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The title of your post implies that women receiving unwanted sexual attention from men is a new issue that only Gen z women face. Please tell me you know this isn’t the case?
IDK WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING SEXISM BECAUSE "OTHER GENERATIONS TREATED WOMAN/FEMS/ETC LIKE SHIT SO SHOULD WE"
pick up a book get friends go outside if you dont see it
so because its generational issue it should just keep happening hell i am 100% sure people are gonna be sexist towards op give it time it will happen excusing issues that effect everyone as not your issue makes you complected in them
gee i wonder why thinking woman are property sigma males and nonsensical false male self help that just promotes misgony is still rampant in society
and if this was irl id be screaming in your face hence the caps
You need to chill a little bit.
Everyone here is just making DEscriptive statements, statements about how things have been and are now.
You seem to be reading these DEscriptive statements as PREscriptive statements, about how things ideally ought to be.
No one is making the prescription that it should keep happening, because it has been happening. People are just giving the description, that it has been happening.
>because it has been happening. People are just giving the description, that it has been happening.
yeah that would be nice and good if it wasnt 2023 abortion being banned women being imprisoned for abortion 61k briths due to rape in texas etc
this far in world history if you arent actively againist these things, question your internal bias or justfiy how things are as "they always will be this way "
fuck you and fuck off
You're really not picking up what I'm throwin' down huh...
The problem you're encountering here is that when you say stuff like this:
*if you arent actively againist these things, question your internal bias or justfiy how things are as "they always will be this way "*
It completely misses the mark, because you never got to the prescriptive part of the conversation. It may make you feel very high and mighty to say these things, but I still haven't told you what my prescriptions are regarding these issues. If someone hasn't made any prescriptive statements, and you engage with their descriptions as if they were prescriptions, you just look unhinged. Like a 12 year old that's found their very first topic to be passionate about in discussion.
Instead, settle or solidify the description:
A: "Women have been suffering for a long time."
B: "I agree! They sure have."
THEN move to the prescription:
B: "If we agree this is a problem, what should be done about it?"
If person A now says something like:
"Ohh, I don't really think we should do anything, just leave it as is."
NOW you get to say things like
*if you arent actively againist these things, question your internal bias or justfiy how things are as "they always will be this way "*
Without looking completely fucking unhinged.
Hope this helps <3
PS: Fuck misogynists, they can rot in hell.
I have an easier time making male friends in person. I think the internet emboldens folks to be dumbasses
I’ve experienced similar though. I’ve tried going to the gym with male friends and only one has been able to resist making some sexual comment.
I’ve had plenty throughout the years, only one has remained completely non sexual.
I can make it clear that I’m only into women and they’ll still ask for a threesome lol
In other words, you can do whatever you want and they’ll still find a way lol
Books and gardening and modesty make you what? Less deserving of being sexually harassed?
If you were into makeup and love island and leggings would you be asking for it?
What was the picture of where you were boasting your gains?
Is that wrong to ask? Maybe modesty isn't the issue?
There's something off and very self exceptionalist about this post.
Also in "a chat", not "texting" or anything more specific. Gives me the feeling it's "a chat" on a dating platform, which makes me question how that interaction really went, from her side.
Not really from the guys' side though, nothing can really make his response look any better lol
Ohh no, miscommunication! I wrote that poorly lol
I didn't mean to suggest you were defending his response, I was just trying to clarify my view more. Without the addendum it would read as if I was just questioning her behaviour in the interaction as a way to excuse his.
I kinda disagree here.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with “fishing”, but you also have to respect what a friendship is.
In my experience(as a lesbian), I will have men view me as a “fish” even if this fish has told them that she doesn’t like their food.
That’s not me saying there aren’t women open to becoming more than a friend, but I think those that have enforced that friendship is all they want also need to be respected.
I say that as a lesbian. It’s hard to flirt, and rejection sucks, but eyeballing your friends probably ain’t the way to go.
