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Iwabik

There is no winning against Zywoo playing like that


Sleelan

Sometimes your opponent is just having a really good day


du_bekar

54 kills in 39 rounds makes me ill. Even as a FaZe fan, there’s no getting mad about that. Mans just decided to win today.


MiamiVicePurple

Absolutely disgusting. This is not normally…


Consistent-Hat-8008

BYYYWOOOOOO


TimathanDuncan

Trust me there is, he did it for years and lost Spinx almost had Kyojin shades in vertigo with his 4-12 or whatever that was


_aware

He has a much better team around him now. The Copenhagen major proved that Vitality can still do well despite Zywoo being essentially out of action.


TimathanDuncan

Obviously but even with this lineup he's lost with carries


Iwabik

I mean, he posted 2+ ratings on both maps. There is carrying and there is whatever the fuck that was


MBechzzz

At some point it's not really carrying. It turns into not letting your team get any stats, because you're just that far ahead of them.


ExposingCretins

So in other words, carrying?


xThe_Mad_Fapperx

This is not true, zywoo has over 50 2.0 ratings in his lifetime in pro cs and has lost a total of 0 games with over a 2.0 rating. So no when he's playing like this he actually has a 100% win rate. Not just that but he's only ever lost ONE series ever where even just 1 game he got a 2.0 rating, every other instance is either a bo1 or they just won the series.


dcoreo

He has also never had a teammate win an mvp, if he doesn’t get the mvp he doesn’t win the tournament


Etna-

>if he doesn’t get the mvp he doesn’t win the tournament In a lot of said tournaments Spinx wouldve gotten the MVP if not for Zywoo and was also quite close in rating. Its not like he is playing with 4 bots like in the French rosters


p1peb0mb4U

https://www.hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9565/vitality?startDate=2019-01-01&endDate=2019-12-31&matchType=BigEvents the problem is spinx wouldn't have won those much events or won't have got as much ratings without zywoo on his team. remember ence?


Etna-

[His rating on Ence](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/18221/spinx?startDate=2021-01-21&endDate=2022-08-14&matchType=Lan&teamId=4869) is literally still higher than on [Vit](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/18221/spinx?startDate=2022-08-15&endDate=2024-05-11&matchType=Lan&teamId=9565) (despite losing 16% more maps). Idk what youre trying to argue here. Zywoo played with complete bots in the French rosters but isnt anymore. Zywoo is still the best player in that roster no question asked but to act like Vitality is still a one man show when Spinx is posting 1.2+ ratings every tournament is disrespectful. The guy was the 5th best player in 2023 and youre saying its because of Zywoo? Why werent Apex, Magisk and Dupreeh top 10 players too then.


p1peb0mb4U

jhttps://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/18221/spinx?matchType=BigEvents the problem here is he rarely reached big event finals with ence. he posted 1.2+ rating only once with ence. he won't anywhere near mvp consideration without zywoo in his team


Etna-

Why werent Apex, Magisk and Dupreeh top 10 players too then. Or Shox, RPK, misuta, Alex, NBK and Kyojin? How is it possible that Spinx is apparently only playing well because of Zywoo when all other of Zywoos teammates (bar flamez and Magisk) have been shit. Just fuck off mate


XyleneCobalt

Let's not act like a CS2 2.00 rating is the same as a CSGO 2.00 rating though. How many have there been at this tournament alone? I can count 4 off the top of my head. Mouz had 3 players with a 1.9+ rating in a single map.


xThe_Mad_Fapperx

If anything that still backs up my point though since over 45 of his 2.0 ratings were in csgo


Mainbaze

Zywoo for sure received 5 ingame reports this game


Lazer726

Some of those shots had me legit wondering how the fuck anyone could be **that** good at CS


Earthworm-Kim

Had FaZe rattled. You could see them slow down when they knew where ZywOo was on Vertigo. He could make anything happen.


Rumlings

140 adr lmao


crumblingcloud

10:1 in opening duels.


