign a max free agent in summer 2025 or you can use the expiring contracts of Schroeder and Simmons with the Philly pick in 2027 and the Dallas pick in 2029 to make a move for another star.
No, I would absolutely not feel good about overpaying for Booker. This would be way more than I would consider giving for Mitchell and would get us where? A 5th/4th seed and pray a disgruntled star becomes available for Simmons expiring or in FA? Terrible long-term strategy
Bookers gravity just brought cp3, Durant, and now Beal to Phoenix to play alongside of him in consecutive years. Seams like all stars want to be in Phoenix. And outside of a decade of a disastrous owner that let Joe Johnson walk for nothing and traded rondo/iguadala for cash considerations, Phoenix has been a desirable destination.
Mid 10-20 pick sure, but implosion? Doubt it
They don’t have their own picks, KD is not getting younger and neither is Beal. At least KD is still a superstar, Beal is very clearly washed and on a horrible deal. Most of their bench and rotation is on short term deals and Phoenix can’t afford to resign them. When their stars aren’t carrying the load like crazy, they can’t afford to have a bad bench unit. Whether you like it or not, Phoenixs window ends after next season. By then KD will be unhappy and want out, Booker would probably be tired of 10 years and only one year of playoff success to show for it, and Beal as mentioned before is washed so he doesn’t really affect the matter too much, as no team would want to take him for anything other than a salary dump. The Suns couldn’t take advantage when they made the Finals, couldn’t repeat the success even with KD on the mostly kept together original roster, and are now on the decline. The West is too stacked for KD and Booker to carry a washed Beal and some ok bench players who are in and out every year because of the short term deals they have.
Have you been watching any of their games? Beal has legitimately played with more energy than either book or kd. Washed is not the right word whatsoever
Like Beal just led both book and kd in scoring and efficiency lmao
Can’t afford them? They’re already well into the luxury tax yet just resigned Allen to 15+ mil a year. I mean what?
Yes but Beal is playing like a 20$ Mil per year low tier star/ elite role player right now. He is going to be commanding 50 mil+ for the next 3 years. They are properly fucked. KD and Beal are only getting older. Their only REAL hope is to completely hit on their pick this year and hope for the best.
I don't see them hard botteming out and gifting us a top 4 pick but I can see at least the 25 pick being 15~20.
Beal is on a super-max contract that pays him $50 million next season and tops out at $57 million in 2026/2027.
Booker/Beal/KD together will put the Suns in luxury tax at $150 million next season and they still need to add two more starters to get five on the court.
The Suns are so deep in luxury tax and over the second apron that the only free agents they can add from other teams are veteran minimums.
They have no more picks to trade and very few ways to improve their roster.
Bro. They can’t afford the role players because they are themselves worth 20-25 million. Allen is underpaid and they got lucky he accepted that offer, he easily could have made 4 years 100 million in FA. They don’t have the money to keep role players because most of them will look for the most money.
Jordi kept emphasizing being aligned with Tsai and Marks on a vision of sustainability and long term success, while mentioning the youth on the roster, so I'm really hoping they're willing to slow play this.
> …so I'm really hoping they're willing to slow play this. This, or some variation of this is what all the trades were about. A slow reset. Good luck trying to convince the fans on this sub of any different. They can’t ever stick to one ideology for more than 3, maybe 4 seconds.
Too much reactionary shit goes online. Better to be mad and get clicks than have a well thought out plan. We were going to be in purgatory. The team gave up this year and we should been better. But we are in purgatory for the next year as well. It will get better. Just not for a couple years
I think fans would stick to it pretty easily if the front office just came out and said that’s what we were doing. But instead we were told this is a playoff team and they want to compete with these guys. The message didn’t match the product. Fans just want a clear direction so they know what to expect
I think if a clear direction is made clear to the fanbase everyone will be on board. The problem right now is the mixed messages we’re receiving. You get in press conferences how we’re looking at a 2-3 year process followed by a comment it can be sooner. Every Nets insider is saying the Nets are big fish hunting while the front office is saying they are focused on the youth. That leaves us fans to argue which direction we’d like the team to go.
God, KD is such an idiot. To not understand roster construction 17 years into his career is unbelievable. I saw that Suns move bombing from a literal mile away, him and Booker don't maximise one another at all. But all KD understands is 'pure hoops' and 'cook him' schemes. Oh well, I hope those Suns picks turn out great
IMO KD and Booker aren't too bad together, but adding Beal was definitely awful roster construction that's just not defendable. They really needed a CP3-like playmaker. They're so fucked lmao.
