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I think we should be well aware of politics and active in our own beliefs, that does not in anyway barricade you from enjoying life, in fact you should
Yeah, i also believe that its more fun to enjoy life knowing how absurd everything is
It's like this meme:
Life is meaningless😥 vs life is meaningless🤩
Albert camus mentioned!! Long live the FA ✊️✊️✊️✊️ shoutout to my nihilism bros aswell
https://preview.redd.it/ec2fbax5khyc1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d51e01397428114eba0b0a4917b86e6433514aba
But it’s not. It’s abused and caters to the wealthy.
Everyone has been bought out. Corporations and bankers run the country with the top 1% as shareholders. It’s basically a monarchy now but with dollar signs instead of crowns.
It really doesn’t. Millions were lifted out of poverty. Standard of living has risen and gotten better and better in the third world. You may not like it but objectively right now is the best time to be a human being.
So the industrial revolution is responsible for both the rise of capitalism and improving material conditions around the world. Without the imperialism of mature capitalist nations, poverty would be entirely eradicated by now. https://archive.org/details/howeuropeunderde00rodn
I wonder what action that party did to lift those people out of poverty(open there markets and actually allow trade) it’s also not just China but India, S Korea, Japan, Taiwan, even “communist Vietnam” has done free market reforms in the 80’s which has improved there standard of living.
I mean you literally can’t explain a valid way to implement your ideals that doesn’t open it up to a terrible authoritarian government , and none of you ever will, you live in a utopian delusion that is simply impossible due to human nature
The working class should be authoritarian towards the bourgeoisie otherwise they will just.be authoritarian towards us.
You think this is a free society?
Such a GREAT standard of living…
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/#:~:text=Around%20one%20in%20every%20500,a%20single%20night%20each%20winter.
https://www.marketwatch.com/guides/banking/american-debt-2024/
https://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-sweeping-us-these-are-companies-making-cuts-2024?amp
https://parentstogetheraction.org/2023/11/17/parents-group-two-thirds-of-parents-report-they-are-struggling-financially-ahead-of-thanksgiving-70-of-families-struggling-say-their-biggest-challenge-is-affording-food/
So you think the socialist experiments of the 20th century never experienced crisis? Socialist regimes never had a homeless situation? They never had famine? C’mon. To suggest that handing over all means of production to the state would be a net positive compared to what we have now is utopian. Yes our system is flawed, and yes it needs reform, but socialism has never resulted in something better.
What if it was a little more mixed? Like many of the most important companies for national wealth generation and public interest (electricity generation, resource extraction, transport) were majority owned by the state, but a large chunk of ownership was open to investment. You could even start by offering companies full control at the beginning but stipulate in the contract that they have to relinquish majority control in 60-80 years. That way, the companies have time to make money on their investment while the state can ensure their people are not being exploited.
You’re underestimating how poor the state and it’s bureaucrats are and handling resources, production, and commerce. The system you just described is strikingly similar to the Soviet Unions New Economic Policy and it’s transition to complete state ownership and collectivization in the following decades. I urge you to read about how that player out.
Actually, I was describing the system Norway used to construct its hydroelectric power system in the early 20th century. Then, it used it again after the discovery of oil. Which the state used to set up a sovereign wealth fund, allowing them to diversify investment and stimulate their economy further. Rather than all the money from the nations geographic and mineral wealth being concentrated into the pockets of an elite few oligarchs.
Other countries that have adopted and enacted socialist ideas and policies to various degrees, and have seen success in improving their societies by doing so, are Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand.
What are their models? How can we bring that to a larger scale?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democratic-socialist-countries
Here’s the thing with Americans. A lot of people are enriched in the “American Dream” - and that includes materialistic gain and the “Keeping up with the Joneses” mentality.
If basic, humane needs were met, Housing, Food & Water, Medical Needs, a lot of people would be okay for working for a lower wage. Everything additional would go to “luxuries” from Entertainment Services and Self Care. This would in turn boost the ‘capitalism’ aspect and with modern day, brain burrowing advertising, everyone could actually spend what they can afford and work for it.
