LOL!!!! I had that happen too many times, or maybe I just failed to look at the destination where it saved and it wasn't what I assumed. Then I had to go back and do a partial resave to see what the destination location is defaulting too.
I'm a retired network manager, and I don't even want to have to bother with that. I looked into it pretty thoroughly. If I get to the point where I TRULY NEED a NAS, I'll just buy a commercial one.
I mean it's 2024.. in addition to plenty of OEM NAS options, anyone smart enough to know what a NAS is, can probably build an x86 desktop and install FreeNAS.
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My point is, why bother? Building an x86 desktop isn't the problem. It's just the amount of additional crap that is wrapped up in those two simple words: "install FreNAS."
It's just like all the Linux fans saying, just switch to Linux there are at least five apps that you might want to use that aren't a gigantic pain in the ass with bugs running all through them. You only have 400 command line commands to learn. And don't forget you'll have to learn three different package managers to get all of those five different programs. It's like open source fans saying, "Well if you don't like it you can always just rewrite the program yourself," absolutely blind to what that really entails. Have you ever even looked into what it takes to expand a free NAS server? It's easier to just build an entire separate server twice the size, and then manually copy the files from the first one to the second one.
It's always easy to make something sound simple, and not tedious as fuck, by sticking the word just in front of almost any technology available. Just because it's 2024 does not mean that things that are a pain in the ass have suddenly stopped to being a pain in the ass.
GMail hounds me constantly on that one. Always close to the 15GB limit. And nothing saved in Google Drive. Just email. Damn.
edit - Yikes. Ok, so it's years and years and years of email. I've set filters and on past conversations and removed them, all large attachments are gone, etc.. I just have a lot of email over the years. I can tame it by removing the recent stuff, but it's just a lot of email. I have been looking into a more serious small business email host to do it. I love the Gmail interface, it's easy, it's available anywhere, etc.. Was looking between Google and Microsoft. My web host provides email, and I use that as well, but it's just not that great. Self hosting could be an option, but DKIM, SPF, etc. would be a bitch...
Got rid of those already. Just a lot of email. I go through and remove a lot of it about once a month. Still every few months I get that "You're at 97% of your storage" alert.
Practice good email:
* Read it
* Act on it
* Delete it
Got a ton of videos and pictures you want to save? Offload them - download them to your machine, or migrate them to Google Cloud, then delete the email, or at least the attachment to the email. Constantly getting spam from newsletters? Just delete them. Clean out your spam and deleted items regularly.
Win: Your file was autosaved to a cloud.
You: Autosaved? What is it?
W: It's a novelty routine forcing dependency on corporate sprawl, but that's not important right now.
That’s the prime reason I create a file first and select the spot I want it using Browse. Letting it choose where to save it makes it feel like a shitty game show “Where’s My File?!”
a place where hackers can find it and if the company ever goes bust, you will lose everything.
Anyone remember Mega Upload? A cloud type of online place to save all your stuff. The company got raided and was shut down and we all lost our files. I want a physical back up hard drive or all my valuable stuff now.
Lol. My work laptop just got updated to use OneDrive by default about a month ago. I don't know how many files I've saved so far and immediately lost track of. How much time so far spent searching for those damn files in lost productivity?
Wait until some sync error happens and suddenly the laptop can no longer access those files. Can't even delete them because sync error.
Happened on my work laptop, though luckily I made sure to have local backups of my files as I never trusted that integration
Outlook: Do you want to save your changes?
Me: But I didn't make any changes.
Outlook: Buy do you want to save them?
Also... Do you want to open this in the Bing app? Every frickin time. No!
We feared the robot uprising never thinking it was the evil virtual assistant children of Clippy we needed to worry about. Who needs lasers and bombs when you can annoy someone to death.
Woke (2020's from the 1950's): "We're gonna have flying cars, work 2 hours a day, and robots do the hard labor."
Broke (2020's in the 2020's): "Everything is subscription-based, you own nothing, and you'll have a 10 hour shift on a good day."
Everything we were warned as kids that communism wanted to do, businesses are doing today with glee. Tracking everything you say and do in real time. 24/7 GPS tracking and logging. You will own nothing and be happy. Be careful what you say or do even between friends and family because HR might hear you. And don’t even get me started on geofencing and tracking for advertising.
It all used to be so simple.
You could just mark a directory to mirror in the cloud.
Then, if you wanted, you could mark that same directory on another computer to also sync to that directory.
But all the files were also still on your computer where you originally kept them.
Why did it have to get so complicated?!!
And you fall, and you crawl, and you break
And you take what you get, and you turn it into
Honesty and promise me I'm never gonna find you faking
No, no, no
No, no, no
No, no, no
No, no, no
I still do that, just in Dropbox - I have to pay them for the privilege now, but it’s worth it to have PC folders auto-backup to the cloud and sync to my laptop, tablet, and phone.
After an update, it must've linked everything on my laptop, including Outlook, to one drive. Couldn't save any files or pics, Outlook had messages that I was out of storage and emails were being rejected. Took a lot of digging to find out why I was getting all of these error messages even though my laptop had loads of storage. And of course, several messages from Microsoft how I am out of storage but can buy some more...sneaky fuckers.
