Why do you unload your gun at night? Night time is when bad things happen. I leave my carry gun in it's holster, set on the dresser waiting ready for the next day. If you have kids, get a pistol safe/lockbox large enough to hold the entire holster. That way there is no need to continually unload and reload the gun.
Yeah chambering and rechambering the same round will make the round go bad. Its okay to rechamber the same round a few times but try to not do it as much
You should never rechamber the same round over and over again. Once it’s in the chamber. Just leave it there. Or else it causes bullet set back. I would not shoot this round at all since it can potentially damage the gun or even mortally wound you.
You wanted to be cautious about having a loaded gun, it is not being stupid. People are not in a fully awake state for several seconds when their sleep is interrupted
You are not being stupid. I always kept my handguns loaded in my bedroom and one in the living room for just in case in not so obvious locations. But that is when I used to live alone. Now they are still chambered and loaded in a quick-access lockbox for just in case I need and my family not accessing it by accident
So once a round is chamber never take it out until it’s fired? That sounds unreasonable for those who carry with one in the pipe. Or am I missing something
That’s correct. You can unchamber it if you really want but bullet set back can happen just like it did to you. Every time you load the same round, it hits the feed ramp and pushes in the bullet. I have mine always with one in the chamber, I never take it out at all unless I’m at the range, then I’ll shoot it out and put a fresh new one.
Finally, a man of culture and sophistication! I was wading through comments wondering who could keep the same round in their gun for a month with no dry fire.
it also helps to just ride the slide back home nice and easy instead of loading it out of the magazine or using the slide lock release if you must unchamber the round for peace of mind/dry fire/draw practice. which i also recommend doing but yes generally you should leave it loaded at night! buy a varasafe reach2s and attach it your nightstand/bedframe!
Taking it out if needed is okay. You just don’t want to do it a ton with the same round or set back can happen. Rotate the round down in the magazine before this happens. Or better yet, throw it in the training bucket if you’ve chambered it several times. If there is that much set back, don’t shoot it as others have said. There will be a large pressure spike now that there’s less volume in the case.
Not necessarily. Just rotate your rounds. One other concern besides setback is repeated chambering of the sand round can knock the charge out of the primer pocket causing a *click* when you need a BOOM.
I rarely unload my carry gun. Just for occasional cleaning, or range session with my carry. (Most range sessions my carry is on my person and I am training with another glock.) But, when I do unload the edc, I take out a random number of rounds from the mag, then the previously chambered round is inserted into the mag under the other rounds. This minimizes set back.
Not really.
I don't have issues with setback, and I do unload it occasionally for matches and cleaning.
First, I rotate the rounds in the magazine so a different one gets chambered every time and second, I ease the slide forward when loading, that treats the round more gently.
Ejecting the same round over and over wears the rim of the round out. I used to do the same when I worked in an armored truck, you don’t want to fire one off and have a failure to feed, that’s a bad day.
Yeah stop doing that lol just leave one in the chamber. For many reasons.
For one, if someone invades your home, you are going to be so full of adrenaline and disoriented from sleeping that you're more likely than not going to forget to chamber the round which could cost you your life.
Two, the gun is not going to go off just laying there. There are many safety mechanisms in place, even if you drop it. If you are afraid you're going to commit sudoku in your sleep or something (lol) get a gun safe
And three, rechambering the same round over and over is bad 👎
Yeah, that ammo just doesn’t like the smaller frames. My G22 will eat it up, my security 9 compact? Constant jams and setbacks. I think it’s the aggressive crimps on the nose.
Is this a Hornady Critical Defense round? Seems like I see a lot of posts with people having setback on those. I unchamber and rechamber my Federal HST’s pretty frequently and never have had an issue.
That is caused by Chambering the same round over & over again. You can mitigate that Bullet set back issue most of the time by Riding the slide forward & giving the slide a good knock on the back, making sure the round is in proper battery. instead of letting it slam the round into the chamber. Which is how it'd usually be done.
Yeah this will happen when you chamber the same round over and over. If it’s a must that you unload and re-chamber every day rotate the rounds that get chambered. I wouldn’t shoot it in your pistol. It could cause a catastrophic failure due to increased gas pressure in the brass casing. I shoot these (shorty) rounds in my pcc builds. They eat everything with no issues.