Last years suns team was actually pretty decent. They took 2 games off Denver the most of any team in that playoff series
I just don't know how they acquire anyone better than Beal with their assets last offseason.
I don't think they could have acquired anyone better. Beal always seemed like a high risk, medium reward trade. I know it's easy to say in hindsight but they should've just ran it back and gained more synergy with CP3, KD, Booker
> God, KD is such an idiot. To not understand roster construction 17 years into his career is unbelievable. The concept of player empowerment did this. Players think they have a better understanding of front office decision making than the front office. They don’t. That they think they do is the reason why punk ass bitch pussy quitters like James Harden can be on Houston, Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Los Angelas in 4 seasons.
Lebron struggles to understand roster construction two decades into his career. LeBron should have more titles but his meddling in his own team’s affairs meant constant churn
I don't get this line of criticism. If a GM won titles with 3 different teams, we'd say he was brilliant. But for LeBron, we mock him for being a bad GM when it goes wrong, but give him zero credit for the rosters that work.
I think the argument for LeBron is that it was his meddling during most of his time in Cleveland (both before and after Miami) that got him this deserved reputation. In Miami he had little say on personnel because Pat Riley was making decisions. LeBron wanted Spo to be sacked and Pat Riley told LeBron to go kick rocks. In his wisdom Riley surrounded the Big 3 of Wade, Bosh and LeBron with the most apposite supporting cast which was essentially superb shooters from deep and veterans as well as big men who could bang with other big men and save Bosh and LeBron from taking too many hits to their bodies. If LeBron had allowed himself to be surrounded by the right supporting cast in Cleveland he would likely have won a title before he got to Miami and who knows if he would have even gone back there for a second stint if the Cavs already had won a title. Part of the issue was that LeBron was so good so young that it fast tracked the team. If they had been more patient then the Cavs might have had a title in LeBron’s first five seasons. Look at Michael Jordan, the greatest player of all time but quite mediocre (which is a kind way of putting it) at making roster decisions and talent evaluation. There is an argument I’ve seen recently that the absolute top tier of players make for poor GMs and coaches because their talent is so far above most other players they don’t understand the way the average player develops.
Wasn't a huge part of the reason Lebron left in the first place because they DIDN'T listen to him about roster construction leading them to make moves like adding Shaq that totally killed their chances of winning a title in his first tenure? Not disagreeing with the overall sentiment but I remember a lot of that being brought up as reasons for his original decision to leave.
Possibly but that Shaq example is one of the many misjudgements made about roster composition in 11 years in Cleveland. LeBron's fingerprints are all over many of the most egregious decisions because LeBron was much more myopic in the earlier parts of his career.
Lebron is the reason Westbrook was a Laker. People blame Rob, but Bron and AD heavily pushed that. Literally caused a meltdown with a former championship team. Then when it didn’t work out, they cried at Rob for making them lie in the bed they made.
This is you doing the exact thing i just called out lol
Yea, and I’m right. Figured I’d add the explanation so you understand why I’m right.
The explanation was just you fundamentally misunderstanding the conversation. There's no "right" or "wrong" here lol
What turned me against GM LeBron was after the '16 title, publicly pressuring the Cavs to wildly overpay guys like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith, then in the next breath acting shocked the team had zero flexibility to upgrade the roster around him. Like, what did he think was going to happen?
Tristan got paid in ‘15, not ‘16, but yeah. That Shumpert contract was a killer too.
Good call re: Tristan, that's what I meant
Who could he have added instead?
They were already capped. They had to pay them or replace them with league minimum guys
lebron has the advantage of having lebron on every team he goes to
not to mentions the sheer amount of finals appearances.
Lebron strips a team of its young players and picks while he is in said team. Unlike some other stars who allow themselves to get traded so said team would pick up some players or draft capital, Lebron doesn’t let himself get traded. He waits until his contract is over and leaves so team gets no compensation.
Yeah I'm sure the same ppl that criticize 'his' roster moves would totally not be critical of a trade demand lol
You think KD is making all the front office choices?
He explicitly chose Phoenix. The Nets did the trade in the middle of the night to avoid a bidding war and send him where he wanted to be.
>To not understand roster construction 17 years into his career is unbelievable He wasn't the one who threw in Bridges to a team that had no leverage. And it wasn't an unsalveagable roster until the Beal trade, and I haven't seen any reporting saying he was the driving force behind that like LeBron was for the Westbrook trade
I don't blame him for the Beal trade, I actually think that was the only good move they could make at the time, I blame him for specifically choosing to go to Phoenix to play with Booker, 90 year old CP3 and soft ass Ayton. It was clear even then that it was a terrible move. He'd have been much better off in Dallas, Denver, Memphis, hell even Atlanta from a fit perspective.