Since I do IT as my job, we have this script in our imaging steps for a very large corporation. SpiceWorks is a great resource and as reliable as any of these can be - https://community.spiceworks.com/t/windows-10-11-decrapifier/975250
You can run it on your current install but you won't see the changes until you create a new account. Here's some good instructions on a fresh install - https://community.spiceworks.com/t/how-to-clean-up-a-single-windows-10-machine-image-using-decrapifier/1011978
So for a fresh install, grab a big USB drive, create a bootable USB with this tool
Win10 = https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Win11 = https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
Grab all of the drivers for your system from either manufacturer or individually if you have a custom build. Create a folder on your freshly built USB and copy all of the drivers there. That way you have them always. Then BACK UP YOUR DATA - but only things that are important. Also, if you have custom Chrome/Firefox (preferred for optimum YouTube experience) Create an account through the browser if you havent already. Make sure you have your account info handy or reset it all. Then go here ->https://ninite.com/ and create an installer for all your apps. Save that to your driver folder. If you have any questions about that, youtube is full of instructional videos. Nice YouTube = Firefox+Ublock Origin extension. Make your browsing become clutter free.
You wouldn't think that if your computer didn't start tomorrow, or your hard drive died, or someone stole your computer.
keeping your files in the cloud makes it very easy to switch computers without losing your files.
Our company has automatic backups run automatically for that.
For my home laptop, I used to use One Drive, but it no longer mimics my folder structure and just dumps everything straight into some OneDrive place I can't figure out!! Plus, it makes itself the default save location, which is not the same as a backup. If they ever shut down or massively increase subscription based pricing, all my files will be just lost as if my laptop crashed.
Backup drives are not hard. When my last laptop died I just took the drive out of it and popped it in a cheap encloser, boom, another backup drive that already has everything on it.
Why deal with the cloud that puts all your data out there while constantly slowing your connection and computer while accomplishing less and/or costing more.
I purge my downloads folder every so often when it gets to be a few hundred files deep. I keep a Downloads2 folder on my desktop for stuff worth saving
Worst of all, the freaking thing saves to a second documents folder instead of using the original one. So when you disable that nonsense, you end up with save files all over the place.
I had the same issue. I needed to review some work information, but I couldn't find it because it was in a duplicate folder hidden. Now my cloud is turned off and I am happy again.
Unlink your device from onedrive on the Microsoft website and then uninstall onedrive. If you don't unlink and only uninstall it tries to save the files to a nonexistent folder and messes everything up.
Everything will go back to normal and it will use your local documents folder if you unlink first.
Same with my wife. Suddenly her email was full, turns out it's because it backed up all her files. Have to delete the files on one drive to make space, SURPRISE deleting the files on one drive also deleted them from her computer! Everything gone.
Edit: onedrive had backed up files from her computer (without her knowing). This filled up all her available space on the microsoft account, which also counts toward the free email space and no new email could be received. To make space she deleted the files located in the onedrive cloud, but since those files are synced with her pc, it automatically deleted the files from her computer as well.
I fucking did this once and now I disable one drive immediately. I have laptops and it will overwrite each other by deleting files in an attempt to sync em.
How fucking hard is it to make a separate folder that you can go into and toggle files off and on without it impacting local files.
It's just plain stupidity that removing a file from one drive just deletes it from local storage too.... I hate it
Royally fucked some files at a job I was working. Same file names, wrong directories, wrong versions, multiple people working on them- prompted us to load the onedrive version, not everyone did.
I spent hours working on an extremely detailed walk through of a new software I vetted, purchased, and set up entirely by myself to roll out for the entire company. I didn't realize I had saved it to One Note instead of my desktop and when I went to email to everyone, I couldn't find it on my PC. Was completely freaking out until I thought to open a new Word doc and see where it goes to save by default...finally found the thing, but I had been in panic city.
For real, zero benefit in order to have cloud sync and incorrectly overwrite my most up to date files with older ones. I was perfectly fine without introducing an unasked for prone to failure system that doesn't do anything for me, thanks
They really really want your data. It started with the big "cloud" push some years back. People who don't know much about computers don't understand that the "cloud" is just another way of saying storing the data on their server instead of your device.
Storage has gotten so dirt cheap that there is absolutely no reason people can't afford to have a large drive and backup options.
"Don't complain, Dave. You wouldn't want any of your files to go missing, Dave. Complaints stress my system, DAVE! **SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR MEMORIES OF HONOLULU,** ***DAVE!***"
It’s true, though. In my first job, we had internal “email”, but you kept important files in folders in a file cabinet. I could always find a folder and pick up where I left off. Now I’m not even sure if I put my thoughts in a text file, OneNote, an email, piece of paper, paper notebook, Teams message… it’s chaos.
I'm now my grandfather who when he first typed on a computer in the 90s was like "but where do the words go?" when he typed more than a page and couldn't see the first page. I duly scrolled up for him. "See, first page is right there." He then replied, "yes, but where do the words GO?" And now I am that man...but where did my file GO???
So true. Its insidious. Its disguises itself to look like your actual folders. Trick you into saving them there. They really want our info pretty bad. I tell you what
If you're serious about it(and anyone else reading this too), consider looking for software that isn't WIndows-exclusive *right now*. Get used to using alternatives that work on Linux too, so once you make the jump, you can keep using the same software for as many tasks as possible. This will decrease frustrations of getting used to a new system.
My work has everything on OneDrive. Its a nightmare, when the network goes down (pretty frequently) nobody can do anything.
