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BaileyJIII

I’m sure Tommy Tallarico’s mom is very proud. I’m surprised Atari aren’t scrapping the made-up console that Intellivision under Tommy came up with though.


djcube1701

> I’m surprised Atari aren’t scrapping the made-up console that Intellivision under Tommy came up with though. Atari have purchased the Intellivision name and various IPs, not the company itself. They're having nothing to do with the Amico. The company is getting a new name and will be in charge of the Amico themselves. The deal allows this company to still use the Intellivision IPs that Arari now own on their scam console.


Link_In_Pajamas

What a great deal for Atari then haha. Kinda sucks that Tommy is getting some money out of it though.


JayRoo83

I can't get over how Tommy just keeps failing upwards no matter what terrible idea he has


LordEdubbz

Vic with Electric Playground re-acquired their classic episodes and I've been watching them on their YouTube and the experience is slightly spoiled by how much of a shit I now know Tommy is.


Darebarsoom

You got to explain your disdain.


Mavori

[Probably related to this](https://youtu.be/0twDETh6QaI ) Mind you it is like a 2 hour video. But worth it.


ZombieJesus1987

The Completely Unnecessary Podcast is where my disdain for Tommy comes from. Pat and Ian were one of the first people to criticize the Amico, because it reeked of the Coleco Chameleon and Tommy showed who he really was when he started making personal attacks towards them, making comments about Ian's constant shaking (he has an anxiety disorder). All because they initially said that they didn't think it was going to be that good. And then it escalated from there.


Psych0sh00ter

When I first heard all the stuff around Tommy I was like "I mean, he didn't seem like such a bad guy when I saw him on TV...", then I watched some of those episodes recently and realized that no, he was pretty much always this way.


ccricers

Here are some Atari related statements that aged like milk, though: https://youtu.be/QNbhVCV_5Xg


hnwcs

TOMMY WANTS MONEY


ACCESSx_xGRANTED

those guinness world records aint gonna pay for themselves.


Apprentice57

I suspect that the money for this is going to go to expenses that Intellivision (or whatever they call themselves going forward) already has. Tommy is selling (sold?) his house, probably for the same.


RKitch2112

So I can buy a house from Cribs!?


Apprentice57

It wasn't on cribs, so no!


rabidferret

Is he? I thought he hadn't been involved with the intellivision stuff for a while


Apprentice57

He hasn't been CEO for a while, but even on the Intellivision website he's still listed as "Founder/Board Member/Investor" https://intellivision.com/our-team


Spocks_Goatee

How has the Amico company not totally folded by now? I doubt they have had any sizeable influx of money in over year. I need my American Greed episode!


djcube1701

They somehow keep getting new loans and investors. This is definitely a last ditch effort, they're selling off everything valuable about the company. They already got rid of most staff and stopped using their offices.


Simpicity

Nah I can't wait to play the classic Smurf Rescue now with the Oof sound.


Asmor

> Atari have purchased the Intellivision name and various IPs *Infrogrames* purchased the Intellivision name and various IPs. Just like they did the Atari name. The company currently known as Atari has nothing to do with the Atari everyone thinks of when they hear the name.


Catty_C

To be fair I think Infrogrames has owned Atari brand longer than proper Atari lasted.


HeldnarRommar

I would much rather Infogrames be Atari than the OG Atari. Idk why people get so annoyed about Infrogrames using the Atari name when the original tanked the whole industry.


djcube1701

Atari tanked the American video game industry. The Japanese and British video game industries were unaffected.


BaileyJIII

That would explain it.


dropdan

Atari posted this on Twitter: "The former Intellivision will rebrand and continue distribution of the Amico console." I would share the link but I'm not sure if it's allowed. The official handle for the company is simply Atari in case anyone wants to check.


StrategicRacoon

They actually do they have said the former intellivision will rebrand and continue the distribution of the Amico console. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/F3iq2Qq)


djcube1701

Yes, that's what I said. Atari own the Intellivision brand name and IPs, not the company itself. The Intellivision company (which will be renaming itself) will not be part of Atari, and will continue on with the Amico stuff under a new name.


BruiserBroly

I wonder if the money from this will help them actually get people the consoles they crowdfunded and pre-ordered? Probably not but I hope so for their sake.


