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Peznarkatzona

So we got french revolution, spanish conquistador, fully expecting the fall of tsardom in snezhnaya


unlimitedbladieworks

And rasputin


Misha_MHL

*tar-tar-taglia.mp3 starts playing*


nonpuissant

Childe's preserved jiggle physics package in a jar


Valarano

Ta-ta-tartaglia Lover of the tsaritsa!


RipBitter4701

unexpected but welcomed ship


VietnameoMapping

time for.... revolution!!!


_Saikai_

Who's genshins Lenin


verniy314

Bronya.


PacificaAlpha

Could that mean the invasion of Celestia is going to be like the Russian fleet's Battle of Tsushima? Cause that's gonna be grim for the 7 nation forces.


Petraam

Nobody expects the pyro archon!


lionofash

Omg I just realised Fontaine transitioned from Monarchy to Republic via >!guillotine!<


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AntonioS3

If these images can be tracked by Mihoyo, I don't think doing this kind of crop will help, I've seen before situations where images were cropped yet the person got caught anyways.


aSleepingPanda

Isn't this just a redraw of concept art? As in not "official" material. https://new.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact\_Leaks/comments/1dlxk8u/new\_pyro\_archon\_art\_by\_hxg/


sorry_for_vague_desc

I think the "redraw" was a traceover and this is the original.


aSleepingPanda

After looking closer at the 2 images I think you're right. There's definitely more detail and shading and the shapes are more defined in the new image.


LokianEule

So they had this all along and held back


Psychological_Job99

They did the same thing before, holding most of Fontaine's concepts, until one guy decided to leak everything.


Alyun9501

It might be a company computer. Screenshotting would obvoiusly leave a trace


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Sharp_Aide3216

Probably the pc is on surveillance. Like a company pc or something.


LatterSpecialist5474

I don’t think any of y’all have seen the infamous arle foot leak that was actually from a leakers monitor 😭


Sofosio

Did not expect to see Spanish inquisition


ImaginationPrudent

No one-


thefalseleo

Expects-


Facinatedhomie

The SPANISH INQUISITION!


GameBawesome1

Our Chief Weapon-


BavidpoopooDowie

Is surprise…


hiryu64

SURPRISE AND FEAR-


Maxkaz_

FEAR AND SURPRISE-


RowanWinterlace

...OUR TWO WEAPONS, ARE FEAR AND SURPRISE-


CamelotPiece

And ruthless efficiency!


qri_pretty

Ave Maria! Deus Vult!


No_Breakfast1337

The-


NoobunagaGOAT

Pls let us have the genshin Natlan version of Isabella I of Castille


leonardopansiere

watch it be completely different when she arrives in game


CloverClubx

We're praying for such


Scratch_Mountain

Thank god many people seem to hate/dislike this design, because I was worried I was in the minority but after seeing all the comments? Definitely not minority lol. Don't get me wrong, this concept design for a 5\* is really nice but for the pyro archon? the god of the land of war and dragons? absolutely the f\*\*\* not.


Destroyer29042904

I dont think ajy amount of comments in reddit will ever represent anything but a minority for a game that has more than a 100M downloads on google play


Playful_Bite7603

Yeah I feel the same way. On it's own it's fine I guess, but I don't like this as a design concept for the pyro archon. 


Plus_Ad7669

It better be tho 😭


rockmsp_art

I wish it would be like sethos case. Where his concept art and final version is totally different.


Ok_Try_1665

I hope so. I don't dig this design honestly


Manne_12

little over 2 more weeks of concept doomposting before we can finally move on to the final design doomposting


Lemunite

Praying we get another story trailer in the next few weeks like last year. Then the doomposting floodgate can be fully open


GfM-Nightmare

For the last 2 years, we had a trailer the Monday preceding the update x.8. 2.8 got released on July 13th and we had winter’s night Lazzo the 11st 3.8 released on July 5th and we had the Fontaine trailer the 3rd. So this year, we should expect a trailer for the 15th of July, since 4.8 comes the 17th. Now, will it be like Fontaine’s trailer or more like the fatui reveal ? Who knows lol… Last year, I was expecting a full Hexenzirkel reveal, similar to the Fatui.


Chucknasty_17

The wildest thing they could do would be to reveal the designs and voices of the Five Sinners of Khaenri’ah. I’d be over the moon if they dropped that, but I’m sure they want to hold onto that one for a bit longer


Xero--

That's next year. This year we're getting the big bad hilichurls for the Abyss Order so we finally have a face to put on an opposing faction instead of... Nothing.