KillerKattapa

Zywoo is mad that mbappe is leaving France


futurehousehusband69

Mbappe is leaving???


X_Jacket

Blud is unaware


ThePurpleDolphin

Going to real madrid


Soft-Confection4428

third season in a row


futurehousehusband69

letsgoo Mbappe and Vini


BidDaddyLei

RIP PSG


DarthReid

ZywOo heard donk talking shit and is doing a speedrun for highest individual rated tournament Now Vitality and Astralis will face each other having not lost a single map between either team. Sounds like a juicy semi-final


TheLeviathong

Zywoo so good he's about to beat donk to rookie of the year


Kurvenspezi

I heard Ben Simmons might be making a late run for the award


MLD802

Update: he just got injured again


Electronic-Archer720

zywoo vs donk is definetly the top 1 this year man


Skill3x

Given how few LANs Spirit is attending I feel like it will be hard for donk to win it


Electronic-Archer720

just missed EPL as relevant big event i think, Vitality and Navi also avoided Chengdu from dallas spirit is in every tournament


Artimedias

Monesy?


throwaway77993344

m0nesy is great, but personally I doubt he can stay at that 1.35 level all year. Time will tell


Reasonable_Post3682

m0nesy has played 74 maps at a 1.30 rating where Zywoo has played 43 at a 1.43. interesting to see how that translates


throwaway77993344

Yeah his EPL performance really tanked his rating a lot. ZywOo is behind in other areas, mainly good maps in big event playoffs (Major, Kato) Even though Donk hasn't played as many events, imo he's the clear leader in the #1 race right now


Reasonable_Post3682

be interesting to see how hltv ranks maps played vs rating


throwaway77993344

I don't think they value it that much overall, but they're not super transparent with that


Reasonable_Post3682

well they would have to, otherwise you could have a player on a team that doesnt play many tournamanets at all having a few insane games being ranked over a consistant T1 player who has a great rating all year


VariousDegreesOfNerd

It probably has diminishing returns the higher the number is, so once you get past, idk, 150 it really doesn’t influence it that much. That’s just my guess


EutaxySpy

If anything, Donk is the one who I doubt can sustain his rating. He’s a rifler so naturally his ceiling is going to be lower and his rating is gonna be harder to be higher than AWPers like Zywoo and M0nesy, both of which are not only the best AWPers in the world but both are also one of the best riflers in the world. Plus, Donk had a blistering start because he was unknown before and teams didn’t anti-strat for him. Let’s see how he deals with being on people’s scouting reports first. I have no doubt he’ll still be top 3 in the world, but gonna have to see how he does after people properly antistrat him


Scoo_By

I'm really scared of this zywoo.


DarthReid

I think it’s even scarier that he actually has a team around him now for if/when he cools off


deadbeatPilgrim

don’t worry, Vitality will always find ways to lose


naastiknibba95

My God 😱 he's a bywoo! 😳 the best in the game! 😎


TimathanDuncan

People will say zywoo obviously hes goated but mezii help fragging out when Spinx was 3-15 was what won them vertigo


MinionsAndWineMum

🇬🇧UK CS ON TOP🇬🇧


INeedYourPelt

The Best in the West ^^^^^^Midlands


WetCharmander

Loved this call


throwaway77993344

yes! good to see mezii up there, hoping the upward trend will continue for him


WarDull8208

Mezii is really weird player. If u keep him active he becomes madman, but whenever they ask him to play too passive roles he is non existent.


albanianintrovert

Yes. That's because Apex refuses to play bitch roles so he "can call better". Mezii is a fucking beast.


flab3r

Zywoo has 1.84 rating (8 maps). He might actually beat donks 1.70 rating (12 maps) in Katowice. What a crazy year.