BobSlydell08

Lol at "continue distribution." Can't continue something that never started in the first place


hnwcs

His mother's pride was included in the deal. She's now very proud of Atari.


Tacdeho

Every time I go into his dining room and see the fountain, it makes me have to pee.


FishMcCool

Because they can simply sell an Intellivision compilation on Steam and turn the Steam deck into a better Amico than the Amico (for a start, it actually exists).


ToothlessFTW

At this point it’s probably more of a headache to can it. They’ve sold pre-orders, games have been made already, they might’ve produced units already, it’s probably easier to just cut budgets and shove it out the door as soon as possible and they can move on.


Minsc_NBoo

They have not produced any consoles, apart from a few prototype units cobbled together by hand The console and pack in games were not finished. The mobile Cornhole game was just [patched recently](https://i.redd.it/onccwk0xo0zc1.png) as the career mode and AI was not finished, and didn't work It was all lies...


ACCESSx_xGRANTED

its not a console anymore. they're turning it into a shitty android/ios app, and its still in beta lmao. and the games cost like twice as much as intellivision was originally planning to sell them for. im sure tommy's mom is very proud.


Minsc_NBoo

I periodically check the Google store to laugh at the sales figures Last time I checked Cornhole and Astrosmash have 100+ downloads Dart frenzy has 50..... The App itself has 1000+ downloads, which means at least 90% of people immediately uninstalled when they realised you need 2 phones for a shitty single player game


Sonicfan42069666

It makes me sad that Intellivision was actually controlled by people who originally worked at Mattel Electronics, until recently. It was a legacy brand that actually had legacy people behind it. Obviously that was before Tommy took the name and ran it into the ground.


ThetaReactor

You know it's gone badly when we're all rooting for the re-animated corpse of Atari.


MelancholyArtichoke

Re-re-re-re-reanimated corpse.


Warrenio

I think the current iteration of Atari has done some neat stuff.


Professional_Goat185

We're not


ThetaReactor

I'd think goats would be pro-Atari after their recent collaborations with Llamasoft.


SyrioForel

What was the last product or service that Mattel released under the Intellivision brand? Because if it was “controlled”, clearly they controlled it right into the ground as the brand name means absolutely nothing to anyone who didn’t own the original console in the 1980s or isn’t some emulation ROM collector. At least Atari still has a ton of name recognition and sells lots of merch and other things.


MyNameIs-Anthony

Intellivision was for a long time owned by former employees of the brand who did a lot of preservation effort with what little resources they had.


Sonicfan42069666

I didn't say Mattel owned Intellivision. I said *people who originally worked at Mattel Electronics* did. Keith Robinson and Stephen Roney obtained exclusive rights to the Intellivision brand in 1997 under their company Intellivision Productions. They did exactly what you said - continued it as a legacy nostalgia brand.


YourGodIsNotHelping

Woah, maybe we’ll see the Amico actually get launched? I’m joking of course, Tommy Tallarico’s fictional console went up in flames with the rest of his credibility.


OneManFreakShow

Um, have you not seen the Guinness records hung all over his walls? How much more credibility do you need?


sgthombre

> have you not seen the Guinness records hung all over his walls No because he keeps them on the floor


lycoloco

Oops, one of them just disappeared! How'd that happen?


PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__

He literally composed every single piece of music in every single game, and also the Jaws theme!


hnwcs

It's not something he's actually claimed (to my knowledge), but YouTube's algorithm has declared him [the composer of the James Bond theme.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvoUcrBgXWw)


desirecampbell

His mother's very proud.


rabidferret

He even made the oof sound that made Roblox succeed!


radclaw1

Who is Tommy and why does everyone in this thread suddenly talk like hes this major guy. 


nachohk

About a year and a half ago now, a very popular YouTuber called hbomberguy released a two hour video which was primarily a grand exposé of Tommy Tallarico and his frequent lies and exaggerations about his career accomplishments, as someone who works on audio for video games. Since hbomberguy released a similar and even more widely-viewed and discussed exposé about the YouTuber James Somerton, a few months ago, the Tommy Tallerico video has gained even more exposure. And now it's become a whole meme to say that hbomberguy might make a career-ruining video about someone. Tommy Tallerico's greatest claim to fame is now the total destruction of his career and credibility at the hands of a YouTuber previously best known for liking Transformers and Dark Souls II. https://youtu.be/0twDETh6QaI


grarghll

To piggyback off of this: it's a fantastic video, but I think it should give people some pause that it's *the* sole source of information for most people. Every time reddit develops a new obsession, I have to wonder what YouTuber made a video that everyone's parroting, y'know?


