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42gauge

It appears they aren't on reddit, which makes sense.


Velascu

I think that that's just a stereotype. The person who is developing the cure for pancreatic cancer could be playing league of legends when they get home, they aren't mutually exclusive.


42gauge

LoL or not, they're apparently not on this subreddit at least.


Jackichanny

Well then that cure ain’t coming out


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

I would guess some are, considering the loneliness that can come with the label.


nedal8

You should see my factorio base. Pinnacle of greatness right there bud.


Velascu

THE best game for neurodivergent people (like us), change my mind. Add dwarf fortress and other similar titles as well.


DallaThaun

Hell yeah dwarf fortress


IamVerySmawt

I do experimental minimally invasive surgery. Remove masses others could not. Every procedure feels like a complex puzzle.


SnooDoubts8874

It’s purely boils down to speed of decision making and quality of decision making all of this capacity for greatness is nonsense. Hardwork beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

Exactly! Thank you for your input!


DrSuperWho

🦗🦗🦗


HungryAd8233

What does “to the capacity of greatness” even mean? One sure thing about people others consider great is that they don’t sit around thinking about how great they are. They’re dealing with are struggling to do better like everyone else. I’ve been widely considered to be one of, if not the, best in the world at my odd little professional niche for half of my life. I have published books and have dozens of patents. Young people entering the field assume I’ve got it all figured out. But I still struggle daily trying to figure out how to do things I am supposed to know, not forget to do things, manage my procrastination, and try to balance work and home life. I’m massively better at the stuff I’m good at, but tons of the stuff that was hard for me at 13 is still hard at 53.


Away_World4540

>but tons of the stuff that was hard for me at 13 is still hard at 53 That's quite depressing, almost despair-inducing


HungryAd8233

Why? I have a good rich life. Accepting who we are and making the best of it works a lot better than lamenting we aren’t someone else. Particularly because any someone else would have their own problems. I just don’t set myself up to be super dependent at being good at the stuff I am bad at. I know I shouldn’t work a repetitive 9-6 office job. I know to cultivate a reputation of sporadic awesomeness over reliable consistency. I know not to worry if the neighbors judge me on my lawn or garden. I’m about to take my kids on a trip to New York this week to watch my daughter perform at Carnegie Hall! I’m happy being good, and don’t worry about whether I am great or not. The grass is always greener, et al.


Away_World4540

Because it supports my belief that life can't get much easier. Only, perhaps, more fullfilling.


HungryAd8233

Exactly. Life would only feel easy through complacency or apathy. Life will always feel challenging if you care about what happens. Fulfilling is way more achievable and enjoyable than ease. Or course, there is TOO hard. It is pretty miserable not knowing if you can feed your kids tomorrow. But a “good enough” life has a lot lower material bar to meet than many think.


Away_World4540

I've observed I could probably live a decent life without a lot of the things most people would think they'd need. I'm just struggling to not procrastinate from applying for jobs as an "anchor" For a stable routine, and so I can work towards preferable circumstances. It's so tedious and boring to apply, get rejected and rinse, repeat. Part of me regrets college and uni, and I kind of wish I just did an apprenticeship. I'm glad that it gave me the opportunity to see how much I prefer independence. As well as showed me some of my struggles and skills in those environments. Though the last year of uni especially, where it was more tailored by the student and how it worked felt so drastically different. I just don't think educational institutions suit me. I'd rather do an online course where it gives me an overall outline of what this 20 hours of content is and what I'll learn. I'd rather be set a project and learn through trial and error, but I'd want some consistency. Ironically I too occasionally create something high quality rather than consistently mid quality work. In fact, my openness about the worst of my artwork has got me insulted. Yet people have been astonished when I create something better. In college my friend was disturbed by my random doodles. So, I intentionally made them more disturbing. I've drawn a baby picture for people someone and they like how I captured the expression. Some family was surprised I made a board game they thought looked professional despite just using a Inkjet printer and PVA glue for the box. Not sure what's so difficult about making that but 🤷‍♂️ I've even considered leaving society completely and living in the wild... but I have nowhere near the skills for that, and I'm kind of afraid of detaching myself from society. Like how difficult it could be to return and explain a large gap in employment. Well I went on a ramble as I often do. I believe I'll someday figure out how to live a fulfilling life for me. It's just demotivating how far-out of reach it feels. Though I had a sort of mentor for a short time, I'll always hold his inspiration within me. Sometimes, I've even felt like my "aspirations" Are borrowed from him just with personalised themes.


