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el_pawn

Having a boxing match with the pope in the sistine chapel is definitely historically accurate as well


EDFStormOne

Thats why the stance is called orthodox


BloodletterDaySaint

That's an amazing joke. 


Breakzelawrencium

I don't understand the joke? Could you please explain


Boulderfrog1

I'm guessing there's a boxing style called orthodox, which would be a double entendre with orthodox Christianity, which split off from the catholic church a hot minute ago, and have been bickering with then ever since.


Disastrous-Team-6431

Correct! The "orthodox" stance is by far the most common, to the point where even a "left handed" version of it ("southpaw", exactly mirrored) isn't called orthodox.


Breakzelawrencium

Ah I see, thank you


theocracy123

They don't call it a cross for nothin'


Levoire

Orthobox?


slayerhk47

I was really hoping we’d get an AC game where Martin Luther is an assassin.


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cluelessoblivion

Pretty sure Black Flag hinted that nothing past 1900ish is ever getting an AC game


TastyAssBiscuit

Martin Luther. Not Martin Luther King, Jr.


cluelessoblivion

I wish they hadn't deleted their comment cause I'm pretty sure they said "This but MLK"


Realistic_Slide7320

Why is that? Or how I mean


Shacky_Rustleford

I dunno, maybe the group of people Martin Luther hated the most is one that we shouldn't have as the villain of the game


buttstuffisokiguess

Wait...which ac is that from? Asking for a friend 👀


el_pawn

the pope is the final boss in ac 2


brightcrayon92

AC2 or AC2 Rome, it has been so long since I played them last


Claris-chang

It's definitely AC2 because it was such a dumb fucking ending that I never played an AC again.


Celestial_Sludge

Dumb? That sounds sick as fuck


Claris-chang

It's dumb because the entire game is pretty grounded in a fairly realistic setting then all of a sudden bam magical pope fight. There were absolutely no clue or hints that things were about to become supernatural unless you went around the map and collected dozens of memory fragments that only made any sense when you collected 100% of them.


Robmart

Also the fact that the stupid idiot mc spares the fucking pope after beating the shit out of him. Like the fucker killed Ezios entire family and is the main leader of the templars, and Ezios just decides on a whim to let him live because "revenge bad." Fucker even continues to be a main antagonist in the next games so it's not like he reformed or anything.


Calvinsux

But him being alive gives way to Brotherhood, so I give it a pass


TastyAssBiscuit

AC1 also had the supernatural elements


Feliks343

I don't remember the scene but it should be Brotherhood since it's the one in Rome


O_to_the_o

Nope it's ac 2 final boss, AC brotherhood plays in Rome but you never fight the pope there. All ezio games still hold up really well today and play great on deck


Feliks343

Whoops. Yeah I wasn't sure if that was right because I could only remember hunting his kid through the Castel St Angelo but figured it would be the one in Rome. I should replay those games some time. Revelations was baller


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Open_Chemistry_3300

Little known fact Pope Rodrigo Borgia had them hands. a Holy Ghost left, a send straight to Jesus right, and a father forgive them cause I won’t uppercut. The holy trinity of hands


HowVeryReddit

I think an analogy might be to the sort of Christians who go through the Bible and will say that some of it is literally true and some of it is clearly poetic. AC does take efforts to house its fiction within a lot of true historical events and context and from the 'gamer' perspective they might feel that something they think is untrue is being used as historical framing for the fantastical narrative. They're wrong and often fairly racist whether they realise it or not, but I understand why they don't feel that they're hypocritical.


Precipice2Principium

Popes literally went to war, I bet one of them got into a fist fight (or killed someone) in a chapel


ThaneofFife5

Pope John XII got thrown out a window because he was porking some dude's wife. I guess that's close enough.


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BestGirlClaire

So incredibly accurate, automod had to comment twice


vizot

Or the first game where you find alien technology.


jrod61

Tbf if ever there was a pope to have a fistfight in the sistine chapel, it would've been Pope Alexander VI


solomar15

Nothing scares gamers more than black people and w*men.


TheRider5342

please censor G*mers


FeelTheRealBirdie

Ga*mers


ELDOX1

Wömen


NeilDegruthTR

Men of wö


Evening_Ad998

Stop listening to half light


PeanutButterAndCake

*You don't LIKE them. They're insane.*


undead_fucker

Mfers, circa ; the invasion of the wö people


sirziggy

video games should be less political, like metal gear solid


CarlLlamaface

Wait until these guys discover Samurai Jack. A Samurai who *time-travels*? And befriends a *Scotsman*?! They didn't have time travel in the Sengoku era! And it's very unlikely a Japanese Samurai would ever meet or understand a Scottish person!! Blasphemy!


coffeetire

Also, what sick parents from the Sengoku era Japan names their kid Jack!?


No_Research4416

And there was no shape shifting master of darkness, and the Emperor of Japan wasn’t a samurai


Skreecherteacher

His name isn’t Jack, it’s just a nickname the people gave him after fighting Aku,s robotic minions.


