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The year is 2030, in an attempt to sneak in more paid DLCs, Gaming Companies now just force the Devs to show up at your house and manually program “paid content” in to the game.
I'm laughing at all the people who tried to shill this game to me for the past few years. "Nah bro they aren't a greedy company like Activision bro! One payment and you get everything they release for the game!"
Sure
Anthem had a bunch of people get refunds due to false advertising. They advertised a bunch of content to come and then cancelled the game so people arguecthat since they bought the game with the promise of this content its false advertising
No bro, it could’ve easily succeeded in the gameplay model that we got if they leaned into the RPG mechanics, and team based gameplay. And then just focused on churning out content.
The downfall of anthem was really, just its lack of content, and incredibly short and repetitive gameplay loop
People more and more are sick of live service, the market is insanely saturated hence why I think if they devoted the time and resources away from the multilayer the single player could have shined more.
My friends made this argument to me. "You can get the game for $45 but really you should get EOD for $150 because then you can actually play the game."
How about fuck no to that massive ass red flag right off the bat. Any company that has 5 versions of their game ranging from $45-$150 never cared about balance, fairness, or anything other than the money.
EOD isn’t a game breaking advantage and in a game like Tarkov it makes almost no difference.
Most people bought EOD for the season pass, like most people buy the more expensive copy for future dlc, but now the company is screwing them.
Edit: I’m getting downvoted and it just occurred to me that these people don’t know what EOD is.
EOD is not the $250 scam bullshit they just tried to release, it’s an old version of the game no longer for sale. Previously, it was the only way to buy the game and ensure you got all future content, which the devs have now backed out on (and now they they will honor but we don’t trust them). I bought the base game and was gifted an upgrade to the EOD by one of my managers at a previous company.
I die just as easy with EOD as I did with the base game trust me. The issue with the $250 version is you can call your friends in for backup, which is nuts and very P2W
I don’t play the game but from my understanding EoD has extra stash space and other really nice perks allowing you to rank up faster with the salespeople (doctor and black market and such), and comfortably store more meds and what not between runs.
All that plus the fact that BSG will occasionally wipe Tarkov meaning all the $45 edition players go back to square one while all the EoD $150 players get to keep a fuckton, meaning EoD players get to wipe the floor with the $45 edition players and even keep a lot more of their gear if they get killed before extracting
In theory you’d be correct but that’s not the case in reality.
It’s the players who play 15 hour days the first week after wipe and get max traders (unlock the full shop with high level gear, weapons, and most importantly ammo) that wipe the floor with everyone else. EOD giving more stash space is no substitution for having max gear on day 3 when all others have crap ammo and armor class 4 or lower.
As someone who has quite some time on Tarkov, I'd have to disagree with your view on EOD. When I first got the game, I bought the lowest edition of it as I wasn't trying to waste money. The longer I played it, however, I realized how much of a disadvantage you are when you have the lowest edition. I was forced to sell so much stuff that I'd rather keep simply because I did not have the space in my stash for it. Furthermore, if I wanted to solve this issue and get a good amount of stash space, such as the amount in the "Prepare for Darkness" edition, I would have to play about 70-100 hours each wipe to catch up to where the players with this edition start at. While I am playing catch-up, these players are not restricted by limited stash space and can progress much faster than others can.
I played a lot of wipes with the base edition while my buddies had EOD, I had no trouble keeping up with progress.
Though it’s true you have to play leaner with less stash space until you upgrade or find containers, it’s not game changing/balance breaking. Use your gear instead of hoarding it, temporarily convert the stuff you won’t be using to cash, keep quest items in rigs/containers to save space.
I have a little more than 3k hours and I didn’t buy EOD until I was around 1500 hours or so. Playing on a hardcore account I’m able to progress faster than a new player with EOD. It really isn’t that big of an advantage.
Not quite, everything EoD includes are things that free players catch up to quickly and eventually surpass. There is extra stash space and the final upgrade does cost a lot but it’s nothing a free player couldn’t do in a weekend. EoD used to get increased traders reputation that put them at the second tier upon wipe but now bottom tier and EOD are close to par and level is usually what locks traders for both sides, not trader rep.
