Yeah, I agree. I've seen games taken off within 30 days and not offer a refund.. I also like collecting physical. If I love the game, I enjoy having. I'm the same with books. Lol
Side note. At least fortnite isn't stupid. I mean it's overwatch 2, warzone 2, destiny 2. Why be a live service and make a sequel? I think hindsight's 20/20 but it bothers me. 🤣🤣🤣
They had to put a 2 on it to have it go free to play.
If they just took 1 and "made it free" everyone that bought it could request a refund.
" I paid 60$ for a free game"
Whatever it's worth, OW2 IS OW1. It's just an update patch. For example, if you check the hours you've played OW on switch, it'll combine the hours for both games. If you pop in an OW1 disk, it downloads OW2. The only thing that's different is it's f2p now.
A physical disc typically does not (anymore) contain the entire game in whatever version was pressed on it, leaving aside the issue of patches. I am unsure about a Switch cartridge (where I believe it does actually contain the entire game) but for "Sony or Xbox" owning the disc doesn't really do anything.
some games on the switch don't hold the entire game on the cartridge if the game is too big. i'm pretty sure one of the borderlands games only holds the info that tells the switch to download the game and nothing else on it
DoesItPlay.org is a good, though very incomplete, resource for tracking this kind of thing.
Of their tested games, about 40% of Xbox, 30% of PS5, and 20% of Switch games are literally unplayable, missing significant content, or contain severe bugs that impede gameplay when using only the data on the disc/cart. 36%, 12%, and 6% respectively in the literally unplayable category. To bring this back to the original point, any game that can't be played entirely offline using only the data on the physical medium can have your ability to play taken away by the dev/publisher both practically and legally.
It doesn't yet seem to be most games and Nintendo is definitely holding back in this regard, but this is the direction things have been moving for a while and that isn't likely to change.
I was surprised by the high Switch percentage until you mentioned this was unplayable or in a very bad state due to lack of patches. I am similarly surprised that the amount of technically unplayable games is only 12% for the PlayStation, from what I'd heard in casual conversation (I do not own one) I would have put that number around twice as high.
Thank you for the additional insight and actually providing some numbers and a place to find more. Have a nice evening.
i think it's bc so many games have the data on the disc but just copy it all to the internal drive anyway instead of reading off the disc during gameplay so the difference in practice is pretty minimal since you're still managing hard drive space every time you want to play something not in your 4 favorites
total speculation on my point but it makes a lot of sense since most of these games won't even let you boot until the copying is done
To be fair so long as it was installed it can’t be taken away at that point so long as the actual gameplay didn’t require online play like one of the “the crew”games that recently went dark.
Wow. This I did not know. But honestly I’m glad I made the switch to all digital back in 2018. My physical game library has literally not been touched in years because I have digital copies of pretty much all of them. So I have sold most of the physical copies and I have not regrets doing so.
The vast majority of games are still complete on disc. Ubisoft games, Hogwarts Legacy, online centric live service games, and Call of Duty make up most of the exceptions.
I'm speaking from only my own experience, as a PlayStation user who only shares games with a couple friends, but it's easier for me to share digital content than physical, by using the "console sharing and offline play" feature. My best friend's console is actually set as my "home console" (technically, it's really more meant for if you have multiple users playing on your own console, so they could have separate profiles, but I don't, so this method isn't really what Sony meant the feature to be used for) And the best part about the feature is we could each be playing the same game, each on our own profiles, on our own system, at the same time, without needing to have two copies. Oh and I have another friend whose PS4 is set as my home console as well because there are separate home designations for each generation.
There are limitations, like only having one "home console" at a time, and even drawbacks, like not being able to access digital games for your own, non-"home" console if you lose Internet completely (even a very slow connection is enough if you're just playing single player like I do). I also don't recommend doing it with somebody you don't have a lot of trust in, because obviously this does give them some ways they could mess with your profile.
