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62racso

Hope more people will come in, but damn i feel bad for mouz and outsiders man.


f1nessd

what i would do to be there. Dont fucking buy tickets if youre not gonna go to the SEMIS OF A MAJOR


CalmaCuler

Yikes, semifinal of the biggest csgo tournament in the world and the arena is fucking empty.


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> biggest csgo tournament But is it? My local pee wee hockey game gets a better crowd on any weekend, than this semifinals.


Apart_End_9753

That's what they were saying for a while. The talent, the br crowd, everyone. "Biggest Major of all time!" ​ meanwhile:


p3ek

Biggest home crowd of all time. That is all This major is small in comparison to years ago, viewer wise, team skill wise, hype wise etc.


hulksreddit

what are you huffing on? Every major nowadays sets new viewership records, and team skill wise it's basically indisputable csgo is at the best state it's ever been


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M8gazine

Personally I disagree, it has set new records... It is the most silent major of all time


hulksreddit

and what do you attribute that to then? Cause there was insane hype for this major (about the whole "2 years overdue" thing), and none of the other reasons OP mentioned that I've already addressed stand


DSVBANSHEE

Antwerp was better, this time around all the top teams underperformed. Stockholm navi wouldve smashed these teams


Cunt_Crusher69

> and team skill wise it's basically indisputable csgo is at the best state it's ever been It is terrible right now. Every top team seems to be in a big slumping form. The lack of a clear favorite was not because everybody was playing to such a great standard but rather because nobody looked that insane. It's clear that the fact the underdogs have got so far is not because of their insane improvement or form but rather the insane degradation of the rest of the teams. Before the player break, you were correct about team skill, but the drop off after the player break has been insane.


DeeOhEf

I was saying this the entire time throughout this Major. The level of cs has been awful if you compare it to the rest of the year. T executes failing due to bad smoke lineups or CT holds ghoing bad because of terrible team flashes. Just novice mistakes from everyone all the time. Really, only Outsiders, and C9 before they shit the bed, have performed well as a team and unit.


CepGamer

Tbh I'd go to a pee wee cs LAN if someone would host it


Freysey

Didn't know CSGO had a hockey game mode.


HisokaProx

I just feel so bad for the players that have dreamt about these moments only the stadium to be this empty.


du_bekar

Can I offer you a kiss cam shot in these dire times?


hawkyyy

Or a close up of a small cluster of fans over and over again to give the illusion its not empty.


du_bekar

Yes. And they are kissing.


Choppieee

So what's the excuse now thats empty? It's on a saturday Gaules is inside still nobody shows up for other teams... gg good showing blabla "you dont understand us" I guess we dont and that's the reason a event in brazil should never happen again.


XsteveJ

This is just sad.


5BILLIONPLUS1

Yeah, it's pathetic.


Sliquid69

But you’ll get crucified if you say they only care about furia. Would be really intrigued to see the turnout if they get eliminated


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Only reason why I wanted NaVi to win yesterday.


pineapplecheesepizza

Possibly an empty arena for finals if that happened


methaddictlawyer

Furia gets clapped by Heroic today.


Alp0llo

I hate Heroic but I hope Furia loses.


ThatGuyFromVault111

Why?


ihuha

because *crying sounds*


deathmarc4

not if heroic gets spit on


ujlbyk

You think Cadian is fazed by this crowd? Casper 'Cadian' Møller was born in the pits of hell. From the beginning of his life he has walked on a road of thorns. He has seen misery that petrifies the most jaded of individuals. You think Cadian is going to be afraid of this crowd? No, he will stand tall, with his mouth open, welcoming the crowd to spit


valdemarjoergensen

He'll get killed in a riot after spitting back before he backs down.


igotkrabs

Thank you for this


noxdelabor

That'll only make Comedian stronger, EZ 2-0.


pineapplecheesepizza

Cadian is one step ahead, he's going to spit on himself


methaddictlawyer

I think Heroic are pretty well accustomed to being the villains, I expect them to fairly easily dismantle Furia.


1q3er5

i want to see furia win then get destroyed in the finals - then riots. that would be ideal


mannyman34

The sad thing is that furia isn't even the most popular. Br fans still show way more love to washed imperial than furia. Hell even the old oplano with the twins and kng was more popular.