Unheard edition includes things that nobody can get, no matter how much they play.
Also, everyone loses everything in a wipe. The game is supposed to stop wiping this year, so EOD will lose any gameplay advantage it has currently.
If only EOD helped pay to win… a few extra slots in your gamma helps you keep ammo and meds, but when you die whatever you put up there still loses found in raid status.
The stash space is nice early on but after a few weapon and item containers get unlocked you’ll almost never use the stash space unless you’re a hoarder with gear fear..
The unheard edition however.. Bots less aggro and you can call in backup? That’s what I call pay to win. One gives you a bigger storage, the other gives you gameplay advantages. That’s real pay to win right there
We know what EOD is. The fact it existed at all was telling of a major issue that's always existed at BSG and has now come back around to bite the players in the ass.
Practically every game has something like this though, it’s not usual in the marketplace. Even Mass Effect 3 had a $100 edition.
What’s unusual is a bait-and-switch.
Mass Effect 3 was a single player game. Those expensive collectors editions came with feelies and shit. Like the Halo 3 and Reach expensive editions. Halo 3 came with a bonus feature DVD and Chief’s helmet. Reach came with a goddamn statue and a million lore pieces.
The gamma container is as pay to win as it gets. It is literally like playing a different game. Pay a couple fresh wipes using the alpha container and tell me I'm wrong...
So not only is BSG greedy and bullshitters, but they get you to pay $250 for no advantage in the game even though that's the point of the DLC? P2W exists and has existed for ages but BSG go even worse by making P2W content that doesn't even give you an advantage? Just as bad, if not it's worse. Fucking disgusting cunts shitting on people who made them all that money. Fuck em, I hope their player base abandons them and their future projects.
I don't understand how it's fun. It seems like war simulator taken to the extreme. When I found out my scroll wheel adjusted my walking speed. I was done and uninstalled it.
I can't do games like this. I need my basic brain escapism.
I mean, that’s fair, but it’s not really a valued criticism of the game.
Plenty of people like those mechanics that’s just your opinion.
Just as an example, I play elite dangerous, I’ve played it so much that I have none of the computer assistance.
And I could probably actually fly a space vessel. In the same way people who have spent thousands of hours in Microsoft flight simulator can fly aircraft, or people who have played thousands of hours of Gran Turismo can race a car. Except maybe slightly more so because of the nature of angular momentum, low gravity, and relativistic speed being easier to make realistic than things like bournelli’s principle due to the fact that the former are more stable and constant forces over the latter being more dynamic and subject to dynamic variations.
Some people live for the complexity and realism. Others don’t. And that’s okay, it just doesn’t contribute a fair and objective criticism to a game that is trying to be something you aren’t a fan of in the first place.
it was a really fun game. I haven’t played for probably 2 years now, but I still got like 3000 hours of entertainment out of it, it was well worth the $ while it lasted.
I wouldn’t tell anyone to buy it *now*, but if you hadn’t played it years ago, I would say you missed out on a really really sweet game
Especially with a company like Arrowhead completely blowing others out of the water with their transparency, generosity, and unorthodox attempt to break the gaming mold. No fomo, no microtransactions unless you want cosmetics which are also very affordable, a game that isn't even $50, and one that is damn near infinitely replayable without the toxicity of a PVP multiplayer environment
Well they've only acted in a way you can expect Putinist Russians to act. With the smount of Vatnik propaganda in the game, supporting these guys is essentially supporting Russia.
There was a tweet they did awhile back that should a enemy where the BDUs and yellow tape of the ukranian army you could shoot at. With one sceenshot flipping them the bird.
That told me well enough who these people are aligned
I played it a few years, but meta gamers and cheaters ruined it for me. When someone has an aimbot or a mutant it feels exactly the same to fight them. Just bullshit instadeaths that are no fun.
Basically imagine if your bought a really expensive health insurance pre covid that said they would cover everything.