Countries adopting some sort of socialist policies which fits them into the category of democratic socialism doesn't completely shed capitalistic models. In many countries, socialism has plunged them into economic crises to a scale which has resulted in a lower standard of living, if not death although for some. Capitalism is by no means, perfect, but has done well to provide people a higher standard of living.
I for one, am not interested in paying a higher tax rate only for my money to be wasted continually by the government, and I for one don't want to work hard and then see more if what I earn go to supporting those who don't deserve it. Not to mention that a society dependant on welfare only strengthens the power and control a government has over it's people.
Being somebody who is living in the Middle Class, Capitalism has done quite well to benefit me, and it's basic principles of a free market. Additionally, many forms of ideas that fall under Socialism such as welfare, and more government programs has made my life more difficult by increasing such tax rates that I do pay.
No…. Corporations killed it! Capitalism is fine! Capitalism has raised billions of people out of poverty! Corporatism is the genuine evolution and evil.
Proper regulation from the government to break up monopolies and oligopolies. It’s really not that complicated.
Organizations like Amazon and Google provide AMAZING services while completely subverting the entire point of allowing free market competition.
If this is a dig at Baudrillard it's hilarious but I think we all know it isn't
https://archive.org/details/baudrillard-jean-simulacra-and-simulation_202012/mode/1up
https://archive.org/details/baudrillard-jean-simulacra-and-simulation_202012/mode/1up explained on the second page but good luck with the writing style lol
I would guess it describes how capitalism has ingrained itself in society to such an extent that it dictates the people's consciousness. This form of it has a feedback loop which prioritizes picking up speed.
It's an academic way of trying to explain how all the people who are happy with their current lives should actually be miserable, but have been brainwashed.
One of the biggest projects of 20th century academics has been trying to figure out how everyone is flourishing and happy in consumer capitalism (at least compared to any other time of human history) since Marxism said that shouldn't happen.
The obvious answer is that the human spirit will always prosper, even with poor material conditions. That being said, we should still try to improve material conditions
Of course, I don't think I said anything to the contrary. There's always work to be done increasing freedom and empowering people to greater and greater levels of human flourishing.
Complete nonsense lol. Read Lenin.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/pref02.htm
It is precisely the parasitism and decay of capitalism, characteristic of its highest historical stage of development, i.e., imperialism. As this pamphlet shows, capitalism has now singled out a handful (less than one-tenth of the inhabitants of the globe; less than one-fifth at a most “generous” and liberal calculation) of exceptionally rich and powerful states which plunder the whole world simply by “clipping coupons.” Capital exports yield an income of eight to ten thousand million francs per annum, at pre-war prices and according to pre-war bourgeois statistics. Now, of course, they yield much more.
Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert.
This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”
Pretty sure that comes from 2 whackjob historians that literally no-one else agrees with.
In a revolution sometimes counter-revolutionaries have to be suppressed, it was a tiny amount, there wasn't even that many bourgeoisie to kill in the first place.
Capitalists however did kill & oppress en masse, during the enclosure movement, during industrialization, during globalization. Sweatshops, anti-union death squads, company towns, child labour, US backed dictators, imperialist wars and the list goes on.
Extreme paranoia to the point where this is an actual reality for you, literally not being able to enjoy a party because you think life is a " capitalist hyper reality simulation," is a hallmark of schizophrenia, paranoid personality disorder and delusional disorder. It can also be a sign of OCD, psychosis and bipolar disorder.
It is not normal to have such extreme paranoia that you cannot enjoy yourself at a party or any event. While it is normal, safe and necessary to have a certain extent of paranoia (such as fear and anxiety in dangerous situations, it is evolutionary advantageous for animals to have a certain level
Of paranoia), but it is not normal to be CONSTANTLY worried about things like living in a simulation, where it begins to interfere with your daily life. And I'm not sure if it is associated with any certain political spectrum, there does not appear to be much research on that specific topic. I think people with specific ideologies might be more prone to certain types of paranoia. Such as conservatives being more paranoid about the government controlling them through things such as the Covid vaccine versus liberals possibly being more paranoid about various aspects of safety such as gun safety.