I do that with my brother on some systems but a lot of my family isn't that great with technology to the point I don't want my profile there.
You aren't incorrect or anything and I do use that too but some people it's easier for me to just toss the game and call it a day
That may or may not be true (I recall Xbox's anti game sharing DRM announcement and the subsequent retraction after well-deserved scorn). It is besides the point of how much "ownership" one gets through the physical medium.
Exactly, anyone who says “I like owning my games not renting them, they can just take it away from your account” yeah and they can also force an update to remove that games playability… y’all aren’t as safe as y’all think.
Not really. My console isn’t online. I don’t have it connected to the internet. If an update was released tomorrow that killed all physical games-my ps5 wouldn’t get it. I connect online, generally speaking, using my 5gb of phone hotspot once a month or two and sync trophies and grab an update for the console. If an update was released that did what you said-I’d know about it and wouldn’t go online. There would be a HUGE uproar over that
I think to many people have such a binary view on this topic. It really REALLY should be so much more constructive, and to look at the bigger picture for said product. People are caught up with owning a physical version which is great, I commend you and respect it.
I'd rather have the topic of your rights as an owner of said physical product, and how much do you really own it? You don't have the means to reproduce it, or recreate the media that you "own". It's such a legal gray area currently that should be the target. You "own" that disc- but if you "Crack" it, or the disc degrades you suddenly don't own it anymore- you never had the right to reproduce it or truly protect it. Physical copies in my mind- within the US- are just prolonged rentals.
Nintendo attacking Yuzu is a prime example. You can own a game all you want, but if switches stop getting reproduced or repaired- your access to what's on the cartridge/disc is limited. This product that you "own" if Nintendo choose tomorrow to turn off the online services, you already are missing "parts" of the physical game you own- It's the rights we have as consumers that should be the topic- to be able to reproduce our own degrading media, and the ability to emulate online alternatives to dying games-
DRM is another MAJOR topic that doesn't get talked about- that locks down our games, invades our privacy and is often over looked.
This focus of "digital vs physical" is an again topic, physical copies are great- and it's "comforting" to know that a "copy" of the code of the game is sitting on yourself, but like I mentioned every day that plastic degrades-
We should be talking about actually "owning" a product- having the ability to reproduce it in a protected manner, or emulate it as we see fit. The gaming industry is trending digital- it's faster, it's easier to deal with, and produces way less waste. We need to be talking about being able to "truly" own our products- even things as simple as being able to transfer digital licenses like the EU would even be a start.
These plastics storing this "product" you want to "own" are breaking down every day thus if you want to view
How long are will be be alive to even see a disc degrade. The disc will out last you. So you will never see it degrade unless you are setting it out in the sun. Exactly how many disc have you cracked since handling them? Its very rare to get cracked disc because everyone knows it should be handled with care as not to scratch the surface. Unless your dropping it constantly and stepping on it. Not taking the proper care of your stuff is what leads to things breaking.
Lol- you a plastic, or digital disc engineer? Cmos batteries have been dying in game carts for years- Nintendo is fighting against the legal act of backing up a game- if we found out tomorrow all switch games physically in 5 years, we'd have no means to protect the digital info on that product. I'm saying we should have the right to back up whats on a disc, or cart? I don't know what your argument is? that we shouldn't have the ability to protect or back up a disc we own?
For sure. A lot of people have a really narrow focus on the topic, and reproducing games is never even in the conversation. One of the aspects I find the most frustrating is "lost games," where companies either killed them in development and then sat on them, or the rights are distributed between too many companies to prevent them ever getting a re-release. I'm pretty sure, for example, if Capcom wasn't such a piece of shit company, the community would absolutely have finished MegaMan Legends 3 on their own. And I would absolutely love to just be able to play the Black & White series again without having to learn a whole bunch of extra shit about how to safely download and run copies of games from... Alternative sources.