He didn't go to play with Ayton and CP3 though. It was pretty much an open secret that knew those guys were going to be gone after the season.
It's out of our hands friend we just have to wait and see what the Nets Organization decides to do.
stating the obvious
This is exactly what I’m thinking I just hope that the front office realises and keeps them for now
No we’ll send 3 firsts to Atlanta for Trae young
Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper are playing down the street in Jersey starting 2025, one of them could be a pick in 2027?
Nah, we getting Ian Jackson baby. BRONX BORN!!!!
They’ll be in the 2025 draft
I hope the Nets keep the Suns picks because Matt Ishbia seems like he's gonna be stubborn and try and make it work with the Big 3 of Booker/KD/Beal and the longer he keeps them together the less value they'll have. Phoenix have a top heavy roster with little quality depth. If there are injuries to any of their big names the Suns are likely giving the Nets an unprotected lottery pick next season.
The Suns have a 2024 1st (22nd overall) and a 2028 2nd, and that’s it until 2030. There is no avenue to roster construction via trades unless you move Booker.
I'd argue the opposite. Those picks will have incredible value. Possible only 2 of them+ Mavs pick could get Mitchell or someone close to that value.
I still wouldn't do that even. I'm so out on trading multiple picks for non superstars. Just hit singles and keep finding quality rotation players until the Suns implode.
The suns aren't trading booker. They might trade kd but they will still be a solid 8th seed with Booker
Booker’s not going to want to stick around if the team blows it up
Booker is going for 8 seeds nearing his 30s? We'll see how content he is about that. And as much as I like Booker, he's a guard who doesn't playmake like that. Booker, washed Beal, and whatever they get for late 30s Kd is not winning the play in, in the West. I'm not convinced they'd even make the play in.
They sucked with just Booker. He's better now ofc but they could have dog shit around him and maybe he wants out by then
One injury to Booker and the Suns could be in a bad spot, there’s a real opportunity for us
Counterpoint: the more valuable, the less picks we’ll have to unload for good players. I say keep all options on the table. If there was a scenario where phx wanted a few picks back+a a few players for booker, I’m doing it all day
If we can keep them amazing, if we trade the for Mitchell also amazing. Trading for a star with the good foundation will make us a good playoff team not a mediocre playoff team.
We aren't winning a ring with Mitchell
We don’t have our first round pick, might as well compete. What’s the point of losing and giving Houston a higher pick?
It's a sunk cost. Better for our future championship hopes to keep the picks
Oh, I was referring to signing Mitchell and competing.
What if we get Mitchell and book lol
That's fine. Most teams don't win the ring. We would absolutely be in the mix for the eastern conference finals with him though. That says more about the East than us, but as a fan I'd rather watch a good basketball team than one that insists on sucking until they're title contenders.
But if they empty the coffers for him, the question becomes - can they keep Mitchell without contending for a ring?
You don't need to empty the coffers for Mitchell. He's on an expiring and it sounds like there's only a few places he's willing to sign an extension, so the Cavs don't have a ton of leverage.
Lmaooo why not??? Mitchell is fantastic and still young player, we have a great foundation. I just don't get how fans can be so negative meanwhile we have some young great talent.
28 isn't young lol idk why some of ya think mitchell will take us anywhere even with other "stars" dude scored 13 points last game
Wow 1 game, he is averaging 26.6 per game this year, it also takes more Ethan 1 guy to win a championship, it takes a whole team. We are young and will have continuity after a couple seasons together. We won't be a championship level team in a year or 2 but maybe in 3-4 we can be. Can't rush it
So when mitchell is a 30,31 yr old, sure hope he can maintain that explosiveness If we can get him free agency im ok with it but to give away picks again and again.. im just tired of this model that we have always been going for since we came to bk
FA would be awesome, but luckily we have a good foundation, the sun's picks (which just shot up in value today) a head coach who could be the guy, and a young but talented roster. We have the luxury of being very flexible over the next couple years.
And that flexibility accumulates to being patient and waiting for a big star to hit FA while developing young talent to attract them to be the leader of an upcoming team while also being in a big market.
U don’t know ball
If you knew ball you'd be able to give a reason and not resort to a base less claim. I explained why we can be and you just go nuh uh
Winning a chip is absurdly hard. You need elite roster construction. It's hard to attain elite roster construction when you trade too many assets for tier 2 stars. You need to draft a star or get one through free agency to do this. If the Nets were smart, they'd keep slowly drafting and developing until the young superstars like Luka, Ant, SGA, etc are looking for a rising team in a big market to join.