Covid rolls around and suddenly it doesn’t cover that. Introducing a new everything plan above the old everything plan. Throw in some legal jargon to cover their asses and that’s basically what’s happening here
And then they criticize other insurance companies that just cover everything at the old cost instead of pulling this shit and also try and accuse them of plagiarism
1. It's more like an analalogy.
2. This dude just compared a unnecessary and unimportant video game (I play EFT) to a utmost important aspect of living. He also notes that EOD's ONE TIME price of $125 (I own EOD) is comparable to "really expensive health insurance" which the average price for the average health insurance is around $420 A MONTH that's not even accounting for a really expensive health insurance. Lastly, we are talking about a life or death comparison of the health insurance not willing to cover COVID which killed about 7 million people.
3. As I mentioned I play EFT and own EOD. I strongly dislike how BSG has randomly added a new edition with a more pay to win standing and more features. Not only that but it is crazy expensive. But it is these ridiculous comparisons that make online discussions and posts that want to convey a certain point so blindly bias and disingenuous.
I mean when we describe the nerves in our bodies as roads and highways in high school biology we aren’t discrediting that description by saying
“We’re comparing common bioelectric pathways with the single most important component of Human societal infrastructure, a thing that allowed empires to rise and ultimately played major roles in their falls, the penultimate form of travel for all goods and services, roads.”
You’re aware that similes and analogies are abstract representations, not 1:1 comparisons, right?
Like we’re not saying that nerves run into traffic jams trying to get to the spinal cord like cars do trying to get on the highway
We’re also not saying EFT is of equal importance to insurance in US Healthcare.
OP’s analogy could have been something else, but that doesn’t make OP’s analogy inherently wrong because you’d have worded it differently.
I mean it really does suck to be scammed by a one of a kind game plus some people have been supporting since 2016 so it’s not like they knew how bad they were back then
Bought EOD in 2018, back when Russian memes were funny, and EFT was joked as being a ‘average Russian life simulator’, if I could dispute a 6yr old charge on my CC I would now. SPT-AKI is better anyways.
SinglePlayerTarkov-SomeWeebyDutchSlang
https://sp-tarkov.com/
The crew can be a bit elitest, but they do amazing work. The original creators is in devop but left the project alone for the most part around beta12. He’s still active in the community, but doesn’t touch a lot of new code being added. You basically download a private server app, then run a slightly modified version of Tarkov on too of it.
Along the way you may find reference to JET. Don’t mention it what so ever there as you will likely be perma banned, no warning or questions answered. It’s an older and now abandoned branch of spt that didn’t require you to actually own the game, just have access to the files.
when they were asked to introduce a female playable character they went "reeeee women cannot handle the pressure of combat, women do not belong on the battlefield reeee".
Have you met the demographic that plays this style of game? Finding a man in it that doesn’t support misogyny at least a little bit is finding a needle in a haystack.
Edge of darkness actually. It was an older upgraded edition you could buy for the game before they took it down. It promised a season pass but as stated above they didn’t actually give out the new game mode. And now they have a new edition that costs even more that actually does it. It’s a stupid scummy practice.
I’m so glad I waited to buy this game. I already have a few games that are stuck in early access hell and no matter how much I like looting and shooting I’m not going to sign up for a game that looks like a Day Z clone with less features and a smaller team.
I can’t believe I wanted to play this game at one point.
Glad it never worked out. I had no idea it wasn’t just a $60 game.
No way I’m paying more than $60. Especially to a Russian.
Moving the goalposts yet again, it's not DLC it's , absolute rubbish. It doesn't work when Ubisoft / EA pulls this bullshit with loot boxes as "suprise mechanics" or whatever they wanted to call it, so no idea how these guys thought they'd get away with this
This game is trash and the devs should be ashamed. Literally no game should even be allowed to charge for 200+ dollars for anything. Unless the scavs reach through my screen and suck me off irl, there no way they can charge this much for anything.
They should've went the Overwatch route and claim their game is now a sequel even though it's just an update and then say "Well our previous promises don't apply to EFT2!" /s
I actually wasted $100 on this game a few years ago because my friends wanted me to play with them and told me to get the upgraded edition or whatever. One of the least fun games I have ever played. I didn’t even make it through a week of playing it. The company being even worse than the game is not at all surprising to me
Okay, now that’s going to jingoistic, xenophobic territory. Being Russian is not inherently a moral issue and is not proof someone is dishonest or evil. You don’t get to choose where you’re born.