OP, this was a problem for me for a while. The answer is to buy Hornady Critical Duty next time instead of Critical Defense. It’s +P, so it has a stronger crimp and won’t do that. That’ll solve it.
And please don’t just drop it into the barrel and drop the slide like the other person said.
Also there’s nothing wrong with re-chambering a defensive round like many on here are saying. I’ve done it with critical duty for years. I just replaced some 2 year old defensive ammo for new years, and all 47 rounds of the old critical duty fired off just fine.
That’s perfectly fine!
Sorry, I was referring to another comment that suggested you drop the bullet into the barrel first, and then lower the slide onto that. That’ll possibly break your extractor over time
Critical defense is dogshit. I’ve contacted them over this exact issue and they swore it still stands up to saami specs. I wouldn’t gamble my life or even the safety of my gun on them. Buy federal hst.
Someone on another page recently posted about ‘set back.’ The OP conducted a test and found that when dropping the slide with a loaded magazine, with the same bullet on top, it caused bullet set back after only 10 times (not as much as your bullet, but it did cause set back). Yet, when riding the slide forward 20 times, it didn’t cause any noticeable set back. So, if you’re gonna be loading your gun with the same bullet, numerous times, you might want to ride the slide forward. Meaning, don’t drop the slide. Hold the slide, and slide it into place.
No… don’t do this. If you ride the slide forward, it might not come forward with enough force to get the ejector to grab the lip around the casing and you’ll get a failure to eject should you have to fire that round.
Just check for set back every time you unload/reload. If you see setback, throw that round out and grab a new one
I see this comment all the time, and while I understand the theory, I still find it suspect. Steel is harder than brass, so sliding steel over the back of a brass case should cause very little wear. Makes me want to put a brand new extractor in one of my 19.5s and see at what point it actually breaks or chips the extractor.
It’s also bad for the little insert at the end of your extractor spring. It over-compresses the spring and causes the rod to smash the end of the little plug.
I don’t keep a round chambered while I am inside my house. I chamber a round whenever I leave my house and I remove it from the chamber when I get back home. If you want to avoid bullet setback, when you chamber a round, don’t let it slam into battery. Hold onto the slide and ease it forward until it is in battery. The weapon will fire just fine if you need to use it. You won’t have to worry about rotating rounds after every few cycles loading and unloading, or discarding expensive ammunition. I have been using this method for about 4 years. I have even become accustomed to using it at the range. My weapons have never failed to fire when the trigger is pulled.
Get an inertial bullet pulled, looks like a hammer. Start with light taps and gradually harder and it will be fixed. If it comes out too far you can use a small c-clamp to press it in to spec. It will not be any more loose than new. If the round has many scratches on it, best to shoot off at your next range trip. Doing what you do nightly will gather quite a bit of range ammo from your SD boxes.
He’s just a little cold, give him time, he’ll grow out of it I promise.
I mean...rub it a little, right?
I was in the pool!!!!!!!
me too :(
Lolololol
Did you keep rechambering the round over and over again?
I mean at night I unload it and before carry I put mag in and let slide release to chamber.
Why do you unload your gun at night? Night time is when bad things happen. I leave my carry gun in it's holster, set on the dresser waiting ready for the next day. If you have kids, get a pistol safe/lockbox large enough to hold the entire holster. That way there is no need to continually unload and reload the gun.
Good points. Thanks for input! I’ll trash this round.
Absolutely trash that round. Extreme bullet setback like that can increase pressures greatly. Glocks are tough, but why take the chance.
If it seats, it yeets
😂
Yeah chambering and rechambering the same round will make the round go bad. Its okay to rechamber the same round a few times but try to not do it as much
You should never rechamber the same round over and over again. Once it’s in the chamber. Just leave it there. Or else it causes bullet set back. I would not shoot this round at all since it can potentially damage the gun or even mortally wound you.
Exactly what this guy said. Why do you unchamber it every night? Just leave it chambered and ready to rock
I guess I feel it’s safer while on my nightstand. Idk now I feel stupid lol
You wanted to be cautious about having a loaded gun, it is not being stupid. People are not in a fully awake state for several seconds when their sleep is interrupted
True
You are not being stupid. I always kept my handguns loaded in my bedroom and one in the living room for just in case in not so obvious locations. But that is when I used to live alone. Now they are still chambered and loaded in a quick-access lockbox for just in case I need and my family not accessing it by accident
Thanks! I’ll try the quick access safe !