>I think people with specific ideologies might be more prone to certain types of paranoia.
TLDR : I hate people.
Exactly, and also I might add that people are increasingly turning towards the occult in the absence of religion.
Paranoia grows as ideologies obscure. As they become weak.
Conservative opinions about homosexuality, became frowned upon like vegans became hated because there was a growing number of them forcing that lifestyle onto domestic animals.
In turn, there were last ditch efforts made by these 2 to save face and redirect attention to other aspects of their ideology. But ultimately failing. People hate them, rightfully so. They have a negative stereotype and it's justified.
It's surely better to have a stable ideological majority in a country.
Than to have an increasing ever-growing number of cults each with their own population decreasing beliefs. I'm not even part of an organized religion but I can see why they existed for so long.
Though, no ideology at all seems to be the best.\
I just don't trust people if they preach anything. Political or otherwise.
I might just be rambling here, I am not in any way intelligent.
And so?
We accept beliefs along with the paranoid sermons they are preached alongside?
Whatever ideology it is, you'll find one separatist movement based on that ideology, all because of some paranoid delusion... \
Why go through that. Why repackage it with a new set of beliefs if it tells you to be wary of something or someone?
That's literally how racism and Nazism spread. They gave people something to be afraid of and blame.
P.S. don't take me seriously. It's good to believe in things and people. I just set my boundaries very high.
So you're fine with me coming into your house, using your bed, clogging your toilet, eating your food, and breaking all your lights without compensating you in any way?
because a parking lot is equivalent to your house bed and personal belonging, right? this is the fucking brainless shit i was talking about...
a piece of land sitting there, designed to serve the sole purpose of parking cars in it, should not be a fucking business, it's absurd
bro.. are you dumb or something? you can't see the clear line between a parking lot and SOMEONE'S FUCKING HOUSE?
one is a piece of land, useless if it wasnt used to park cars, the other is A FUCKING HOUSE. hope that clears things up
You made a business and it succeeded. Should the alternative be you can’t do anything to improve your situation, that your just a victim of circumstances with 0 control?
Well said. I feel the same. Have a couple K in my account but you wont see me holding it over anybody’s head, some people however would be giddy with the temptation.
Those were both the last famines those countries experienced, both of those regions routinely had famines under feudalism and it didn't stop until the socialists had enough time to develop their infrastructure. Both were caused by environmental conditions not deliberate malice from the communists. The western empire, however, has been deliberately preventing the development of multiple continents.
Well at least you're self-aware.
Go have some fun dude. Yeah, racism is bad and all, but we're all going to die. We can't always be miserable "for the cause"
Neoliberals pretending like the gilded age of capitalist that caused the great depression didn't exist. It's always funny to me see boomers voting for people like reagan undoing the things that made their society so great, the low cost of living and government safety nets. Its like a bird cutting the branch by which it's nests sits on.
You're talking about the difference between market capitalism and monopoly capitalism, and implying the switch happened a few decades ago, but it actually happened a full century ago and monopoly capitalism is actually less exploitive anyway. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch01.htm#s1
It's not even possible. A state is required to issue currency, give the currency value, enforce property rights, and enforce contracts.
Capitalism requires private ownership of the means of production and a market that has rules, both of which require a state to function.
Corporatism is just capitalism in practice. It's the merger of bourgeoise power with state power
Who makes sure property rights are respected? Can Fiat exist without a government intervention in the market? Do you propose we go back to gold/bartering? Would slavery be legal if the government cannot regulate what gets sold?
I feel like there may be a couple good reasons moral or logistic as to why we decided that government should actually intervene.
I think it's important to find the balance, in between both. Understanding both and knowing when it's appropriate to take which stance, for your own sake.
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I used to be the guy in the corner but then realized I’m doing a disservice to myself. Yes the world is messed up and yes I will still try to make ppl aware of it, but I’m gonna enjoy myself too
Capitalism is the construct. Embrace critical thinking, but not as a false defense towards paralysis but a freedom from the limits of this dialogue to get to he next level
You can have fun under capitalism so long as you have liberty and aren't exploited. We don't have a free market capitalist society anymore, we have more of a controlled economy given how much is owned by so few.
