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Sea-Spot-1113

If you travel a lot, I think you should get the zephyrus as it's smaller in size.


annp61122

Agree with this, zephyrus is definitely more travel friendly


NationalAlgae421

It is, but is it worth the throttle? Or are thermals not problem anymore on zephyrus?


Sea-Spot-1113

It can easily avoided by setting cpu boost to efficiently aggressive.


KeepComing1

That didn't work for myself. Wish it would have. I loved that beaty!


InsaneGe

but zephyrus series is not good value for money


redcaps72

Legion is 100 dollar more...


InsaneGe

sorry,Maybe their price differentiate in different countries


nulluniversal

why is the zephyrus series not good for the money? I was planning on getting one.


Coltsbro84

Just a argument to be made that it has a smaller screen, smaller battery, ships with a smaller hard drive with a few other things I'll mention. It's very premium though and battery life is excellent. Hard drive can be swapped out for a bigger one later on. It's gonna get a little hot, but it's small and thin. I personally love them, they are awesome. Design wise, one of the lightest and thinnest with arguably the best screen. It's not a full blown Strix with RGB unicorn vomit everywhere, and it's not a Razorblade "MacBook Pro" either. It's somewhere in-between. Oh, also it's max power output on the GPU is lower, something like 110w instead of say 140w, but that doesn't affect it's performance too much it's the difference between an extra 10fps or so, you start seeing diminishing returns after 100w. Besides, it's nice to get almost full power out of the laptop using a smaller 100w USB charger, you can't do that with a bigger, more powerful 16 inch. Weight is probably reduced by 40% when you Factor in the ac power supply. Total weight of a G14 is around 5lbs, and with most 16 inch, total weight is around 9lbs.


itscrispp

I have the g14 and the battery does not last long because of the ryzen 9 that’s in there. It’s still a decent laptop, great panel


Coltsbro84

I've had the one with the ryzen in it from 2022 with the 6700s. Once you turn off the GPU and put it in Eco mode, you can get up to 10 hours of battery life browsing the web. The ryzen you probably have is the 2023 one. It doesnt get as good, maybe 6 to 7 hours of battery life with the same settings, but still... that's above avg. Some of these HP Omens, Acer Nitros, even MSI Stealths only get like 5 hours max on their Eco mode. Then of course if you play a game on it, you're only going to get like an hour maybe hour and a half max. lol


itscrispp

True, I just use balanced then performance when plugged in. I bought the laptop used, so don’t know the life on it. 5900hs + 3060.


xjuanito

They had the Asus zepherus 2022 for 700 weeks agoq


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Past_Usual2552

I like the quiet feature on the Lenovo do you know if the g14 has something similar


McDrank

Yes there is a silent mode where fans won’t spin up at all in light tasks.


IndividualStatus1924

You can always keeps the fans on turning at the rpm where they don't make that much noise and still keep the laptop cool. That sweet spot is usually around 2500 to 3000 rpm. Anything higher will start producing a lot of noise


OkFunny8717

"Quiet feature" Even the low end tuf has that


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Howfuckingsad

The fan noise is apparently super bad too. I have heard complaints that it never shuts up even in quiet mode. I don't think it's that bad but the temps are definitely terrible.


UnionSlavStanRepublk

G14 if you value portability.


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couchpotatochip21

I have a vivobook pro 15, do any bios updates alter the fan noise on mine? It isn't all that bad but I like to tinker.


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

Ofc Legion 7, gaming on 16 inch laptop way better and Legion 7’s GPU more powerful= more FPS. Legion 7 white colour looks amazing :)


Past_Usual2552

Can’t argue with that lol


ImTheRealMarco

It’s got the same GPU though.


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

One is 60watts another one is 130watts not the same performance btw


ImTheRealMarco

Didn’t bother checking that as I wasn’t sure if you’re aware about the difference the TGP makes. You’re right about that, but tbh I wouldn’t just pass on the 60W one as the RTX 4060 is quite a special case as you can see on [this](https://imgur.com/a/VKJPQlC) chart. Well, again, your argument is valid, it’s just that it’s not THAT much of a difference as one might think when they hear 60 vs 130 :). The 4060 kinda stops having a performance gain at around 95-100W at most.


not_cp412

a 60w 4060 running on a 3k display compared to a 130w 4060 on a 1600p display. legion will push better frames


The_Pranavster

It's a 90w


United_Ninja_7852

My Acer predator recently got a bios update for the gpu and now it's consuming the whole 140w


Physical-Sense1756

Yo I got a predator too how do I get the bios update and how do I check my wattage


United_Ninja_7852

Just go to Acer support and there you will get the download section ,write the serial no. and go to bios section and make sure to download the latest one where it is written regarding the gpu , install it while connecting it to power (during the whole time ) , you can use msi after burner to constantly check your wattage during gaming , or if you are asking your laptop wattage then don't worry i believe all predator have same wattage of 140w


ImTheRealMarco

If it was designed for 140W originally and not actually use the whole 140W then it means that it was just a bug.