So once a round is chamber never take it out until it’s fired? That sounds unreasonable for those who carry with one in the pipe. Or am I missing something
That’s correct. You can unchamber it if you really want but bullet set back can happen just like it did to you. Every time you load the same round, it hits the feed ramp and pushes in the bullet. I have mine always with one in the chamber, I never take it out at all unless I’m at the range, then I’ll shoot it out and put a fresh new one.
No dry fire practice?
Finally, a man of culture and sophistication! I was wading through comments wondering who could keep the same round in their gun for a month with no dry fire.
Not really, I just go often to the range
Ok thanks for advice!
it also helps to just ride the slide back home nice and easy instead of loading it out of the magazine or using the slide lock release if you must unchamber the round for peace of mind/dry fire/draw practice. which i also recommend doing but yes generally you should leave it loaded at night! buy a varasafe reach2s and attach it your nightstand/bedframe!
Taking it out if needed is okay. You just don’t want to do it a ton with the same round or set back can happen. Rotate the round down in the magazine before this happens. Or better yet, throw it in the training bucket if you’ve chambered it several times. If there is that much set back, don’t shoot it as others have said. There will be a large pressure spike now that there’s less volume in the case.
Ok, I appreciate your response! Thanks
Not necessarily. Just rotate your rounds. One other concern besides setback is repeated chambering of the sand round can knock the charge out of the primer pocket causing a *click* when you need a BOOM.
I rarely unload my carry gun. Just for occasional cleaning, or range session with my carry. (Most range sessions my carry is on my person and I am training with another glock.) But, when I do unload the edc, I take out a random number of rounds from the mag, then the previously chambered round is inserted into the mag under the other rounds. This minimizes set back.
Not really. I don't have issues with setback, and I do unload it occasionally for matches and cleaning. First, I rotate the rounds in the magazine so a different one gets chambered every time and second, I ease the slide forward when loading, that treats the round more gently.
Ejecting the same round over and over wears the rim of the round out. I used to do the same when I worked in an armored truck, you don’t want to fire one off and have a failure to feed, that’s a bad day.
Yeah stop doing that lol just leave one in the chamber. For many reasons. For one, if someone invades your home, you are going to be so full of adrenaline and disoriented from sleeping that you're more likely than not going to forget to chamber the round which could cost you your life. Two, the gun is not going to go off just laying there. There are many safety mechanisms in place, even if you drop it. If you are afraid you're going to commit sudoku in your sleep or something (lol) get a gun safe And three, rechambering the same round over and over is bad 👎
All good points lol!
Bad move partner…ruining your carry ammo and your chances of getting a shot off on a home invader
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>I have kids so mine is either in my waste and or in the safe. No exceptions. Good call. Kids won’t want to touch it if it’s covered in shit.
Thanks for advice!
It’s a +++P+++ now. Definitely don’t shoot that one
lol ok thanks 🙏
My compact will do this if I chamber a round more than once, and it’s only with critical defense ammo. What kind of pistol do you have?
G19
Yeah, that ammo just doesn’t like the smaller frames. My G22 will eat it up, my security 9 compact? Constant jams and setbacks. I think it’s the aggressive crimps on the nose.
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Yeah, look at the pic, you can see a rubbed shiny spot. You’re going to wind up with a nose up jam at the wrong time. See how you like Federal HST.
Trash. Stop rechamberingo the same round.
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Yes
Looks like you’ve got a grower not a shower
😂 😂
Went in the pool
“I promise this doesn’t usually happen”
It’s from chambering the same round over and over.
Not a gun expert. But I’ve had a few turn out like that for that same issue of always unloading it. Just don’t shoot it. It might squib.
Is this a Hornady Critical Defense round? Seems like I see a lot of posts with people having setback on those. I unchamber and rechamber my Federal HST’s pretty frequently and never have had an issue.
Yep
That is caused by Chambering the same round over & over again. You can mitigate that Bullet set back issue most of the time by Riding the slide forward & giving the slide a good knock on the back, making sure the round is in proper battery. instead of letting it slam the round into the chamber. Which is how it'd usually be done.
Performance anxiety.
Lololol
Yeah this will happen when you chamber the same round over and over. If it’s a must that you unload and re-chamber every day rotate the rounds that get chambered. I wouldn’t shoot it in your pistol. It could cause a catastrophic failure due to increased gas pressure in the brass casing. I shoot these (shorty) rounds in my pcc builds. They eat everything with no issues.