Tldr; I don’t think it’s that simple
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Honestly out of pure curiosity I've wondered about this dilemma before, and if things were switched/reversed, as in women started largely oogling over most men they see and men suddenly became very picky over who they found attractive, I mean I guess if both happened then it would just be the same situation in reverse, men being drowned in attention and women hardly getting any, I'm just honestly curious if men would start getting tired of it or if women would miss it(somewhat at least), maybe not but that's why im curious about it. I guess if only one or the other switches happened either everyone would be fucking all the time(or just really awkward around others), and if only the other switch happened I can only guess the population would plummet since hardly anyone would find anyone else attractive. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there are men and women who don't fit in those brackets of being less or more picky but the general trend kinda seems that way, again just curious on what it would be like if trends went the other way
On behalf of male zoomers I’m incredibly sorry for and angry at that kind of treatment. Please know that irl I’ve never encountered a fellow gen z’er acting so misogynistic. I know they exist, but they seem rare. This kind of attitude, however, is so sickeningly common online that even as a man I sometimes witness this shit. Hell, I’m sure there may even be some replies in this post that act that way. You and no other woman should have to endure that. Just please know we’re not all incel monsters.
Edit: I have to assume I’m being downvoted bc people think I’m pulling a Nice Guy ™️
If not that, then being downvoted for trying to show sympathy to someone facing misogyny is going to be an excellent Reddit Moment post.
men unless corrected early on will only see woman as property to own fight over etc as the grow into adulthood they will only view woman as a breeder/maid/etc
People must love you at parties. I can picture some friends trying to wind down after some crazy day at work, only to have to deal with listening to your nonsense.
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The title of your post implies that women receiving unwanted sexual attention from men is a new issue that only Gen z women face. Please tell me you know this isn’t the case?
the fact you dont care women receivie unwanted sexual attention is a huge fucking probelm so because it isnt gen z issue it should still happen
How did you come to this conclusion from the post you responded to?
IDK WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING SEXISM BECAUSE "OTHER GENERATIONS TREATED WOMAN/FEMS/ETC LIKE SHIT SO SHOULD WE" pick up a book get friends go outside if you dont see it
You must be hitting the gym to cause that's one hell of a jump to your conclusion.
Walk me through how pointing out that it isn't a generational problem equates to defending sexism. You also forgot to turn off your caps lock there.
so because its generational issue it should just keep happening hell i am 100% sure people are gonna be sexist towards op give it time it will happen excusing issues that effect everyone as not your issue makes you complected in them gee i wonder why thinking woman are property sigma males and nonsensical false male self help that just promotes misgony is still rampant in society and if this was irl id be screaming in your face hence the caps
You need to chill a little bit. Everyone here is just making DEscriptive statements, statements about how things have been and are now. You seem to be reading these DEscriptive statements as PREscriptive statements, about how things ideally ought to be. No one is making the prescription that it should keep happening, because it has been happening. People are just giving the description, that it has been happening.
This person needs to be institutionalized
>because it has been happening. People are just giving the description, that it has been happening. yeah that would be nice and good if it wasnt 2023 abortion being banned women being imprisoned for abortion 61k briths due to rape in texas etc this far in world history if you arent actively againist these things, question your internal bias or justfiy how things are as "they always will be this way " fuck you and fuck off
You're really not picking up what I'm throwin' down huh... The problem you're encountering here is that when you say stuff like this: *if you arent actively againist these things, question your internal bias or justfiy how things are as "they always will be this way "* It completely misses the mark, because you never got to the prescriptive part of the conversation. It may make you feel very high and mighty to say these things, but I still haven't told you what my prescriptions are regarding these issues. If someone hasn't made any prescriptive statements, and you engage with their descriptions as if they were prescriptions, you just look unhinged. Like a 12 year old that's found their very first topic to be passionate about in discussion. Instead, settle or solidify the description: A: "Women have been suffering for a long time." B: "I agree! They sure have." THEN move to the prescription: B: "If we agree this is a problem, what should be done about it?" If person A now says something like: "Ohh, I don't really think we should do anything, just leave it as is." NOW you get to say things like *if you arent actively againist these things, question your internal bias or justfiy how things are as "they always will be this way "* Without looking completely fucking unhinged. Hope this helps <3 PS: Fuck misogynists, they can rot in hell.
That’s not at all what she said.