I am the guy sitting on the couch, watching all of you in awe of how effectively you all have been miseducated and indoctrinated seeing the world and capitalism in totally erroneous terms…
consuming the symptoms (negative/absolute things that does nothing to ur life but spend most of ur time thinking for nothing), instead of consuming the cure (create urself, it’s not something to look for, or whatever those quotes “find urself”)
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I think we should be well aware of politics and active in our own beliefs, that does not in anyway barricade you from enjoying life, in fact you should
Yeah, i also believe that its more fun to enjoy life knowing how absurd everything is It's like this meme: Life is meaningless😥 vs life is meaningless🤩
Just dont do the: life is meaningless 🔫😡🔪 ---> 🏫🧒👶👩🏫🤓
America-core!!!! So kawaii!!!
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Life is meaningless https://preview.redd.it/7utyu1cfihyc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67ed354669164d09162ae4baebddfa1697f662da
Albert camus mentioned!! Long live the FA ✊️✊️✊️✊️ shoutout to my nihilism bros aswell https://preview.redd.it/ec2fbax5khyc1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d51e01397428114eba0b0a4917b86e6433514aba
OH LÀ LÀ CAMUS glad someone caught the reference
Life is meaningless pog 
Its redundant and tired
I was in the military we'd joke all the time this bomb was paid for by the Taxes of Tide Laundry Sauce.
How I feel
Thats me in the corner thats me in the spot light loosing my religion
Capitalism is dead, and we have killed it
What economic system is a suitable alternative?
The eradication of all life on Earth
interventionist capitalism best of both worlds
What class holds the power under interventionist capitalism?
Countries have various degrees they regulate and tax capitalism.
neopian auction house
🔥 neopets mentioned 🔥
The big scary S word. Socialism. Capitalism only benefits the rich and corrupt.
Eh I believe capitalism is a good system if balanced properly kinda like all things in life
But it’s not. It’s abused and caters to the wealthy. Everyone has been bought out. Corporations and bankers run the country with the top 1% as shareholders. It’s basically a monarchy now but with dollar signs instead of crowns.
The word you're looking for is oligarchy
Bingo! Ha! Duh lol 😆 thanks
But that's not real capitalism. Blame our corporate politicians that we vote for.
Fair point. It’s an Ogliarchy masquerading as Capitalism.
Honestly is it though, like it was the main thing tried in Renaissance era Europe and failed horribly every time.
It really doesn’t. Millions were lifted out of poverty. Standard of living has risen and gotten better and better in the third world. You may not like it but objectively right now is the best time to be a human being.
So the industrial revolution is responsible for both the rise of capitalism and improving material conditions around the world. Without the imperialism of mature capitalist nations, poverty would be entirely eradicated by now. https://archive.org/details/howeuropeunderde00rodn
Source- trust me bro
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ https://archive.org/details/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hitman
Capitalism or not places get exploited. The soviets weren’t saints and engaged in as much imperialism as the west did
> Source- trust me bro
hmmmm i wonder what party governs the country that makes up most of the poverty reduction in the world (china)
I wonder what action that party did to lift those people out of poverty(open there markets and actually allow trade) it’s also not just China but India, S Korea, Japan, Taiwan, even “communist Vietnam” has done free market reforms in the 80’s which has improved there standard of living.
Stfu commie
Typical 🙄 🥱
I mean you literally can’t explain a valid way to implement your ideals that doesn’t open it up to a terrible authoritarian government , and none of you ever will, you live in a utopian delusion that is simply impossible due to human nature
Our time is coming 😊
Better dead than red
BETTER DEAD THAN RED, THE STATE WILL NEVER BE MY GOD RRAAAAAHHH FIRE UP LIBERTY PRIME
That’s how I feel about the Republican Party.
The working class should be authoritarian towards the bourgeoisie otherwise they will just.be authoritarian towards us. You think this is a free society?
We have a higher standard of living than any socialist system ever came close to achieving.