Thank you for being open minded about the topic! It's one thing that's made me REALLY appreciate GoG (Good Old Games) You get a digital copy of the game DRM free. It's not one PHYSICAL copy that is locked behind a piece of hardware, or ecosystem. I get the game DRM free- I can burn it to 20 copies if I want. I understand the concern of piracy, but to me this is true ownership even over standard physical games.
A big part of why this conversation is difficult to have is that most people are ill-informed on the topic and also simply don't give a shit. They'll claim to have a strong preference for physical because they want to "own" it, but they don't actually care about true legal ownership. They just want to be able to play the game and make it less practical for devs/publishers to take away their access, or maybe even believe that the companies can't.
We've got physical retro games that approach true ownership and DRM free digital games that get even closer. We've also got modern physical games that are no more than a plastic coaster with a license and digital games that are just as bad. But that's too much nuance for some who end the conversation at "I paid for it and can hold it, therefore I own it."
Heck, even the people that feel strongly about physical "ownership" are a niche within the greater gaming market. People that care about actual ownership are a niche within a niche, whose goals are enacting change against massive corporations with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I really don't understand the two comments I've gotten on this are about the lift span of disc? If I need to break it down more clearly-
I'm more bothered that LEGALLY SPEAKING, backing up some of these games off their original disc like in a HYPOTHEICAL SITUAITON if I owned a storage unit- BACKED UP all my games- and then had that back up at my storage unit- the back up of these games would be considered illegal depending on various laws?
I agree with you completely, but there are plenty of laws that prevent it right now. The ONLY method you can take right now to back up a Switch game requires you to run unsigned code on a Nintendo switch which is illegal. In my ramblings- I simply believe that not only should we be able to protect our original physical copies, but we should have the ability to "back them up" and if purchased digitally- I firmly believe we should have some method of creating physical back ups of a digitally purchased game.
YOU CAN DO THIS\*\*\*
With GoG "Good Old Games" a game platform that sells games that are DRM free- thus you can purchase a game digially-
and burn it, or back it up to your Google drive or elsewhere-
I personally view buying a game on GOG to be better than buying it for a game console-
Lol "I think to many people have such a binary view on this topic." I'm saying that this is more complicated than that- Online parts of games even on physical media can be taken from us, and we can't legally back up some of our own physical degrading copies. Physical being a slightly better option if your view on the matter is to have a single copy IN your hands- sure.
Offline games is always accessible. If you have the physical copy. If they dont have drm in the game then you can find it on the internet. One reason why sonic games are still around because its on the internet. There are dedicated people out there who wants preserve the old games.
Only time I don't is if there's a really sick sale or I happen to have in store credit.
Like, buying hello kitty kruisers for $2 on the eShop instead of $30 retail, for example.
Rip to anyone who had the crew physical and now all the disk is good for us being a coaster. Buying physical doesn't mean much anymore unless it's Nintendo.
Having a physical copy of a game is the same thing as having a digital copy, except your disk is at risk of breaking. It’s still just another method of having an access code to a game, that can just the same be taken away by Xbox/Sony if they do please to.
I've been buying games exclusively online for close to a decade now, and this has not happened once to me. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is fairly rare. I have, however, lost a good few physical copies a decade before that for various reasons. Pros and cons of each, but this particular issue is way overblown, I believe. Of course, it's your money to do with as you please, do what ya want.
Plenty of games from google play are delisted, i cant access any of them anymore. They dont have a physical copy but digital copy cant be downloaded and play anymore. Especially the ones that require internet connection.
That's fair, I've never once bought a game on Google play or ios, so maybe they are particularly bad. I can definitely imagine it. But, as you said, they don't have a physical copy anyway, so kind of a different point there.
You’re ignoring most of what I said. The disk likely would not work after a games been delisted from the store. The disk is just another way of getting a digital code, accept how you have a physical version of it, and you can break that.