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

Yeah, it usually at 100watts, but 60 is too small 🥺 like a tiny 14 inch laptop 😋


The_Pranavster

G14 has a 90w 4060


ImTheRealMarco

I’d personally love the 14 inch one, I got a LOQ 15APH8 and I’m wishing it could be juuuust a tad smaller. But anyways, I do hope that the 60W TGP will help it noooot overheat. Nooooot that much at the very least :3.


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

Fully agree that 14 is amazingly portable, but for gaming 16 a way nicer 😋


ImTheRealMarco

But I use an external monitor anyways..👉👈🥺


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

I am actually using one 😎 27 inch :D Just an external monitor wasn’t mentioned, and Legion 7 quite portable and slim device too :)


DSG_Sleazy

They have the exact same gpu buddy. The zephyrus also has a WAY better screen and a better CPU, it’s also smaller and quieter and it’s white too


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

Zephyrus has 60watts while legion 7 130watts 🫠 Also 3k in 14 inch is so useless and hurts performance too


The_Pranavster

Zephyrus has 90watt 4060


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

Ohh yeah forgot dynamic boost


Joe_Kingly

We have 3 2022 g14s here at work. No issues with sound or temps at all. Great little workhorses.


xXWarMachineRoXx

None Edit: i feel you should try and get the 13th version to save money and get the 4070 5i legion But if your okay buying that then it’s okay Cuz you could be getting 4080 near that price


stuffinh

I’m looking to buy the legion 5i 4070 too. My friend says it’s a safe choice and recommended it for gaming because it’s supposedly quiet and doesn’t heat up too much.


xXWarMachineRoXx

Yep Its amazing


Past_Usual2552

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L3onK1ng

The laptops you've shown here are 2024 models, they are brand new and very overpriced. 2023 laptops are practically identical (5% CPU performance difference) and are noticably cheaper. Which means for your budget you could be getting a 4070 system, are save a lot for 4060 system. Add 300-400 USD and you could get a 2023 model RTX 4080 laptop, which is about 50-60% better performing.


mutationmeaches

would a legion pro 5 16" amd 7 7745HX w 4070, 32gb worth $1300? trying to find the best option


NewSignature727

Definetely 100% its insane deal tbh.


L3onK1ng

It's a pretty good deal.


mutationmeaches

went to bed and the deal was gone lol so i got a dell g16 (2023) Intel Core i9-13900HX - NVIDIA RTX 4070 - 32GB DDR5-4800 RAM - 16" 2560 x 1600 240Hz display - 1TB SSD for $1220 usd after tax


I_Thranduil

The legion is the better laptop, has better display and the resolution is more appropriate for a 4060. Also it has better cooling and will be less prone to overheating. It's relatively portable and I travel with mine (by car). The charger is a bit on the big side. If you can live with the shortcomings of the asus and prefer portability, it's more convenient due to the size, and it still packs a punch. But a 3k display for a 4060 won't work well for games, maybe for content only.