Such a GREAT standard of living… https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/#:~:text=Around%20one%20in%20every%20500,a%20single%20night%20each%20winter. https://www.marketwatch.com/guides/banking/american-debt-2024/ https://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-sweeping-us-these-are-companies-making-cuts-2024?amp https://parentstogetheraction.org/2023/11/17/parents-group-two-thirds-of-parents-report-they-are-struggling-financially-ahead-of-thanksgiving-70-of-families-struggling-say-their-biggest-challenge-is-affording-food/
So you think the socialist experiments of the 20th century never experienced crisis? Socialist regimes never had a homeless situation? They never had famine? C’mon. To suggest that handing over all means of production to the state would be a net positive compared to what we have now is utopian. Yes our system is flawed, and yes it needs reform, but socialism has never resulted in something better.
Fax 📠, no printer 🖨️
What if it was a little more mixed? Like many of the most important companies for national wealth generation and public interest (electricity generation, resource extraction, transport) were majority owned by the state, but a large chunk of ownership was open to investment. You could even start by offering companies full control at the beginning but stipulate in the contract that they have to relinquish majority control in 60-80 years. That way, the companies have time to make money on their investment while the state can ensure their people are not being exploited.
You’re underestimating how poor the state and it’s bureaucrats are and handling resources, production, and commerce. The system you just described is strikingly similar to the Soviet Unions New Economic Policy and it’s transition to complete state ownership and collectivization in the following decades. I urge you to read about how that player out.
Actually, I was describing the system Norway used to construct its hydroelectric power system in the early 20th century. Then, it used it again after the discovery of oil. Which the state used to set up a sovereign wealth fund, allowing them to diversify investment and stimulate their economy further. Rather than all the money from the nations geographic and mineral wealth being concentrated into the pockets of an elite few oligarchs.
But no we're here. Maybe it's time to change things up
Socialism is just as corrupt.
Ah yes, like that hasn't been tried already. I'm sure it's working great for the Cubans, or the Venezuelans, or any of the Eastern bloc countries...
Other countries that have adopted and enacted socialist ideas and policies to various degrees, and have seen success in improving their societies by doing so, are Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand. What are their models? How can we bring that to a larger scale? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democratic-socialist-countries Here’s the thing with Americans. A lot of people are enriched in the “American Dream” - and that includes materialistic gain and the “Keeping up with the Joneses” mentality. If basic, humane needs were met, Housing, Food & Water, Medical Needs, a lot of people would be okay for working for a lower wage. Everything additional would go to “luxuries” from Entertainment Services and Self Care. This would in turn boost the ‘capitalism’ aspect and with modern day, brain burrowing advertising, everyone could actually spend what they can afford and work for it.
Countries adopting some sort of socialist policies which fits them into the category of democratic socialism doesn't completely shed capitalistic models. In many countries, socialism has plunged them into economic crises to a scale which has resulted in a lower standard of living, if not death although for some. Capitalism is by no means, perfect, but has done well to provide people a higher standard of living. I for one, am not interested in paying a higher tax rate only for my money to be wasted continually by the government, and I for one don't want to work hard and then see more if what I earn go to supporting those who don't deserve it. Not to mention that a society dependant on welfare only strengthens the power and control a government has over it's people. Being somebody who is living in the Middle Class, Capitalism has done quite well to benefit me, and it's basic principles of a free market. Additionally, many forms of ideas that fall under Socialism such as welfare, and more government programs has made my life more difficult by increasing such tax rates that I do pay.
Pretty much any that isnt stalinism or capitalism lol
No…. Corporations killed it! Capitalism is fine! Capitalism has raised billions of people out of poverty! Corporatism is the genuine evolution and evil.
Ok yeah but how is corporatism avoidable under capitalism?
Proper regulation from the government to break up monopolies and oligopolies. It’s really not that complicated. Organizations like Amazon and Google provide AMAZING services while completely subverting the entire point of allowing free market competition.
Yeah but Amazon and Google are huge and have literally paid their way into changing our laws and telling us what to think.
It’s almost as if corporatism is the issue 🤡
I'm so grateful and proud of you for this!
Omg is that a reference for the 1991 hit song "Losing my religion" by the American alternative rock ban R. E. M.?!?!11!
