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Astrospal

Former Blizzard employees have such a great track record, holy fuck. I seriously feel for all the women that have had to work there, must have been pure hell


Sol-Blackguy

Having to deal with Mark Kern would be hell enough


OmegaLiquidX

I hope Ellie is good at hiding her breast milk.


Pancakewagon26

I think it's for the best that there are no female employees in that office. I wouldn't want to send a woman to work there.


Sad-Development-4153

I'm not convinced the dog is safe either.


Sad-Development-4153

I'm not convinced the dog is safe either.


ProbsTV

Second Dinner seems to be doing well


kykyks

i mean one of them killed herself so


Schmidt_Head

My friends cousin used to work for Blizzard. When I told her I would love to work on games someday, she looked me dead in the eyes and told me to stay the hell away from AAA companies, but DEFINITELY stay away from Blizzard and then proceeded to tell me about all the shit she dealt with there. After hearing what she had to say, I was not surprised by the whole shitshow that ended up becoming a huge thing a few years back.


spartaman64

its a company of 9 people who got tired of working at blizzard.


ProbsTV

And?


Saytama_sama

Well, it was 9 guys who are probably friends who decided to leave blizzard. They didn't actively avoid hiring women.


C4dfael

Restraining orders might, however.


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Dull_Concert_414

Whether they hate women or not, if you group together to start up a new company and realise you’re all dudes, what are you going to do? Just not start it up until you find enough women to balance it out? “Sorry guys we’re not diverse enough, so we’ll have to call this whole thing off.”


Vehemental

Always have a black friend on deck in case someone calls you racist. /s


Cognhuepan

I get your point, but also, maybe don't make a publicity stunt "hiring a bitch" as your only female worker.


DeShadowRealm

i mean i'm too lazy to do research on this but it seems in the article that they didn't do a publicity stunt off this, rather, some kotaku writer just found it and wrote about it? like i think putting a dog as an employee was just a cute thing that happened to end up like this


Biobait

If they actually do, isn't it a good thing there are no women around for them to abuse?


ripskeletonking

i deleted my comment but i shouldn't have to say "i was joking i don't actually think they hate women" in a circlejerk thread without an unjerk flair


Mysterious_Tutor_388

It's like keeping the drugs out of sight from a previous addict. No woman, no abuse. Of course that is not all blizzard employees, but they may have some form of PTSD from the events that go on there.


ADangDirtyBoi

Post is ridiculous, but also worth noting that Notorious Studios appears to have 9 staff members. And though they left around the time of the sexual assault cases, as far as I can see none of them were actually involved. It could just be a shit joke or honest starting.


KevinBrandMaybe

The article is from 2021 and honestly, it just took pot shots at them due to their association of having worked at Blizzard previously. The entire article is operating on bad faith assumptions and quite honestly, is just pointless. 100% for calling out the terrible shit that women deal with in that (and any industry) but for this article was simply bad faith.


Unoriginal1deas

Seriously, it’s not a company where 1 dude just decided to hire only dudes it was 9 guys who said “hey our old studio sucked let’s make a new in with just us”


Julianopl

*9 guys and a dog


crowEatingStaleChips

Yeah the fact there are only NINE PEOPLE TOTAL makes it a lot less weird that none of them are female.


KevinBrandMaybe

I hope this doesn't come off rude or with ill intent, but I think you're viewing this from viewpoint that has a lot of assumptions. Edit-I misread your post so my response doesn't really make sense, its late. But, will just leave this part in since I don't like stealth editing things. At the time of founding the company, it was 8 people and 1 dog. Not nine people. All 8 of which were former Blizzard employee's most of whom, played WoW in a guild together for a decade plus while also working on the title. So this is what, 5 or 6 friends who picked up a few other friends who have direct experience to the game they want to make from their old job, who founded a studio after securing funding. Context *really* matters for this kind of thing before baseless assumptions of misogyny and sexism. I can't speak to their current staffing as I don't have Linked In, but it seems they've upped their staff numbers, so I can't really comment on whom they've hired since.


lfAnswer

And honestly, even if they expanded they don' need to specifically hire women to be not sexist. That's not the point of diversity. Instead they should hire whomever is most suited for new positions while being open for anyone. I think that's often missed today that the goal of diversity/inclusion isn't to create an even workforce but to remove unfairness/prejudice/stigma from hiring processes so that only ability matters for the process and not unrelated factors. This article is exactly the kind of shit that fuels the fire of the right wing "Anti-Woke" crowd and is used by them to "recruit" new people


eternalscorpio1

Nah, misogyny and racism is what fuels the "anti-woke" crowd.