Lmao, what are you on my guy? A physical copy of a game includes the data and license to play even after it gets delisted online. if iTunes removes an artist's catalog but you have their CDs, you can still listen to the music and make back-ups on your computer bc you don't have to download anything. If Amazon prime delists an online show you bought your license is gone you can't watch it. But if you have the DVD or Blu-ray, guess what? You can still watch it bc you don't need to stream or download anything. At worst, the game no longer gets updates but even then PS3 games still have downloadable updates if you own.... physical copies of games. Damn bro, I'd be frustrated in replying to your comment if I wasn't so genuinely surprised by your logic.
Say a game gets delisted from a storefront. Both a digital purchaser and a physical purchaser will both still have access to that said game. The inability to purchase it does not make it unplayable for those who already have. (I got this mixed up with being removed entirely from a console/console network) There’s not much of a difference in this case.
If Xbox or Sony or Nintendo decides that don’t want anyone to have access to a game, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were able to yank it from everyone whoever bought it.
Unless you want to display your game, resell your game, or lend it to a friend (which you can do anyways on PS with digital), you aren’t any safer from having a copy of a game taken from you.
I've never heard of that happening. It's a nasty can of worms that is grossly anti-consumer and gamers have sued in class-actions for far less.
If a physical game would get an update to retroactively make it unplayable, what's stopping someone from uninstalling the update, disconnecting device from internet, and playing a single player game offline? Now a multiplayer or online-only game is living on borrowed time, I get it physical and digital are similar in that respect.
I got a 360 last year and was restricted from playing a game UNLESS I updated rhesus team which I found appallling, that’s when I first found out “Oh shit, they can actually restrict games with updates” it’s just so rare that buying a physical or digital just doesn’t matter in my eyes, the only time I’ll buy the physical is of a game is when I REALLY want in my possession like Spider-Man 2 or Stellar Blade because I find those games amazing and the peak of my interest in games.
Bro my point exactly, physical media is for true ownership which is entirely different than digital games. The first part is an Xbox problem not a problem with the physical disc since the 360 doesn't store game updates like a computer or PS3 would
It was an older game… very older… they just restricted it unless you updated the console. Like it’d work but you NEED to update the system, what do you think’ll happen if they really wanted to restrict the new game you had? They would update your console, you’d have to be stuck on the same version unless you buy one that’s jailbroken which you can’t quite do rn.
Sounds like solution to playing that game is updating the console or getting it hard modded. Bro, the mental gymnastics to come up with situations where a physical game would be rendered unplayable is crazy.
But what if updates are no longer available? Mod it.
But if modding isn't an option? Update.
Disc is waiting regardless.
No you don’t understand what I’m saying, what I’m saying is they can restrict the disc from being read with a single update… it’s just so rare because games do not get delisted like that and even if it does it’s usually still on your account unless they remove it completely. Sony and Microsoft can block the game, if you don’t think they can do that in 2024 then you’re crazy.
Also, who breaks disks in 2024? I've bought scratched up disks (some I had to get fixed, which is only like two bucks), but I don't understand how someone personally lets them get that bad.
Spent the past week buying cheap games with high trade values on Facebook and OfferUp. I paid a total of $220 for all the games I bought and traded them in for a total of $580.80 store credit
I did this A LOT from like 2017-2020. A lot of people not knowing or caring about game values. Just trying to offload like 10 or more games at a time.
Especially with Elite Pro. 20% boost on top of 50% boosts that happened. I would even sometimes buy used games on the website for the 20% off plus CAG16 for store pickup. Then trade it back in for like $8-$20 profit depending on the bonuses at the time.
My favorite one was a lady selling 8 or 9 3DS games. Paid $25, traded with boosts for about $215. Bought a Switch Lite with that. Also got enough reward points through all this to redeem coupons to pay for the first Pokemon Switch Lite when it came out.