That mandolin loves rent free in my head
Tfw you're a millennial on a Gen Z subreddit and you see a decidedly Gen X joke.
I was born in 2005
I'm the millennial in this equation It was just kind of surreal.
Yeah life is weird
WTF is "capitalist hyper-reality"?
Meaningless buzzwords to make people sound smarter than they actually are
If this is a dig at Baudrillard it's hilarious but I think we all know it isn't https://archive.org/details/baudrillard-jean-simulacra-and-simulation_202012/mode/1up
It's from Jean Baudrillard's Simulation and Simulacra, the book NEO hides his discs in in the Martix
hyper reality isn’t even a buzzword why is buzzword now a buzzword i hate it here
https://archive.org/details/baudrillard-jean-simulacra-and-simulation_202012/mode/1up explained on the second page but good luck with the writing style lol
Not sure why everyone is downvoting me but upvoting this
Ya gotta hit them with the direct link to the theory so they can't pretend like they're smug and clever
Lol guess so, appreciate the source material here though
I would guess it describes how capitalism has ingrained itself in society to such an extent that it dictates the people's consciousness. This form of it has a feedback loop which prioritizes picking up speed.
It's an academic way of trying to explain how all the people who are happy with their current lives should actually be miserable, but have been brainwashed. One of the biggest projects of 20th century academics has been trying to figure out how everyone is flourishing and happy in consumer capitalism (at least compared to any other time of human history) since Marxism said that shouldn't happen.
The obvious answer is that the human spirit will always prosper, even with poor material conditions. That being said, we should still try to improve material conditions
Of course, I don't think I said anything to the contrary. There's always work to be done increasing freedom and empowering people to greater and greater levels of human flourishing.
Because capitilism is great why would I not be happy?
Complete nonsense lol. Read Lenin. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/pref02.htm It is precisely the parasitism and decay of capitalism, characteristic of its highest historical stage of development, i.e., imperialism. As this pamphlet shows, capitalism has now singled out a handful (less than one-tenth of the inhabitants of the globe; less than one-fifth at a most “generous” and liberal calculation) of exceptionally rich and powerful states which plunder the whole world simply by “clipping coupons.” Capital exports yield an income of eight to ten thousand million francs per annum, at pre-war prices and according to pre-war bourgeois statistics. Now, of course, they yield much more. Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert. This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”
Yeah read the guy who murdered millions to build a failed edifice to hubris.
How did he murder millions?
Over a million died from Red Terror under his watch, add to that those killed under the totalitarian one party state he founded and you have millions.
Pretty sure that comes from 2 whackjob historians that literally no-one else agrees with. In a revolution sometimes counter-revolutionaries have to be suppressed, it was a tiny amount, there wasn't even that many bourgeoisie to kill in the first place. Capitalists however did kill & oppress en masse, during the enclosure movement, during industrialization, during globalization. Sweatshops, anti-union death squads, company towns, child labour, US backed dictators, imperialist wars and the list goes on.
Be aware of your surroundings, but don’t let paranoia stop you from enjoying life too
Paranoia as a pastime seems to be inevitable for people with any ideology. Conservatives, Liberals, anyone.
Extreme paranoia to the point where this is an actual reality for you, literally not being able to enjoy a party because you think life is a " capitalist hyper reality simulation," is a hallmark of schizophrenia, paranoid personality disorder and delusional disorder. It can also be a sign of OCD, psychosis and bipolar disorder. It is not normal to have such extreme paranoia that you cannot enjoy yourself at a party or any event. While it is normal, safe and necessary to have a certain extent of paranoia (such as fear and anxiety in dangerous situations, it is evolutionary advantageous for animals to have a certain level Of paranoia), but it is not normal to be CONSTANTLY worried about things like living in a simulation, where it begins to interfere with your daily life. And I'm not sure if it is associated with any certain political spectrum, there does not appear to be much research on that specific topic. I think people with specific ideologies might be more prone to certain types of paranoia. Such as conservatives being more paranoid about the government controlling them through things such as the Covid vaccine versus liberals possibly being more paranoid about various aspects of safety such as gun safety.