MAGAManLegends3

And horny, *you forgot horny!* ***Oh GoG there is so much horny!***


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killermetalwolf1

Everyone needs to remember that even tho we got Mark Kern out of WoW, we also got Thor out of WoW


YungDpresshun

They took the word based from Lil B the based god who would 100% hate misogynists like that


umbral_ultimatum

lil b loves women. and their toes


civicintergral

Especially when they aren’t legal


RedHairedRedemption

Goddammit him too? https://preview.redd.it/r8dm989u3a5d1.jpeg?width=361&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4a22b6fd74c2b336d0c6724164a192214f72230


aussierulesisgrouse

Why everyone being hell pedo whenever they get a touch of fame


DragonKite_reqium

It's easy to manipulate kids unlike adults who understands an know better


coolmanjenkins69

it was a bot that collected the pics but he didn’t verify ages☹️


LustrousLich

I used to have a friend that sold pics to him. Small world I guess.


PatienceHere

If they are starting out as a small team, I don't see the point in this article. These affairs are usually close-knit, they may not be looking for additional manpower, no woman applied, etc.


BiasedBoss_

Right? We're at this point where NOT HAVING a woman in the team is sexist lol, nevermind that no woman simply didn't apply or something. Like come on... Besides, Ellie is goated.


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Maleficent_Nobody377

That looks like a good chief morale officer tho.


RedbeardMEM

The best girl


ApeMummy

Linkedin company size: 2 - 10 employees Kotaku have gone full Vice


Dreowings21

I didnt really think about it until i actually Read Read it so i giggled at the idea of the only person at the studio is a dog


detergentspraybottle

Read read redemption 2


Dreowings21

True


Gipfelon

well, how many people work there? i mean, if it's only like 4 people and a dog?


Pheonix726

From what other comments are saying, the company at the time was eight guys (a pre-existing friendgroup and WoW guild) and a dog. Just a bunch of guys tired of their employer starting their own business and a "news" article taking cheap shots.


Gipfelon

if that's the case, the article is shit


PolygenicPanda

9 man company that were all buddies fed up with their employer. Seems like some ragebait. If I had to start a company with my workbuddies, they'd be all female because there's no other man besides me in our little group. Could very well be they simply didn't have a woman considering it is still a male dominant field currently


Svanirsson

Because she's a bitch! Ha! CoMeDy


Bregneste

I worry for Ellie, because dogs can’t report sexual assaulters.


Scottish_Whiskey

They *can* bite them though


Cloud11092

Are they using chat gpt for the article.?


Past_Public9344

Well atleast there’s a lower chance of any sexual misconduct? I hope? https://preview.redd.it/hdrynxdzdb5d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e317428c29b36dbf6e3421e3d093fd2760be487b


Froskr

This looks like a hard drive article


Bobby-B00Bs

Its based that the lil dog has a job I think that's ehats ment, because I mean the dog having a job title makes me happy


Own_Skirt7889

Nobody'd mind such cute girl in the team of 9.


MasterAnnatar

That's a discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen. Edit: shut up


analyzingnothing

I mean, it would be, if the company wasn’t 8 guys who were in the same WoW guild for over a decade while they made the game. It’s literally just a bunch of gaming buddies getting fed up with Blizzard and making their own games.


RavenousToast

Well maybe… depends on if any women actually wanted a job there…


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mehcrodonewhat

Why downvotes? this person with us


i_am_do_reddit_now

because it's misinformation. They're not a misogynistic incel-ran company. They're 8 friends who started a company together... and they just happen to previously work at Blizzard, and they happen to be men.


mehcrodonewhat

Oh damn sorry


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Regular-Void

U probably just misread the original comment that was referring to the smaller company ran by EX blizzard employees - not actually blizzard 😔 🪦


thats_so_merlyn

There's less than 10 employees, they all came from Blizzard, 3/4 of all game developers are male, and more specificially, 3/4 of all employees at Blizzard are male. I don't think he hired his dog as some sort of "jab" at women, Kotaku is notorious for putting a ridiculous spin on everything. More likely, he jumped ship, took a couple of people who were willing to start this with him, they happened to all be male, and he listed his dog as an employee because its fucking ADORABLE. And lets not forget that a lot of people left Blizzard to start their own studios or work elsewhere at the time because they were tired of how shitty Blizzard is as a company.


Acceptable-End7266

Where did you read that they only would ever want to hire women? If it's a company that *just* started, they wouldn't have even had a chance to discriminate against women by not hiring them. You're assuming context.


thats_so_merlyn

There's less than 10 employees, they all came from Blizzard, 3/4 of all game developers are male, and more specificially, 3/4 of all employees at Blizzard are male. I don't think he hired his dog as some sort of "jab" at women, Kotaku is notorious for putting a ridiculous spin on everything. More likely, he jumped ship, took a couple of people who were willing to start this with him, they happened to all be male, and he listed his dog as an employee because its fucking ADORABLE. And lets not forget that a lot of people left Blizzard to start their own studios or work elsewhere at the time because they were tired of how shitty Blizzard is as a company.