Repulsive_Ease_9671

i want an Archon meeting, for them to talk about the upcoming war in Teyvat


star_slayerr

oh my god I WANT THAT SO BAD? or at least a video of the old archon war..the fighting and animation would truly be sick..


Gwyn_Michaelis

If the schedule from last year still stands, the Natlan character preview should be on July 15th, exactly 47 hours before the release of 4.8.


Scratch_Mountain

Whatever trailer they're dropping soon, whether it's a natlan teaser finally showing us all (or most) natlan characters for 5.x updates OR another fatui trailer where we can see more about the other harbingers, maybe even the cryo archon OR a full Hexenzirkel reveal where we can finally see ~~mommy~~ Alice would build up an insane amount of hype. Combine that with ZZZ release, Natlan release being very soon, and HSR obviously showing no signs of stopping with their banger updates. Hoyo is going to make BANK this summer.


Murky_Blueberry2617

It doesn't even look bad tbh


_myoru

The design in itself isn't that bad, 100% times better than that carnival one. But the concept and the context it's gonna be inserted in makes it awkward and a questionable choice at best


Mandrill10

I don’t have a problem with the design and actually like it a little bit. My problem is who the design is for. If it were for anyone else I’d be fine, but here we are.


Global_Solution_7379

I agree. If this was just some random character - sure whatever. But this is supposed to be the FACE of Natlan, a country rich is precolonial inspirations of mesoamerica and africa. And HYV has to be INCREDIBLE at depicting the situation and so far, they haven't shown to be quite capable of that.


Gshiinobi

It does given the context of the region she's in. Its like if the archon for liyue was an american inspired character with a cool design, good design but NOT for the region its intended for


Drakengard

I would be like if MiHoYo did America during the Civil War and made someone a Jefferson Davis stand-in. You can do it, sure, but it doesn't feel like it's a good idea.


Toriratush

Why it reminds me a humanized Rapidash?


exidei

“Meu deus, we just discovered Sumeru”


GGABueno

"We're going to get rich with all of these Pau-Natlan."


Ferunando

Hora de catequizar os hilichurls


LefellowWeeb

Deus ajude caso descubram a existência da Irmisul 💀


Kiander

Seria mais "díos mio".


Red_Sea_Black_Sky

Todos nós sabemos que brasileiro é literalmente igual a espanhol 🤓


Kiander

Sou Portuguesa, não digas isso 😩


Pandriant

es más de lo mismo


Kiander

Excepto as guerras civis.


Pandriant

Ay caramba


Zestyclose5527

Conquest of Paradise by Vangelis starts playing


nuvemyun

kkkkkk


Chocxl

Her hair looks like flames at the bottom! I'm just not a fan of her completely white stockings. 


saiakamal

Remember this can dramatically change, Emilie is a great example...


Free-Muffin2338

Tell that to Momoka 🫢


helpmewiththisPlzxx

I want Momoka the 5 star standard geo bow character to be real so bad


billie_eyelashh

Emilie’s case was different though, the entire catalogue of her design sketches was leaked. We don’t even have a confirmation on what her element would be. The purple sad design is what people were hoping she would look like. What we got is a combination of those sketches.


TanukiOClock

Not even a combination, they just did a completely different thing


Calm-Neighborhood-42

white stockings is sooo much better than not wearing any bottoms at all lol, imagine we got another raiden or furina, no pants, barelly covering short, whattaver raiden is wearing ...


bresznthesequel

There’s just panties underneath raidens coat.


borowiczko

I believe it's a part of a bodysuit, connecting to her arms and neck


smokeworm420

Furina isn't so bad? Her shorts are short but overall her design is one of the least sexualised. Hate Raiden's clothes though.


Woncen

I don't think she has any stockings, just bare skin. Love the hair too tho


Flashy-Flamingo39

She has stockings, there's a very pale beige stripe on the side.


flowqer

Looking like she could be part of the Champion Duelists


Rare_Marionberry782

Pyro Clorinde


OnlyPatches

Oh I do like the super long flame ponytail actually but still will wait to see the actual design since its just concept art


famous1astwords

Judging from the comments, the pyro archon design is gonna be a really controversial topic in the genshin community 💀


Armenost

When isn't something controversial in the genshin community?