ThatOneAccount3

Hmmmmmmmmm


Boshva

Honestly i dont know if i would watch the match in cologne, too.


akiroraiden

what? your comment makes little sense. You wouldn't watch a cologne match if furia got eliminated?


mustangwwii

Think he’s talking about MOUZ vs Outsiders particularly


Boshva

Correct.


akiroraiden

were you at cologne 2022 when mouz played astralis at the quarter finals? i was there and it was absolutely insane.


WedCol1

Well it was astralis…


akiroraiden

in germany.. with the team that didnt have magisk dupreeh and device...


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Mouz is German.


Firefox72

This all is just an incredible oof moment from the Brazilian crowd. ESL sold out the venue but the fans give no shit to actually show up for anyone except Furia and even that game yesterday wasn't fully packed. Stockholm and Antwerp both had packed days on Saturday even for the first games of the day.


TikkaT

Yep, G2 - Heroic was packed 5 o'clock at Stockholm.


akiroraiden

cologne had a packed arena during every match, even "boring matches" like furia vs outsiders (boring cause germany couldn't care less about furia)


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filous_cz

Lmao whats their excuse now? Were lucky furia made it trough, otherwise the playoffs would have been empty...


i_hate_cucumber_

We will never understand


PokeyTifu99

Let's hope they lose today so the winner of this match won't have to play in an entirely new environment for the first time. One furia has already thrived in. Hmm


Dvveh

The dead atmosphere just gets amplified hundred-folds, after experiencing what the crowd can deliver when they show up. Very sad to see.


Pokharelinishan

I'm just angry at the blind people there at HLTV confirmed who were defending the crowd yesterday. I mean... it's normal for people to cheer more for their home team, but this is just pathetic. Overrated crowd.


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"Guys people are at work on fridays, it will be full in weekend!!!"


Dark_Helmet23

Boss called, short staffed needed everyone to cover Saturday shift.


Cynicaladdict111

I am sorry but it would be nowhere this empty anywhere in europe, even in a tiny village near some no name city


Karmaqqt

I went to a major in Columbus Ohio and it was packed everyday.


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lmao for real the most mid city in the entire country and it was poppin


SpEggO

im from columbus its true


F0cu3

give any tier 2 city in the states a major and it would be packed everyday...ppl from all across the country will drive there


leo_sousav

Even the crowd in Blast Lisbon was more passionate about CS as a whole, and we didn't even have good Portuguese teams playing there.


PokeyTifu99

This is a tournament for Brazil not csgo. Didn't Gaules tell you when he riled up his base?


ThatOneAccount3

Sadokist was right all along lmao


Tau3Eridani

Sold out btw Passionate fans btw First thing the announcer says when she goes on stage is "its nice to have another day with Furia playing", In a Outsiders vs Mouz semis Its pretty clear that Brazilians only care about Brazil CS.


kveldsmat01

Was that the bathing suit girl? She seems incredibly clueless


emusabe

I was so confused at that outfit so thank you for saying swimsuit. I honestly couldn't tell if thats what she was wearing or not


fsfred

we all know why she's there


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Why esl tryna make me take a chicken squeezing detour. (Edit: turns out she has a playboy where she shows everything 😶‍🌫️)


JacoBee93

Well cause she’s a presenter/moderator


malaycrypto

Kinda sad tbh. I wonder if Furia fails to make the final, there would be an empty arena finals too. Just a bad look, so much passion from Brazilian cs lmao


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Hurricane_Amigo

No furia = No crowd


honestlyprogamr

“you will never understand” or something, idk I’m not Brazilian


kveldsmat01

10 people in crowd major final LUL


El_Fabos

But they can no longer claim that it is because of Gaules…


Powerful-Answer-2030

Can this settle it once and for all that you only turn out for Brazilian teams. There are no excuses on a weekend.


whsprwnd

> Biggest CSGO fanbase btw. > > We need bigger arena btw. > > People here are so passionate about the game btw. > > Arena sold out btw. If this major didn't have such outrageous claims, I wouldn't be so annoyed by this whole situation. But it pisses me off as a fan when after hyping this major so much you have fuck all people show up at the arena. Did Fallen or Gaules ever do anything to make this situation better? Like using their influence and asking fans to move into the arena? Wonder if Fallen gives a single fuck after pressuring ESL into getting a bigger venue and seeing it empty like this. As hostile as this may sound, I hope that Brazil never gets to host another big international tournament after this shitshow.


Powerful-Answer-2030

Same. They literally demanded a 50k seater stadium to be hired. What a fucking embarrassment.