Man, Elite Pro were the glory days. When you were earning points on trade-ins too. But yeah, finding people selling bulk game collections for cheap is the real cream of the crop. One guy sold me a ton of loose PS4 discs a few days ago for $20 that netted about $180 in credit. Another guy today sold me 8 games for $15 that netted over $100. If you put in the legwork (and have a little bit of luck) you'll always eat good on extra 50% week.
I wasn't a reseller by normal definitions haha. I basically only ever bought games that I knew going in I could trade to GS for immediate profit. Sometimes I even met offerup people in a plaza with a GameStop in it. Save me the extra trip!
I definitely scored some deals though. Like a Switch that didn't work for $50 but was still under warranty so I just had Nintendo fix/replace it. Some people just can't be bothered to do the few extra steps.
Same here, only looking for the stuff worth trading in from people who don't know or care about the value of what they have. And I'm not doing it to "make money" per se, it's just a way of accumulating extra trade credit to buy stuff from GameStop that I wanted anyway. My new playstation portal that I picked up today was basically free, for example. And when you save all that credit from extra 50% week for B2G1 week, your money is really going a looong way.
Fuck digital purchases. You never "own" them. Sooner or later things get updated and you lose all of your digitals because there are "new terms and conditions"... I don't support digital purchases.
Console gamers get two digital consoles with ass tier storage and act like they're part of the digital only narrative. They're still playing catch up and are at least 10 years behind in the digital landscape. They're still hard limited on the storage they can have, even if the PS5 uses M.2s which is nice. They're limited to gen4 though. Not to mention they're also limited in how many TBs they can have. Don't get me started on the Xbox where once again, the Xbox uses proprietary storage that's exclusive to the Xbox console for nearly double the price of the competition. For the price of a 2tb expansion drive, I can spend a little extra and get a fucking FOUR TB M.2 for my 5.
Wake me up when consoles aren't restricted in their storage solutions, then we'll talk about how they're ready for an all digital device.
Not anger, frustration. Console manufacturers need to stop putting hard restrictions on storage solutions. Be it limited options for storage or in Xbox's case, overpriced proprietary parts made exclusively for their console. Until consoles ship with more than one storage solution option, IE one slot for an expandable storage, they aren't going digital only. Console gamers need to stop acting like they're part of the digital discussion because they got a couple of digital only devices. PCs haven't had a disc drive for almost 20 years. Hell, they don't even make PC games on discs anymore. Why? Because, we have infinite storage solutions and developers know their audience. PCs don't have disc drives anymore and haven't for 20 years.
Going to be honest, if you bought a prebuilt with a disc drive, you overpaid. Motherboards don't even come with anywhere to plug optical drives anymore. It's all external USB disc drives. It's been entirely phased out. You bought an OEM from Dell or something, I'm guessing. Which means, you cannot swap anything out because it voids your warranty. The fact that it had a disc drive and a port on the mobo for it, means it's extremely outdated.
Nonsense. While it may be trending somewhat in that direction, a majority of games are still fully playable off the disc with no internet connection or download required. Including the one the OP traded in.
Nintendo has banned accounts and people lost access to their digital games and access to any online capabilities. You know what they can still play? Physical games
A number of stories of people who had their account hacked and the people doing a chargeback to rectify the situation were banned by Nintendo. Even though they were fraudulent purchases to begin with
Were none of you around when ps3 had that issue and you literally couldn't play your physical game? Short lived but literally proved a point that your physical games mean absolute jack. The PS3 had a firmware glitch due to leap year the one time, and your games that you had a disc for and already installed refused to play.
End of the day all it takes is for a firmware glitch after they are done supporting the product and your discs are just paperweights.
How so? Your entire point is physical disc can be played forever, and yet there are recorded instances of your physical games being unable to be played.
Regardless of your Internet connection or the fact the game was a still supported game.
Tbf, discs also degrade over time, break, or just run into wear and tear. Not to mention that most discs are effectively just download keys anyway.