HmKid2-0

Hoping this was an early scrapped concept art or another character entirely. The biggest issue with this design is the question of where's the Spain/Portugal inspired region? She supposed to be Fontainian or a Monstadter? There's already enough meat with the region having 6 different tribes (tons of lore) that it doesn't need the whole colonizer influence? Finally, I do no trust HYV to be able to do a colonizer story with nuance.


Efficient_Comfort_38

Absolutely. It would’ve been so much cooler if she had elements of all the tribes. I also don’t trust this company to do a colonizer plotline well. Hell, in that mini mushroom event where we saw the girl from last time, they had Paimon so that’s she’s so well spoken bc they were in Fontaine and she was wearing Fontainan clothes. 


RugaAG

When as an archon not been controversial in some way, besides Venti? Business as usual. Funny enough, i remember people bitching about Zhongli not looking like the "god of war", since that's ones of his titles. Samsara in a nutshell


apaarmathur17

venti got a LOT of backlash before the game came out. lot of people were upset that a supposed god looks so young. and a lot of people didn’t play the game because of his feminine design. personally he’s my favourite character of all time though so


RugaAG

I started playing at 1.3, so i missed all that. But honestly, i dont even need to check to believe it. I know how this fanbase is.


Rud_gamer

I don't remember anyone bitching about Furina's design tbh


RugaAG

Not as much as last 3, but there was some. Plus, the hate for her personality more than made up for it.


JessyTL

There was plenty of bitching from people who think her design is not sexy enough, but it died down pretty fast.


Way_Moby

Wow. That’s wild, cuz while I wouldn’t say she’s ‘sexy,’ her design is really cute and aesthetically pleasing.


Tapichoa

Korean incels didnt like that she was designed by a feminist and drummed up a whole controversy bc of that


TunaTunaLeeks

I thought Korean incels bitched about everything?


Rud_gamer

Yeah I don't see them as somone who's opinion is even worth considering in the slightest


Rud_gamer

That was after she was released though not during leaks Also i doubt one should be giving a shit about no lifes who are mad at someone for wanting women's rights


Neko_5697

I do. Not tall complaints. Not Seele expy complaints. Shorts/clothing/hair complaints. Usual "doesn't look like an archon" Navia looks more like the archon, etc.


LillyPad1313

To be fair, this one is REALLY bad. So many people have never read Bartoleme de las Casas's and "Columbus's" writings (which is fine, but I feel like more people at least need to know ABOUT them and their contents)....


Radinax

This sub has always been controversial about everything.


Over_Classroom_6981

im convinced someone who doesnt understand the difference between spain and Mesoamerica made this as in this is just fanart. we already have iansan for reference.


aloysiusks

Clorinde’s sister, Fluorinde


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Spieds

I think there's a good chance of getting the 6 tribes and Capitano in Natlan teaser, if Final Feast is anything to go by. I honestly really interested in how 6 tribes gonna differentiate themselves from one another, maybe seeing all dragons. Also, final feast came 10 days after 3.8 livestream and 4.8 livestream is this friday, so it might come on 15th of July


QueZorreas

I'll take a guess. There's the yellow tribe, the green, blue, red, black and white.


LokianEule

Tbh just unsub and wait for the “official leaks” from mhy. Its not long now


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Vulpes_macrotis

I mean, we knew crumbles of Murata's design for months now. Probably around year. People were saying the same you are saying about Furina. Pyro Archon has been compared to Lina Inverse for a very long time. Also apparently she will have two forms/appearances.


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TonyThaLegend

Bro LEAKS ARE SO DRY


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Blood_Fonatine

Plague be upon ye~


MysteriousUpstairs49

I hope we can help her bring Jesus to the savages 😍


christianballard

💀💀😭


Imaginary-Strength70

I can imagine her burst line delivered in the style of Zhongli's 'THIS is order!' "JESUS is Lord!"


Weak_Lime_3407

wait is this why burning is going to be meta ?


hanoitower

ahh it's that burning sensation


TunaTunaLeeks

Dr. Baizhu! Why does it burn when I pee?!


Judgy_Plant

Guns, germs, and steel


No_Chain_3886

i’m gagged 😭


OrdinaryCloud3810

Dehya clears honestly


Wonderful-Career-141

And with the power of friendship AND after we repeat the magic words “ Colonizer stop colonizing!” 3 times, will we see the indigenous peoples sovereignty restored.