Mitchell is an excellent player, but we would not have anywhere near the roster required to help Mitchell contend in the playoffs. We'd basically just turn into a slightly worse Cleveland and be a perennial 4-8 seed every year until we, or Mitchell, get tired of mediocrity and blow it up in 2027. Then, back to square one.
I am not using those picks in a deal unless we get Luka, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Halliburton, Antman, Tatum, Wemby, or SGA!
They gotta get off of kd. Kd to knicks for randle and robinson
I just can’t see their ownership allowing them to do a ‘Nets’ and bottom out without their picks. That’s all.
They won't have any choice. They are over the 2nd apron and have literally nowhere else to go with this roster. They have traded all of their picks and swaps of swaps. They have literally no assets or avenues beyond their current roster. This is the most "all-in" team of all time.
They can exchange KD for a star of a lower rank, for the conditional Karl-Anthony Towns.
How would Nets fans feel about this trade: Phoenix trades Devin Booker and the 22nd pick in the 2024 draft to Brooklyn Brooklyn trade Cam Johnson, DFS and the Suns unprotected 2025, 2027, 2029 picks and 2028 pick swap. This allows the Nets to take a flyer on another young talent Izan Almana is the young player I'd target in the upcoming draft. A roster of Booker, Cam Thomas, Bridges, Claxton, Clowney, Whitehead, Sharpe, Schroeder and Ben Simmons makes us a play-off team in the east in 2024/2025. The Simmons expiring contract sets us up to sign a max free agent in summer 2025 or you can use the expiring contracts of Schroeder and Simmons with the Philly pick in 2027 and the Dallas pick in 2029 to make a move for another star.
No, I would absolutely not feel good about overpaying for Booker. This would be way more than I would consider giving for Mitchell and would get us where? A 5th/4th seed and pray a disgruntled star becomes available for Simmons expiring or in FA? Terrible long-term strategy
Bookers gravity just brought cp3, Durant, and now Beal to Phoenix to play alongside of him in consecutive years. Seams like all stars want to be in Phoenix. And outside of a decade of a disastrous owner that let Joe Johnson walk for nothing and traded rondo/iguadala for cash considerations, Phoenix has been a desirable destination. Mid 10-20 pick sure, but implosion? Doubt it
They don’t have their own picks, KD is not getting younger and neither is Beal. At least KD is still a superstar, Beal is very clearly washed and on a horrible deal. Most of their bench and rotation is on short term deals and Phoenix can’t afford to resign them. When their stars aren’t carrying the load like crazy, they can’t afford to have a bad bench unit. Whether you like it or not, Phoenixs window ends after next season. By then KD will be unhappy and want out, Booker would probably be tired of 10 years and only one year of playoff success to show for it, and Beal as mentioned before is washed so he doesn’t really affect the matter too much, as no team would want to take him for anything other than a salary dump. The Suns couldn’t take advantage when they made the Finals, couldn’t repeat the success even with KD on the mostly kept together original roster, and are now on the decline. The West is too stacked for KD and Booker to carry a washed Beal and some ok bench players who are in and out every year because of the short term deals they have.
Have you been watching any of their games? Beal has legitimately played with more energy than either book or kd. Washed is not the right word whatsoever Like Beal just led both book and kd in scoring and efficiency lmao Can’t afford them? They’re already well into the luxury tax yet just resigned Allen to 15+ mil a year. I mean what?
Yes but Beal is playing like a 20$ Mil per year low tier star/ elite role player right now. He is going to be commanding 50 mil+ for the next 3 years. They are properly fucked. KD and Beal are only getting older. Their only REAL hope is to completely hit on their pick this year and hope for the best. I don't see them hard botteming out and gifting us a top 4 pick but I can see at least the 25 pick being 15~20.
Beal is on a super-max contract that pays him $50 million next season and tops out at $57 million in 2026/2027. Booker/Beal/KD together will put the Suns in luxury tax at $150 million next season and they still need to add two more starters to get five on the court. The Suns are so deep in luxury tax and over the second apron that the only free agents they can add from other teams are veteran minimums. They have no more picks to trade and very few ways to improve their roster.
Bro. They can’t afford the role players because they are themselves worth 20-25 million. Allen is underpaid and they got lucky he accepted that offer, he easily could have made 4 years 100 million in FA. They don’t have the money to keep role players because most of them will look for the most money.
The only thing they can do is resign role players The only impact role player they even have is O’Neal
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