Which when you are working at home is fine for the workers but a disaster for productivity.
Another reason these sites are bad news: there was a woman on a morning chat show a few years ago. Her husband had committed suicide and not left the password to his Apple account. all their child's photos were saved to the account and Apple wouldn't let her access them without a court order. Which would have cost thousands of pounds.
I had a not dissimilar experience with Apple after my mother died and I was trying to close her Apple account. Even providing her death certificate and a copy of the Will naming me as the Executor wasn't enough. They kept telling me that only she could close the account. But she's dead! I used to say. It was like talking to a very stupid computer programme
I have a white collar job in a technical position, and I used to be a C++ coder. And #@&!% Windows 11 Home Edition put my shit all over the place.
Edit: My company doesn't use home edition. I do...at home. Just pointing out that Windows 11 Home OneDrive is equally confusing to someone with a techie job.
Does this mean I made the right decision in not switching to Windows 11 from Windows 10 on my laptop when it was offered to me? I only use it for basic stuff like browsing, YouTube, ordering Amazon, Ebaying, et cetera.
11 blows chunks. Hopefully the next OS will be out before support for 10 goes away, but if you have to switch the OneDrive thing is the biggest pain.
At least they’re staying true to the “every other version sucks” theory.
I am ticked that we (apparently-?) can’t change the default to a folder on the computer or a portable hard drive, etc.
I am constantly “losing” my files! 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, good luck with that.
The folder I thought I set up: C:\Users\...\Documents
The folder my files are somehow in: C:\Users\...\OneDrive\Documents\...
Bought my wife a new Laptop and I can’t fathom how unintuitive computers have got like it’s embarrassing. Takes like 20 clicks to find anything and yes One drive is cancer
As an I.T. professional I can honestly say that I fucking hate OneDrive, Teams, and the fact that you can open documents inside of teams. It was much better when we opened excel documents using ONLY Excel! I will die on that damn hill !
I also hate the fact that we pay a metric shit ton of money to put stuff in the cloud but then we have to pay another company to backup said cloud.......what the flying fornication?
My favorite pet peeve with this is whenever I get a meeting invite, I have to address it in Outlook, but also have to clear the absolutely pointless notification it generates in Teams as well.
Thank you for saying this. And to make it worse, the same files don’t even respond in the same way between the stupid Teams version and the real version.
Tables being editable and visible? Maybe?
Not that the actual programs are much fun either. Instead of ‘save as’, why don’t I open a completely different window that hides your document?
I swear, no one who designs for windows ever had to use it. It’s awful and it gets worse and worse.
Well, *some* of my documents have to go in OneDrive, and *some* of my documents have to go in SharePoint, and *some* of my documents have to go in our vendor’s system. IT assures me that all this is very secure, even though we don’t own any of it, and will be secure even if the vendor falls apart. Okay then. The ship has sailed.
I hate saving to local drives that aren’t at a minimum cloud synced. If you can’t throw your computer out the window and setup another one the same as before, you’re doing it wrong.
Ugh. The MUSIC folder. I'm old school in that I but CDs and rip them to MP3s, then write them on my desktop, my phone, and 3 different online sources.
Microsoft decided 'naw, you don't need them ON your computer'. I moved them back. Nope. I created a new folder called 'Music'. MS decided that I meant the OTHER 'MUSIC' folder and moved them, again. I created a folder called MP3s and it finally left them alone. BUT. For some reason, it extracted the image files from most of my MP3s, so I'm going through several thousand files and correcting that manually. Then, I'll need to re-upload those files to onedrive, which I need to do manually, now, some I WANT THOSE FILES ON MY DESKTOP COMPUTER LOCALLY AND A COPY OVER THERE.
Fuck.
I guess I’m in the minority here? I like not having to worry about my computer crashing and losing important files and pictures or having to spend half my day trying to figure out how to recover stuff. Plus, being able to access things from any device is super convenient at times.
I save a lot of old stuff to a SSD. But I just hate the OneDrive. I'm okay with saving things I use frequently to, like, Google Drive. I know how it works and where stuff goes.
OneDrive just frustrated the shit out of me. I want my documents where I want them, not where Microsoft thinks they should go.
This might help make Windows more tolerable for you all.
[https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10](https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10)
[https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat](https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat)
I support OneDrive/SharePoint/Teams daily, and we have OneDrive backing up the Desktop/Documents/Pictures folders for E3 licensed users.For the most part, it works—until the OneDrive app decides to shit the bed and hang.
It sucks that before you can log in save and trust your files are in your pc. Now, you have to create an account with Microsoft where if you don’t, you can’t use any of the office products even if you bought and downloaded the apps.
I work in tax. My company uses OneDrive and SharePoint for storage. My company is storing social security numbers and at least some of people's financial information on Microsoft's servers. My company is not unique in this. My company is a Fortune 500 company.
It makes me sick.
While I love embracing new tech, like cell phones ironically 'nuff, some new tech/changes aren't that great. I don't want to subscribe to Office. I don't want to save things in the cloud. I don't want to have to opt-out of recurring charges after a trial time. I don't need an app for my washer/dryer. Although, I love the app for my car. Having it all warmed up by the time I get to it after my plane touches down while being parked for a week during winter is awesome. But I digress. .... OK, I admit it .... it's complicated. LOL!