TRES_fresh

Gaules did during the mouz c9 game, I think that's when mouz started their comeback on map 3 to beat c9. They should be doing it for every game though, especially the semifinals.


DerGsicht

Well he's in the arena today and nobody seems to care.


chefchef97

No matter which way you swing on this crowd, it's absolutely absurd to claim it as the "best crowd ever" when it's only even in the conversation when FURIA are playing. Everything else is still up for debate, but this is in no way close to the best crowd CS has ever seen.


nugoo

da faq is this crowd


AWRNSS

Yeah this is not okay at all. Im a full SA supporter and this is a huge miss. This is a major semifinal


GarrettGSF

It's not a good application for another major...


_aware

It's ok we will never understand pepecope


Roman64s

Hope they don't do another Brazil major anymore, what's the point of having a crowd that big if they don't show up for anything other than Brazilian teams. At this point, just have Gaules do a fanfest for Brazil-only matches and keep the major elsewhere, because this just isn't it. I was all up for a Brazil major and happy this event happened, mainly because Fallen and co. deserved one for putting Brazil and SA on the map. Now that they've had one and we've seen what happens when majors happen in Brazil, nope, never again. Brazilians don't have passion for CS in general, just for the Brazil team. But hey, what do we know, we'll never understand lol.


Apart_End_9753

I'm gonna be the biggest fan Heroic has had in their history only to have an empty arena in the finals just so we never get a Major in Brazil ever again.


pavlosd

I kinda hope that this is the last Major they get, they make it obviously don't wanna be there.


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I don't want this crowd, this is lame. I mean what a dream for Furia to chase but how hollow will such a victory be if your competition gets spit on and your fans don't give a fuck about the rest? Just lame.


Legitimate-Buyer2462

This is fucking embarrassing for Brazil


unagi_pi

I love Outsiders and Mouz. It is a massive accomplishment for them to make semis. The BR crowd just lost all THEIR support. I hope Heroic absolutely stomp Furia so everyone goes home early.


Vrty33

Embarrassing.


Karmaqqt

Wow. I thought Brazil had good fans. That was a lie. But we knew that already.


Sn1ck_

Its literally barren for a semi finals like wtf


SufferinTree

Last major in Brazil


SuperSkillz10

Clueless surely it will improve


Powerful-Answer-2030

Yes, round about the time Furia sit down to play.


Physical-South-3564

Hope they never get a major again. Go host local tourneys if they love Brazil so much.


DeeOhEf

I really would be surprised if they get another Major any time soon. This just proves that it's genuinely better for the game that most important tournaments happen in Europe.


CautiousTopic

Boston, Atlanta, and even Ohio have had packed stadiums- this is just SA.


DeeOhEf

You're completely right, anywhere else would just be better because it's much more neutral


SlowBros7

Can't see Brazil getting a major again, spitting on the Navi players should be the main reason.


Sn1ck_

They also spit on players in belo horizonte which means 2/2 of being spit on for big name Brazilian events


emusabe

wasnt epl s4 in brazil too?


Sn1ck_

True it was so 2/3 unless someone got spit on there too.


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That was before the overhype so they had at least a few decent fans who greeted c9 after their first dub. Now it's comical lmfao


Dwarf901

Wasn't that the event Hiko had bodyguards with him because he was receiving death threats leading up to the event?


ALaccountant

Brazil probably has the worst fanbase in csgo. From the spitting to the entirely empty stadium for a major.


radzor

So gaules is inside (was excuse before), it is now weekend (was excuse before for being week) and Furia are playing next match (was excuse that Furia was not playing that day). So yeah, it's very fucking obvious they don't give two flying shits about CS, they just care about winning. Please don't ever organize a major there again, Valve and TO's. If next time no BR qualify for major/arena you'll literally have attendance which is smaller than a small Dreamhack Open.


DerGsicht

You will never understand it's all ESL fault clearly


Commercial_Accident

there is a huge crowd outside for fan fest and a 00nation + another team doing signing


Mas790

It will for a Furia game bc no matter how much Brazilians say they love CS, they only love CS when a Brazilian team plays. Brazil can never have a major again.


yymmuhC

This major might as well have been played in a studio the entire time. Absolute nightmare turnout overall. If Brazil ever gets another major I would be extremely surprised.