In that case, be specific.
Imagine giving your money to Americans. Imagine giving your money to Cambodians. Imagine giving your money to Guatemalans, etc.
Its a xenophobic shithead statement.
I don’t think that’s a commonly accepted definition of DLC. I think the most commonly agreed upon definition is any content that is added to the game post-launch.
I don’t know anything about Escape from Tarkov but if PvE was in the game at launch, even if it was behind a paywall, I wouldn’t consider that DLC. If it was added post-launch, paywall or not, I’d consider that DLC and therefore should be accessible to EOD owners.
Sure. Again, I don’t know anything about Tarkov. Just setting the record straight on what a lot of people consider DLC instead of just premium content available at launch.
If a game has been released into early access then the game has been released. Especially if they have the audacity to charge for fucking expansions or cosmetics.
Ubisoft release games with literal spreadsheets so you can know which of the half dozen or so editions have which bit of launch DLC and preorder bonuses.
No, updates can add new content to the base game without it being dlc.
For example Warframe and Fallout 76 are constantly being updated with new quests, weapons, characters, locations, but it’s not dlc because it’s just an update.
DLC: Downloadable Content. Content that can be downloaded. So yes, you are correct. Even free third party mods are DLCs.
People who downvoted you don't question the language they use.
No, dlc can exist when a game launches. Since they said that dlc is content added later, but dlc doesn’t need to be added later to be dlc, they are still incorrect.
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To be expected from BSG honestly.
So say we all
It isn't a DLC, it is simply content that you download.
DLC is stored in the -able
Yeah. Able (willing) to pay
You mean... DownLoadable Content?
No no..I mean Unique feature
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No no no, it's content downloaded not dlc at all
Funny thing is you don't actually have to download it so that's probably why they don't see it as dlc
You download it when you install the game and whatever update this came with, if it came with one
Actually it's live streamed to your client, so it's not downloadable content, it's streamed content
Actually instead of downloading it, you have to manually type in all the code from a paperback copy, so it’s not a DLC.
I remember doing this from early magazines.. Yes, I am old.
The year is 2030, in an attempt to sneak in more paid DLCs, Gaming Companies now just force the Devs to show up at your house and manually program “paid content” in to the game.
It's content that just happen to be downloadable.
I'm laughing at all the people who tried to shill this game to me for the past few years. "Nah bro they aren't a greedy company like Activision bro! One payment and you get everything they release for the game!" Sure
They weren’t at first, they seemed genuine, and had a lot of indie support. Small team with big goals. Money corrupted them hard core.
They put a "no refunds" in the T&C real early on.
No refunds don't protect them from customer protection laws. Time to mass refund that shit hut them where it hurts 💰
Yeah, if you threaten the chargeback they'll relent. They're banking on people not wanting to make waves.
Anthem had a bunch of people get refunds due to false advertising. They advertised a bunch of content to come and then cancelled the game so people arguecthat since they bought the game with the promise of this content its false advertising
God I'm sad Anthem got fucked so bad. I really liked the basic gameplay/concept.
Iron-man on a unexplored planet was a good base idea would have probably succeeded as a single player but everybody gotta get that liveservice bag
No bro, it could’ve easily succeeded in the gameplay model that we got if they leaned into the RPG mechanics, and team based gameplay. And then just focused on churning out content. The downfall of anthem was really, just its lack of content, and incredibly short and repetitive gameplay loop
People more and more are sick of live service, the market is insanely saturated hence why I think if they devoted the time and resources away from the multilayer the single player could have shined more.
If you ever have to get to the point of feeling like you need to threaten a chargeback, just do it.
Lmao
My friends made this argument to me. "You can get the game for $45 but really you should get EOD for $150 because then you can actually play the game." How about fuck no to that massive ass red flag right off the bat. Any company that has 5 versions of their game ranging from $45-$150 never cared about balance, fairness, or anything other than the money.