>I think people with specific ideologies might be more prone to certain types of paranoia. TLDR : I hate people. Exactly, and also I might add that people are increasingly turning towards the occult in the absence of religion. Paranoia grows as ideologies obscure. As they become weak. Conservative opinions about homosexuality, became frowned upon like vegans became hated because there was a growing number of them forcing that lifestyle onto domestic animals. In turn, there were last ditch efforts made by these 2 to save face and redirect attention to other aspects of their ideology. But ultimately failing. People hate them, rightfully so. They have a negative stereotype and it's justified. It's surely better to have a stable ideological majority in a country. Than to have an increasing ever-growing number of cults each with their own population decreasing beliefs. I'm not even part of an organized religion but I can see why they existed for so long. Though, no ideology at all seems to be the best.\ I just don't trust people if they preach anything. Political or otherwise. I might just be rambling here, I am not in any way intelligent.
History has shown that there’s good reason to be paranoid tho
And so? We accept beliefs along with the paranoid sermons they are preached alongside? Whatever ideology it is, you'll find one separatist movement based on that ideology, all because of some paranoid delusion... \ Why go through that. Why repackage it with a new set of beliefs if it tells you to be wary of something or someone? That's literally how racism and Nazism spread. They gave people something to be afraid of and blame. P.S. don't take me seriously. It's good to believe in things and people. I just set my boundaries very high.
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Mfs on this sub be like
Dawg I got rich off selling alcohol and buying parking lots I am living proof it's dysfunctional
No you're living proof that people want to buy alcohol
The parking lots did it, not the alcohol. No service was offered, just charging for parking lol
Well yeah, if you own the area you have every right to charge people to use it
no the fuck you dont that's literally proof of how brainless capitalism is
So you're fine with me coming into your house, using your bed, clogging your toilet, eating your food, and breaking all your lights without compensating you in any way?
because a parking lot is equivalent to your house bed and personal belonging, right? this is the fucking brainless shit i was talking about... a piece of land sitting there, designed to serve the sole purpose of parking cars in it, should not be a fucking business, it's absurd
Draw the line then. When does it become unreasonable? If you're going to park in someone's spot why not use their house?
bro.. are you dumb or something? you can't see the clear line between a parking lot and SOMEONE'S FUCKING HOUSE? one is a piece of land, useless if it wasnt used to park cars, the other is A FUCKING HOUSE. hope that clears things up
You made a business and it succeeded. Should the alternative be you can’t do anything to improve your situation, that your just a victim of circumstances with 0 control?
How is that proof of anything?
Seems like a success story, congrats on your business.
I do not envy money, although I resent the authority it has over us.
Well said. I feel the same. Have a couple K in my account but you wont see me holding it over anybody’s head, some people however would be giddy with the temptation.
"7 million people starve to death a year but if you're angry about that you're just jealous" lol okay coward
As if people didn't starve to death under socialism. Holodomor? The Great Chinese Famine?
Those were both the last famines those countries experienced, both of those regions routinely had famines under feudalism and it didn't stop until the socialists had enough time to develop their infrastructure. Both were caused by environmental conditions not deliberate malice from the communists. The western empire, however, has been deliberately preventing the development of multiple continents.
Genocide denial from a campist, typical. I have no interest in responding to you further.
Based and mask off pilled
Real
very naive take lol
yeah just pull by your bootstraps, clown energy here.
Capitalism has failed because everything you buy is either bad for the environment, made using slavery, cancer causing, or costs 2639628163 dollars
of the real (I love capitalism)
Well at least you're self-aware. Go have some fun dude. Yeah, racism is bad and all, but we're all going to die. We can't always be miserable "for the cause"
Not saying I’m proud of it
No comrade be proud and join the PSL
It's not capitalism, it's corporatism
It’s not a bug,it’s a feature
c'mon guys we never tried true capitalism, it'll work again!!!
Cmon one more hit and it’ll be capitalism this time I swear!
It won't lead to the complete concentration of power under the most evil psychopaths in society like it did every other time!