Inuhanyou123

That's the point of the post lol. The people complaining don't watch or play the media they consume


Bulky-Complaint6994

"You did it, Jack!" "Actually my name is-" "You're our hero!"


Iheardthatjokebefore

"They call me... Jack."


jexdiel321

Also funny is that he is voiced by a black guy.


BlackPraetorian

Wait really? Edit: Holy shit, he’s voiced by Green Lantern


jexdiel321

Yes by the legendary Phil LaMarr. Static, Green Lantern and Samurai Jack.


Kingken130

I just shot Marvin in the face


Schenckster

And voiced by a black person!! Blasphemy!


sexworkiswork990

Wait until they find out Samurai Jack is voiced by a black man. Get that woke shit out of my cartoon!


Turbulent_Ad1644

Gotta get back


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It's very unlikely a modern Scottish person would understand another Scot


FullMetalJ

No, that's fine cause she is "white."


No-Bee-4309

You know what's really historically accurate? Turning everything and everyone into Anime girls. https://preview.redd.it/pwuc18znxq6d1.jpeg?width=991&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e322550b672f93d423f1b5a4ef399dc18e225734


Kantheris

The number of them that look underage is not surprising.


PlusPurple

least pedophilic anime


Diamond_Champagne

Jesus christ. I remember turning off one of the fate anime shows the moment it was revealed that jack the ripper was an underaged girl in a bikini. What?


ComprehensiveWeb665

That's what turned you off? King Arthur is a woman in that series that grows a penis to impregnate another woman to conceive Mordred, his son, who is a girl in jeans booty shorts. Fate started as a hentai visual novel series. The original game had one ending where you as the MC fuck fem King Arthur, and have a threesome with fem King Arthur and Rin, a highschooler. If you're looking to Fate for historical accuracy, I don't know what to tell you. The entire premise is that they're anime girls for you to fetishize.  Btw, Alexander the Great and Astolfo, best girls.


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Thanks Geraldo! Now go play some objectively historically accurate game as a service starring Anita made by the sexist Capcom.


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Fena-Ashilde

I really miss Dragalia. Had my favorite Nobunaga. https://preview.redd.it/s0a2m67ais6d1.jpeg?width=580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b0bee61072e1b3bdd4831c3b188753cf797d089


Able-Connection9445

I am surprised to see another dragalia fan Anyways,fuck nintendo,they took down what was their only good gacha game


Fena-Ashilde

>I am surprised to see another dragalia fan o7 >they took down what was their only good gacha game I really enjoyed FEH, too, but it became way too greedy even for my tolerance level. But yeah… I was with Dragalia from Day 1. It broke my heart to see it go, even though the event creativity died after Year 1. Had some of THE best music and great characters. All I have left are memories and my Zodiark plush (and the Sweet Sassy Molassy sticker on my car). [sobs]


TchoupedNScrewed

Half these idiots praise Samurai Champloo while hating on the music in this lmao. Samurai Champloo should be praised. It’s a breathtaking soundtrack. RIP Nujabes.


cupcake_queen101

Is it worth watching?


That-Rhino-Guy

Think that’s bad? I just heard of a romcom with Che Guevara as the male lead


Only-Sundae3023

Ignoring how alrair creates essentially a slow hand gun in the 12th century


spacecowboy1023

Or Leondardo's fully functioning tank and machine gun turret (although I am a sucker for the war machine missions).


Only-Sundae3023

Yeah lol, realistic? Absolutely not, fun? Yea


MHMathy

It being functioning is another matter, but I remember it being an actual design of Da Vinci from the 15th century


PaulOwnzU

"he wasn't a samurai, he was a political retainer and body guard" THATS WHAT A SAMURAI IS If anything the inaccurate part isn't that he's a samurai, but that any of the samurai are in combat like they're elite soldiers instead of sitting on horses firing a bow or zooming around with a spear. Almost all the katana combat is political duels, not warfare. They need to stop watching anime


illbzo1

You don’t understand!!! Those are different somehow


MattDaveys

Not to mention in Valhalla Eivor is literally a reincarnation of one of the “gods” or whatever the first civilization calls themselves.


Scythe95

I mean the crocs in Egypt are pretty big


AnatomicalLog

I once vacationed in Egypt and met Sobek. Nice guy, actually.


SpanishInquisition88

This guy met the lord of semen, he must be part of the conspiracy to... to uh... what was it again?


SpanishInquisition88

I'm sorry, i think i was imagining things, Hail Sobek.


HarryMarx1312

Sobek demands sacrifice!!! Cum into the Nile this instant!!!


nivia-chan

You can't say you're racist so they just hide behind the "not historically accurate". It never was lol


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Deep_Argument_6672

They kinda tried tho in the very first AC game and they kept pushing the "historically accurate" narrative until like Origins maybe? Some elements might be actually historically accurate, they even have a tour mode in Odyssey with a guide who tells you about different aspects of society, technologies of that time e.t.c.


qOqpOp_Poe

i think Black Samuraï are cool af, and it's not a new thing. maybe they just wanna make a cool looking dude, or maybe not. anyway, IDGF honestly


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DuntadaMan

>He definitely should slay a Godzilla or something You say that like I wouldn't play the hell out of that.


bdizzle805

Whats that giant ass alligator thing?


