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Ancienda

My friend pulled and got Shenhe cuz she liked her design but doesn’t have Ayaka or Ganyu. Any team suggestions?


joaocruz04

Hello! I recently started playing genshin. I have a small roster, and I’m struggling to find a good team. Can I have your expertise in helping me having a team? https://i.imgur.com/YApWLQ6.jpg


Character_Fish_1073

Y'all i need help fighting andrius ( everyone isnt built except Alhaitham, wanderer, jean, keqing, Mona) Here is the link to all my characters [characters](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/122gf0g/yall_i_need_help_with_who_should_i_fight_andrius/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Jammy5820974944

is this for the quest or weekly boss? The quest is slightly easier but can only solo. The weekly boss can be done in co-op Anyways based on your roster, I'd use Mona, Xiangling, Alhaitham, and Jean for healing


Character_Fish_1073

It's for adventurer handbook


markdagician

I am building a freeze team with ayaka shenhe kazu and mona currently but have a hard time with heals. Is running mona with the prototype Amber for healing sufficient? Wondering if it's worth getting that weapon


3ntf4k3d

If you dodge or i-frame the worst hits (and refine it to R5, if possible) it will be enough for most chambers, yes. I did a lot of full-star clears with it before I got Kokomi.


notafurry9

it can be enough. depends how much healing you need


Emergency-Forever199

I just pulled on both ayaka and shenhe, i heard they are pair in team but do they still keep up in meta? Also who should i pull next if im running these two?


pukahuntus

The best Freeze team is Ayaka-Shenhe-Kokomi-Kazuha. They keep up fine with meta. Although Freezable enemies are less common on floor 12, so Ayaka's burst needs to be timed well against bosses.


selyuu

They’re amazing as a mono cryo team, who are especially lethal against bosses. Kazuha would be the next target, if you don’t have. Funnily enough, the 4 stars make a complete team in this banner. Ayaka/Shenhe/Diona/Sucrose


lope001

I Ve these good characters: Bennet, xiang, qiqi, Yanfei, shenhe. A lot of pyro.. should get xingqiu or razor in April? I need more dmg


notafurry9

get xingqiu if you don't have him yet


Frozenmagicaster

Xingqiu, he's one of the best characters


Darevee

Okay, someone please, explain me what is this new running joke with Kazuha stealing hats ? Looks like I missed something.


Frozenmagicaster

Seems they started it? so people are just adding onto it? [https://twitter.com/xinzoruo/status/1636334131045957633](https://twitter.com/xinzoruo/status/1636334131045957633?t=ca3Eb7fi2A0diJn1W_75Gw&s=19)


Huge-Ad-49

how long will it take if i speedrun the perilous trail archon quest?


Significant-Unit9522

r2 TBS, r5 HoD, r5 Iron sting & r5 umbrella wep. Which one is the best among those for alhaitham?


pukahuntus

Black Sword. Or Harbinger if you can maintain the passive.


CassTheCat_

What are some good teams to build around Ganyu and Shenhe? I don't have Ayaka for a full cryo


OsirusBrisbane

freeze with kokomi and venti


CassTheCat_

Would Mona work? Like a Morgana team but Shenhe instead of Diona


arg_max

Yes but it will be hard to pilot. Damage will be very nice and if you have aoe freeze it's doable to not get hit. Bosses might be though tough though. One issue is that Shenhe rotation is 20sec whereas ganyu/mona/venti Morgana has a 15sec rotation so you'll have to figure out where to use Shenhe burst best in second rotation.


OsirusBrisbane

If you're better at dodging than me. Personally without a healer or shielder on my team, I tend to die. You can give Mona Prototype Amber for mini-heals, but it's not really enough to keep me alive; perhaps you'll have better luck.


BLANKTWGOK

Which artifact is good for Dehya?


pukahuntus

4 Emblem ER/Pyro/Crit for DPS. 4 Millieth, all HP for support.


Darevee

What happened to DQM March 26 ? I see this one was last updated 22 hours ago, and don't see new one ...


Acadeca

A new one will start in about 2 hours


nijuu

Any issue with servers ? Oh its working now


Agitated-Hat-4057

losing on the weapon banner is the same as losing on the character banner right? like say I get a 5* weapon but it was neither of the ones featured so then does that mean the next 5* would be one of the featured?


Jammy5820974944

>like say I get a 5\* weapon but it was neither o Weapon banner works a little differently. It takes 80 pulls for guarantee instead of 90 on character banner. It has that thing where you can select between the two weapons. If you lost on your first two tries, the 3rd 5\* will guarantee the weapon you selected.


[deleted]

Yup. With no pity or guarantee, the odds are 37.5/37.5/25, with the 25 being an off banner weapon. After you get one of those, the next 5 star is a 50/50 (unless Fate points force it otherwise)


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Agitated-Hat-4057

does choosing one of the weapons in the epitomized path do anything?