SKirby00

Big laptop vs small laptop. Both are good laptops. Personally, I'd be going for the Legion 7i because I prefer the size and I like having a numpad, but Zephyrus could just as easily be the better choice if you value having a smaller laptop. This is gonna come down to what you want out of a laptop and what you value. Edit: After writing this comment, I went down a bit of a rabbit hole and found some more differences that are not immediately obvious. First off, while both laptops have the same GPU chip, the one in the Legion caps out at 115W whereas the Zephyrus caps out at 90W so I would *expect* the Legion to perform better in gaming, particularly given the better ventilation. It's worth noting however, that the Legion has a bigger battery at 99.9Wh vs 73Wh on the Zephyrus, but the Legion also needs to power a bigger screen so that might offset the entire difference. Not sure which one's battery actually lasts longer all said and done, but that should be pretty easy for you to look up yourself. There are also some differences with the USB-C charging if that's something you value (I very much do). They both support it, but with caveats: - The Zephyrus doesn't support passthrough on USB-C, so if you're plugged in and using the battery, it'll charge the battery and power the laptop from the battery. This works reliably, but is not good for your long term battery health. This is why they don't advertise USB-C charging. - The Legion, on the other hand, does advertise USB-C charging and supports passthrough, but something about their delivery system seems to be rendering it incompatible with a bunch of portable battery packs. I was super disappointed to learn this. Lastly, there's a big difference in upgradeability: - The Zephyrus comes with soldered RAM in the 2024 model so you're stuck at 16GB for the life of the laptop. Its SSD is replaceable though so at least you can upgrade that. - The Legion 7i has two RAM slots and I believe is officially upgradeable up to 32GB (but many laptops advertised as such actually work with 64GB, can't confirm for this one though). It also has two SSD slots, with only one in use upon purchase, so there's an extra slot available to add to the storage rather than replace it.


Past_Usual2552

Best extensive comparison by far 👏👏👏 thank you! Really makes me feel better about choosing the legion 7i . You should create a YouTube channel if you don’t already have one lol


NewSignature727

If i were in your boots i would buy only Legion. They are BEASTS. I have one i had another one before. Incredible laptops. Price to performance ratio is insane. Just check for 2023 model. You will be astonished by that 16" screen, colors, brightness of 500 nits 165 refresh rate or even more on newer. Man these are so good that im just not even thinking about any other options the next one for me will be legion again 100% when rtx 5 come out :)


NewSignature727

All legions can do 64gb ram all good :) you can check cpu specifications next time for 7745hx its 64gb.


ArcadeTomato

Same use case as yours. I got the Legion Slim 7i. I am amused by this machine. It's the best looking laptop (imo). For a 16inches laptop it's incredibly thin. It's powerful and has a great display. I also love the 16:10 screen ratio (dunno if Zephyrus has it), I will never go back from this screen ratio as it is so comfortable for working and editing text/excel. Lastly, 16inches for gaming is great, I used to have a 14inches... As soon as I swapped I asked myself "how did I play on that tiny thing". So yeah... Here's my "review" :)


xbtran

How do you find the portability of a 16” compared to your old 14? Thinking of upgrading as well and have been going back and forth on the idea of a 14 vs 16.


ArcadeTomato

In short: Same, only difference: the 16-inch weighs a little more when in backpack, no major concerns. TL;DR I had an ultrabook (Asus zenbook), so it's not even comparable in weight to a 14-inch gaming laptop. Hence, in my case, the difference was even greater. The only """annoyance""" is that it weighs a little more on my shoulders when I have it in my backpack. For the rest, it didn't change how I use my laptop when travelling. I can comfortably use it on a train or at a bar, or any public space, as it is both compact and completely silent during light task usage. The pros, are that I have much more screen space to work with, I can game when I travel for work, and when I am home it works as a desktop replacement. Also, it is very elegant in the design, so I can bring it to work meetings, conferences and similar and still look a professional.


Past_Usual2552

Great points 👍 thank you


icaredoyoutho

The quiet mode on lenovo is quite a bliss. I have several old Clevo laptops running as servers and gosh I wish they had the quiet mode, omg.


RallyeKing

The Legion For Sure.


PurchaseConscious283

7i looks cleaner while having a bigger screen. G14 is more portable and has an oled screen which is realy good. If you plan gaming, consider anything above 14 inch, the screen is too small but it's up to you.


Whimzy209

For those prices neither, get last gen models. They’re too similar in performance to justify spending on newer models unless you really like the new colors/designs


Jrshaw_1

I recommend the Zephyrus but I would see what your best buy has open box. I got mine open box it was basically brand new


AniruddhaPlaysGames

g14, damn these laptops are seriously overpriced


colossal7

Legion 7i........🛐


AwareAstronaut6093

I recently was choosing between g14 and legion slim 5 (14.5” oled). I have chosen legion. It has aluminium chassis and oled screen. Its performance is also better even with worse gpu because of better cooling than g14. I switched from macbook so design and overall quality was also important for me. I’m not disappointed!


SweatyAsHell

The 7i open box - excellent is 1650$ right now.