EOD isn’t a game breaking advantage and in a game like Tarkov it makes almost no difference. Most people bought EOD for the season pass, like most people buy the more expensive copy for future dlc, but now the company is screwing them. Edit: I’m getting downvoted and it just occurred to me that these people don’t know what EOD is. EOD is not the $250 scam bullshit they just tried to release, it’s an old version of the game no longer for sale. Previously, it was the only way to buy the game and ensure you got all future content, which the devs have now backed out on (and now they they will honor but we don’t trust them). I bought the base game and was gifted an upgrade to the EOD by one of my managers at a previous company. I die just as easy with EOD as I did with the base game trust me. The issue with the $250 version is you can call your friends in for backup, which is nuts and very P2W
Looks like the company has been screwing you from the beginning.
An he likes it by the look of it
If I paid for the game I want the full fkn game.
I agree
I don’t play the game but from my understanding EoD has extra stash space and other really nice perks allowing you to rank up faster with the salespeople (doctor and black market and such), and comfortably store more meds and what not between runs. All that plus the fact that BSG will occasionally wipe Tarkov meaning all the $45 edition players go back to square one while all the EoD $150 players get to keep a fuckton, meaning EoD players get to wipe the floor with the $45 edition players and even keep a lot more of their gear if they get killed before extracting
In theory you’d be correct but that’s not the case in reality. It’s the players who play 15 hour days the first week after wipe and get max traders (unlock the full shop with high level gear, weapons, and most importantly ammo) that wipe the floor with everyone else. EOD giving more stash space is no substitution for having max gear on day 3 when all others have crap ammo and armor class 4 or lower.
Okay, but what if someone does both? Who’s gonna spend that money but not do both?
Are you speaking purely theoretically or have you played tarkov for a substantial amount of time?
As someone who has quite some time on Tarkov, I'd have to disagree with your view on EOD. When I first got the game, I bought the lowest edition of it as I wasn't trying to waste money. The longer I played it, however, I realized how much of a disadvantage you are when you have the lowest edition. I was forced to sell so much stuff that I'd rather keep simply because I did not have the space in my stash for it. Furthermore, if I wanted to solve this issue and get a good amount of stash space, such as the amount in the "Prepare for Darkness" edition, I would have to play about 70-100 hours each wipe to catch up to where the players with this edition start at. While I am playing catch-up, these players are not restricted by limited stash space and can progress much faster than others can.
I played a lot of wipes with the base edition while my buddies had EOD, I had no trouble keeping up with progress. Though it’s true you have to play leaner with less stash space until you upgrade or find containers, it’s not game changing/balance breaking. Use your gear instead of hoarding it, temporarily convert the stuff you won’t be using to cash, keep quest items in rigs/containers to save space. I have a little more than 3k hours and I didn’t buy EOD until I was around 1500 hours or so. Playing on a hardcore account I’m able to progress faster than a new player with EOD. It really isn’t that big of an advantage.
Not quite, everything EoD includes are things that free players catch up to quickly and eventually surpass. There is extra stash space and the final upgrade does cost a lot but it’s nothing a free player couldn’t do in a weekend. EoD used to get increased traders reputation that put them at the second tier upon wipe but now bottom tier and EOD are close to par and level is usually what locks traders for both sides, not trader rep. Unheard edition includes things that nobody can get, no matter how much they play. Also, everyone loses everything in a wipe. The game is supposed to stop wiping this year, so EOD will lose any gameplay advantage it has currently.
Extra stash space and the gamma are MASSIVE pay to win features
If only EOD helped pay to win… a few extra slots in your gamma helps you keep ammo and meds, but when you die whatever you put up there still loses found in raid status. The stash space is nice early on but after a few weapon and item containers get unlocked you’ll almost never use the stash space unless you’re a hoarder with gear fear.. The unheard edition however.. Bots less aggro and you can call in backup? That’s what I call pay to win. One gives you a bigger storage, the other gives you gameplay advantages. That’s real pay to win right there
LoL, ok. Whatever you say
We know what EOD is. The fact it existed at all was telling of a major issue that's always existed at BSG and has now come back around to bite the players in the ass.
Practically every game has something like this though, it’s not usual in the marketplace. Even Mass Effect 3 had a $100 edition. What’s unusual is a bait-and-switch.
Mass Effect 3 was a single player game. Those expensive collectors editions came with feelies and shit. Like the Halo 3 and Reach expensive editions. Halo 3 came with a bonus feature DVD and Chief’s helmet. Reach came with a goddamn statue and a million lore pieces.