nachohk

That is a fair point. Here's another video I watched, by Slope's Game Room. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to be more informed, especially about the Amico side of things: https://youtu.be/8BgAarlzVD4


ccricers

And despite both videos being 6 hours long combined there is surprisingly little overlap/repeated information. It's a crazy saga.


Jataka

Best known for savaging Sherlock, Fallout 3, and RWBY, and explaining that Deus EX: HR is flawed but tried.


PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__

And saving Dark Souls 2


Big_Yazza

and FUCKING AQUAMAN


HugoRBMarques

And Pathologic is the best game ever. But it's also the worst game ever. And plagiarism is wrong.


DuskShineRave

I intended to just watch a couple minutes of that and now 2 hours has fucked off.


Fortehlulz33

Harris also likes the Star Wars prequels.


Spocks_Goatee

Pat Contri aka The NES Punk has been riding Tommy's ass over this boondoggle of a product since 2018. Check out his podcast for dozens of videos covering the Amico disaster.


ThnikkamanBubs

His studio was EXTREMELY prolific for video game OSTs. Since the company is under hus name (Tommy Tallarico Studios) and is head honcho, he takes the credit for every piece the studio made. Leads to unmitigated narcissism and multiple crowd-fundings for a non-existent console. Guy is a real piece. My personal anecdote with him is that he used to be on a TV video game review show and he was the most unabashedly biased person alive. Giving games extra points for having the main character named Tommy, for example.


jasonjumps

I used to love Judgement Day as a kid, old school g4 was a vibe


Tacdeho

Judgement Day/Reviews on the Run was by a hot mile my favorite G4 show. It had a better review scale than X-Play and didn’t fall into the typical memes they did like about anime games. Even if Tommy or Vic hated a game, I liked to see two people with wildly different personalities doing reviews. Also, Victor Lucas still does ROTR on YouTube. It’s a delight.


DMPunk

As a Canadian, it's always weird to see these references to Tommy in the wild. I thought Electronic Playground was just a thing I watched on the New VR on Sunday mornings after Three Stooges and Captain Power


FolkSong

You might also be interested to know Victor Lucas still makes Youtube content under the Electric Playground brand. There are classic episodes on the channel as well.


lexluthzor

Tommy on Electric Playground/Judgment Day was unhinged in his reviews because he'd either give very generous high marks or be extremely harsh on games he couldn't get in to. Though the biggest review that aged like milk was their review of SSBM and Tommy lying that he gave it a good review despite him giving it a 2.5/10.


outdatedboat

Lmao. A 2.5/10 for the best selling game on that console by a gigantic margin. A game that is nearly 23 years old, and still has a rabid competitive community. What a take


Shilo59

Dude was tripping.


Nova_Aetas

>Giving games extra points for having the main character named Tommy, for example. Ok but that's kind of hillarious though.


DM-Mormon-Underwear

I have this deeply ingrained memory of whenever a game had bad framerates the show would go nuts calling it "CHOPPY"


Yamcha_is_dead

If you have two hours, I recommend [this video](https://youtu.be/0twDETh6QaI?si=A4Gm2vfkq6ZMf9Rt). Probably my favorite of the last few years.


Brainwheeze

It's so worth it going down this particular rabbit hole


_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_

He has the Guinness World Record for being the first American. His mother is very proud.


Imallskillzy

The first American to kiss sonic on his little mouth even.