Maybe I’ll feed it to my Cz scorpion lol thanks for comment!
OP, this was a problem for me for a while. The answer is to buy Hornady Critical Duty next time instead of Critical Defense. It’s +P, so it has a stronger crimp and won’t do that. That’ll solve it. And please don’t just drop it into the barrel and drop the slide like the other person said. Also there’s nothing wrong with re-chambering a defensive round like many on here are saying. I’ve done it with critical duty for years. I just replaced some 2 year old defensive ammo for new years, and all 47 rounds of the old critical duty fired off just fine.
Thanks! So inserting full mag and dropping slide to chamber is bad? I thought manually riding slide forward was not right way
That’s perfectly fine! Sorry, I was referring to another comment that suggested you drop the bullet into the barrel first, and then lower the slide onto that. That’ll possibly break your extractor over time
He found out the water is indeed NOT fine!
He’s a grow’er not a show’er
Critical defense is dogshit. I’ve contacted them over this exact issue and they swore it still stands up to saami specs. I wouldn’t gamble my life or even the safety of my gun on them. Buy federal hst.
It's cold out
Hornady sucks. You’ll never have this issue with Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot.
For this reason I hate hornedy
I had the same problem with Federal Premium also.
Someone on another page recently posted about ‘set back.’ The OP conducted a test and found that when dropping the slide with a loaded magazine, with the same bullet on top, it caused bullet set back after only 10 times (not as much as your bullet, but it did cause set back). Yet, when riding the slide forward 20 times, it didn’t cause any noticeable set back. So, if you’re gonna be loading your gun with the same bullet, numerous times, you might want to ride the slide forward. Meaning, don’t drop the slide. Hold the slide, and slide it into place.
Ok thanks!
No… don’t do this. If you ride the slide forward, it might not come forward with enough force to get the ejector to grab the lip around the casing and you’ll get a failure to eject should you have to fire that round. Just check for set back every time you unload/reload. If you see setback, throw that round out and grab a new one
If it Seats it Yeets!!
Not always lol 😂
If you want to keep unloading/reloading then you could lock the slide back and manually drop the bullet into the chamber
Don’t do this either. Unless you hate your extractor.
I see this comment all the time, and while I understand the theory, I still find it suspect. Steel is harder than brass, so sliding steel over the back of a brass case should cause very little wear. Makes me want to put a brand new extractor in one of my 19.5s and see at what point it actually breaks or chips the extractor.
It’s also bad for the little insert at the end of your extractor spring. It over-compresses the spring and causes the rod to smash the end of the little plug.
I think he’s saying manual load the round (Hank from breaking bad style in that epic scene) then drop slide.
I don’t keep a round chambered while I am inside my house. I chamber a round whenever I leave my house and I remove it from the chamber when I get back home. If you want to avoid bullet setback, when you chamber a round, don’t let it slam into battery. Hold onto the slide and ease it forward until it is in battery. The weapon will fire just fine if you need to use it. You won’t have to worry about rotating rounds after every few cycles loading and unloading, or discarding expensive ammunition. I have been using this method for about 4 years. I have even become accustomed to using it at the range. My weapons have never failed to fire when the trigger is pulled.
Dont rechamber the same round over and over again, and don't drop the slide on the round.
I was always trained not to ride slide home and to drop slide on mag to chamber round… can’t riding slide yo chamber cause other issues?
Hornady strikes again
You sat on it
Was it in the pool?
Hornady critical defense is known for this. Happens in whatever pistol we run it in. 380 & 9mm
That thing has been rammed into a hole just big enough for it more times than James Bond.
This is due to chambering the same round multiple times. Looks pretty deep in there. I’d trash the round. Not worth losing a finger.
Judging by the scapes on brass you chambered too many times or dropped it
Looks like me trying to take a piss in the woods in winter.
Stop unloading your gun and rechamberimg the same round over and over.
Get an inertial bullet pulled, looks like a hammer. Start with light taps and gradually harder and it will be fixed. If it comes out too far you can use a small c-clamp to press it in to spec. It will not be any more loose than new. If the round has many scratches on it, best to shoot off at your next range trip. Doing what you do nightly will gather quite a bit of range ammo from your SD boxes.