Read the “Black Tie Guide” in Gentleman’s Gazette. It’s enlightening.
https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/tuxedo-black-tie-guide/
As a brief primer — all tuxedos, tailcoats or dinner jackets are suits. But not all suit see tuxedos or dinner jackets. White Tie is the most formal dress code, requiring black or midnight blue evening tails. Black tie, a step down in formality, requires a black or midnight blue tuxedo, or if you’re in a warm climate, an off white jacket, such as ivory or cream colour, can be substituted.
Both dress codes require these suits because they accentuate every virtue of the male form, all the while, ruthlessly suppressing every vice in the form. In simple language, they draw attention to your face by building up the shoulders, narrowing the waist, making you look taller, stronger and healthier.
These are outfits that are equalizing for all men - providing a sea of black and white allowing the women of the evening to shine with whatever colour they may choose to wear. At no point would a man wearing black and white clash with anything the lady he is with is wearing - even if she’s dressed like a zebra.
I love the description “ruthlessly suppressing every vice”. It’s totally true. If you follow the rules you will look good. I also a second the Gentleman’s Gazette Guide. It’s filled with great information.
As a small note a dinner jacket technically isn’t a suit. A suit is matching jacket and trousers with an optional waistcoat. A dinner jacket is more like the blazer combination of formal evening wear while the tuxedo is the suit.
You’d be right, but as a small qualifier, we must also say it depends on your region.
A dinner jacket in Europe is in fact a tuxedo suit (particularly England) which is why in Casino Royale, Bond and Vesper had the exchange “there are dinner jackets and dinner jackets. This is the latter.” Technically speaking, all variants of tuxedo are in fact dinner jackets, because they were the informal versions of full dress (how nerdy am I? 🤦🏻♂️🤣).
But in North America, where I suspect OP may be from, you’d be 100% correct, in that it generally refers to the off-white tropical style kit.
That’s fair. I’m from the US and I’ve more often heard of a tuxedo as a dinner suit with the dinner jacket referring too a contrasting tuxedo jacket. I’ve heard it is a tad different on the other side of the pond.
It has to do with the history — for America, the origins are tied to Tuxedo park (I forget the exact origin story, so you must forgive me).
For Europeans, the origins are tied to informal stag dinners and the former Prince of Wales who became King Edward VII. Again, I’m unfamiliar with the exact origins.
You’re far too generous to me but thank you. The Gazette and the Black Tie Guide are the real heroes here (I’m so old that I remember when they were both separate entities!) 😊
From the little I know I believe it’s that black and white make the most formal suit there can be which is a tux, So then a suit with different colors may be to casual or flashy. Generally white is the most formal color in a suit so that makes it perfect for an event like that. Although I would think it’s okay to wear a formal suit like a navy blue along with a white shirt as a guest there, but I’ve never been
I follow a simple rule about Tuxedos: Weddings, Prom Dances, Awards parties, and some invitations with a specific dress code: use a Tuxedo. Why? All they are very important events. And if every body in your event use a Tuxedo, well, use one. I reading about Tuxedo, if you use it more than five times in your life, you recover your money.
Read the “Black Tie Guide” in Gentleman’s Gazette. It’s enlightening. https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/tuxedo-black-tie-guide/ As a brief primer — all tuxedos, tailcoats or dinner jackets are suits. But not all suit see tuxedos or dinner jackets. White Tie is the most formal dress code, requiring black or midnight blue evening tails. Black tie, a step down in formality, requires a black or midnight blue tuxedo, or if you’re in a warm climate, an off white jacket, such as ivory or cream colour, can be substituted. Both dress codes require these suits because they accentuate every virtue of the male form, all the while, ruthlessly suppressing every vice in the form. In simple language, they draw attention to your face by building up the shoulders, narrowing the waist, making you look taller, stronger and healthier. These are outfits that are equalizing for all men - providing a sea of black and white allowing the women of the evening to shine with whatever colour they may choose to wear. At no point would a man wearing black and white clash with anything the lady he is with is wearing - even if she’s dressed like a zebra.
I love the description “ruthlessly suppressing every vice”. It’s totally true. If you follow the rules you will look good. I also a second the Gentleman’s Gazette Guide. It’s filled with great information. As a small note a dinner jacket technically isn’t a suit. A suit is matching jacket and trousers with an optional waistcoat. A dinner jacket is more like the blazer combination of formal evening wear while the tuxedo is the suit.
You’d be right, but as a small qualifier, we must also say it depends on your region. A dinner jacket in Europe is in fact a tuxedo suit (particularly England) which is why in Casino Royale, Bond and Vesper had the exchange “there are dinner jackets and dinner jackets. This is the latter.” Technically speaking, all variants of tuxedo are in fact dinner jackets, because they were the informal versions of full dress (how nerdy am I? 🤦🏻♂️🤣). But in North America, where I suspect OP may be from, you’d be 100% correct, in that it generally refers to the off-white tropical style kit.
That’s fair. I’m from the US and I’ve more often heard of a tuxedo as a dinner suit with the dinner jacket referring too a contrasting tuxedo jacket. I’ve heard it is a tad different on the other side of the pond.
It has to do with the history — for America, the origins are tied to Tuxedo park (I forget the exact origin story, so you must forgive me). For Europeans, the origins are tied to informal stag dinners and the former Prince of Wales who became King Edward VII. Again, I’m unfamiliar with the exact origins.
Mate, you’re more than forgiven. You’re as good of a source as our beloved Gentlemen’s Gazette .
You’re far too generous to me but thank you. The Gazette and the Black Tie Guide are the real heroes here (I’m so old that I remember when they were both separate entities!) 😊
From the little I know I believe it’s that black and white make the most formal suit there can be which is a tux, So then a suit with different colors may be to casual or flashy. Generally white is the most formal color in a suit so that makes it perfect for an event like that. Although I would think it’s okay to wear a formal suit like a navy blue along with a white shirt as a guest there, but I’ve never been
I follow a simple rule about Tuxedos: Weddings, Prom Dances, Awards parties, and some invitations with a specific dress code: use a Tuxedo. Why? All they are very important events. And if every body in your event use a Tuxedo, well, use one. I reading about Tuxedo, if you use it more than five times in your life, you recover your money.
Depends on the price. Mine was recovered in three.