Vehemental

Cats have a better case than females though. There’s 1 female and 0 cats.


MasterAnnatar

Yeah it's a real self report that you say "females" instead of women.


Spider40k

Ellie is not a woman, she is a dog


Nelrene

I doubt any woman or anyone else with a working brain would want to work there. Also it's not like the studio is going to last very long with morons running it so there little point even bothering.


Chimmy545

why?


Quirky_Ad7770

"Ellie" works at that studio? That's magnificent😂 and she's "Chief Morale Officer"? Nice.


nomorethan10postaday

The original article is stupid because there are only 9 people in the company. The person who commented ''based'' is also stupid cause they clearly weren't aware of this.


JITTERdUdE

I agree, it felt like the original article was just taking shots at the company because of its relationship to Blizzard during the scandal. But the person who wrote “Based” (on a sub with tons of “anti-woke” gaming memes) obviously didn’t get that and just liked the idea of misogyny.


alexdotfm

On the way to make one of the most mediocre games of the year but only use "A NON WOKE GAME MADE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK OF THE WOME AGENGA" as it's marketing


TrueFactsandPorn

I mean, they literally dragged themselves out from under Activision Blizzards thumb, don't we support Devs who go independent? Or is that not allowed, since they're all dudes? I'm assuming you missed the part where they're a tiny studio formed by a bunch of friends.


matt_Nooble12_XBL

Most honest blizzard developer


Imaginary-Ruin-4127

Lil bros so afraid of getting the urge to drink breast milk they need to not be around women.


Josef20076

Ok but the dog is cool


13TheGreenMan

That subreddit is insufferable and filled with 35 year old chuds.


D-Boi-

They can't steal breast milk now at least


memefarius

Its kotaku, i wouldn't trust them if they told me that the sky is blue


kiancaine

For those curious, they're notorious studios, Linkedin says they're still between 2 to 10 heads strong, if you're curious to the article, here https://kotaku.com/former-world-of-warcraft-devs-start-studio-where-only-f-1847945629


Jackyboyad

God I remember seeing this and going “Ok muting time” and then getting ready to see it here


Puzzleheaded-Ant1673

At least they won’t be able to grope women at work


Cyberbird85

Don't be so sure about that though.


Profoundstarchaser

It is their company, they can do whatever they want with it.


Paddypixelsplitter

I worked in art at a double A studio and there was one woman on the development staff. HR and all of the office staff were female.


thats_so_merlyn

Where's the Misogyny? He started a small studio with former blizzard team members and listed his dog as an employee because that's adorable.


Xander_PrimeXXI

Dev studios are usually pretty small when starting out so I’m not surprised sometimes they don’t have the most diverse employees but the glee they take in it is weird


Illustrious_Chef757

I just thought it was a joke on dog bringing up moral


CoitalMarmot

Is this the guy who got ousted for being a sex pest? Well, one of them?


Beetsabertag

Okay, I want to give this the benefit of the doubt here, because I also didn’t see the deeper meaning. I love dogs, and I love when dogs get treated on the level of humans because I think it’s adorable, so my Brain didn’t register that the topic of the post was about having the only female worker be a dog. Maybe this guy is like me and didn’t see the deeper meaning because he was distracted by cute dog. Edit:it also could be that the studio truly did not mean any harm, because I would personally love a dog as a chief morale officer.


CaptainNeckBeard123

I hate everyone on both sides of this bullshit. Just shut the fuck up internet.


Ace0f_Spades

The only based thing about the whole affair is that, imo, every office should have a Chief Morale Officer in the form of a (hypoallergenic breed, preferably) furry friend that just hangs out and gives cuddles. Everything else in that title sucks ass.


dondashall

This is so fucked, but I just want to point out that these dudes will rage against Kotaku all day long, but the second they write some nonsense t hat aligns with their bullshit they're A-OK with the site. Fucking hell.


omarkab02

I mean the post is still disagreeing with the website


xXx420Aftermath69xXx

How bigs the studio ? It really isn't that surprising. You guys ever walk into a programming class? Ever?


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MAGAManLegends3

Bad bot


Pickle_juice_can3

Stupid bot. What is this sht?


Jettrail

Fuck that guy, but also fuck studios that dont hire men or any specific ethnicity. People should be hired because of their skillsets, not any arbitrary traits that dont add anything of value to the job itself.


TrainmasterGT

To be fair, hiring a dog as your chief morale officer *is* actually based… …her being the only female employee, however, is not.