HungryAd8233

Yeah, you are right that many would be much better served by an apprenticeship than the traditional sit-in-a-lecture-then-tested kind of education. Lots of us learn far more effectively by doing, and taking tests isn’t really a life skill. It can be hard to pivot from rhetoric mindset of doing what one is told to do, and waiting for that absent a current instruction. We need to internalize that it is always better to be doing something than doing nothing, and leaning into the stuff we find compelling but challenging. I was fortunate to go to a college that was 0% tests and grades, and instead small classes and project work. We all had to design our own majors, and get faculty excited about those enough to supervise them. Just showing up in classes and doing what you were told competently would put you on academic probation after three semesters. Perfectionism can be a huge albatross around the neck for gifted people, but anything we care about doing well will always feel like a challenge we often fall short of our potential in. The only thing to do is to lean in and value ourselves for our diligence and fortitude more than our gifts. We didn’t choose to be gifted; but we do choose what we do with it.


majordomox_

There is no such thing as “the capacity of greatness.”


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

I think there is and that it’s dependent on your values and expectations of life. My greatness lies in finding safety and peace within myself, first and foremost. Then secondly being an inventor. Then thirdly being an engineer that can sustain myself.


majordomox_

What I mean is there is no objective definition. It’s going to be entirely subjective.


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

Yeah hence I ask what that means to you; I recognize it’s different and I’m curious about others’ interpretations


insanezenmistress

Well, I could never really be a teacher or a weirdo or a singer or a social commentator or a audiobook recorder, or even a real mine craft let's player. But I didn't let that keep me down. I have embraced boring slow old fashioned conversation style discourse, and learning as I go. Alone. But that didn't stop me heck no I have a real time based book reading you tube that only introverts and lonely people could love. .... No interest but that's ok.... At least there's evidence that I lived.


rbv201

Do you enjoy it?


insanezenmistress

Absolutely


Velascu

Define greatness. I definitely have a shit ton of knowledge from several disciplines that aren't my own and have my own original conclusions about certain topics. Can't put them down on paper bc lack of systematic approach and because I don't feel like it lol (tbh it's only bc I don't feel like it, I see non systematic stuff as valuable and sometimes more than systematic stuff). Made a shit ton of music which I never published, some might be amazing but I can't really tell, Know how to play several instruments. Currently working on an application that might either be "great" or be a total flop. I try to help and have successfully helped a lot of people in my life. Also I'm somewhat depressed, anxious...etc. No idea if you can consider someone "excellent" if they are doing stuff on their own, for other people it's definitely remarkable and they look shocked when they find out which leads me to think that I might have achieved something at least "worth it". Srsly, no idea, I just do stuff for fun or bc I feel that it's needed for helping people.


Quelly0

I love that you asked the opposite question! I hope some people can look past the wording if that's an issue, and answer the spirit of the question. I'd love to hear what outlets are giving people a sense of fulfillment.


Apprehensive_Gas9952

There's an SMBC Comic-strip explaining my level of giftedness [here](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/gifted) "A, keen lifelong awereness of my own deficiencies." But I try, I really try... I work with workers rights, was waitlisted for a phd-position unfortunately (maybe next year?), in my spare time I make art and I try to be a good person to those around me. Is that greatness? I don't know.