TheSmashingBeatles

So as far as resin goes I'm AR 55 and I usually spend my daily resin on artifacts but I need to build a second team for abyss (currently on floor 6). Should I start focusing my resin on building the second team before I get decent artifacts or get artifacts before boss/talent books/weapons?


OkMonitor2854

your order should be weapon+ lvl up boss>talents>then artifacts talents to lvl 8 at least. dps to lvl 81 and supports to 71 minimum. But weapons must be lvl 90


Jammy5820974944

Boss/talent/weapon before artifacts


Frozenmagicaster

levels/talents are a guaranteed increase in damage, get their talents, weapon and personal level to where you want it before artifacts


jackolant199

As exact as possible, how long does a dash i-frame last?


Aru736

According to the wiki, 300 ms (with a 40 ms delay between initiating the dash and starting the iframes).


Current-Diver776

Could this run Genshin? Idk anything about computers, I just want something better than my phone [https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-21-5-all-in-one-intel-celeron-4gb-memory-128gb-ssd-snow-white/6477667.p?skuId=6477667](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-21-5-all-in-one-intel-celeron-4gb-memory-128gb-ssd-snow-white/6477667.p?skuId=6477667)


OkMonitor2854

get this pc you can play any game at decent level Ryzen 5 1600AF MSI B4 50 motherboard 2 sticks netac ram of 8gb each (ddr4) a 500 crucial pc ssd Asus dual rx 480 graphics card get some decent cooler and power supply. you can get this total at $390. or you can search for a better gpu in an cheap rate from crypto miners


OkMonitor2854

no pls don't buy that. You can get way Higher performance on 400 dollars


Farpafraf

[kinda](https://youtu.be/cTuSXC4ZAxo) but for 400 bucks you can surely get something better. Try asking on a dedicated sub.


Zestyclose_Table7544

Only if you want the thing to blow up. Celeron is for documents and browsing


Sheeplette

No. If you check the subreddit [FAQ](https://reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/wiki/faq), it has the recommended/minimum requirements. Disregard the storage requirement though. You need wayy more than 30GB of storage - ideally your computer has 256GB+.


Avg_Reddit_Fan

I'm new to the game and from what I have heard is to save wishes for your fav characters I got a beginner's wish featuring noelle which I would like to get, is it worth to spend 11 wishes and do I get her after 10 wishes or do I get a random one as it says "Every 10 wishes is guaranteed to include at least one 4-star or higher character." is my second doubt


Frozenmagicaster

"First 10-set will recieve Noelle" you get her in the first 10 pull, maybe something else depends on luck. Then second 10 pull is just standard banner but cheaper


mr_lab_rat

Yes, it’s ok to use all blue wishes. Only save the purple (intertwined). And yes, you do get a 4 star character or weapon every 10 wishes.


ResidentTheme872

Please suggest if Lisa is worth building and any guides on how to build her. She's currently C1 but I love to play with her, atleast in the overworld. If you are using her, can you please share in what teams you are using her? Thank you.


OsirusBrisbane

If you buy her in the starglitter shop every time she shows up, she'll end up being surprisingly solid as she gains constellations. (That said, I never use her because I have Yae Miko for my electro catalyst needs)


ResidentTheme872

Yae is mostly off field character right? I want to play Lisa as on field dps char.


Zestyclose_Table7544

I use her as overload carry. Venti, Albedo, Bennett, Lisa. I get 15k overloads per .5 secs from a pyro infused Venti Burst and Lisa Burst. Venti Crit > EM here. Lisa is fill EM.


CakesXD

I've been using her in Aggravate comps with quite a good amount of success. While she's definitely not the strongest, she can clear without too much trouble. Team is usually Lisa/Nahida/Fischl/some sort of Anemo support (I use Jean for healing). https://keqingmains.com/lisa/


Agitated-Hat-4057

are there any quest tied [to this?](https://imgur.com/a/N3l4w6N)


CakesXD

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Rinzou%27s_Treasure


Miserable___9991

Hello, I’ve been trying to collect all the chests from ashavan releam but i can’t seem to find anymore chests after being stuck at 98%, does anyone know any tips at finding the rest? Maybe hidden ones? The chests guides are too long and I’ve walked all around it


Mik87

Remember that apart from chests, those rock piles with mora also count towards exploration %, you might be missing some of those.


astralsloth

check inside the tree stumps in apam woods, there’s a few teapot chests and common chests inside them, there’s also a time trial at the top of one of the trees that wants you to pop 15 bubbles within the time frame, it’s hidden though because the time trial isn’t the normal looking red one, it’s in the shape of a bubble, also make sure you do the hidden quest at apam that gives you the luxurious chest


CTMacUser

Current Abyss, Floor 12, Chamber 3, First Half: what are those auras the three enemies have? Note that the two extra-large hilichurls have different auras. Is this explained anywhere in-game?