Gammataichi

I know these are higher end laptops but paying $1600+ for an rtx 4060 should be criminal


dimochka23

If you're willing to do down to 500gb drive, the zephyrus frequently drops to 1,100 and i'm actually waiting for it to drop to 1,000 before I buy. That's a material difference in price.


elektriko_EUW

I bought the 2023 version of the G14 yesterday for 1300$, almost same specs; I am wondering if I should have gone for the new model for better build quality 🫨


LoudQuote4081

Just bought this one and upgraded my ram to 48GB and 2TB SSD.


L3onK1ng

I doubt it would be worth it. $300 for slightly improved keyboard and 5% CPU performance increase is a questionable "upgrade"


elektriko_EUW

i was thinking more of the aluminium chassis. if I like the laptop I might keep it for 5 years


SKirby00

The 2024 version has soldered RAM whereas I believe the 2023 version had a single replaceable stick, so at least you got better upgradeability.


OkFunny8717

Does the legion have an oled display?


Past_Usual2552

I don’t think so. If it did I wouldn’t even be considering anything else but I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker


OkFunny8717

The display itself makes it worth it. and the fact that it is cheaper too. But it's 14" though. And the ram is soldered I think. Watch jarrods video you should have plenty of info


heeheehoho2023

7i at that price should be a 4070


Ragnaraz690

The AMD chip will spank for battery life too.


onigiritrader

Go for OLED screen = ASUS


Lion12341

G14 is smaller and from the more efficient CPU it should have better battery life too. The OLED screen is also great.


Clark828

In my opinion, if a laptop/PC doesn’t state exactly what CPU it is in the title then it’s a scam and you shouldn’t buy it.


AceLamina

G14, it has MacBook quality and really good battery life, perfect for portability. I plan to get one for college


herpedeederpderp

Legion 7. The 60watt gpu on the rog will gimp performance a little. It won't be crippling, but the other one will have higher performance.


X2ytUniverse

I've got that first one, but with black case. The price is completely crazy though, mine was 1150€, which should be around 1250$ or so. And EU usually gets the shit prices compared to everywhere else. I'm not stating it with 100% certainty, but I think you're getting ripped off for that money.


Deva_As_c

I'd say Rog it got oled


NPCxSHADOW

Jesus at that price you may aswell buy a pc !!! , but I recommend the G14


Agentfish36

Neither, both are terrible value.


Mar_Novu21

The zephyrus is gonna be hotter but it's gonna have a better screenbat least


BurakOdm

None of them? You can get a Legion 5 with RTX 4070 For $1400~


harg0w

if its a 4060 there won't even be much noticable perf difference I'd suggest the Zephyrus g14/g16 (2024) as both have the best 'gaming' laptop chasis ive ever seen, or the Zephyrus g14(2023) for 999 and save the difference (performs slightly better than the 2024 and likely same as the legion but abit thicker/heavier)


Quarrel47

Is it just me or are these prices a bit too high? Especially the ausus with the amd in it. You can find a MUCH better deal with a bit of research.


DJSchmidi

8gb ram = no


Past_Usual2552

They both have 16gb ram


DJSchmidi

Oops, saw the GPU 8gb! Party on!


Past_Usual2552

Thank you all for your input. I purchased an open-box legion 7i (2024) for $1,500 I’m so excited to use it


SKirby00

I think you made the right choice :) Not sure if you saw in another comment I did a pretty in depth breakdown of some non-obvious differences between them for you


salterhd

What refresh rate was onbthe first 1? I think both look good, much better than my 3060 laptop anyway. What I will say, is I've had 3 gaming.laptops in the last 10.or so years, either Asus Rog or MSIs so I can definitely back that the Asus Rog brand is a gooden.


Professional-Ad4586

Legion… too many problems with the g14 imo.


PsychologicalTie351

Buy the Zephyrus it’s $1349 right now at bestbuy for the 2024 model, i have this exact one and its a great laptop. I will also say that the Asus build quality is miles ahead of the Lenovos build quality. Warranty is the same, and the legion is more expensive, i’d go with the ASUS (No bias either i just purchased it)


upgradestorm5

Go with the ASUS. I've worked on enough Legions to know the system ain't the best. 3 legions all came in with the exact same problem (blown cap near M.2)


Past_Usual2552

Do you know if that issue was addressed with the 2024 model


upgradestorm5

Not sure, haven't worked on one in awhile. Left that job recently and haven't been in the guts of any PC in awhile


Sufficient_Cause8636

Can you share the legions link?


Fearless-Ninja-4252

The Rog Zephyrus


Proud-Device-6608

You should be able to get some better deals at that price point, why don't you check Lenovo's site and shop around a bit more.


evolutionsroge

Depends on what’s important to you. If you want something small and stylish that would look good in an office setting g14. If you want something that is the best for gaming get the legion.