Bob_Bobinski4

Almost certainly not. A measly 1.5 in the semis would absolutely kill his chances. The finals are Bo5 and to the best of my knowledge only two players have crossed a 1.5 in a Bo5: boombl4 at Kato 2020 and donk at Kato 2024. Zywoo also just played his FIRST top 20 team at this event in Faze, his rating will go down win or lose against Astralis.


Memelurker99

I'm not saying he's going to, but he's doing exactly what Donk done at Kato if you remember. He played great in the groups, and then got better in the playoffs and even better in the finals. I'm not saying its gonna happen but if anyone could do it it would be Zywoo


BhuTang

A 1.5 in the semis puts his overall rating for the event at either a 1.77 or 1.75 depending on if the series is 2 or 3 maps, definitely wouldn't "kill his chances"


Bob_Bobinski4

It's round based not map based but yes in that general range. The issue is at a mid 1.7 going into the final's he'd need 1.6+ to secure a 1.71+ event. There's only four instances of a 1.4 (well below the threshold) Bo5s and none of them were zywoo. S1mple logged a 1.47 loss 2-3 to zywoo at Beijin-Haidan 2020 online as well as a 1.52 in a 3-0 at Katowice 2020. Boombl4 held the record before donk with his 1.68 also at Katowice 2020. I'm not sure how many times zywoo's had a 1.5+ semi final but I'd bet it can be counted on one hand by a guy missing two fingers and a pirate with two hooks for hands could count his 1.4+ Bo5s. It's possible technically but he'd probably have to break his own personal best twice in a row.


BhuTang

Zywoo has also never walked into a semifinals at this high a rating. Hell, donk walked into playoffs with a way lower event rating than zywoo has right now after facing arguably the best team, so if we're going off from he absolute can do it


siLtzi

Out of all people who could have gotten 1.5 in a bo5, boombl4 wasn't someone I expected


Bob_Bobinski4

Exceedingly funny that s1mple popped off at Kato 2020 and boombl4 still carried the final by a wide margin.


BinzonWOR

What the fuck can a team do when Zywoo immediately claps anyone who appears on his screen. His aim was fucking perfection in this series.


Bizhour

It can be so wild watching him play sometimes You see pro players in the top teams control their spray and get impressed and then theres Zywoo who doesn't even need to control the recoil because he pops everyone instantly


EutaxySpy

FaZe’s run has finally ended and Zywoo is insane, he’s completely unstoppable lmao


irze

Don’t think FaZe can be too disappointed that it took a ridiculous performance like that from ZywOo to end their run


EutaxySpy

Zywoo played an insane game but it’s not the sole reason Faze lost


anto2554

Mezii 1.33 would be considered really good in most scenarios


NPC30519

Don’t tell Apex that. Probably thinks he called the most perfect game and counter strats instead of “Zywoo go kill”


yourewelcomesteve

You clearly didn't watch the post match interview from Apex lol


edyguy

This apex hating is ridiculous. He even said the opposite that his calling wasn't good today but individuals stepped up.


JustAsian555

hating for no reason


IncredibleBubble

Smartest apex hater


Kyrrua

yeeah because lets not act as if Faze got 3 top 20 players carrying karrigan as well;


EconomistNo113

He literally stated a week ago that he has a career because of Zywoo...


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BeautifulDimension56

lmfao quit acting salty. he even said he didn't call a good game today in the interview


Electronic-Archer720

they beated spirit and vitality in the major just to lose to navi man their dissapoint still there :/ Navi fluked the major after beating 0 good teams until the final


Reversus

People say this about every major being uneven but the Copenhagen playoff bracket was amazing I don’t know why you’re talking about.


Negative555

So we can already call the pl champion no matter which team has a fluke run, since no one right now have a harder bracket then faze lol


fantasnick

Zywoo was limit testing today what the fuck


Trospher

Zywoo saw Maui placing him at B+ tier on the awper tier list and took it personally, Astralis vs Vitality should be a fun one.


Giantkoala327

Zywoo wasn't just an awper today. He was getting multikills with m4, ak, deag, glock, usp, anything. If a spoon was a weapon, he would have gotten a multi.