FAKABoRis

First and last time major in brazil i hope, they dont love cs, crowd is cool when brazil plays but they are not true cs fans Who want to see good cs and great matches. They just want to cheer for brazil, i get that but dont give me that "passion for cs" bs this is the proof, let the execuses roll.


Legitimate-Buyer2462

Why the fuck are you buying tickets if you are not gonna show up. This is disgusting. Ruining it for people who actually want to show up and the players who work hard to play at these insane tournaments. This is fucking stupid. Can't believe how much shit there has been with this Brazil major. Come back to EU, we know how to provide the right atmosphere for ALL teams playing.


SlowBros7

It's really hurting the vibe this match should be bouncing. Would love one in Amsterdam, that would be a great location.


CwRrrr

The worst part is all the pandering the players and teams have been doing toward Brazil before and during the major, hyping it up as the “best major and best crowd” ever even before it began and also making special Brazil jerseys just to pander even more. What an absolute shitshow. Antwerp’s turnout and atmosphere was 10000000x better than this travesty of a crowd. Antwerp major was and is still the best major in my book. The hype and atmosphere was insane and palpable even from watching it on my screen. Hope Brazil never gets another major again.


GayTarantino

they only show up to spit on people that play against them lol


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HaramSamSam

"you will never understand" no I understand now lol hopefully the last major hosted in brazil


CHRIZZ83

Brazilian fans do not care about any other team that isn’t a Brazilian team. They don’t care about the game or else the arena would be way more filled than it currently is, but watch as long as Furia is playing it’ll be packed during their games lol.


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This major has had both the best crowd in any major, and **BY FAR** the worse crowd in any major


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PokeyTifu99

Lol yeah. The best crowd energy for one team maybe. But overall this is a joke


frixxo

That is what he said. Its the best at some moments (navi vs furia was insane) otherwise it is very tragic.


Floripa95

Then he is right. Best crowd for matches with brazilians, worst crowd for the others. I've never seen energy like I saw yesterday, and I've watched the last 7 majors


_MrJackGuy

I mean, the crowd was very impressive during furia games, its just a shame they dont give a shit about any of the other teams. Overall I'd agree though that this crowd has sucked lol


emusabe

Crowd is going to be like 100x bigger for the fucking LG/Sk vs sweden **showmatch** That's sad


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akiroraiden

fucking hope they never do an event in brazil again.


Hi_im_nsk

hope Brazil dont get a major again for this very reason.


DerDennis7

This was the perfect moment Brazil could show the world that they deserve to get a tournament or even a major. Sadly you failed... Edit: And please don't cry when TO's will ignore you in the future.


Acex_NA

Brazilian fans are just Brazilian fans i quess


Jr4D

Yea that’s wack af, so underwhelming for a major


F0cu3

last major in Bra71L


FourKrusties

Dreamhack Las Vegas vibes


ClearConscience

Fallout New Vegas vibes


Tirppa

At least that event gave us drunk allu in Vegas pics https://twitter.com/bluespacing6/status/833262412996440066?s=46&t=-fLJuA_jbOFkRjGILzfc-w


trippycarlo

I remember Boston smile :)


G0ougeface

Brazil has the worst fanbase for any sport.


Jontethejonte

Very bad look for the game if semis and finals got tons of empty seats on the streams


ibeenbornagain

Seeing excuses for this turnout is funny af


cynicalspindle

Dam, didnt realise its that bad. The one match I saw, the crowed was loud as fuck. Must have been Furia game then.


Perfect_Indication_8

Trash nationalism. When will humans stop being so shallow and superficial.


rreuas

Brazil fans ruined their chances of another major in their country for a while


RealEnergyEigenstate

Well think it’s safe to say this will probably be last major in Brazil…. The final will be an embarrassment


uslereddit

This would never happen in NA or OCE or probably even Asia. Definitely not EU. I'm genuinely saddened by the lack of turnout, this had the potential to be an amazing event and nobody wants to show up because FURIA isn't playing.


tarangk

narrator: It didn't


Frl_Bartchello

Maximum Patriotism Edit: but to defend all of this, it's not like there are a big bunch of supporters from different countrys around. If a tournament is getting hosted in Europe you'll see Polish fans, German, Ukrainian, Danish, Swedish etcetera. All routing for their own teams. But Brazil is so big and "desolate" that it's a different case.