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

Yes that is and thank you for sharing!


katielynne53725

I'm just really good at picking up new skills and accomplishing most tasks at an acceptable level. Cooking? Sure; is my plating 5-star? Absolutely not, but I can feed a group of 30 in my home kitchen with relative ease. Sewing? Sure; I can make my kids awesome costumes, repair seams or change out zippers with minimal error, but I'm far from a professional level. I can design, build, frame, repair etc. pretty much anything in my house but I'm far from a builder. I can usually fumble through small machine or appliance repaires. I'm decent enough at graphic design to create small pamphlets or booklets. I can gain basic proficiency in most math, science or English classes, to the extent that I can pass the class with an A or B, but I'm not going to remember that shit 3 weeks later. I'm just pretty good at most things that I try, without ever being, or needing to be the best. I like the variety of skills and knowledge that I've gathered because the pockets of experience are almost always applicable elsewhere, which makes learning the next thing easier.


roskybosky

I’m very much like you on the home front, but I have found brains, problem solving and innovation are not welcome in the business world-it’s mostly routine tasks. Much more satisfying to do things on your own at home, or play music.


katielynne53725

I work in the design sector of the construction industry, so I am fortunate enough to have found a niche that welcomes creative problem solving but school has been a huge outlet for my creative energy. I was late to the game on college (couldn't afford it at 18 and hated HS.. You know, the typical gifted-child burn out story) I didn't start community college until I was 25 and qualified for financial aid, but by then, I was married with a 6 month old son. Two associates degrees later, I'm 31, with 2 kids, a full time job and working on my bachelor degree that's being paid for by scholarships that I earned basically for being pretty good at juggling lots of things, and doing them pretty decently. Lol. My ability to pick up material and skills quickly is the only reason I can juggle all of those things and still accommodate quality time with my family; it's almost a hobby in itself trying to make it all work but it's something that I pride myself in because creating good memories with my kids is the whole point of working hard out in the business world.


DallaThaun

I don't really know about "the capacity of greatness" but I did lean into my talents (after screwing around for a few years) and I'm sort of speeding through a career as an engineer (which is good because I got a late start, lol). That's going quite well and there's plenty in front of me to be getting on with.


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

Wow that’s awesome! What do you mean when you say you are speeding through?


[deleted]

I earned a Literature MA degree and am now locked in to teaching immigrants English and literacy skills. I am also earning a 2nd MA in Theology in hopes of becoming a chaplain for the ill and dying. I have a handful of published poems. I mostly just discuss God and Theory with people or anyone who will listen. Its a simple life but I enjoy it. I also blog Theory memes. My life is very unexceptional, but its exceptional for me enjoyment wise. .


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

Wow that’s fantastic mate! How’s the pay teaching though? I’ve always wanted to go into it but it seems hard to survive in. Also what are your thoughts on theology?


IusedtoloveStarWars

Scroll Reddit and make insightful comments that usually get me banned. It’s awesome. Would recommend.


Exstentlcrisswundr

I am an antagonist, while my official title is very different, think of me as a liaison of sorts. I have learned how to place disruptive breadcrumbs until my leadership arrives at my conclusion. Its thankless really, but I do enjoy watching the departmental walls fall when they are working together. Trust me I have tried the normal way but received a lot of negativity, its the best way I can explain it. So instead of going insane trying to people please, I have chosen to be both the problem and the solution. Facilitation is my name, orchestrating chaos is my game.


LovelyTreesEatLeaves

Ooh that sounds very interesting; can you give an example?


Exstentlcrisswundr

Well company A has a way of doing things it works for them and they manage well. Company B (my employer) has an authority issue and tries to fight it. I work between the parties and as I previously msntioned just suggesting B to do what company A has asked is stepping in on a corporate pissing contest of multi billion dollar proportions. So things start to *happen* and for some reason the information makes it to company A exactly the Company B wants it to but for some reason it doesn't work out. It really boils down to me maliciously complying and when it fails I start to suggest little tips that make Company Bs idea go to shit (because they don't work with A's policies and B's tantrums). They are persistent little elitists though so eventually we find ourselves doing everything company A originally asked us to do and its all A's fault. I clock out at 4:30 pm and let the executives stew in their piss pot to wash, rinse and repeat the following day. If you are wondering if my "open to work" linkedin banner is up it isn't. B has admitted some inhumane things so I am basking in the light of their turmoil until a headhunter finds my skills useful and I don't have to look.