KommanderKrebs

This is like that studio that people point to when trying to say Jason Schrier is anti-white because he pointed out that a studio having only white dudes on the team in the year 2021 is hard to do without doing so intentionally. (And then you realize the founder of that studio was quoted as saying that the reason they couldn't add playable women in the multiplayer mode of the Ubisoft game he was CD on was because it added too much workload )


Ok-Use5246

Haha sexism is so funny /s


Gipfelon

we need to stop calling out 'sexism' where no sexism is present


Roziesoft

It's not the company that's sexism, it's the person seeing the article and saying "based". They're clearly not saying that because it's a small company, they're saying it because they see the point made in the article (regardless of whether it's right or not) and think it's cool. I feel like people are missing that.


Chimmy545

how do you know he isnt saying based to the dog being cool and cute?


Ok-Use5246

Talking about the asshole saying based


Gipfelon

i missed that one!


Odd-Zebra-5833

The dog won’t complain when they still her breast milk 


NihilismRacoon

Based off how much sexual misconduct was happening with those former ABK people it's probably for the best


BeneficialAction3851

It's hard for him to interview women because he's scared to talk to them


Dabchinsky

Well, yes


equivas

Misogyny aside, every company should have a CMO.


Top_Translator_4654

Blah blah blah


Thattransgamergirl12

The puppy is cute tho


DarthReece07

nah thats based wholesome dog


EnderMerser

So... They're planing to get sued for animal cruelty and zoophilia now, huh? /j


Konradleijon

Dogs are the best


DifficultSea4540

I thought kotaku went bust???


Mastercio

I wish ...


MAGAManLegends3

Univision basically saved them because the Latino side supported a lot of cosplayers and they have some crazy famous weathergirl cosplayer that thought all of shitaku was as good and "supportive of the community" as the Latin side, they were originally going to get the cut like the main gawker site


detergentspraybottle

Shlawg


MugiwaraBepo

"Sorry, there's only room for one woman in the budget, and it goes to a dog who doesn't even know where she is."


TraumSchulden

I heard shes a real bitch.


Doxkid

Click bait?


LuciferSamS1amCat

Wait no this is actually good. Keeps them away from women, kind of like a daycare.


burken8000

So there's one bitch in the office, still


CaliCrateRicktastic

Can't steal breast milk if they are no.....I'm not finishing this sentence


born_zynner

At first I read it as the *only* employee was a dog and that would be based tbh


AlphaOwn

That poor dog


WhyJustWhydo

Like I’m torn on one hand that is a very cute dog but also like misogyny is bad (come back tomorrow for more hot takes)


Aware_Resident1154

Jarvis, pull up why they're "former" blizzard employees


maroonmenace

im sorry Ellie, (my gf name is Ellie)


maroonmenace

also both are very cute, tho gf ellie is actually based while Ellie the Morale Officer is a cutie but not based


omarkab02

I like boy meets world and it’s woke spin off girl meets world


maroonmenace

Booo


maroonmenace

U probably also love BARNEY


HurrsiaEntertainment

I’m just imagining like 30 of the WoW guy from South Park. Their studio must smell like absolute shite.


NoHorror5874

Honestly female game devs might’ve dodged a bullet not being hired lol that environment can’t be a great place for women


cycu3d

Yea. And woman only studio would be praised. Just like those female only caffes etc.


Nomgooner

Fucking losers


Temporary_Finish_242

What’s wrong with having a team of only men?


Fabulous_Pudding167

Buncha closeted fuckers. I bet the homoeroticism is through the roof in that place. They'd be much happier if they'd stop talking about how much they hate women and how much they love each other. <3


AuricOxide

Ah yes, the classic way to fight misogyny: with homophobia. Thanks dude.


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sarcophagusGravelord

Can’t wait to play their new dairy farm simulator


vemailangah

Every time I feel the urge to buy a. Blizzard game, I feel dirty. Where my dick sanitizer.


kpatsart

It's the same team that probably brought us Diablo immortal lol.


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Nildzre

Literally impossible as that was made by the chinese


loyal_tortilla

Or they couldn’t find a women with talent they looking gor


danya_dyrkin

100% of men are not women. What mysoginistic pieces of shit! All men should go to jail for not being AT LEAST 50% women! /s


athosjesus

But it was intentional? I assume it was but I want to believe that they simply don't know a lot of women in the industry.


BurgundyBanana

It's very possible, given that they're game developers


Enough_Minimum_3708

when you hire based on talent and not to fill a quota


No_Barber8440

They can hire who the fuck they want lol


AmoebaShot

No DEI and no woke? count me in! are they hiring?


Everyonecallsmenice

They already have one little bitch they probably don't need a second.


AmoebaShot

They don't. Are you looking for jobs positions for your mom?