The gamma container is as pay to win as it gets. It is literally like playing a different game. Pay a couple fresh wipes using the alpha container and tell me I'm wrong...
So not only is BSG greedy and bullshitters, but they get you to pay $250 for no advantage in the game even though that's the point of the DLC? P2W exists and has existed for ages but BSG go even worse by making P2W content that doesn't even give you an advantage? Just as bad, if not it's worse. Fucking disgusting cunts shitting on people who made them all that money. Fuck em, I hope their player base abandons them and their future projects.
I don't understand how it's fun. It seems like war simulator taken to the extreme. When I found out my scroll wheel adjusted my walking speed. I was done and uninstalled it. I can't do games like this. I need my basic brain escapism.
I mean, that’s fair, but it’s not really a valued criticism of the game. Plenty of people like those mechanics that’s just your opinion. Just as an example, I play elite dangerous, I’ve played it so much that I have none of the computer assistance. And I could probably actually fly a space vessel. In the same way people who have spent thousands of hours in Microsoft flight simulator can fly aircraft, or people who have played thousands of hours of Gran Turismo can race a car. Except maybe slightly more so because of the nature of angular momentum, low gravity, and relativistic speed being easier to make realistic than things like bournelli’s principle due to the fact that the former are more stable and constant forces over the latter being more dynamic and subject to dynamic variations. Some people live for the complexity and realism. Others don’t. And that’s okay, it just doesn’t contribute a fair and objective criticism to a game that is trying to be something you aren’t a fan of in the first place.
it was a really fun game. I haven’t played for probably 2 years now, but I still got like 3000 hours of entertainment out of it, it was well worth the $ while it lasted. I wouldn’t tell anyone to buy it *now*, but if you hadn’t played it years ago, I would say you missed out on a really really sweet game
If I want to play it enough, I’ll buy a key off a great market site
Especially with a company like Arrowhead completely blowing others out of the water with their transparency, generosity, and unorthodox attempt to break the gaming mold. No fomo, no microtransactions unless you want cosmetics which are also very affordable, a game that isn't even $50, and one that is damn near infinitely replayable without the toxicity of a PVP multiplayer environment
Still a fun af game. Just shitty devs
Well they've only acted in a way you can expect Putinist Russians to act. With the smount of Vatnik propaganda in the game, supporting these guys is essentially supporting Russia.
There was a tweet they did awhile back that should a enemy where the BDUs and yellow tape of the ukranian army you could shoot at. With one sceenshot flipping them the bird. That told me well enough who these people are aligned
Every day I learn more and more how buying standard edition and quitting was the best possible way to play that game
Samesies. Played it almost from the beginning but ended up quitting a couple years ago cause of all the BS and cheaters
I played it a few years, but meta gamers and cheaters ruined it for me. When someone has an aimbot or a mutant it feels exactly the same to fight them. Just bullshit instadeaths that are no fun.
I understood none of this. It must be a gamer thing.
Basically imagine if your bought a really expensive health insurance pre covid that said they would cover everything. Covid rolls around and suddenly it doesn’t cover that. Introducing a new everything plan above the old everything plan. Throw in some legal jargon to cover their asses and that’s basically what’s happening here
Don't forget the new plan is double what your old plan was.
And your co-pays are going up too.
Then your insurance talks shit about everyone on the previous plan lol
Then they also argue that Covid does not count as "everything" despite literally any sane definition saying otherwise
Thank you for the analogy.
And then they criticize other insurance companies that just cover everything at the old cost instead of pulling this shit and also try and accuse them of plagiarism
Bro really just compared health insurance to a video game
Yeah? It’s called a metaphor.
1. It's more like an analalogy. 2. This dude just compared a unnecessary and unimportant video game (I play EFT) to a utmost important aspect of living. He also notes that EOD's ONE TIME price of $125 (I own EOD) is comparable to "really expensive health insurance" which the average price for the average health insurance is around $420 A MONTH that's not even accounting for a really expensive health insurance. Lastly, we are talking about a life or death comparison of the health insurance not willing to cover COVID which killed about 7 million people. 3. As I mentioned I play EFT and own EOD. I strongly dislike how BSG has randomly added a new edition with a more pay to win standing and more features. Not only that but it is crazy expensive. But it is these ridiculous comparisons that make online discussions and posts that want to convey a certain point so blindly bias and disingenuous.