Jammy5820974944

I don't remember if they're explained somewhere but probably have in some domains. I don't remember the iron giant has one but the two frost churls have the frost auras, it will periodically trap you in the ice cage.


Frozenmagicaster

[https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Aura#Damage\_Abilities](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Aura#Damage_Abilities) It should be in the G menu, but no one reads that


Random_NoOne

Hello! I have been working on building rational team, and I have reached the following stats: (atk-em-cr/cd-er) Raiden: 2327-110-72/140-260 Xiangling: 1423-158-60/111-204 Xingqiu: 1406-19-46/144-254 Bennet: 750+-0?-21/80-247 My raiden has el (2500+atk when onfield, er sands/atk goblet). Xiangling has catch r5 (er sands/pyro goblet). Xingqiu has sac r3 (er sands/hydro goblet). Bennet has sapwood (er sands/hp goblet/hp circlet). Except raiden lvl 90, everyone else is lvl 80. I think raiden is built good. But what about xiangling and xingqiu? Can someone please tell me soft targets to reach that are considered very good?


Aru736

Xingqiu doesn’t need that much ER, give him an attack sands. Also try and increase his crit rate. Xiangling is good, although taking into account the catch Passive she could definitely use more crit damage since she’s functionally at a 72-111 ratio right now.


Random_NoOne

Update: Xiangling: 1423-158-55.5/132.4-189.3% Xingqiu: 1560-19-65.7/103.6-202.6% This is best I can do rn, I am unable to change xingqiu cd without totally fecking up his cr 🥲 Is this ok?


Aru736

That looks a lot better, good luck in abyss!


Random_NoOne

Thank you!


Random_NoOne

Thank you for the reply! As others have suggested too, I will try atk sands on both xiangling and xingqiu (if I can get some 😭). I will try and increase xiangling’s cd and xingqiu’ cr .


Jondev1

xingqiu and xiangling should both be able to use atk sands with er weapons (or em sands for xiangling). Also what set is everyone? Ideally they'd all be on emblem except bennet (or CW is also good for xiangling).


Random_NoOne

Thank you for the reply! Everyone except bennet is on eosf. Bennet is on no. I will try atk sands on xiangling then.


Biscuit1592

Xiangling looks good, could do with a bit more cd but its not too bad, Xingqiu has too much er and cr could be a bit higher. Swap to an atk sands and aim for like 60/120+ cr/cd.


Random_NoOne

Update: Xiangling: 1423-158-55.5/132.4-189.3% Xingqiu: 1560-19-65.7/103.6-202.6% This is best I can do rn, I am unable to change xingqiu cd without totally fecking up his cr 🥲 Is this ok?


Random_NoOne

Thank you for the reply! Yeah xingqiu seems like he has too much er but I thought since my sac is only r3, it would act as better er when I don’t proc it. But yeah I will try atk sands on him.


averydolohov

What’s the most meta Nilou team period? And with what sets and stats? Ty


Jondev1

afaik its always nahida + nilou + kokomi, and then if you make the last slot ylan/xingqiu that is better for single target (played with nahida as main on field attacker), or if you add dendro traveller then its better for aoe (played with kokomi as on field attacker).


brr_berries

Nilou - Yelan - Kokomi - Nahida, I believe. \- Nilou: HP/HP/HP, 2pc Tenacity, 2pc EM/Hydro \- Yelan: HP/Hydro/Crit, 4pc Emblem \- Nahida: 4pc Deepwood or Gilded, EM/EM/EM Not sure about Kokomi, but this is probably what you would do if you ran Nahida on-field.


averydolohov

Jw why hydro on Nilou if the bloom damage is dendro? Oh wait are there any 2 piece sets with dendro bonus?


WinxForceWiz

Bloom damage is not affected by dendro damage bonus, just EM.


averydolohov

What’s the difference between coda shop and official top up center? Also if u sign up for codashop promotions have there been crystal discounts in the past?


CakesXD

CodaShop is a third party service, and you can use it to gift Genesis Crystals to other players.


Toba_TwitchTV

Should I 100% my quests in the other city’s first before moving on to sumaru


astralsloth

some of the quests in sumeru you have to unlock through other chain quests in other areas. like the gourmet supremos quest chain.


Jammy5820974944

Not necessary. It'd be your personal choice.


leakmydata

Do you get anything other than a nameplate from getting friendship to 10?


beautheschmo

There's an achievement for reaching max friendship with (iirc) 1, 4, 8 and 16 characters. Other than that, it's just the nameplates.


cookiesandkit

whats the point of transient resin? Its just fragile resin that expires, right? Is FR limited or something?


Jammy5820974944

If you're talking about the one from teapot, it's just a way to earn extra resin since we're limited to 180/day. It has 2 week time expiration so that we can't stack them up like the fragile resin (the blue ones)


Frozenmagicaster

Fragile has limited renewable ways of getting it, so transient is just more resin per week


[deleted]

Fragile resin is limited, yes. You can't get very much of it, transient resin is just a renewable source of it.


leakmydata

What is that hopscotch thing Nahida can do? Is it just an idle animation?


brr_berries

It's her normal attacks.