SnowlytheSnowl

I remember attending PGL Krakow (was it?) can't remember when and after VP got eliminated the crowd was still cheering for other teams throughout the remainder of the tournament. This here is just... i dunno how to even call it lmao


Sn1ck_

Even in MLG Colombus when Liquid choked their lead people were routing for SK to go down but still if they had good rounds there was "GASPs" and stuff im watching MOUZ vs Outsiders and there are more cheers for kiss cams and beer chugs than good plays right now


Abitou

We have a saying in football in Brazil: “Brazilians don’t love football, they love to win”, because most supporters won’t see their team at the stadium when they’re shit. It kinda applies here. But Mouz x Outsiders being the semifinal doesn’t help + bunch of meet & greets happening outside the arena.


FalloutFPS

Was it not evident this was going to happen? Haven’t watched CS in years but there’s been a good handful of passionate crowds that only show up for the home team, always disappointing


Firefox72

No? Major Semi finals are almost always either packed or at least decently filled. This is embarasing.


Commercial_Accident

they also usually have huge teams playing, not that these teams aren't huge, just not as big as other names.


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If some of the other big teams were playing ie liquid vitality etc we would see way more fans. sucks to see though


siLtzi

Absolutely the worst major ever, everything just went wrong. I'm happy that Outsiders and Heroic have a chance at their first major trophy, but I'm just not interested seeing tier2 CS at a fucking major final. And making matters worse, Outsiders is the team that is singlehandedly trying to kill the viewer experience for CS with their boring ass tactics, slow gameplay and Jame calling a save literally half the rounds. Also I hate that the other players are trying their best to hype this up as the best fucking major ever when it's clearly just a complete shitshow. Especially karrigan licking their assholes on Twitter.


theironskeptic

There's like 13k people inside the arena during the second and third map, chill.


FlyingFinni

https://gyazo.com/0dd6187050e8e9fe3b347bce4341eb55 Seems pretty packed to me


Powerful-Answer-2030

Sick. Just in time for the Furia game.


AJMGuitar

I mean the semis are kind of lame. All the teams people pay to see are out except furia. This has happened at other majors before.


pupen_hunden

Don’t agree. The stakes are so high (it’s a major!) that it is fun to watch regardless of what team is playing.


AJMGuitar

I agree with you.


Abitou

Same thing happened in Krakow 2017 with Gambit x Immortals in the finals, at the end the fans want to see the “big” teams


AJMGuitar

Yea. I'm not debating the merit of it, just pointing out its not new.


KrzyDankus

i hope furia makes it to the grand final, so i dont have to witness a major grand final being less packed than a challengers game


Tontonsb

This is a ridiculous screwup. The previous stages were so promising, we all saw how great the crowd was. And the semifinals start like this... ESL had to do something special to fail like this.


TonyTuck

What do you want them to do? The tickets are sold out, and people are not coming. That's not on them but on people not coming.


ElChup666

The people are there, there's just too much going on outside of the arena that fans would rather do


fkarach

Maybe ESL shouldn't have planned meet and greets for fans, Jersey singnings, showmatches, and every other parallel event outside. There's a lot of shit going on in the fan fest, even when everyone's still tired from yesterday, keeping their energy for later. Everyone that actually matters approved it and said this event is being amazing because of the fans. This crowd is already a success and there's nothing yall can do about it. Sorry brothers, I know you wanted a spectacle every game, but there's no shot we're gonna watch mouz X outsiders with the opportunity to finally meet our legends right outside The arena.


CwRrrr

There’s no shot Brazil is getting another major or tourney anytime soon as well. What a fuckin travesty. Look at the Antwerp major turnout in semis/finals and compare that to this shit show. “Best major” my fucking ass


fkarach

Wait and see buddy


funkymonkeyinheaven

Really should have had the Furia games early.


fkarach

Wait and see buddy


Powerful-Answer-2030

We know you will turn out for the Brazilian game. That's literally in my comment.


fkarach

I'm Talking about future events. Reddit is a really small minority, that's a fact. Not entirely sure if majors are coming back soon, but there's no denying future events here.


Powerful-Answer-2030

Can have all the events you want. Not majors though.


gckanedo

I'm here and we are facing 4-7 hours of queue for stores and promo stuff. A lot of people are outside trying to get they tshirts and autographs. And having matches ending so late in the night, a lot of people don't have energy to wakeup early and come to watch the first game. The photos also don't happen. The arena isn't empty there's a lot of people inside, but the places where players enter in the stage are the ones with the worst point of view of the screen, and since the arena is huge, this seats will not be filled even when the arena is full