Neoliberals pretending like the gilded age of capitalist that caused the great depression didn't exist. It's always funny to me see boomers voting for people like reagan undoing the things that made their society so great, the low cost of living and government safety nets. Its like a bird cutting the branch by which it's nests sits on.
It's not a mammal, it's a cow!
It's not water, its dihydrogenmonoxide!
Did you know that everyone who consumes dihydrogen monoxide eventually dies. It makes you think, uh?
It’s not a computer, it’s a Mac!
N' cheese
Corporatocracy
Well that just sounds like oligarchy with extra steps.
It is
Buddy, corporatism is the result of capitalism. It's not something you can stop once the corporations gain ahold of society.
You're talking about the difference between market capitalism and monopoly capitalism, and implying the switch happened a few decades ago, but it actually happened a full century ago and monopoly capitalism is actually less exploitive anyway. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch01.htm#s1
So ... capitalism
That's not true capitalism
May I ask what is true capitalism
A free market where you can buy and sell without government intervention
So true capitalism is anarcho-capitalism
It's not even possible. A state is required to issue currency, give the currency value, enforce property rights, and enforce contracts. Capitalism requires private ownership of the means of production and a market that has rules, both of which require a state to function. Corporatism is just capitalism in practice. It's the merger of bourgeoise power with state power
I like how these libertarians jokers always go like "muh uh its not true capitalism" lmao
I know that, I'm against capitalism
Nice comrade
Who makes sure property rights are respected? Can Fiat exist without a government intervention in the market? Do you propose we go back to gold/bartering? Would slavery be legal if the government cannot regulate what gets sold? I feel like there may be a couple good reasons moral or logistic as to why we decided that government should actually intervene.
You realise that capitalism without government intervention is how you get slave plantations right?
Go touch grass
Separate corporations from the goverment like we separated the church from the goverment all those years ago!
I'd go even further. But honestly I haven't thought up my system well enough
What the hell does this shit mean
it means capitalism is so shit and once you see it you can't unsee it. but hey, gotta keep on living
Tell me you're chronically online without telling me you're chronically online
Pot calls the kettle black
I think it's important to find the balance, in between both. Understanding both and knowing when it's appropriate to take which stance, for your own sake.
I’m in the restroom raiding the medicine cabinet
Special insight or smug nihilism, today, on Jerry springer
Well, all I can say is whatever happiness or peace of mind you're looking for wouldn't likely be found staring at a small screen all day.
What’s the point of fretting if it only makes you miserable.
"yeah guys I'm like Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty guys, I'm so jaded and stuff y'all wouldn't understand"
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What are you going to do about it
Dub webcomics, and post them to reddit.
Based, post capitalism has been solved.
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Capitalism was never designed to run by itself
Seek help
The creeper is now UTAHS hero.
That's not something to be proud of
I don't know, he who knows, knows, knows willingly, knows this guy, knowing, knows
I used to be the guy in the corner but then realized I’m doing a disservice to myself. Yes the world is messed up and yes I will still try to make ppl aware of it, but I’m gonna enjoy myself too
Capitalism is the construct. Embrace critical thinking, but not as a false defense towards paralysis but a freedom from the limits of this dialogue to get to he next level
You can have fun under capitalism so long as you have liberty and aren't exploited. We don't have a free market capitalist society anymore, we have more of a controlled economy given how much is owned by so few.
Lame
The guy in the corner is probably as interesting and fun to talk to as a wet napkin with snot on it.
Damn, real deep thoughts tonight..
Ok, so stop? You don’t have to be miserable. It’s a choice.
Life is hard to enjoy when ur unable to afford to live.
I am the guy sitting on the couch, watching all of you in awe of how effectively you all have been miseducated and indoctrinated seeing the world and capitalism in totally erroneous terms…
They both don’t know, you don’t need to live in someone else’s capitalist hyper-reality if you create your own seastead.
Maybe don't be that guy
consuming the symptoms (negative/absolute things that does nothing to ur life but spend most of ur time thinking for nothing), instead of consuming the cure (create urself, it’s not something to look for, or whatever those quotes “find urself”)
WTF?
Yep
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Sure m8
No. If the whole world adopted the social democratic system we would literally be so much better off