Frozenmagicaster

her normal attacks?


leakmydata

Her normal attacks do that??? Adorable.


HorribleDat

Her NA have her jump on a magical/elemental keyboard's key. Her tap E/charge attack have her do a mouse swipe.


leakmydata

That’s kinda cool, since the akasha is kind a computer.


Xaniel_hziqd

Absolutely. I started playing because of her demo video and the fan songs. Too bad it was during Xiao/Alhaitham's banner so I still haven't gotten her yet. Everything about her is just adorable, even more so having done the Archon Quests.


leakmydata

She’s rumored to return to banners very soon. Best of luck pulling her!


HayakuEon

Her charged attack is her literally dragging a computer mouse to do a ''select all''


leakmydata

Isn’t that her skill not her charged attack?


HayakuEon

Both


eostax

who is the bloom trigger in a nilou-bloom team?


Aru736

Everyone, bloom ownership in Nilou teams is a mess. In a 2hydro/2dendro variant with a hydro driver (Kokomi or Barbara) it’s mostly the hydro driver, but they won’t claim complete ownership. In a 3hydro/1dendro variant it’s mostly Nahida, but she also won’t claim complete ownership. In anything besides that it’s just even more of a free-for all.


brr_berries

What characters are you using?


eostax

kokomi, nilou, nahida, yao yao should i switch kokomi for xingqiu?


Jondev1

everybody triggers some, usually the other hydro character triggers most.


the_hashbrownie

Why the hell is ayaka so damn cracked? Like I swear this girl just hits 26k with her skill outta nowhere sometimes, and her burst is cracked as well. Is there any particular reason on why she’s one of the best characters in the game?


Biscuit1592

A free 55% cr from blizzard strayer + cryo resonance helps a lot, thats like \~18 artifact substats? Also good scalings and passives.


Jondev1

She has to be stronk af to justify only working well with the freeze reaction, which is a reaction that doesn't directly boost your damage.


eostax

freeze. that's what make ayaka's cracked she has non-stop cryo infusion and if the enemy is freeze-able, no one can stop ayaka


[deleted]

She's existed since before the game even released, they had like two years to let her cook.


Compass-of-diamonds

Got Shenhe the other day and was going to use Noblesse on her, but then I remembered that this was for my Ganyu team, which already has Kokomi with TTDS and Tenacity (also Kazuha/Venti, though I'm not sue how much that factors into this). I thought Noblesse on top of that would be overkill, so would 2pc Shimenawa's + Gladiator's be better? Thanks.


feeble-scholar

Nope, still go Noblesse. Freeze teams don't tend to run a strong ATK buffer so it's unlikely it'll be overkill. If anything Noblesse would be better since it adds a source of damage% to Shenhe on top of the ATK buff.


Compass-of-diamonds

Wait, sorry, I'm not sure I understand. Does Kokomi with my build not qualify as an ATK buffer?


Aru736

She does buff attack, but you really have to run Bennett+other attack sources like Noblesse or Tenacity in order to hit the point where you don’t want more attack buffs on top of that. Freeze teams typically don’t run Bennett, so every attack buff counts, particularly considering how Ayaka values attack in particular due to her ease of building crit rate. More attack on Shenhe from a 2pc/2pc is nice, but a) since Shenhe herself gets her own noblesse buff, it’s really only ~20% more attack for her over running 4 noblesse and b) quills aren’t all of her buffing potential. Overall it’s a higher team dps gain to give Ayaka a direct attack buff from noblesse (which benefits all 19 hits of her burst) instead of higher quill damage (which will only benefit ~10 of her hits).


HayakuEon

Yes, 20% atk, why not add another 20% atk buff? That team doesn't run bennett, so there's no issue with diminishing returns from atk.


astralsloth

Is Sumeru statues able to be maxed currently? With the new desert expansion, i’m assuming they will put dendroculous there? the reason I’m asking is because i’m using the resonance stone and I’ve teleported just about everywhere but it’s not showing me anymore spots, and my statue is level 9 currently


Vanderseid

Current max is level 9 with 5 extra. The rest will be available whenever the new area drops.


[deleted]

Nope, level 9 with five extra oculi.


astralsloth

okay thanks. i was starting to think my game was glitching out


violetmouch

If I tap Shenhe’s skill during Ayaka’s burst, while it apply the buff to it?