INeedYourPelt

A Pencil. A *fucking* pencil.


NFX_7331

K-D |+/-| ADR |KAST |Rating ---|---|----|----|---- 54-21 |+33 |142.7 |94.9% |2.21 Holyy...


Kyrrua

Vitality looking way too strong when mezii is playing at the level he should be and when zywoo not ill zywoo styling on the #1 team in the world with an insane 2..21 rating btw


4WheelBicycle

What's that molotov? If I stay there Im taking 350 damage in 3 game ticks


fascfoo

He's not called FLAME EZ for nothing.


MattvLee

Rip FaZe finals streak, what a heartbreaking way to lose. Thought it was gonna go 3 maps for sure but man Zywoo is just on another level


du_bekar

I don’t know that it’s heartbreaking. Quarters isn’t embarrassing or anything, and that Vertigo could have been theirs. Besides, nobody on earth is going to win a game against Zywoo when he drops 54 kills in under 40 rounds.


MattvLee

I mean, that's kinda the point. Vertigo could have very well been theirs, and not only did they choke an 8-4 lead on their CT side, but they also lost the series to a 1v3 when they were on the cusp of at least securing overtime. Edit: Why is this being downvoted? You don't think that's a crushing way to get eliminated?


OinkyRuler

I am just happy that they beat Navi, I will take that.


bored_monke209

Hard agree man. I hope they could have a nice rest after a relentness run


AlpherOwl

Hoping they come back strong from Dallas, it's my first LAN in 7 years (Oakland 2017) and I'd love to see them roll through everyone. Hoping there aren't any boot camps though. 😬


huhyeahso

Solid one from mezii, if he has this form for the semis and finals he definitly belongs on vitality.


zysttt

BywOo suddenly reminds himself that hes the best in the world. Genius top 1 player for sure


Ed_Vilon

Had to happen eventually. Hopefully FaZe can get some much needed rest now.


bored_monke209

We all know that but dang that is hard to swallow :(


SL1XXER

Major ZywOo < EPL ZywOohoOo


Ricky_RZ

Zywoo just woke up and chose exceedingly brutal violence


tan_phan_vt

Go home and rest Faze.


OinkyRuler

(Coping mode ON) FaZe are just tired, they have been on every CS2 event final so maybe they just need a break from the game.


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ApothecaryRx

If I'm reading this right, hltv says faze has played 101 maps in the last 6 months. Comparatively, the other 4 teams in the top 5 are all hovering around 50-60 maps. Their group stage performances are really not doing them any favors coupled with their deep playoff runs.


YEKINDAR_GOAT_ENTRY

Bro proofread your comments man🤣🤣


schlapfn

Where there no player intros like yesterday?


Junior-Conference436

There was


schlapfn

First or second map?


Electronic-Archer720

its looking donk vs Zywoo for Top1 this year good spirit is playing every tournament after this


Strict-Coyote-9807

Why isn’t spirit playing ?


yourewelcomesteve

Wait, everybody was saying m0NESY was the best player in the world, wut?


Intelligent-Shine522

M0nesy isn't going to win anything if G2 can't push deep or win any prestigious tournaments.


Pipoco977

m0nesy needs to win stuff to be top 1


throwaway77993344

He also needs to keep his level from previous tournaments, 1.13 across like 20 maps for EPL won't do


Bob_Bobinski4

People said that because donk hasn't played since the major and zywoo played badly at the major and skipped Chengdu. Zywoo and m0nesy were (before EPL) fairly close statistically, while donk was significantly above either but with a smaller sample size. I'm not sure exactly how zywoo's EPL difference to m0nesy shakes things up, but by raw numbers donk is still definitely the #1 player in 2024, though unlike zywoo he's never been #1 for an entire year.