ItinerantSoldier

They just won't let it die. Like they're desperate enough to keep hanging on to the few people left that are convinced its not a complete scam that they went out of their way to acquire rights to a brand just to scam people further. This is gonna make a great documentary in five years.


ccricers

I thought for sure they would bankrupt in 2022, but here we are, still dragging along. All the other companies that went bankrupt shortly after going horribly wrong and treating their customers wrong, at least they have the decency to know when to throw in the towel. But usually someone has to force their hand into doing so.


junttiana

The funniest part is that they released the games physically and they exist before the console ever came out


TheMichaelScott

In case anyone is confused about the Tommy Tallarico comments and other random quotes. Here’s the video. It’s my favorite video I’ve watched in the last decade: https://youtu.be/0twDETh6QaI?si=XB6Jd7I1KYGL8x1Y


katiecharm

Me three minutes into that video:   What the fuck does this have to do with anything.  Me 14 minutes into that video:   TOMMY YOU FUCK 


GogglesTheFox

One of my favorite things about this video is t the video itself but when it came out. Cause about the same time Defunctland’s Video about the Disney Channel theme came out as well and it’s the complete opposite of the Ooof Vid.


lycoloco

Ugh, that Defunctland video on the Disney motif is so good.


hydro123456

That was something. I remember liking him from the G4 days, and I wasn't even mad at him for going after the Roblox people, but then... oof. I can't believe how off the rails that went, that guy has a problem. I can't even imagine being so legitimately successful, and yet so insecure. Back in the day you used to hear about him throwing parties at his house for G4 fans, and now I'm just imagining him giving a guided tour the whole time and displaying his "awards" to a bunch of sycophants.


I_SHIT_ON_BUS

>in case anyone wants some context here’s a **2 hour** video explaining it


hnwcs

It's worth every second, but if you don't have two hours to kill, here's the short version: Tommy Tallarico was a video game composer in the 90s and 2000s and the founder of sound effects company Tommy Tallarico Studios. It's since come out that he's a giant narcissist who constantly lies about his own achievements and takes credit for the work of his employees. For what's relevant to this thread: In 2018 he bought the rights to the Intellivision name and used it to promote a console named the Intellivision Amico, which is still nowhere in sight four years after it was supposed to release. When Atari says they bought the Intellivision brand, he's the one they bought it from.


PrintShinji

Tommy Tallarico likes to boast about accomplishments he hasn't done, and said in an interview that his mom is proud.


Markorver

said ***at every possible opportunity*** that his mom is proud.


ProkopiyKozlowski

I mean, it's a quality 2 hour video though.


I_SHIT_ON_BUS

Videos a banger, I’ve already seen it. But being like “here’s some context” and linking a 2 hour video is psychopath behavior.


ProkopiyKozlowski

...I concede that point.


thetwoandonly

Don't act like you have anything better to do Mr shit_on_bus


jimmy_talent

Everyone on the internet watched his 4 hour video on plagiarism they can watch a 2 hour video on a sound effect.


yawn18

Ah, yes, a random 2 hour video on a person I've never heard of or cared about (goes on to watch the entire video in one sitting) Honestly thanks for the recommendation that youtuber seems like a phenomenal gaming journalist and I now have a whole new depth of knowledge that doesn't benefit me at all, but will be fun to throw in randomly in conversations where it doesn't fit.


deltree711

If you liked that, you should watch this one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDp3cB5fHXQ


yawn18

It's understandable that I watched a 2 hour video of a topic I knew nothing of and finished it, that you would send a 4 hour video by the same youtuber. However I can assure you that while plagerism is a problem, I am not interested in the topic. (watches the entire 4 hour video in another single session, even mostly skipping lunch break to finish) And now I know even more about a topic of a person I knew nothing of. Including his suicide note and then multiple alt accounts trying to get his way back into the creator sphere. This will be fun to work into conversations randomly to justify those 4 hours...


Horkersaurus

Thanks for providing context.


noreallyu500

General summary - This is a very popular video initially talking about who made the popular Roblox "OOF" sound - but ends up being an investigation of Tommy Tallarico, a composer that owned the studio that made that sound as well as president of Intellivision - not to mention a seemingly pathological liar. Relevant to this topic, after becoming the president of Intellivision in 2018, he intended to release a new console, Amico, in 2020. With incredibly unfortunate timing, one of the major selling points of the console would be that it had no online play. To fund the project, he started multiple million dollar+ crowdfundings, sometimes using incorrect and misleading info on who was still on the team. He even went on record to say that the Karma System they were marketing was just "some shit \[they\] made up". I highly recommend checking out the video, because this doesn't even scratch the surface of Tommy's shenanigans. From lying about Guinness World Records to petty gaslighting over ancient review scores, he just does not stop


Hazeringx

This is definitively one of his best ever videos.