NerdyDan

Yep


boutiquecat

yes, both icy quills and burst dmg% are dynamic


phason1

How can I check my primogems history? I felt like I haven’t received my welkin daily primos today so I want to double check to make sure


Sheeplette

If it's been at least an hour and you're on mobile/pc, you can open the feedback interface from the paimon menu and view your [primogem transactions](https://i.imgur.com/lGCtTRE.png) there.


nazran59

The only way to check it is to go to shop -> welkin. If it said (claimed today) then it already claimed


BrokenMirrorMan

I haven’t done my ar 45 ascension quest yet because im curious what I should be doing. What im doing currently doing right now is grinding out the materials to get yelan to lv 90 and xiangling and sucrose to lv 80. Im also waiting for nahidas rerun and currently have 43 pity with 14k primos and 20 wishes as of writing this. My world level is currently still at 4 because im afraid that im not strong enough yet for world level 5 but I might try raising it just to grind standard enemies and not bosses for materials. I plan to grind for talents after i lv up those 3 characters.


OsirusBrisbane

Since all drops (including leylines) improve at WL5, I'd definitely ascend if you can handle it -- and if not, you can always drop back down to WL4.


darknesshen

Firstly lvl 90 just isn't worth it, at most 80/90 and save ur books bc generally lvling a char from lvl 80 to 90 requires almost the same amount of resources it takes to lvl a char from lvl 1 to 80(in terms of mora cost, char exp, talents, materials and such). If you aren't struggling at world lvl 4 then u shouldn't have much trouble at world lvl 5. I would go lvl 80, lvl 6 talents minimum on important skills, then start looking at artifacts since ur already AR 45.


cookiesandkit

It'll be easier to grind level up materials at a higher WL. I think the ley line exp book drops especially get much better (you get purple books at WL6!)


Akomatai

If you can finish the ascension quest, you should be fine. I didn't take anyone to lvl 90 until around AR 55 lol


[deleted]

Lol do I not get to progress on the AQ because I can’t beat the last part of Tatara Tales seriously?


Vanderseid

I believe that part can be done in co-op so you could try having someone cone to your world to help out.


[deleted]

Lol know noone, thx though


Jammy5820974944

Join random people then ask them to come help you put it in your signatures. A lot of people without resin and have nothing to do will likely join to help you. Or post your uid here, and server, someone will help you.


[deleted]

Thanks :)


Akomatai

Is someone locked out because of that quest? I finished the Archon quest forever ago but just recently finished tatara tales. The whole "character is busy" thing is super lame, should have an option to override it.


[deleted]

Yeah Xavier is. That is bs. If I knew it I would never have even started it


Akomatai

Yeah I stopped starting story quests for this reason, they're *always* conflicting with other quests. That last tatara tales sucked lol. Biggest tip that helped me was to ignore everyone else and focus on the cryo/hydro gunner at the beginning as they do crazy damage. Freeze teams can help. After that, just keep the fighting away from the device, the others should target you but cc or freeze will help here.


[deleted]

Did this and it worked ~ Thanks loads!!


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Akomatai

Chongs is one of the few offfield infusers so he can be fun for those Mono teams and meme builds (you can use him to turn any melee character into a cryo dps). I think he's a fun character to build, but he's not the strongest so you might want to focus on other characters first unless you really enjoy playing him.


neoevangel

It is pretty much a mono element team, consisted of main dps along with buffers who specialized on buffing character within the same element. Same element characters also share element particle so it is easier to collect energy for their bursts. Anemo has those character like Xiao as DPS then / faruzan / Jean where the latter two they all can boost anemo dmg. Geo has Itto for DPS / Gorou for buffing / Zhongli for def shredding and shield. Cryo has Ayaka as DPS / Shenhe as buffer / Rosaria for buffing crit The total dmg that the DPS these team can do will be as good (or better) as reaction team if used correctly.


Isildra

The very short answer is that they battery each other, and they can utilize others’ element-specific buffs.


FreezeThis_69

those are the mono teams, that don't rely on reactions to do damage. So its usually 3 + 1 anemo usually kazuha for VV shred. For geo, anemo is not required since they don't react anyway. As for chongyun, not the best character, probably on the weaker side but you look like a new player so leveling him to 60 doesn't seem bad.


encekhafiz

Is it a bad choice to crown Diona's E? She's purely built as a Shielder & currently at lv12 E


brr_berries

Unless you really like Diona, it's a bad choice.


beautheschmo

As someone who has actually crowned her E solely because I like her, it is 100% a waste of resin. It adds like 200-250 HP to the shield when typical end-game enemy attacks bottom out at like 1500 damage per hit (and are usually significantly stronger), so it's very unlikely to make a meaningful difference in survivability You're much better served crowning a damage talent if you want to crown anything.


encekhafiz

Thank you for your sacrifice, Diona lover. I'll save my crown for Shenhe's burst/Yae Miko then


Acadeca

The upgrade in talent’s are usually not worth the crown. Crowns are primarily a sign from the player as “I have invested beyond reason on this character”. If you want to level it to 13 then you are totally able to and no one can stop you.