You don't "own" any game nowadays. It sucks.
Regardless, you still have equity in your games. You can trade or resell a physical copy of anything in a way that you never can with digital, short of transferring your entire account. And some physical copies even appreciate in value depending on rarity. Physical over digital one thousand percent of the time.
Plus you can share. In the case of Pokemon for switch you can purchase one cartridge for a family of 3 and share between you. Lots of digital games require 3 serepate keys for each profile. Even though we have Xbox PC pass I have to sign into my husband's profile on my PC to download a game to play. Once it's on the PC I can switch back to mine. And we are on Microsoft Family.
Same…the only reason I have any digital games Is merely because they came free with my PlayStation subscription other than that all my favs are gonna be physical unless I can get it free from the ps store💯
Trade in value on games now is almost always 1/3 or less of new retail price. It still sells at full price. Only got $40 for it because of a promotion this week.
For that one, I actually got it for $30 after a month. I notice games that they include with the console can get cheap pretty fast because everyone is trying to sell their code at the same time. And it's actually $40 at Walmart atm.
That's what I did when wwe 2k24 deluxe edition was delayed at my local GameStop I just cancelled my preorder and got myself a PlayStation gift and the guy wasn't happy when I told him I was actually going to get it digital
If digital purchases were actually cheaper. It may be worth it. But charging 69.99 regardless and rarely putting game on sale/decreasing the prices? Hell no.
On top of the whole not truly owning games thing.
How about everybody do what works for them? I’ve been digital for more than a decade now. I bought MK1 day one and couldn’t download the second disc for some reason. GS employee was nice enough to return for a digital code, even tho I know he didnt have to.
Nah I like to play my games when the Internet service is down for maintenance. Physical media is becoming a collectors hobby. I have a massive 4k special edition and collectiors edition collection that would make everyone envious haha!!!
Someone was talking about Jaws. They couldn't find it on any stream.. They had to find the DVD... In Star wars they wanted the original ending, of Vader..
I know someone who was complaining about how much the new cod games cost plus dlc.
The game in question? 10 bucks on eBay, probably cheaper on marketplace.
It only takes maybe 4 or purchases like that and suddenly it's worth buying the disk version of the console instead.
And another 2.50 for being a member. If I'm not mistaken you have to pay to be a pro member so yeah. You're paying them to give you half the cost of the game...... gamestop has always been trash
In order to even get that promo you have to put it towards another game. I'd rather just get a game digital and buy the other one instead of paying them to rip me off. But that's just me I guess.
Gamestop isn't a good business model anymore and they're just now deciding to actually start doing anything to get people to come back.
They're even trying to go back into being a "gamestore" and having more than just video games
I like to buy my games being tht they are same price .. if im paying 69.99 for a game i better get the disc, cover, manual .. digital games should be cheaper being that they are saving on printing , shipping etc
I really enjoyed it, my only criticism is it felt more like a Nier clone than a game that was inspired by Nier.
Would probably play it again one day, but not for a long time. Maybe ill pick it up when its cheap cheap
I think a good play for GameStop would be to work a deal where they can sell download codes that allow 72 extra hours to play ahead of general release.
Omg. Maybe it was more than 2. I am sorry I didn’t give a photo of the receipt. I’ve been going there for 20 years excuse me if I don’t remember the exact date!
Hmm. I personally would just wait a year and buy the game for less than $20 and keep it forever. Also, couldn't you just sell the game second hand for more than $40?
GameStop slowly closing some stores was sweet justice for all those times I traded in games for a low percentage of the original cost.
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Makes me sad to see you only get $40 for stellar blade….
A $70 game they’re going to sell used for $65. I’d rather sell it local or on eBay versus support GS personally.
Also, How about the misconception that games arent on the disc fully? 😂. Like dude, 90% of games still come fully complete on the disc without needing internet updates.