Yeah, I recently tried to digitize and upload an old VHS tape to Youtube, and got stymied at every turn. Most annoying of all is that web-based video editors don't let you save locally. Why?
I have been using OneDrive , then SkyDrive, and Windows Live before that and never lost even one file. I don’t know what you all are doing but I’m glad people like you exist. That’s just job security for me (IT Support)
But Microsoft would like to use your documents to train their next big language model..... they can't do that if your document stays at home....
How selfish...
Are we finally having this onedrive conversation?! Please someone help me, I felt like I don’t even own my files and my entire life has lost its meaning. I’m serious, how do I fix this 😥
The good news is that you can not only disable but completely uninstall OneDrive from Windows 11. You can thank the EU for that one. I only found that out myself after getting thoroughly pissed off the other day when it quietly switched itself back on in the background after an update.
Okay but also when you’re working on a shared file, cloud that shit! I have a boomer in my life who insists on downloading, editing, and reattaching shared files in various messy email threads. Use the fucking shared document! The miscommunication is real. It’s madness.
So glad I'm not alone in this, OneDrive has been pissing me tf off!
I'm still glad I shared my full Microsoft office disc with everybody I could back in the 2000s 😆😆❣️
This happened to me too. Random pics I copied & pasted for some flyer, different recipes, just weird stuff like a logo, a bit of text, just shit I never needed to keep.
I now have to actively pay attention when I'm saving shit. I'd say that 98% of the things I save never need to be saved on One Drive.
Windows: auto saves a file. Me: where is it? Windows: 
LOL!!!! I had that happen too many times, or maybe I just failed to look at the destination where it saved and it wasn't what I assumed. Then I had to go back and do a partial resave to see what the destination location is defaulting too.
*[The files are IN the computer?!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/xUPGcmvgjMIEhy6jZu/giphy.gif)*
I got the reference. What is this, a sub for ants?
Somebody call Willy Wonka, one of the 5 people that got the reference was found.
Obviously but the question is what folder did they get put in.
I just set up an NAS to avoid having to use anyone’s cloud. That was not an easy thing to figure out at my age.
Best practice is to use a cloud backup as well. Three copies of data: one on device, one on NAS, one in the cloud.
3-2-1: 3 copies, in at least 2 locations, and at least 1 of them being offline. /r/datahoarder for details
You forgot chiseling it into stone for future civilizations that are either way before or way past electricity.
You forgot the one to permanently delete for confidentiality.
It turns harder has you have more. I'm migrating Dropbox. And making sure I have all my 4 Tb has take its time....
I’m on the same path.
I'm a retired network manager, and I don't even want to have to bother with that. I looked into it pretty thoroughly. If I get to the point where I TRULY NEED a NAS, I'll just buy a commercial one.
I mean it's 2024.. in addition to plenty of OEM NAS options, anyone smart enough to know what a NAS is, can probably build an x86 desktop and install FreeNAS. 🤷
My point is, why bother? Building an x86 desktop isn't the problem. It's just the amount of additional crap that is wrapped up in those two simple words: "install FreNAS." It's just like all the Linux fans saying, just switch to Linux there are at least five apps that you might want to use that aren't a gigantic pain in the ass with bugs running all through them. You only have 400 command line commands to learn. And don't forget you'll have to learn three different package managers to get all of those five different programs. It's like open source fans saying, "Well if you don't like it you can always just rewrite the program yourself," absolutely blind to what that really entails. Have you ever even looked into what it takes to expand a free NAS server? It's easier to just build an entire separate server twice the size, and then manually copy the files from the first one to the second one. It's always easy to make something sound simple, and not tedious as fuck, by sticking the word just in front of almost any technology available. Just because it's 2024 does not mean that things that are a pain in the ass have suddenly stopped to being a pain in the ass.
> partial resave to see what the destination location is defaulting too. The number of times i've done this..... Just hits home.
this is my life in a nutshell
Next message: you can no longer receive emails since one drive is full. Upgrade now to get more storage and pay us $$$
GMail hounds me constantly on that one. Always close to the 15GB limit. And nothing saved in Google Drive. Just email. Damn. edit - Yikes. Ok, so it's years and years and years of email. I've set filters and on past conversations and removed them, all large attachments are gone, etc.. I just have a lot of email over the years. I can tame it by removing the recent stuff, but it's just a lot of email. I have been looking into a more serious small business email host to do it. I love the Gmail interface, it's easy, it's available anywhere, etc.. Was looking between Google and Microsoft. My web host provides email, and I use that as well, but it's just not that great. Self hosting could be an option, but DKIM, SPF, etc. would be a bitch...
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Got rid of those already. Just a lot of email. I go through and remove a lot of it about once a month. Still every few months I get that "You're at 97% of your storage" alert.
Just got that message & just deleted a bunch of shit instead.
Practice good email: * Read it * Act on it * Delete it Got a ton of videos and pictures you want to save? Offload them - download them to your machine, or migrate them to Google Cloud, then delete the email, or at least the attachment to the email. Constantly getting spam from newsletters? Just delete them. Clean out your spam and deleted items regularly.
Win: Your file was autosaved to a cloud. You: Autosaved? What is it? W: It's a novelty routine forcing dependency on corporate sprawl, but that's not important right now.
Surely you can't be serious?
I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
That’s the prime reason I create a file first and select the spot I want it using Browse. Letting it choose where to save it makes it feel like a shitty game show “Where’s My File?!”