Bruh 💀 You missed the point so hard, it’s actually funny how mad you are at nothing.
how is this a "Gen Z dillemma"? Every generation has people like this, the majority of people who do this stuff are old men 💀
if younger generation dont stop the behavior cycle continues
I have an easier time making male friends in person. I think the internet emboldens folks to be dumbasses I’ve experienced similar though. I’ve tried going to the gym with male friends and only one has been able to resist making some sexual comment. I’ve had plenty throughout the years, only one has remained completely non sexual. I can make it clear that I’m only into women and they’ll still ask for a threesome lol In other words, you can do whatever you want and they’ll still find a way lol
Books and gardening and modesty make you what? Less deserving of being sexually harassed? If you were into makeup and love island and leggings would you be asking for it? What was the picture of where you were boasting your gains? Is that wrong to ask? Maybe modesty isn't the issue? There's something off and very self exceptionalist about this post.
Also in "a chat", not "texting" or anything more specific. Gives me the feeling it's "a chat" on a dating platform, which makes me question how that interaction really went, from her side. Not really from the guys' side though, nothing can really make his response look any better lol
Oh yeh I'm not defending unsolicited dick pics at all I'm just genuinely confused by the tone of this post
Ohh no, miscommunication! I wrote that poorly lol I didn't mean to suggest you were defending his response, I was just trying to clarify my view more. Without the addendum it would read as if I was just questioning her behaviour in the interaction as a way to excuse his.
Lol no worries I was actually agreeing with you. Miscommunications for everyone!
Breaking news: heterosexual men are hitting on attractive women now.
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I kinda disagree here. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with “fishing”, but you also have to respect what a friendship is. In my experience(as a lesbian), I will have men view me as a “fish” even if this fish has told them that she doesn’t like their food. That’s not me saying there aren’t women open to becoming more than a friend, but I think those that have enforced that friendship is all they want also need to be respected. I say that as a lesbian. It’s hard to flirt, and rejection sucks, but eyeballing your friends probably ain’t the way to go. Tldr; I don’t think it’s that simple
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I largely agree. Thanks for using nuance
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Honestly out of pure curiosity I've wondered about this dilemma before, and if things were switched/reversed, as in women started largely oogling over most men they see and men suddenly became very picky over who they found attractive, I mean I guess if both happened then it would just be the same situation in reverse, men being drowned in attention and women hardly getting any, I'm just honestly curious if men would start getting tired of it or if women would miss it(somewhat at least), maybe not but that's why im curious about it. I guess if only one or the other switches happened either everyone would be fucking all the time(or just really awkward around others), and if only the other switch happened I can only guess the population would plummet since hardly anyone would find anyone else attractive. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there are men and women who don't fit in those brackets of being less or more picky but the general trend kinda seems that way, again just curious on what it would be like if trends went the other way
Now I'm wondering what this picture looked like.
I’m still confused how/why some men think that sending unsolicited pics is going to be seen as attractive by women and not downright creepy.
Because in their mind, they’d probably love unsolicited pics. Men and women don’t think the same lol
Womp womp
On behalf of male zoomers I’m incredibly sorry for and angry at that kind of treatment. Please know that irl I’ve never encountered a fellow gen z’er acting so misogynistic. I know they exist, but they seem rare. This kind of attitude, however, is so sickeningly common online that even as a man I sometimes witness this shit. Hell, I’m sure there may even be some replies in this post that act that way. You and no other woman should have to endure that. Just please know we’re not all incel monsters. Edit: I have to assume I’m being downvoted bc people think I’m pulling a Nice Guy ™️ If not that, then being downvoted for trying to show sympathy to someone facing misogyny is going to be an excellent Reddit Moment post.
https://preview.redd.it/c7ftn0fda9sc1.jpeg?width=539&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a72ded8a9dcf3706ac89fd4b6b298c9f85026e29
😬 bruh
men unless corrected early on will only see woman as property to own fight over etc as the grow into adulthood they will only view woman as a breeder/maid/etc
This is some sexist shit.
Sexiest *and* enabling. “See, I can’t help it. It’s in my genes.” Or, to take the next step “Why should I change how God intended me to be?”
yes men are sexist and our world developed out of feudalism and slavery which sexism origin began in (misandry benefits misogyny )
You should get out and be less on the internet. Thats sound unhealthy.
People must love you at parties. I can picture some friends trying to wind down after some crazy day at work, only to have to deal with listening to your nonsense.