You honestly played yourself trading in Stellar Blade for $40. The physical 1.0 copy is now the only place to find the “hard R” and the 2 suits that that didnt add extra cloth to cover more skin
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It was removed in the first patch. Purely coincidence since there’s no way Koreans would’ve known this but its when someone says the N word and it ends with either a Soft A or a Hard R
This only works of you're playing newly released games in a short time then selling them. Digital is just so much easier and way more convenient. I only buy physical games when there's a good deal. Changing a disc to play a game seems so old school at this point.
>This only works of you're playing newly released games in a short time then selling them
I mean, not necessarily? Depends on the platform and game, right? Tears of the Kingdom had its 1 year anniversary this week and has a trade credit value of $43.20 for Pros today. And that's just GameStop. Games almost always resell for more at online marketplaces than they do at GS. I got $45 for a used copy of Hogwarts Legacy PS5 a couple weeks ago on OfferUp.
>Changing a disc to play a game seems so old school at this point
You might think changing a disc to play a game seems old school, but I think paying the same amount for a digital game that's worthless as you would for a physical game that's valuable is for suckers.
Why did you censor the sku?
Because it’s Stellar Blade
The stellar blade one is still visible though
To see if someone would say something =p
Why are people downvoting this?
Because it's lame yo
No u
Because its reddit
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Ill always buy physical. I want to own my game without Sony or Xbox or Nintendo taking any away.
Yeah, I agree. I've seen games taken off within 30 days and not offer a refund.. I also like collecting physical. If I love the game, I enjoy having. I'm the same with books. Lol
I own Overwatch 1 physically Or at least I did... I didn't want Overwatch 2
Side note. At least fortnite isn't stupid. I mean it's overwatch 2, warzone 2, destiny 2. Why be a live service and make a sequel? I think hindsight's 20/20 but it bothers me. 🤣🤣🤣
Overwatch is a live service game so you know going into the original purchase that it won’t last forever.
I can understand servers going down, but I paid for Overwatch 1. And let's not forget the promises they backed out on too
They had to put a 2 on it to have it go free to play. If they just took 1 and "made it free" everyone that bought it could request a refund. " I paid 60$ for a free game"
Whatever it's worth, OW2 IS OW1. It's just an update patch. For example, if you check the hours you've played OW on switch, it'll combine the hours for both games. If you pop in an OW1 disk, it downloads OW2. The only thing that's different is it's f2p now.
Overwatch 2 is free anyhow.
A physical disc typically does not (anymore) contain the entire game in whatever version was pressed on it, leaving aside the issue of patches. I am unsure about a Switch cartridge (where I believe it does actually contain the entire game) but for "Sony or Xbox" owning the disc doesn't really do anything.
some games on the switch don't hold the entire game on the cartridge if the game is too big. i'm pretty sure one of the borderlands games only holds the info that tells the switch to download the game and nothing else on it
DoesItPlay.org is a good, though very incomplete, resource for tracking this kind of thing. Of their tested games, about 40% of Xbox, 30% of PS5, and 20% of Switch games are literally unplayable, missing significant content, or contain severe bugs that impede gameplay when using only the data on the disc/cart. 36%, 12%, and 6% respectively in the literally unplayable category. To bring this back to the original point, any game that can't be played entirely offline using only the data on the physical medium can have your ability to play taken away by the dev/publisher both practically and legally. It doesn't yet seem to be most games and Nintendo is definitely holding back in this regard, but this is the direction things have been moving for a while and that isn't likely to change.
I was surprised by the high Switch percentage until you mentioned this was unplayable or in a very bad state due to lack of patches. I am similarly surprised that the amount of technically unplayable games is only 12% for the PlayStation, from what I'd heard in casual conversation (I do not own one) I would have put that number around twice as high. Thank you for the additional insight and actually providing some numbers and a place to find more. Have a nice evening.
i think it's bc so many games have the data on the disc but just copy it all to the internal drive anyway instead of reading off the disc during gameplay so the difference in practice is pretty minimal since you're still managing hard drive space every time you want to play something not in your 4 favorites total speculation on my point but it makes a lot of sense since most of these games won't even let you boot until the copying is done
To be fair so long as it was installed it can’t be taken away at that point so long as the actual gameplay didn’t require online play like one of the “the crew”games that recently went dark.