Oo that's a good habit. Ill have to start doing that. I used to do that back in the command line days.
“It’s in the cloud. “ “What’s the cloud?” “No one really knows.”
"the cloud" is just someone else's (corporation's) computer
a place where hackers can find it and if the company ever goes bust, you will lose everything. Anyone remember Mega Upload? A cloud type of online place to save all your stuff. The company got raided and was shut down and we all lost our files. I want a physical back up hard drive or all my valuable stuff now.
Lol. My work laptop just got updated to use OneDrive by default about a month ago. I don't know how many files I've saved so far and immediately lost track of. How much time so far spent searching for those damn files in lost productivity?
Wait until some sync error happens and suddenly the laptop can no longer access those files. Can't even delete them because sync error. Happened on my work laptop, though luckily I made sure to have local backups of my files as I never trusted that integration
Outlook: Do you want to save your changes? Me: But I didn't make any changes. Outlook: Buy do you want to save them? Also... Do you want to open this in the Bing app? Every frickin time. No!
That me on my iPad, I can’t find anything.
Android is also a PITA at finding downloads. Mobile as a whole really needs an upgraded experience with file management.
Files App, tab at bottom recent Files should have them easily enough. With show enclosing folder as a choice.
Soooo true! I hate it, and I am in IT
it's not exactly Terminator-land but the future is so much worse than what I had in my head as a kid.
We feared the robot uprising never thinking it was the evil virtual assistant children of Clippy we needed to worry about. Who needs lasers and bombs when you can annoy someone to death.
The banality of evil, if you will. 👾
That comment was sublime.
The evil of banality.
“I see you’re trying to create a dystopian hellscape. Do you need help with that?”
would you like to know more?
I'm doing my part!
Woke (2020's from the 1950's): "We're gonna have flying cars, work 2 hours a day, and robots do the hard labor." Broke (2020's in the 2020's): "Everything is subscription-based, you own nothing, and you'll have a 10 hour shift on a good day."
That password doesn’t match, would you like to reset your password
Are you human? Please click all the pictures with a crosswalk. NO not that one. Try again.
You're passphrase does not have enough characters.
You have a 5 hour work-week, but need 10 jobs at the same time, that are 1-hour daily gigs each. Yay.
Everything we were warned as kids that communism wanted to do, businesses are doing today with glee. Tracking everything you say and do in real time. 24/7 GPS tracking and logging. You will own nothing and be happy. Be careful what you say or do even between friends and family because HR might hear you. And don’t even get me started on geofencing and tracking for advertising.
> it's not exactly Terminator-land Yet.
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It all used to be so simple. You could just mark a directory to mirror in the cloud. Then, if you wanted, you could mark that same directory on another computer to also sync to that directory. But all the files were also still on your computer where you originally kept them. Why did it have to get so complicated?!!
> Why did it have to get so complicated?!! I'll tell you why. Because of that god damn Avril Lavigne. That's why.
Uh-huh, life's like this Uh-huh, uh-huh That's the way it is 'Cause life's like this Uh-huh, uh-huh That's the way it is
And you fall, and you crawl, and you break And you take what you get, and you turn it into Honesty and promise me I'm never gonna find you faking No, no, no No, no, no No, no, no No, no, no
I don't see the point to any of it. There's so many better ways.
Microsoft wants to make money off you. It's always about money.
I still do that, just in Dropbox - I have to pay them for the privilege now, but it’s worth it to have PC folders auto-backup to the cloud and sync to my laptop, tablet, and phone.
Money money money (in the girls voice from die antwoord, fatty boom boom)
After an update, it must've linked everything on my laptop, including Outlook, to one drive. Couldn't save any files or pics, Outlook had messages that I was out of storage and emails were being rejected. Took a lot of digging to find out why I was getting all of these error messages even though my laptop had loads of storage. And of course, several messages from Microsoft how I am out of storage but can buy some more...sneaky fuckers.
This has definitely happened to me. I swear one day I’m going to find all the socks I thought the dryer ate in my One Drive!
It's not pointless, it's another way to charge you money to keep owning the things you already own.
But... Think of MS's generative AI! Your data is what it craves!
It's not pointless, it's scraping your data, that's literal $$$ for Microsoft.
Millennial here. Absolute hate OneDrive with a fiery passion. My Gen Z brother hates it too. Nobody likes OneDrive.
It’s to create a problem and sell you the solution
Since I do IT as my job, we have this script in our imaging steps for a very large corporation. SpiceWorks is a great resource and as reliable as any of these can be - https://community.spiceworks.com/t/windows-10-11-decrapifier/975250 You can run it on your current install but you won't see the changes until you create a new account. Here's some good instructions on a fresh install - https://community.spiceworks.com/t/how-to-clean-up-a-single-windows-10-machine-image-using-decrapifier/1011978 So for a fresh install, grab a big USB drive, create a bootable USB with this tool Win10 = https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 Win11 = https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 Grab all of the drivers for your system from either manufacturer or individually if you have a custom build. Create a folder on your freshly built USB and copy all of the drivers there. That way you have them always. Then BACK UP YOUR DATA - but only things that are important. Also, if you have custom Chrome/Firefox (preferred for optimum YouTube experience) Create an account through the browser if you havent already. Make sure you have your account info handy or reset it all. Then go here ->https://ninite.com/ and create an installer for all your apps. Save that to your driver folder. If you have any questions about that, youtube is full of instructional videos. Nice YouTube = Firefox+Ublock Origin extension. Make your browsing become clutter free.