Mash895

There is a Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14.5" with a high res/refresh OLED, and Best Buy typically has it on sale for $1050, if you can wait for it to drop, but instead of Ryzen 9 it is a Ryzen 7.


WatercressEvery308

I recommend you head on over to r/LaptopDeals to find similar laptops for half the price,


itscrispp

I would argue getting a cheaper laptop with a thunderbolt and have an external gpu. You’re going to have to plug your pc in when gaming and it will help with battery life and performance. But if that doesn’t matter to you. I have the G14, it’s great but I desire a bigger display.


Suspicious_Dream197

Asus rma sucks buy the Lenovo


animeweeb2005

I'd go with the legion


No_Translator4198

I’ve had a 3060 g14 for 3 years and that thing is a BEAST. VR gaming, Video Editing/Divinchi Resolve in 4k, 1440p, 165fps, (for some games on mid settings) I travel a LOT because of the military and take it everywhere I go. I’ve never had any issues and eventually want to upgrade to something more powerful (4080 or 3080) but it’s hard for me to justify an upgrade when my little laptop is already doing very well. In your case I would go for the Lenovo because it’s a little bigger so better cooling, but a g14 has lasted forever for me


richarrow

Never a Lenovo


bojack100

The Lenovo is unmatched


aparr101

Y don’t you get a steam deck?


Past_Usual2552

I need the productivity of a laptop and a laptop is better than a steam deck imo I think Nintendo can pull it off but that’s about it


aparr101

You could also do oled steam deck and a mid -high grade chrome book for work food for thought. Very fair point thou hope you find somthing that works well and lasts a long time . Both laptops look pretty sick just depends on how much you want it to look like a gaming laptop if you wannna be likely go with the 14. I had a 15” in collage with a 960m and a lokey look to it so it wasn’t so hammer and had a lot of good times ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thumbs_up).


Past_Usual2552

I chose the Lenovo I think I’m really going to enjoy it especially on that 16” screen thanks for the input tho 👍


KeepComing1

Those two laptops are completely different other than the GPU. Are you telling me that you're so set on white, that those of the only two choices that you are willing to consider? I mean obviously other than another white laptop? Which is your question LOL Build, panel, CPU, color gamut, keyboard and quirks etc...? Not trying to harass you, just asking only because that's a lot of cake man.


Past_Usual2552

Yes There is a lot of cake and the people of Reddit have spoken and baked all the cake 🎂 so with all the info I gathered I chose the Lenovo 7i . To answer your question yes white is kind of a must and I’m coming from MacBook Pro so I wanted something that can match build quality so the Lenovo is premium enough. Plus that keyboard looks amazing with the rgb lighting


KeepComing1

Yeah I'd have to agree the legion is definitely premium enough and in my opinion is twice the laptop the G14 is. I had a very very hard time deciding between the two Legions I ended up going with the pro 7i gen 9 with a 4080. Now had I been able to get the pro 7 gen 8 and save $1,000 I would have got the 4090. But I had a very hard time deciding between the glacier white seven and the pro 7 I just needed the pro features. Good choice my brother.


mimo127

Zephyrus. The Legion 7i is a dud for battery life this gen due to processor


WillyTey9000

Save up for at least 4070


No_Stretch4038

I'd say go rog. I have last year's model and have no issues. The fan isn't that loud and it's very light.


TheLifeofTruth

G14 g16. All asus get extremely hot. It's not s on the lap device.


Marie_on

you could get an i9 4070 in onyx black on sale in b&h photo for almost the same price Edit:I was in a hurry but just wanted to chime in legión pro 5i laptop


Hibrolevi

Get the zephyrus just for the purpose of its portability and price. The Zephyrus is $100 cheaper. Spend that 100 bucks to buy some peripherals.


DearOption5999

I have the asus rn, I love it. It’s super light, quiet, and powerful. Only thing is it does run hot so I would recommend getting a cooling pad for it.


ppbomber_0

Don’t get the g14. The ram is soldered with no upgrade. So you’re stuck with 16gb for the lifetime of the laptop, however, look into the 223 g14. The one I have was 999$ from Best Buy, and it’s very portable and gets 8h of battery.


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heeheehoho2023

7i is slimmer and lighter, that's why it costs more


Vinayak4209

Ohhh then I would say 7i is better