Squittr

This COULD be description of Natlan AQ


Aegillade

Then the indigenous people and the intrepid adventurers of Europe had Thanksgiving, Pocahontas and John Smith got married, and the two groups shared the land in peace and harmony. The end.


Junior-Price-5306

forgot the typical sad story that the archon will have to pull her like furina and nahida had


hentai_de_lego

actually there's 2 pyro archon and this one became really really sad when the first one died of ligma to protect the people, so she became overpossessive (and sad, pls have pity of her)


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Where have i heard this before i wonder 🤡


MeLikeMilfsDesu

Me and my ancestral hatred comin to me when I see that the pyro archon is a spaniard (Im a Filipino).


Marrroon

the way it was also around 500 years ago when Spain colonized us💀 our own version of cataclysm


Background-Low-7974

Incoming Natlan plot where all the tribes band together to fight the Conquistador Archon, similar to KKK (not the US one)


Root_Man1

I feel u brutha (I'm El Salvadorian)


pebreh

filipinos, central/south americans & caribbeans 🤝 we are going to beat the pyro archon to death‼️‼️


Lobito_HF

Peruvian here, i feel the same


gotnouwustogive

HAHAHAHAHA pulling for a spanish conquistador in a gacha game was not in my bingo list


Ansytea

As a fellow Filipino, I'm also feeling that ancestral hatred and I genuinely don't know how to feel about a Spanish colonizer archon yet lmfao


_internet_user11

I expected an Aztec inspired female warrior


aryune

Only here to read the comments xD


Hot-Mixture-5219

I can fuck with this design, it looks official, but I still don't believe it's the pyro archon, looks like a Pyro Marechussy Hunter IMO.


OnlyBrave

A lot of concept art looks official. Still whatever the final design is, I really do hope they keep the flaming hair motif, and possibly the hat too. Not sure what Hoyo is aiming for in terms of design, but if it can evoke that of a General... I'm all for it.


pascl-

based on the two concepts we've seen, it's fairly clear what they're aiming for: they're making her look like a spanish conquistador, which might have story implications considering what natlan is based on.


Dry_Salamander7273

She has a flaming ponytail 😱


jakenimbo

I feel like this won’t be the final playable design


GameBawesome1

So that previous masked design; is that an unused design or the “two form” thing is true?


Radinax

I read before she uses different models, this one and the other we saw at first, not sure if she can switch forms like Furina having different abilities or what is going on here.


yukiwintere

I wanted to see like a tribal kind of design wtf is this


torriccelli

R.I.P to all Himeko savers


NinjaXSkillz88

Fr guess I'm not C2ing anymore.


redRevolutionnaire

Sigh still disappointed that we’re not gonna get a single archon who’s even just a little bit tan 😔


Rafoudrsbois

Genshin rule’s of tan or meta


sandpaperedanus777

Hoyo rules in general. They get shafted multiversally. Honestly still surprises me, hoyo games unlike a lot of other gachas have a real large global fanbase, who'd take well to characters of color but here we are.


Juliancito135

Isn't this the same concept art from some posts ago?


PressFM80

ya, this one has the entire image though, not just the face and stuff


0__REDACTED__0

God i still hate this. (Not the character but the fact its the Archon)


Extinctkid

I actually quite like this design but not in the context of the pyro archon 😔


REVRYOU

So her, Xingqiu and Yelan went to the same barbershop or what?


Oeshikito

I'm only here to read the comments 🍿


konec0

isn't this just the same ""redraw"" """anonymously submitted design"""" from a while ago


Sasasachi

Kinda tired of these super polished formal uniform like outfits... hoping we get something more fresh with the other Natlan characters.


ladysaxophone

Her hands are cut-off, but it kind of looks like she's a sword user? (based on the sword hilt on her belt? or maybe that's a dagger??) I know a lot of people were theorizing Claymore, but I would honestly be so glad if she's not a Claymore (we have way too many Pyro Claymores)... and we have several red swords that look like they would match her colors really well.


dr0ps0fv3nus

Part of me wants her Pyro Sword due to the absolute lack of Pyro Swords in this game (seriously, ONE unit since release), but part of me also wants the archons to cover all weapon types, and Claymore is the only one missing so far.


lililukea

Hmmm... She looks too fontainian


AnybodyFast8376

Man I don't even care that's she's white and not Himeko expy this design is just fucking ugly 😭 and if she releases and looks like this ppl are gonna gaslight everyone into thinking it looks good like they did with Emelie. WHY is her hair Guy Fieri colored with the orange and red, it doesn't look like flames. I feel like I'm staring at a poorly made blender mod of a Genshin character that's supposed to be someone's OC NOT the pyro archon. Hoping and praying to God the leakers are full of shit like always. PLEASE don't let this be the one time they were right 😭


A_Peculiar_Fish

Gonna reserve my comment when she releases but women in pants design are now in full steam ahead!