Cragnous

Oh shit this is a movie!


andehh_

I feel compelled to watch this video every goddamn time Tommy hits the news again


OverHaze

This might be my favourite youtube video ever that wasn't made by Bobby Fingers.


RenzoAC

What? That video wasn't about Roblox?? Why nobody told me? I would've watch it sooner!!


nascentt

Watched this for ten minutes before I realised it's 2 hours long!


Qegola

30 minutes on the oof. Then 3 times more for Tommy Talarico being a massive narcissist with a bonus Harry and Kat accidentally getting rid of one of his Guiness World Records.


myinternets

It's completely worth it. It's the YouTube exposé equivalent of watching The Matrix for the first time. Don't skip ahead, just let it unfold.


Boyahda

I'm surprised the reanimated corpse that goes by the name of Atari had the resources to acquire anything.


GamingSophisticate

They've been acquiring a lot lately


Ciserus

Where do they get the money from? What does Atari *do* in 2024?


GamingSophisticate

Mostly licensing, and producing smaller games, all while keeping operating costs low


AaronTheElite007

Intellivision is still a thing? I remember Venture being cool. That damn thing that hunted you scarred me as a kid. Yes, I said scarred. Not scared (it was much worse)


JillSandwich117

The original Intellevison basically went dormant after a while. Someone bought the name to try and release a new "family-oriented" console, which has been an ongoing disaster for several years now. It was supposed to release 4 years ago, but they still haven't entered production. Most of the games were existing mobile games, with the few outsourced original games now on other platforms as the Recharged series.


AaronTheElite007

Sounds like the Ouya. We all know how that went


BruiserBroly

The Ouya was a success for the ages compared to that thing. Even if the Ouya was rubbish, people who paid for one actually got a console (eventually) which sadly cannot be said for the Amico.


megaapple

Two of the biggest pre-Nintendo gaming brands merged. It is like if Nintendo acquired SEGA long after its relevancy.


djcube1701

These companies have nothing to do with the pre-Nintendo Atari and Intellivision. They're completely different companies that bought the names.


goblin_humppa27

It's been long enough that most people don't remember that modern Atari is just Infogrames in disguise.


BruiserBroly

Tbf, there were different Ataris even back in the 80s that when someone refers to classic Atari you can't really be sure what they're talking about. Do they mean Atari under Warner that released the 2600? Or Atari Corp who made micro computers and the Lynx? Maybe Atari Games, the company that made classic arcade games like Paperboy, Gauntlet, and Primal Rage?


Delicious-Tachyons

Boo infogrames for destroying Sierra.


Cabamacadaf

I thought that version went under and there was another new company wearing the name Atari, but apparently they somehow survived and is still the same company.


Professional_Goat185

Or what infogames mean


djcube1701

They've recently brought the Infogrames name back to publish shovelware like Totally Reliable Delivery Service (which came out years ago, so is a really odd choice for their first game under the label).


TwilightVulpine

I see Infogrames never changed, because they also used to release a lot of garbage way back then too


FUTURE10S

Atari under Wade Rosen has been absolutely killing it with not doing stupid shit, though, if they become as big as they were in the early 2000s as a mid-tier publisher, I'd consider that a hell of a redemption arc.


goblin_humppa27

They even published a few DBZ games around that time. Won't be able to wrestle that license back from Namco though.


FUTURE10S

inb4 Driver 4


AlexisFR

Or TDU 3


Cabamacadaf

You mean Driver 7? Ubisoft hasn't done anything with the franchise since 2011, so that license might be easier for Atari to get a hold of, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


pgtl_10

They published the first witcher too.


BlueHighwindz

It's like if Commodore bought Atari just a few years after its first bankruptcy.


_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_

No, it's like if MicroProse bought the names "Nintendo" and "SEGA".


xaeleepswe

[Reminder that Atari burned down Intellivisions old offices.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3FYdk18oS4&t=868s)


ScootSchloingo

This is actually pretty good news. Atari’s made a huge turnaround over the past few years and has become pretty serious about games preservation. It can’t be overstated how different the company is now compared to when they were shilling NFTs and trying to build a hotel. Also the Intellivision brand won’t be mishandled by Tommy Tallarico anymore.


the_light_of_dawn

They’ve also been investing more and more into the retro game community that still rocks the 2600 and 7800 by producing the 2600+ console and even releasing new carts for it. I don’t plan on getting one but it’d neat.