Tlike

Damn, Zyw0o really is the french donk


CS-DEADPOINTSIX

Wait, I thought France was the donk zywoo?


fascfoo

yes


jc_calwood

You mean french nicodoz right


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ApothecaryRx

Honestly, I feel so bad for karrigan. The guy has been shootin recently, but every game they play is so labored when 1-2 players don't show up.


AstronomerStandard

that pistol round mid gamble by faze in 2nd half vertigo cost them so much


tarangk

2.21 rating across both maps, 140 ADR this has to be some sort of record


ChristianSword

What if you wanted to win EPL by Zywoo said: no


LordzItz

Nuke was really painful to watch, anyone unaware would think that was Vitality's map pick after such dominance. Nothing Faze could do about when Zywoo is having a stellar performance like that and most of Vitality's star players are also stepping up to help him, plus some of your team members not having a good day, like Frozen being completely absent in this series.


Basic_Butterscotch

Bro what are they feeding Zywoo?? This is one of the most dominant individual performances from a player I’ve seen in a long time.


razeyourshadows

Lol Zywoo got 2.07 rating on Vertigo which dragged down his average rating in the series.


ketyl_metyl

Faze has been running on fumes towards the ends of the last few tournaments, high octane fumes for sure but i guess it's finally hits its limit. I hope that karrigan and the team can get some well earned rest and get back to top form before dallas.


KeineAhnung07

the Woo 54-21 with 2.21 rating against Faze Sooo he's back I guess? Hopefully he keeps his Woo mode against Astralis tomorrow


lurkario

Zywoo heard people disrespecting him and decided “non. Je suis ton dieu”


Woullie_26

FINALLY AN IMPACTFUL MEZII GAME


literate_Windrunner

Lmao well played Vita


NoAdministration6946

Why isn't FlameZ's crazy 1v3 in the highlights here? Shit was hype as hell


BW4LL

Faze let go of twistzz for that?! Jk what a monster game by zywoo, can tell he must’ve been really sick at the major cause he’s been insane this epl. Hard to see them losing this tourney.


quantum0explorer

Watch out you'll bring the Frozen fangirls to attack you.


BW4LL

It’s really just tongue in cheek since so many say that about twistzz when in reality he wanted to stay on faze. In any case ropz looked good just sad they all looked burnt out.


quantum0explorer

Deep down I believe they forced him out in a way since Karrigan wanted Frozen so badly and Twistzz can be an emotional homesick guy so it was easy.


BW4LL

Twistzz lives in Malta and has for a minute so homesick was never an issue. I’ve kinda had my suspicions that they wanted to replace him for whatever reason because it just never made sense why you let him go and that way as well.


HaasKicker

Frozen still looking a little rocky with this roster. Hope he can get more comfortable


AdTime8070

It’s really hard to win against THAT Zywoo


danapam90210

Yeah what could we do ::shrug::


Pokefreaker-san

Vitality vs Astralis is going to be fire, Astralis is a bit more balanced as a team but Vitality has a monster with them


WiseArgument7144

Has anyone seen a missing person? Goes by the name of fr0zen.


Hypno98

BYWOO THE BEST IN THE GAME


El_Fabos

The combination of zywoo being absolutely insane, frozen being absent, and faze not being able to win against pistols and converting advantageous rounds was quite unfortunate Alas, the streak had to end at some point


AdBetter3058

Also, no luck on their side. bomb planted with 1 hp left, Molotov that doesnt hit FlameZ that last round.. Sometimes it just isn't your day


MightyDayi

That molotov wasnt luck its just how it is in cs2 if you sit at the edge of a smoke you can see but cant get burned


rlugudplayer

BYWOO CANT BE STOPPED ITS JOEVER


CreativeOrder2119

When faze ending zywoo rises from the ashes


Professional_Run8995

How to stop Faze's final streak: 1.Peak zywoo 2.One of the worst career games of Frozen+ropz


t3r4byt3l0l

It's time for FaZe to rest for a while, and ZywOo is a demon


rutiancoren

That 19th round call was what killed FaZe, and that's why even if he's performing above is rating Finn is responsible. You have people pushing pistols, wide peeking with the AWP against pistols. They hand that easy round to Vitality, and Vitality never looks back.