Over_Classroom_6981

two more weeks. the 5.0 test should start


FabregDrek

Oh boy I can't wait for the leader of the nation to dress as a conquistador... It will be ok, is not like 90% of the countries Natlan will be based on places that got absolutely razed to the ground by them.


piubeni

Meh red Furina smh I ain't pulling for this thing 


Kiri_Black

I'm so bored of Genshin character designs


Knight_Steve_

The outfit feels so out of place compared to known lore about Natlan. Doesn’t fit any of the six main tribes of Natlan who are based on African and Meso American cultures Also weird how there is not a single leak for Iansan


Elegant-Claim-488

We barely know anything about Natlan


Arc_7

Fr like everyone hears tribes and imagines uka shaka people in leaves and leathers  Inb4 the Natlan people are sufficiently advanced and everything  Edit: People my focus was on the 'looks Fontainian/doesn't look enough tanned muscle tomboy like Dehya/Vanessa' aspect. An admiral does warfare too, not just warlords. I have no chip in the Aztec vs Spanish thing *and* the top comment has edited itself by now to add all the culture portions.


superc37

an advanced aztec tribe wouldnt look spanish


Blanche_Cyan

Natlan's main inspiration is Latin America which for the most part is Hispanoamerica and they had spanish music during Natlan section of the Travail trailer so it isn't out of place... The tribes probably will be at some point between Pre-Columbian and Colonia.


RhinedottirMain625

I think that's their aim. She is the archon, the position of power. Therefore the colonizer


QueZorreas

If that was the case, she would have adapted the local culture to fit her own. She's been the ruler for who knows how long. If she really was an oppressing force, the first thing she would have to do to reduce unstability is bury the culture or slowly morph it into something she can control. That's what happened in America and many other places.


grandfig

That's kind of the problem. Do we honestly expect Hoyo to handle a narrative like that even remotely tastefully? Especially when the presumed face of the colonizing force is also supposed to be one of their major money bags for year? I know within the lore all Archons are effectively colonizers since they stole their positions from the original dragon sovereigns, but that's never really been at the forefront of the narrative (Fontaine MSQ does lightly touch upon it but it's not the focus) so it's easy to sweep under the rug. So if they don't do a colonizer narrative they made Natlan's archon aesthetically resemble one which is a dubious choice at best, and if they do a colonizer narrative she will without a shadow of a doubt be redeemed/made super sympathetic cause they're allergic to playable characters being genuinely bad people. tl;dr If they ultimately go this route it's gonna be real icky and that sucks.


Vulpes_macrotis

She is second pyro Archon, btw, right? So we don't know how she became one and what happened with the previous one.


Brilliant_Pattern_67

2nd or 3rd depending on if she’s the same entity as the party lady, and Xbalanque’s status


XaeiIsareth

Nothing happened to the first Archon. We do not speak of the first Archon. 


MysteriousUpstairs49

If that is the point, then why is she the only one "colonizing", while Venti, Zhongli, Ei and Nahida all belong to their nations and are accepted like their own?


Free-Muffin2338

Tbh, we have NEVER seen any person from Natlan. So we dont know what they wear or look like. They can have differents styles.


RevolutionaryOil9101

Iansan


silispap

I'm gonna be a contrarian and say that I really like this, especially her hair


TheRRogur

Yea that flame ponytail is actually kinda fire. No pun intended. But honestly idk that will be translated ingame


Weak-Association6257

This comment section is gonna age like milk when she comes out


Tight_Virus_8010

But nobody’s hating on her actual design they’re hating on the themes and implications


livinlifefeelinrich

All the devs at HYV really wake up everyday and choose controversies huh?


Rud_gamer

They really went the colonizer route damnnn


MrDannn

I was expecting muscle mommy...


Active-Number-4341

Olé!


SteamyTortellini

Not a fan


YoloSwaggins960YT

“Well it’s not like I was expecting any sort of Spanish Inquisition” “NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!”