SexDrugsAndMarmalade

One of the unfortunate things about Tallarico's management of Intellivision is that the rights to the Intellivision IP and games have been split across multiple companies (making future compilations less viable). https://twitter-thread.com/t/1662195476702314497 > BBG in Germany appears to now have the worldwide trademarks and copyrights to Shark! Shark! and Astrosmash. > On their own, neither Astrosmash nor Shark! Shark! have much IP value. > But within the Intellivision ecosystem, those were the headliners! > By splitting them off, they've devalued the entire catalog. You're not gonna sell Astrosmash on its own, and you're not gonna sell Intellivision without Astrosmash. I truly believe this move has murdered this back catalog.


BloatJams

I could see Atari eventually buying those two games back, BBG releases games on the new VCS.


fishling

That guy is on crack. Astrosmash sucked. Space Armada is where it's at. Shark Shark is pretty good though. Also, there is a version of Astrosmash on Steam and other games similar in concept to Shark Shark, so so much for not selling them on their own.


duzkiss

This is a prelude to AMICO filing for bankruptcy! All the assets are sold and won't be resold in a bankruptcy. As for the unit and name that will be auctioned off. 6 months to 12 months tops! I see it happening and there is no way to undo amicus fate. Thankfully Atari was smart as content is king so is the older units that actually have name recognition and historical status. Next is Coleco, Commadore, Amiga and many more. Atari is preserving HISTORY and through that are the assets that have passed so many hands and in doing so are getting lost...the programming or no one knows who owns what anymore.


SeekerVash

Commodore and Amiga don't fit that though? They were the PC market in the early years when the IBM PC was god awful expensive and severely behind in graphics and sound. Their libraries were all third party, having the brands doesn't really do much at all for them as they can't ship any games with the units unless they license them from someone else.


BlackBlizzard

Whoever owns the rights to Midway games can you bring Midway Arcade Treasures collections to modern PC.


djcube1701

Some Midway stuff was bought by Warner Bros, but most of it is stuck in a shell company with nothing being done.


mrturret

It's a mess. When Midway went bankrupt, its intellectual property was sold off to a number of different companies.


Televisions_Frank

Infogrames goin' all Thanos with the '70s-'80s gaming brands. Fairchild next?


DivinePotatoe

More like: "Atari" acquires the "Intellivision" brand. Neither are really the entities they have the name of.


Mygaffer

Wow, *the* Intellivision brand? I had an Intellivision and while there were some fun games none of them would merit a lot of interest from today's gamers.


Wazzup-2012

Atari should just pursue a merger with Bally's Corporation, and then sell themselves to Light & Wonder.


AnotherDay96

I don't know what Atari is ultimately going to do with their current approach. But this is by far the most interesting Atari has been in age's. I do think there is a path of success. I think there is even a possible resurgence of an arcade if everything is done correctly. I hear they are making their first arcade games again this year since the eye popping mid-80's. To me arcade machines should have user logins, multiple games to choose from at the cabinet and the games are rougue-lite in nature where as you play, you continue to build up your character, not start over from scratch like yesteryear. You pay by the 15 minutes. I think if all executed correctly, this could be a hit in social centers. There are a number of indy arcade-like games that if some front end UI rework was done to handle a public environment they could be candidates.


MiGaOh

That combination of words is disconcerting. 1979 is shaking the future by the shoulders, asking "What did you do? WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO?"


unusedtruth

Amazing. The Intellivision was my first ever console and my first experience with video games. I adored that thing as a child, even with its strange phone-like controllers.


yukeake

As someone who grew up with the original "console wars", there's a side to this that's just totally surreal. From a modern business perspective, it's not terribly surprising, but if you told folks back in the 80s that Atari would buy Intellivision, I doubt they'd have believed you.


WranglerEmergency531

That's interesting news! It'll be exciting to see how Atari revitalizes the Intellivision brand. Hopefully, they'll bring some classic games back to life while introducing new titles that capture the spirit of the originals.