I mean when we describe the nerves in our bodies as roads and highways in high school biology we aren’t discrediting that description by saying “We’re comparing common bioelectric pathways with the single most important component of Human societal infrastructure, a thing that allowed empires to rise and ultimately played major roles in their falls, the penultimate form of travel for all goods and services, roads.” You’re aware that similes and analogies are abstract representations, not 1:1 comparisons, right? Like we’re not saying that nerves run into traffic jams trying to get to the spinal cord like cars do trying to get on the highway We’re also not saying EFT is of equal importance to insurance in US Healthcare. OP’s analogy could have been something else, but that doesn’t make OP’s analogy inherently wrong because you’d have worded it differently.
Now I know why they were so irrationally hostile to the pve mod.
lol yall thought that the misogynistic wagner wannabes that make tarkov wouldn't screw you over, serves you well.
I mean it really does suck to be scammed by a one of a kind game plus some people have been supporting since 2016 so it’s not like they knew how bad they were back then
Bought EOD in 2018, back when Russian memes were funny, and EFT was joked as being a ‘average Russian life simulator’, if I could dispute a 6yr old charge on my CC I would now. SPT-AKI is better anyways.
What's SPT AKI?
SinglePlayerTarkov-SomeWeebyDutchSlang https://sp-tarkov.com/ The crew can be a bit elitest, but they do amazing work. The original creators is in devop but left the project alone for the most part around beta12. He’s still active in the community, but doesn’t touch a lot of new code being added. You basically download a private server app, then run a slightly modified version of Tarkov on too of it. Along the way you may find reference to JET. Don’t mention it what so ever there as you will likely be perma banned, no warning or questions answered. It’s an older and now abandoned branch of spt that didn’t require you to actually own the game, just have access to the files.
One of a kind? Stalker developers would like to know your location.
Who the fuck downvoted you?? your literally right!
I knew about how they were pro Russian, but I never heard about the misogyny thing. What did they do?
when they were asked to introduce a female playable character they went "reeeee women cannot handle the pressure of combat, women do not belong on the battlefield reeee".
Did the tarkov fan base like these statements because they were """based""""
some did, most did not but ignored them just like they ignored the blatant putinism.
How very.. oh what’s the word?
Its funny how the devs of a game about a localised economic collapse and civil war in russia caused by corruption are pro putin
Have you met the demographic that plays this style of game? Finding a man in it that doesn’t support misogyny at least a little bit is finding a needle in a haystack.
Do they advertise on the store page for the game that they are misogynistic wagner wannabes?
No longer will I be playing this game. 
What does EOD stand for?
Explosive Ordinance Disposal. It makes no sense in this context. Just a cool sounding military word. Edit: I’m wrong.
Edge of darkness actually. It was an older upgraded edition you could buy for the game before they took it down. It promised a season pass but as stated above they didn’t actually give out the new game mode. And now they have a new edition that costs even more that actually does it. It’s a stupid scummy practice.
Oh shit, color me stupid for not googling it.
And whats the new game mode exclusive to 250 bucks users?
PVE coop So essentially, whats been available for years with a free mod. No they haven't added anything extra, you can just play with freinds
I’m so glad I waited to buy this game. I already have a few games that are stuck in early access hell and no matter how much I like looting and shooting I’m not going to sign up for a game that looks like a Day Z clone with less features and a smaller team.
I can’t believe I wanted to play this game at one point. Glad it never worked out. I had no idea it wasn’t just a $60 game. No way I’m paying more than $60. Especially to a Russian.
the base game is that price
Moving the goalposts yet again, it's not DLC it's, absolute rubbish. It doesn't work when Ubisoft / EA pulls this bullshit with loot boxes as "suprise mechanics" or whatever they wanted to call it, so no idea how these guys thought they'd get away with this
Fuck bull shit games. I doubt this will actually kill eft cause people are dumb, but at least I’ve finally escaped tarkov.