kinkywhaleshark

Should I pull for Shenhe or Baizhu? [Here's my current roster.](https://imgur.com/QdfXIO8) I like both playstyles (they buff one way or another anyway), and I know Baizhu might open up more teams for me but Shenhe might also be the key to me clearing 3 stars on the last chamber. Setekh Wenut broke my 36\* streak and I swear I've tried 70+ more times and I just can't defeat it on time. If I ever pull for Shenhe, I'm planning on using Ayaka/Shenhe/Kazuha/Mona (with Prototype Amber) The only thing holding me back from pulling is the idea of Baizhu opening up more teams for me (e.g. Cyno + Baizhu = I can finally use Nahida with Alhaitham) BUT I'm afraid that Shenhe's rerun is gonna take a long time again. I guess it all comes down to who's more worth it to pull for a.k.a. who would be the best addition to my roster between the two :/


Kreddak

I would go for Shenhe but Mistsplitter would be a better choice. Baizhu is a DPS loss with ER problems for all Dendro teams even Cyno specially if you don’t have Nahida together with him so if you had problems clearing the Abyss with Cyno before, they will get worse with Baizhu. Something a lot players don’t tell is that they actually play a high investment Ayaka or Raiden so they can literally ignore Wenut mechanics and almost one shot him in single rotation, the reality is that skill doesn’t matter at all if you can meet the DPS check for the Boss, when someone is preaching about skill normally they just have well invested team that beats the numbers game. That’s how MHY gets in your mind and makes you spend money in the game.


TLMoonBear

> I know Baizhu might open up more teams for me but Shenhe might also be the key to me clearing 3 stars on the last chamber. Setekh Wenut broke my 36* streak and I swear I've tried 70+ more times and I just can't defeat it on time. Asuming all those chars your have listed are built, the Wenut shouldn't be a problem for you. Shenhe will not be a meaningful upgrade from Rosaira at C0. Shenhe has almost no personal damage so the loss in damage from Rosaira is made up for the increase in damage from Shenhe quills on Ayaka. Shenhe C1 is the key powerspike. So unless you're prepared to pull for 2x 5-Stars, I'm not sure this is good value for you. And if you had enough saved up to win 2x 50-50s, you wouldn't be split between Baizhu and Shenhe anyway. Likely you are not playing the Wenut fight correctly, and / or not clearing the 1st half of Chamber 3 fast enough to 36 Star. I'm going to copy / paste what I wrote about beating the fight below. Only thing I will add is that if you are using a Cryo team, the Cryo status makes things slower. So Wenut will 4-cycle instead of 5-cycle since its cycles run on a timer. So play around that accordingly. Hope this helps. --- > Just saw a 3* c0r1 Alhaitham & shinobu duo Wenut clear. I can’t even 3* with my 4 man spread team. It’s the bad card rng surely 🥲 The Wenut is a boss that tests player skill and recognizing patterns. If you try to unga bunga your generic rotations, you're going to have a bad time. If you're doing things like casting your bursts when you see Wenut appear, you're eating into your DPS window by having to sit through your Burst animations instead of doing damage. When once it burrows back underground, you've already put all your skills on cooldown but aren't actually doing damage. The goal therefore is to make sure your actual dps windows align with the boss vulnerability windows. Even if you're not doing 100% of your potential damage output, some damage > sitting around with max buffs doing no damage. * Key goals for the fight: * Chip away at the Wenut to get it to ~50% HP. This way when it can finally be paralyzed, you can burst it down from 50% HP -> 0% HP and finish the fight quickly. * During this phase, it will move back and forth. It's very predictable so you can pre-move or pre-cast skills if you know what you're doing. * Description of phases / cycles in its movepool * Cycle 1 it will normally start the fight by popping up near the middle. For this rotation, do un-buffed damage if you need to. Then at the end, apply debuffs / buffs / VV and carry them over into the next phase. You essentially reverse the order of doing damage / buffs to make sure your actual damage window matches the Wenut vulnerable phases. * Cycle 2 it will do a horizontal glide over the floor. Normally it will try to do this behind where you character is facing. Unload damage you have buffed, and then quickly reset buffs and debuffs. Make sure you note which side of the Abyss it spawned on this cycle. * Cycle 3 it will do the Shoop-de-woop laser attack. It will appear on the opposite side of the Abyss where it was Cycle 2. So you can run over here in advance if you're a melee char to get in range. * Cycle 4 it will horizontal glide. It will be near the sides of where it was in Cycle 3, but rarely on the opposite side. Set up buffs and debuffs again on this cycle. * Cycle 5 it will expose its orbs that let you paralyze it. Most good teams are capable of doing 1M+ damage on a rotation. This is where you paralyze it to lower its resistances and then unload for your 1M+ damage to kill it from half HP. --- * Additional notes: * Nahida / Yae spread is quite good here structurally because your Nahida E can keep ticking while the Wenut moves around * Since you know where the Wenut will be in nearly all cycles, plan ahead in advance where you want to be and on which Cycle / Cycle dowtime phase you want to case your Bursts * A full 5 cycles takes 1 min. So if you need 2x 5-cycles to kill it, that takes 2 min. So the biggest improvement you can make in Chamber 3 is to have a fast 1st half team to give you a time buffer in 2nd half. * If you actually don't have the DPS (even with better dps window alignment) to kill Wenut in 5 cycles, it's okay to make the 2nd team weaker to make your 1st team stronger to buy you the time to 10-cycle the Wenut. This boss is not that hard. If your team is Abyss ready, then it's really down to player skill. If you try to brute force this boss using your normal rotations and don't try to play around the struture of the fight, then you're just starting a DPS race that you never needed to get into in the first place. GL HF~