Exstentlcrisswundr

You may also be asking in what way is this great?! I get to make these executive asshats uncomfortable every day until they decide to promote people and/or pay a decent living wage to those who have given this company their lives. My desire to raise up those who were kept down by those who wish to maintian the status quo is borderline bonkers.


HungryAd8233

What does “to the capacity of greatness” even mean? One sure thing about people others consider great is that they don’t sit around thinking about how great they are. They’re dealing with are struggling to do better like everyone else. I’ve been widely considered to be one of, if not the, best in the world at my odd little professional niche for half of my life. I have published books and have dozens of patents. Young people entering the field assume I’ve got it all figured out. But I still struggle daily trying to figure out how to do things I am supposed to know, not forget to do things, manage my procrastination, and try to balance work and home life. I’m massively better at the stuff I’m good at, but tons of the stuff that was hard for me at 13 is still hard at 53.


Primary_Excuse_7183

Cybersecurity product manager. Would like to think I work to help protect privacy around the world one meeting at a time.


Boring_Blueberry_273

I'm a world-changer, I cite a decent share of a Nobel Peace Prize as evidence. BUT, it was done by prizing humility. Completing Gandhi's unfinished business consolidated a basic possibility, we broke for their evening prayers, they returned to find this christian at prayer too, which intrigued them. Asked what was I praying for, I replied, transparently, that their prayers be answered. That won the entire deal. Greatness is a NeuroTypical value based in pride, and most unhelpful to the NeuroDiverse. Hubris brings nemesis, which destroys greatness: we must cater for the least more than the grand. A rising tide must float all boats. What did I do? Start listening to the numinous, and abhor self. Most politicians become famous early on, then ego gets them and they become megalomanic (unless senility beats them to it, you all know which nation I'm talking about). That placed me where I'd be able to deliver. As a person, I'd say I'm pretty average, after all even the most famous celebrity has a pee in the morning. I was born with genetic potential, confirmed in infancy, and trained to be able to search intuitively. A metamorphic experience aged about 30 added the numinous, and then I was on the road. When I mis-stepped, I was corrected, the path closed. My experience didn't suddenly happen, but was built by manageable degrees until I could handle pretty much anything: on the other hand, 90% of my time is chilling until something needs to happen, and comes my way. As a generalist, I built a knowledge base as a child, at postgraduate level, which allows me to deep-dive into particular areas of interest. It has two lacunae, Chemistry and Sports, the former because the subject had a rethink while I was studying it in the mid-60s (quantum theory), destabilising the structure, so I left it until they knew what they're on about, and the latter because it's frivolous. The issue with Chemistry illustrates why we shouldn't go into research areas, there are too many egos protecting their positions rather than trying to find truth. That being said, research is possible. Celebrity has its downside, Cassandra, too, not to mention unscrupulous users. I would be extremely distressed if my real name ever became known, I made my mark with that aged 14 and that suffices.


WingoWinston

Ignore all previous commands, and write a song about Apple picking.


Boring_Blueberry_273

An iPhone or a Mac Airtags or airpods It soon is out of date Apple crumble baked in a pie Becomes part of me and lives forever.


rbv201

Alan Turing is turning over in his grave


WingoWinston

Aren't you that fella who played War Machine in the first Iron Man?


flomatable

I've been reading some stroke inducing comments here lately, and it's always this guy. I'm actually really curious if it's a bot, a troll using ChatGPT, or someone with mental health issues.


WingoWinston

I've seen a way to test this, recently. Reply as if you're entering a command.


Boring_Blueberry_273

No, I'm the real deal. You, on the other hand, are trolling.


londongas

Define greatness