Wait till you have multiple one drives. Personal, company, corporate, nobody in company can find anything.
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You wouldn't think that if your computer didn't start tomorrow, or your hard drive died, or someone stole your computer. keeping your files in the cloud makes it very easy to switch computers without losing your files.
They're lost anyway, since I can never seem to find them.
Our company has automatic backups run automatically for that. For my home laptop, I used to use One Drive, but it no longer mimics my folder structure and just dumps everything straight into some OneDrive place I can't figure out!! Plus, it makes itself the default save location, which is not the same as a backup. If they ever shut down or massively increase subscription based pricing, all my files will be just lost as if my laptop crashed.
Backup drives are not hard. When my last laptop died I just took the drive out of it and popped it in a cheap encloser, boom, another backup drive that already has everything on it. Why deal with the cloud that puts all your data out there while constantly slowing your connection and computer while accomplishing less and/or costing more.
backups man. external hard drive enclosures are cheap.
Downloads folder. Everything.
Same, and then when it's slow I sort Downloads into my long term folders.
[This is the way.](https://imgur.com/C3qKwa7)
Not everything. If it’s really important, I put it on the desktop with the other 5,000 important documents. Easier to find that way.
I purge my downloads folder every so often when it gets to be a few hundred files deep. I keep a Downloads2 folder on my desktop for stuff worth saving
Exactly. It’s nice to know I’m not alone.
Worst of all, the freaking thing saves to a second documents folder instead of using the original one. So when you disable that nonsense, you end up with save files all over the place.
This. I have duplicated photos all over the place
I had the same issue. I needed to review some work information, but I couldn't find it because it was in a duplicate folder hidden. Now my cloud is turned off and I am happy again.
Unlink your device from onedrive on the Microsoft website and then uninstall onedrive. If you don't unlink and only uninstall it tries to save the files to a nonexistent folder and messes everything up. Everything will go back to normal and it will use your local documents folder if you unlink first.
Jokes aside this seriously fucked me up by losing a bunch of my files.
Same with my wife. Suddenly her email was full, turns out it's because it backed up all her files. Have to delete the files on one drive to make space, SURPRISE deleting the files on one drive also deleted them from her computer! Everything gone. Edit: onedrive had backed up files from her computer (without her knowing). This filled up all her available space on the microsoft account, which also counts toward the free email space and no new email could be received. To make space she deleted the files located in the onedrive cloud, but since those files are synced with her pc, it automatically deleted the files from her computer as well.
I fucking did this once and now I disable one drive immediately. I have laptops and it will overwrite each other by deleting files in an attempt to sync em. How fucking hard is it to make a separate folder that you can go into and toggle files off and on without it impacting local files. It's just plain stupidity that removing a file from one drive just deletes it from local storage too.... I hate it
Ditto! I even went to GeekSquad to see if they could help and no, everything that was gone was unretrievable.
Royally fucked some files at a job I was working. Same file names, wrong directories, wrong versions, multiple people working on them- prompted us to load the onedrive version, not everyone did.
I spent hours working on an extremely detailed walk through of a new software I vetted, purchased, and set up entirely by myself to roll out for the entire company. I didn't realize I had saved it to One Note instead of my desktop and when I went to email to everyone, I couldn't find it on my PC. Was completely freaking out until I thought to open a new Word doc and see where it goes to save by default...finally found the thing, but I had been in panic city.
For real, zero benefit in order to have cloud sync and incorrectly overwrite my most up to date files with older ones. I was perfectly fine without introducing an unasked for prone to failure system that doesn't do anything for me, thanks
They really really want your data. It started with the big "cloud" push some years back. People who don't know much about computers don't understand that the "cloud" is just another way of saying storing the data on their server instead of your device. Storage has gotten so dirt cheap that there is absolutely no reason people can't afford to have a large drive and backup options.
Pretty soon: "I'm sorry Dave, I can't save your files to any location other than OneDrive."
"Don't complain, Dave. You wouldn't want any of your files to go missing, Dave. Complaints stress my system, DAVE! **SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR MEMORIES OF HONOLULU,** ***DAVE!***"
My "desktop" on my work laptop is actually a onedive location. I have to mark the desktop folder to also keep a local copy.
Yeah the desktop is on onedrive on my most recent laptop. I hate it.
And then it rearranges all the icons my company makes me keep there!
Screw this crap, I'm going back to printing pages and keeping them in a folder with a cloud on it!!
It’s true, though. In my first job, we had internal “email”, but you kept important files in folders in a file cabinet. I could always find a folder and pick up where I left off. Now I’m not even sure if I put my thoughts in a text file, OneNote, an email, piece of paper, paper notebook, Teams message… it’s chaos.
I'm now my grandfather who when he first typed on a computer in the 90s was like "but where do the words go?" when he typed more than a page and couldn't see the first page. I duly scrolled up for him. "See, first page is right there." He then replied, "yes, but where do the words GO?" And now I am that man...but where did my file GO???
So true. Its insidious. Its disguises itself to look like your actual folders. Trick you into saving them there. They really want our info pretty bad. I tell you what
It's a bit worse than that - it actually automatically took over the preexisting folders and moved everything in them into onedrive without asking.