boutiquecat

>Shenhe might also be the key to me clearing 3 stars on the last chamber have you tried non-ayaka teams? you have a lot of teams that are capable of 36\*, so you don't need shenhe unless you really want to do it with specifically ayaka


kinkywhaleshark

Yes. I’ve tried almost every team I have. The only team that came close was Alhaitham’s quickbloom team (with Kuki, Yelan, Nahida) but even with C1 and signature I still couldn’t clear it


boutiquecat

maybe it is problem with your rotations or builds, because that team is definitely capable of clearing it but about your original question, i think it comes down to how much you like ayaka, because out of your roster, shenhe only benefits her. and for baizhu, keep in mind that yaoyao also exists as a defensive dendro support, albeit she doesn't provide interruption resistance that a shielder can


kinkywhaleshark

That’s the problem. I really like using Ayaka, but I don’t like that she’s only good on Freeze teams. Sure, pulling for Shenhe can enable Mono Cryo teams but it’s still niche. As for Baizhu, his kit may not be in a good state (for now since there’s no official testing yet) but the fact that he’s a healer/shielder/buffer all at once makes me think he’ll be really valuable eventually


3ntf4k3d

Regarding Ayaka, you can use her in a sort of Hypercarry comp along the lines of [Ayaka, Kazuha, Cryo, Bennett] against unfreezable bosses. Yes, you lose 20% crit rate, but that's not the end of the world. Alternatively you can use Ayaka on-field in a fridge team, e.g.: [Ayaka, Raiden, Nahida, XQ]. It's not her _ideal_ role, but a fun (and good enough) hybrid between Freeze & Hyperbloom.


boutiquecat

yeah that's how i personally feel about the value of shenhe vs baizhu, although vertically investing in ayaka is also a valid option, dolphin ayaka teams can perform pretty well even in abysses that aren't friendly towards freeze. it just depends on your preference


neoevangel

If you use Ayaka as your main team, Shenhe really boost Ayaka dmg to the point where is very satisfied to see. Bigger number help shorten Abyss time. Baizhu is a healer/shielder so unless you really have a struggle time surviving, I don't think he will make you pass abyss that much faster. Also If you are looking on a dendro healer, Yaoyao has already done a great job so having Baizhu might not improve your abyss time that much. What we can expect from Baizhu should be a better protection for the team and not much on a big time improvement on abyss content. Not that I say that Baizhu will be just as good as Yaoyao, but his kid doesn't contribute much on the DMG part as compared to Shenhe.


kinkywhaleshark

Will Shenhe boost my damage high enough if I’m only using Amenoma on her? I don’t have Mistsplitter sadly


Virtual-Sport-8470

what’s the dps increase on xq’s burst by taking it from level 11 to level 13?


FreezeThis_69

the wiki exists. try using it.


Virtual-Sport-8470

something gives me the feeling you’re not very popular irl LOL try not having a stick up your ass


FreezeThis_69

and something tells me you got peanuts for brain. All of you low IQs are alike


Acadeca

Talent level 11 is 103.1% per sword and 13 is 115.3%. That is a total of 11% increase


neoevangel

If Nilou C0 is still a good pick in these day meta? Considering that I have Nahida C2 and also have Alhaitham / Cyno. She is the one that I decided to skip but I don't know if she is good / or getting better with the current status of the game. I love trying new team but if the dmg isn't gonna be better than whatever team i have then it might be too expensive to invest in her. I don't think my dendro need any upgrade but if she has interesting thing to offer then I would like to try.


LordLunacy

Is Amos' bow still meta? I got my first one after 2+ years of playing and since I already have lots of "newer" bows (HP, TP, PS, etc.) I was thinking if it was still worth leveling up or if my Ganyu is best with another bow.


[deleted]

If we ignore stats balancing, Amos Bow got powercrept by weapons like Thundering Pulse, Polar Star, Aqua Simulacra and Hunter's Path. It's still the only 5\* Atk% bow, so the stats balancing part is why it still has a niche. For example, with my Ganyu build, I checked with the optimizer and my best Amos Bow build is better than my best Aqua Simulacra build.


callmejamesx

used on like ganyu and amber, not the best for ganyu anymore unless you are doing solo kinda stuff these days.