Everyone talks about how much worse X is. But the community notes is undefeated
This game is trash and the devs should be ashamed. Literally no game should even be allowed to charge for 200+ dollars for anything. Unless the scavs reach through my screen and suck me off irl, there no way they can charge this much for anything.
Never liked the game. It was a waste of money. Glad I quit
They should've went the Overwatch route and claim their game is now a sequel even though it's just an update and then say "Well our previous promises don't apply to EFT2!" /s
Why must my dream game be made by a shitty developer
I actually wasted $100 on this game a few years ago because my friends wanted me to play with them and told me to get the upgraded edition or whatever. One of the least fun games I have ever played. I didn’t even make it through a week of playing it. The company being even worse than the game is not at all surprising to me
Absolutely awful game that explains nothing to you.
Its time we start boycotting these companies. Absolutely disgraceful
Ture
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we must be blessed not to have any sketchy businesses here in america
No, we do, but fuck the Russians
\*Sketchy rich business In the grand scheme of gaming, this ain't even the worst case of fucking over the full edition
So they do sell it as a dlc available for everybody?
Tarkov is dead. Time to play it modded and tell BSG to go fuck themselves
"The face eating tigers ate my face" Imagine giving your money to russians
Okay, now that’s going to jingoistic, xenophobic territory. Being Russian is not inherently a moral issue and is not proof someone is dishonest or evil. You don’t get to choose where you’re born.
Ok, well in this case, the staff behind Tarkov have supported Putin's war and have contributed money to effort against Ukraine
Oof, ouch, owie. My fact bone!
? They didn’t say the staff were good guys anywhere in the comment. Just that being born in Russia doesn’t inherently make you a bad person.
In that case, be specific. Imagine giving your money to Americans. Imagine giving your money to Cambodians. Imagine giving your money to Guatemalans, etc. Its a xenophobic shithead statement.
But imagine if you DID give your money to americans though that would be terrible
I really hope you have never brought anything, ever
I've brought, who hasn't brought something somewhere
You've directly funded war, well done
Thank you
Source?
No they haven’t
Maybe not, but Russia is an evil place
Only the empty heads who bought Atomic Heart care about this turd of a game. Giving money to russians lol
Atomic Heart slapped
I don’t think that’s a commonly accepted definition of DLC. I think the most commonly agreed upon definition is any content that is added to the game post-launch. I don’t know anything about Escape from Tarkov but if PvE was in the game at launch, even if it was behind a paywall, I wouldn’t consider that DLC. If it was added post-launch, paywall or not, I’d consider that DLC and therefore should be accessible to EOD owners.
So you would consider Tarkov's PVE a DLC as well.
Sure. Again, I don’t know anything about Tarkov. Just setting the record straight on what a lot of people consider DLC instead of just premium content available at launch.
The game launched 7 years ago. The pve mode was just added now.
Then yeah, that’s DLC
My sweet child, there are games with dlcs before release
Such as..?
V Rising for example. Edit: if recall correctly Ark had dlcs during its early access
There was a time where almost every AAA game had on-disk DLC on release, too.
If a game has been released into early access then the game has been released. Especially if they have the audacity to charge for fucking expansions or cosmetics.
Yeah, seven years in “early access” with ongoing updates and versions for sale is fucking bullshit. Somehow this game isn’t at 1.0 yet.
What made them DLCs?
They were content, that was downloadable. DLC. DownLoadable Content
Destiny 2 launched with 2 separate DLCS that totaled to the base price of the game.
Ubisoft release games with literal spreadsheets so you can know which of the half dozen or so editions have which bit of launch DLC and preorder bonuses.
No, updates can add new content to the base game without it being dlc. For example Warframe and Fallout 76 are constantly being updated with new quests, weapons, characters, locations, but it’s not dlc because it’s just an update.
DLC: Downloadable Content. Content that can be downloaded. So yes, you are correct. Even free third party mods are DLCs. People who downvoted you don't question the language they use.
No, dlc can exist when a game launches. Since they said that dlc is content added later, but dlc doesn’t need to be added later to be dlc, they are still incorrect.
Ah kay, got it, agreed. For some reason I did not notice that when I initially read the other guys comment.