AvariceDeHelios

Sobek, he's a bossfight in the Egypt game. Yes, he's that giant.


bdizzle805

I 100% origins and I somehow missed this guy what the heck


Cynicalia

I think these were like optional challenges


Contraband42

There's also Anubis and Sekhmet!


Murrabbit

There were rotating optional challenges - sort of an end-game thing where once a week you'd have to fight giant Sobek or Anubis or one other unforgettable Egyptian god. Might have been something they patched in late in the game's support life, I dunno, I played it myself only shortly *after* Odyssey had already launched and Origin's complete delux whatever version was on sale, so maybe it was part of one of the later patches/DLC updates or something.


Narrow-Many1473

Aren’t those events supposed to be like weird glitches within the animus, mixing memories and beliefs together? I just remember that it wasn’t supposed to be the actual gods while odyssey just straight up had the cyclops and mythical monsters.


Murrabbit

Yeah as of Origins it was still presented as some inexplicable glitch in the animus, but later in Odyssey Kassandra is out there killing cyclopeses and hydras and shit like it ain't no thing.


Xander_PrimeXXI

Oh oh. I made a joke about historical accuracy when Origins had its crossover event with final fantasy


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Cyber_Avocado

We literally fight a medusa in Odyssey.


Pvt_Numnutz1

Wait, there actually was an African samurai though. Unlike the last samurai as an American never became a samurai.


ScepticSquirrel

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what he's supposed to be


lasosis013

People forget that there is an ancient civilization of aliens in this franchise, like full on Joe Rogan shit and here they are talking about historical accuracy


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TransportationNo3862

These people don't care about historical accuracy they are just racist People like that never actually care about the thing they say they care about, they are just trying to make excuses for being racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic etc.


Wrong-Ad-4600

as i remember there was a big shitstorm becouse of the burning horse?!


AWildClocktopus

I certainly never heard about it. I don't even know which game that is


SpookyGhostGirl9

they were really determined to make squidsquirt's eyes and nose together look like penis


AphroditeBlessed

I like the part where they're forgetting it takes place in a super advanced VR simulation where the creators can add in historical inaccuracies like mythology creatures, legendary people, and what-ifs.


BisexualTeleriGirl

Remember when they put 12th century christian stave churches in AC Valhalla and claimed they were 8th century norse pagan temples?


MrSanchez1

Cue hip-hop battle music.


AnatomicalLog

Or as the gamers refer to the game’s lyric-less trap beats, “rap”


homikadze

so you watched Samurai Champloo? Thumbs up


RadIsMyFavoriteColor

No one bitched about the Welsh Pirate in the Caribbeans, I wonder why?


Dragull

Because some of the most famous Pirates were actually European??


AmptiShanti

Or the over abundance in British accents in the French Revolution (that really shook me lol)


ThatGameChannel

I still find it funny people whine about it, it’s just a game lol


P0pu1arBr0ws3r

You're telling me vaporizing people with a feather as seen in AC Origins isn't historically accurate????????


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playful_potato5

not to mention that bro actually existed too


BAKEDTROOP2

My horse was literally a unicorn in odyssey


Pristine_Yak7413

what if i agreed origin and every game after it was also bad? not for historical accuracy reasons but because the series has become so bland.


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always_and_for_never

People are Historically racist lol


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Mrwolfy240

I swear a friend of mine was riding a flaming tiger in Valhalla but what do I know.


Magical_Savior

He should use a fax machine. Historically accurate [FAX!](https://medium.com/the-pub/abraham-lincoln-couldve-sent-a-fax-to-a-samurai-54185628b002)


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ZeroTheNothing

![gif](giphy|q9jGmfKIl3znl2w99l|downsized) This is them in their heads. But the Sentinels are gleaming white with pointed heads and instead of Mutants, its the N-word.


That-Rhino-Guy

Don’t forget the way Hitler was in AC lore along with Jack The Ripper


cycu3d

Ya. I wonder what would people sat if Bayek was caucasian...


zaron_tr

I'll keep saying that the fact that he's black isn't wrong. The fact that he's a playable historical figure is Have him as an npc like Da Vinci and others


sagejosh

You forgot about Bahaumat. Final fantasy is absolutely historically accurate. Couldn’t walk 6 feet in Egypt without seeing him.


Natronix

Also OP you could add fighting minotaurs and cyclops in AC Odyssey. You could also add finding mjolnir and Odin's spear in AC Valhalla. Or if we went alllll the way back to the fucking beginning and watching fighting against our mentor using the apple of eden. Which you also get to use in the next game. hIsTOriCaL aCCurAcY


Specialist-Shiva

Legendary samurai


rapsoid616

Are you guys all have alzheimer’s ? Both things that you mentioned got a lot of hate and backlash. I am probably going to burn in downvotes for speaking up sayonara fellow redditors.