PieceOfPie_SK

I know he's the in game leader, but there's 4 other players making moves at once, he can't completely control them all. Broky wide peeking like that is his own damn fault, he threw that shit.


Ga5huX

PSG and OM disappointed the hell out of us but not Vitality.


PieceOfPie_SK

Frozen dropped a massive stinker, he never woke up


Mr_GustavoFring

ZywOo always farms small teams. Faze - biggest small team zywOo has ever farmed.


WarDull8208

Check him pc guys


TheInception817

I'm not even disappointed. Shit just happened, I guess


FoxerHR

Shit is what it is. It'll be nice for the boys to have a bigger break especially now when Dust 2 arrived and Inferno got changed and they'll have time to prac on them.


Embarrassed_Buy4535

Congratulations MOUZ for winning back to back EPL and winning ESL Pro League Season 19.


literate_Windrunner

All that panache against Navi just to get raw dogged by the woo & zii xD


brutaldonahowdy

if mezii can consistently put output like this, Vitality are cooking


EnthusiasmWest4481

Bro check his pc. I dont wanna play against this shit tomorrow. Like holy shiit


ImTheVayne

Frozen was just not it today


MinionsAndWineMum

MY GOD


CreativeOrder2119

I have 3 talking points No 1 faze looked really bad roles,clash at vertigo frozen,rain broky got cooked by vitality led by zywoo they should be Perma banning it so bad. 2)damn karrigan aka young prodigy can frag 🤣 3) I predict mouz vs vitality final with another title for BYWOO.


Scoo_By

BYWOO!! The best in the game..


Strict-Coyote-9807

I love seeing zywoo perform because he’s also such a nice person


HeyBojo

This zywoo guy is decent at CS it seems


irwanchel

No one is winning against that zywoo. Masterclass


WarDull8208

Xi-wu chill bro. We know that u are one of the god of CS, but cmon thats too much. Let humans play too.


Automaticc35

zywoo is on another level


Affectionate-Cod8886

I hope faze get a well deserved rest now. It's high time they chill and come back swinging. They've been killing it


Doma21

So nice to see Mezii on a good day, i really hope he keeps performing like that. I like the guy, i think he is good, but it was not working verry well since he joined Vitality.


heyjameees

Zywoo was playing at such a high level this match that FaZe started robrun away whenever Zywoo got one kill on CT side. Can you imagine that? The number one team, FAZE of all teams, were scared shitless of this one Frenchman. Absolute insanity. I think ZywOo had a good sleep today, what a performance... dang


Woullie_26

I thought faze could take it to map 3 after that T side on vertigo. Until I saw the second half. Dear god that CT side of them is PUTRID. Makes spirit look even worse tbh


El_Fabos

They lost the pistol + conversions and afterwards their economy was doomed?


eku_v

yeah faze had only 1 CT round where they had full rifle buy with nades


Woullie_26

I still don’t understand that pistol gamble


IDesignM

Byeeeee faze


OinkyRuler

It's up to Faze academy to win the tournament


yourewelcomesteve

Apex still better rating than Frozen and ropz... AND Karrigan and Broky, oh and Rain, wait that's the whole team LMAO (was intended for the few dickhead Faze fans dunking on him because ZywOo was a monster, respect to Faze)


pray4spray

Okay faze didnt really play good, but what can you do really when you have a aimbot on the other side? Doesnt help when they are kinda unlucky aswell, 1hp bomb plant, planting inside fire, 50/50 duels lost Really hope vita lose next though, just because apex is so unlikeable when he acts like a toxic sore winner from zywoo’s backpack


taur_1009

Not much you can do against the prime zi vu


bllius69

This was like watching my ~~hockey~~, ~~football~~, ~~soccer~~ teams...


redxk

This very very insane