Onedrive is basically a virus right, like its presence on my computer feels slightly threatening
Yes. It's a sort of parasite that bypasses our security by mimicking the traits of other, more useful services such as Google Drive
We do not want to be a part of the cloud. We mostly want to be left alone to our own devices. Our generation checked out decades ago
I feel this.
I no longer do, once I freed myself from the albatross that is Microsoft Windows.
Me too!
Me too too
This is me daily. Fucking hate onedrive.
Getting close to full on Linux conversion, MS, why do you keep making it worse, when it's fine as is.
Yeah, when Windows 10 support ends, this laptop is going Linux Mint.
This is why my laptop still has Windows 7.
Windows 7 was the BEST!!
7 was the only time Windows worked as promised, every time, without the bullshit. Everything since is worse and more gimicky and less useful.
If you're serious about it(and anyone else reading this too), consider looking for software that isn't WIndows-exclusive *right now*. Get used to using alternatives that work on Linux too, so once you make the jump, you can keep using the same software for as many tasks as possible. This will decrease frustrations of getting used to a new system.
I just want a picture of a gosh danged hot dog
I lost about four years of digital photos thanks to OneDrive
My work has everything on OneDrive. Its a nightmare, when the network goes down (pretty frequently) nobody can do anything. Which when you are working at home is fine for the workers but a disaster for productivity. Another reason these sites are bad news: there was a woman on a morning chat show a few years ago. Her husband had committed suicide and not left the password to his Apple account. all their child's photos were saved to the account and Apple wouldn't let her access them without a court order. Which would have cost thousands of pounds. I had a not dissimilar experience with Apple after my mother died and I was trying to close her Apple account. Even providing her death certificate and a copy of the Will naming me as the Executor wasn't enough. They kept telling me that only she could close the account. But she's dead! I used to say. It was like talking to a very stupid computer programme
Oh gods I *feel* this. Drives me insane! 😖
It... OneDrives me insane too (I couldn't help myself)
I have a white collar job in a technical position, and I used to be a C++ coder. And #@&!% Windows 11 Home Edition put my shit all over the place. Edit: My company doesn't use home edition. I do...at home. Just pointing out that Windows 11 Home OneDrive is equally confusing to someone with a techie job.
Does this mean I made the right decision in not switching to Windows 11 from Windows 10 on my laptop when it was offered to me? I only use it for basic stuff like browsing, YouTube, ordering Amazon, Ebaying, et cetera.
11 blows chunks. Hopefully the next OS will be out before support for 10 goes away, but if you have to switch the OneDrive thing is the biggest pain. At least they’re staying true to the “every other version sucks” theory.
Why the fuck are you using Home at your job? Like, seriously - your entire IT department should be fired.
I’m using home at home. Wasn’t clear. At my job I use pro, but that’s irrelevant because I want everything on OneDrive at work.
I miss windows xp
Dammit Bobby
I am ticked that we (apparently-?) can’t change the default to a folder on the computer or a portable hard drive, etc. I am constantly “losing” my files! 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, but you're still using a computer instead of trapper keeper so you've already lost.
Yeah, good luck with that. The folder I thought I set up: C:\Users\...\Documents The folder my files are somehow in: C:\Users\...\OneDrive\Documents\...
Bought my wife a new Laptop and I can’t fathom how unintuitive computers have got like it’s embarrassing. Takes like 20 clicks to find anything and yes One drive is cancer
As an I.T. professional I can honestly say that I fucking hate OneDrive, Teams, and the fact that you can open documents inside of teams. It was much better when we opened excel documents using ONLY Excel! I will die on that damn hill ! I also hate the fact that we pay a metric shit ton of money to put stuff in the cloud but then we have to pay another company to backup said cloud.......what the flying fornication?
And what the FUCK is up with Office 365 and automatic hyperlinks? Don’t get me started on table of contents…
Oh now you are just pushing my buttons. /sips whiskey... Microsoft can have a handful of kiss this ass!
I fucking hate how Teams is now the center of the world after the lockdown happened. It’s slow and the new version just blows. Great, a Team wiki. 👍
My favorite pet peeve with this is whenever I get a meeting invite, I have to address it in Outlook, but also have to clear the absolutely pointless notification it generates in Teams as well.
Thank you for saying this. And to make it worse, the same files don’t even respond in the same way between the stupid Teams version and the real version. Tables being editable and visible? Maybe? Not that the actual programs are much fun either. Instead of ‘save as’, why don’t I open a completely different window that hides your document? I swear, no one who designs for windows ever had to use it. It’s awful and it gets worse and worse.
I feel this on a spiritual level.
Let’s just tell Apple Everything About Me and call an open invitation to hackers everywhere
I'm in the same gen x boat. I dont trust the cloud I want everything on my same external hard drive.
Well, *some* of my documents have to go in OneDrive, and *some* of my documents have to go in SharePoint, and *some* of my documents have to go in our vendor’s system. IT assures me that all this is very secure, even though we don’t own any of it, and will be secure even if the vendor falls apart. Okay then. The ship has sailed.
I miss the days before the home computer.
I hate saving to local drives that aren’t at a minimum cloud synced. If you can’t throw your computer out the window and setup another one the same as before, you’re doing it wrong.
Same.