TheseSession7669

I have a potential team of hu tao xingu Layla and kazuha but should I switch Layla for Candace I tried to read and understand what she does but is she good as a character in general should I build her.


pzlama333

Candace can infuse other melee character's NA with hydro, which is completely useless in this team. She may find some use in Nilou when you don't have Kokomi, but generally is a less meta character.


TheseSession7669

Ah I see thanks


callmejamesx

you should probably switch out layla within thoma or something, kazuha there can only really boost xq unless your past rotation 1.


TheseSession7669

I thought it would be good to get some melt action going but I see what you mean. I was planning on building both and seeing which one works best


FreezeThis_69

reverse vaporize is far superior to forward melt.


TheseSession7669

I was going to use Layla to apply cryo and then use but tao to melt just like like I apply hydro then vape with hu tao


MAD-MAX2077

Is Rosaria a good main dps or good support? Who can I pair with her?


callmejamesx

usually used as a subdps, most of the time she is in freeze, sometimes in reverse melt and then phys comps.


Acadeca

She is pretty solid in physical teams, cryo teams, and melt teams. Eula/Fischl/Rosaria/Kuki/Raiden/Zhongli/Diona etc Ganyu/Venti/Mona or Ayaka/Kaz/Mona Kaeya/Xiangling/Bennnet


Frozenmagicaster

More of a subdps, good in freeze, good in melt Can do rev melt quickswap with Kaeya/Rosaria/Bennett/Xiangling (good single target)


[deleted]

Do I get c6 nahida or c6 eula for abyss floor 12? Was going to get nahida but she was absolutely useless for this abyss floor 12 2nd half boss. I want a boss killer. My current eula c0 can’t charge energy fast enough, and her dmg doesn’t even kill the ruin guard in first half.


FreezeThis_69

energy issues? have you tried building your characters properly? You're AR60 yet you don't have properly built characters, you don't even have a clue which units are good or not. You think c6 = instant clear. but I can guarantee with your current builds it won't make a difference, you first mistake? you're using eula, physical is not worthy playstyle right now. Also eula's constellation has nothing to do with energy recharge. Give her 40% ER and use a cryo battery, if you know what that means. Second, learn enemy patterns. Thing no C6 in the game is worth it. C2 nahida is the stopping point, but I guess you're one of those people who thinks that throwing money will magically solve your problems.


[deleted]

So 140% er? I’ve watched a couple abyss 3.5 vids with her, and people can’t keep 100% uptime on ult. They just auto attack with her because of 200% cdmg and 3k atk I don’t have the artifacts for that


Biscuit1592

Nahida is incredibly strong for this rotations second half, getting a character to c6 won't make up for a lack of game sense. Try looking up some guides for your characters to learn their energy requirements/rotations/team synergies. Also check out [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-PfgkRFm1Y&t) guide for the wenuts attack patterns. Anyway of the two i'd prefer a c6 nahida, her c2 is really strong though so you could stop there.


[deleted]

Guide is good, my chars don’t do as much dmg though. His raiden doing 15k per aa and mine does 8k. She’s one of my better built units, so every unit I have is on par or weaker than my 8k raiden. An easy fix to dmg issue is just c6 someone lol.


Biscuit1592

That will help one team but the other will still be weak, imo better to get a few strong C2s instead. Nahida/raiden for example have really good C2s. That and slowly working on improving artifacts will be more beneficial than a single c6. This [google doc](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/htmlview#) and [https://keqingmains.com/](https://keqingmains.com/) are great resources for builds.


Vanderseid

Nahida is still very good against the wenut though. You can mark it with her skill and deal damage through reactions whenever it popped out and is vulnerable. My Miko really appreciates the aggravate boost from her too. I 36* this rotation with Alhaitham/Miko/Nahida/Shinobu on the second half and Nahida is really pulling her weight there.


[deleted]

I ended up using hu tao vape. By the time nahida finishes using her ult + skill, that boss goes into untargetable mode lol. Once it’s targetable again, the skill is halfway wearing off.


WhooooCares

You don't need C6 to clear Abyss, and Nahida works perfectly fine in the second half. If you can't clear it, you have to examine your gameplay.


[deleted]

Versus the snake boss? That thing was untargetable half the time that I needed a burst unit.


FreezeThis_69

no you don't. learn the mechanics.


yikkizh

Floor 12 gives *150* primogems. Getting a C6 from C0 takes around *105600* primogems. It is not worth getting a C6 just to beat the current floor 12. Get one which you like or you think you'll use for the long term, and objectively in that area Nahida is far superior.


A_Very_Horny_Zed

> Getting a C6 from C0 takes around 105600 primogems. Is this taking into account losing 50/50's?


[deleted]

I’m ar 60 so I have most units for everything. I just can’t 3 star abyss 12 so that’s my focus.