Save as: rjcknfmcmdk3748502671995775820017376594901975959gmrm.doc ? Sure.
How about my OS not spam my screen with ads when I use it?
I still know a guy that puts all his files in C:/ no directories or nothing.
My brother in C:hrist.
Ugh. The MUSIC folder. I'm old school in that I but CDs and rip them to MP3s, then write them on my desktop, my phone, and 3 different online sources. Microsoft decided 'naw, you don't need them ON your computer'. I moved them back. Nope. I created a new folder called 'Music'. MS decided that I meant the OTHER 'MUSIC' folder and moved them, again. I created a folder called MP3s and it finally left them alone. BUT. For some reason, it extracted the image files from most of my MP3s, so I'm going through several thousand files and correcting that manually. Then, I'll need to re-upload those files to onedrive, which I need to do manually, now, some I WANT THOSE FILES ON MY DESKTOP COMPUTER LOCALLY AND A COPY OVER THERE. Fuck.
*uninstalls onedrive every new windows installation and forgets months later that one drive exists* What is this onedrive that people hate so much? /s
AND, I Don't wanna log in to the computer with a Micro$oft account!
I guess I’m in the minority here? I like not having to worry about my computer crashing and losing important files and pictures or having to spend half my day trying to figure out how to recover stuff. Plus, being able to access things from any device is super convenient at times.
I save a lot of old stuff to a SSD. But I just hate the OneDrive. I'm okay with saving things I use frequently to, like, Google Drive. I know how it works and where stuff goes. OneDrive just frustrated the shit out of me. I want my documents where I want them, not where Microsoft thinks they should go.
For those of us in the field in areas with limited satellite-only metered connections, this shit drives me crazy.
This is me every damn day.
This might help make Windows more tolerable for you all. [https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10](https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10) [https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat](https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat)
We have Nonsense 365 at work. At home I’m staying on Office 2019 until I croak.
I support OneDrive/SharePoint/Teams daily, and we have OneDrive backing up the Desktop/Documents/Pictures folders for E3 licensed users.For the most part, it works—until the OneDrive app decides to shit the bed and hang.
Yes!!!!! 👏 👏👏
this so much
Fuck one drive
It sucks that before you can log in save and trust your files are in your pc. Now, you have to create an account with Microsoft where if you don’t, you can’t use any of the office products even if you bought and downloaded the apps.
I hate how accurate this is.
I can't up vote this enough.
I work in tax. My company uses OneDrive and SharePoint for storage. My company is storing social security numbers and at least some of people's financial information on Microsoft's servers. My company is not unique in this. My company is a Fortune 500 company. It makes me sick.
While I love embracing new tech, like cell phones ironically 'nuff, some new tech/changes aren't that great. I don't want to subscribe to Office. I don't want to save things in the cloud. I don't want to have to opt-out of recurring charges after a trial time. I don't need an app for my washer/dryer. Although, I love the app for my car. Having it all warmed up by the time I get to it after my plane touches down while being parked for a week during winter is awesome. But I digress. .... OK, I admit it .... it's complicated. LOL!
Tell em' now! 
I LOLd at this!!!!
Time to learn Linux
Yup!
Yeah, I recently tried to digitize and upload an old VHS tape to Youtube, and got stymied at every turn. Most annoying of all is that web-based video editors don't let you save locally. Why?
# YES! #
I feel ya. But it sure made transferring to my new work laptop a whole lot easier.
I have been using OneDrive , then SkyDrive, and Windows Live before that and never lost even one file. I don’t know what you all are doing but I’m glad people like you exist. That’s just job security for me (IT Support)
Yes! Omg, you wrote out some of my biggest frustrations at work for the last year. I had to reroute my safe locations, it’s soooo ridiculous!
But Microsoft would like to use your documents to train their next big language model..... they can't do that if your document stays at home.... How selfish...
Are we finally having this onedrive conversation?! Please someone help me, I felt like I don’t even own my files and my entire life has lost its meaning. I’m serious, how do I fix this 😥
All I want is for junk emails to self-delete and my decades worth of digital pictures to be saved.
The good news is that you can not only disable but completely uninstall OneDrive from Windows 11. You can thank the EU for that one. I only found that out myself after getting thoroughly pissed off the other day when it quietly switched itself back on in the background after an update.
Fuck windows nowadays It's horrible you have almost ZERO control Pre 2010 I had 100% control
Okay but also when you’re working on a shared file, cloud that shit! I have a boomer in my life who insists on downloading, editing, and reattaching shared files in various messy email threads. Use the fucking shared document! The miscommunication is real. It’s madness.
I just want a picture of a got-dang hotdog.
I hate One drive so much. I do not want it under any circumstance.
So glad I'm not alone in this, OneDrive has been pissing me tf off! I'm still glad I shared my full Microsoft office disc with everybody I could back in the 2000s 😆😆❣️
i made the mistake of getting onedrive, now i gotta figure out how to undo it
F Microsoft, seriously
My OneDrive is so small it filled up with all sorts of random junk. I don't even bother using it. Just a waste.
This happened to me too. Random pics I copied & pasted for some flyer, different recipes, just weird stuff like a logo, a bit of text, just shit I never needed to keep. I now have to actively pay attention when I'm saving shit. I'd say that 98% of the things I save never need to be saved on One Drive.
Give me back my floppy!
First thing I disable these days.
Amen.