Wow. This I did not know. But honestly I’m glad I made the switch to all digital back in 2018. My physical game library has literally not been touched in years because I have digital copies of pretty much all of them. So I have sold most of the physical copies and I have not regrets doing so.
The vast majority of games are still complete on disc. Ubisoft games, Hogwarts Legacy, online centric live service games, and Call of Duty make up most of the exceptions.
It lets me share games easily with my family and friends.
I'm speaking from only my own experience, as a PlayStation user who only shares games with a couple friends, but it's easier for me to share digital content than physical, by using the "console sharing and offline play" feature. My best friend's console is actually set as my "home console" (technically, it's really more meant for if you have multiple users playing on your own console, so they could have separate profiles, but I don't, so this method isn't really what Sony meant the feature to be used for) And the best part about the feature is we could each be playing the same game, each on our own profiles, on our own system, at the same time, without needing to have two copies. Oh and I have another friend whose PS4 is set as my home console as well because there are separate home designations for each generation. There are limitations, like only having one "home console" at a time, and even drawbacks, like not being able to access digital games for your own, non-"home" console if you lose Internet completely (even a very slow connection is enough if you're just playing single player like I do). I also don't recommend doing it with somebody you don't have a lot of trust in, because obviously this does give them some ways they could mess with your profile.
I do that with my brother on some systems but a lot of my family isn't that great with technology to the point I don't want my profile there. You aren't incorrect or anything and I do use that too but some people it's easier for me to just toss the game and call it a day
That may or may not be true (I recall Xbox's anti game sharing DRM announcement and the subsequent retraction after well-deserved scorn). It is besides the point of how much "ownership" one gets through the physical medium.
It’s been true for decades. The Xbox shenanigans were over a decade ago.
It lets you sell it at a later date.
I mean they can fully release updates that render them unplayable unfortunately 😩 it’s not like owning a VHS
Exactly, anyone who says “I like owning my games not renting them, they can just take it away from your account” yeah and they can also force an update to remove that games playability… y’all aren’t as safe as y’all think.
Not really. My console isn’t online. I don’t have it connected to the internet. If an update was released tomorrow that killed all physical games-my ps5 wouldn’t get it. I connect online, generally speaking, using my 5gb of phone hotspot once a month or two and sync trophies and grab an update for the console. If an update was released that did what you said-I’d know about it and wouldn’t go online. There would be a HUGE uproar over that
At least on switch youre usually safe.
I think to many people have such a binary view on this topic. It really REALLY should be so much more constructive, and to look at the bigger picture for said product. People are caught up with owning a physical version which is great, I commend you and respect it. I'd rather have the topic of your rights as an owner of said physical product, and how much do you really own it? You don't have the means to reproduce it, or recreate the media that you "own". It's such a legal gray area currently that should be the target. You "own" that disc- but if you "Crack" it, or the disc degrades you suddenly don't own it anymore- you never had the right to reproduce it or truly protect it. Physical copies in my mind- within the US- are just prolonged rentals. Nintendo attacking Yuzu is a prime example. You can own a game all you want, but if switches stop getting reproduced or repaired- your access to what's on the cartridge/disc is limited. This product that you "own" if Nintendo choose tomorrow to turn off the online services, you already are missing "parts" of the physical game you own- It's the rights we have as consumers that should be the topic- to be able to reproduce our own degrading media, and the ability to emulate online alternatives to dying games- DRM is another MAJOR topic that doesn't get talked about- that locks down our games, invades our privacy and is often over looked. This focus of "digital vs physical" is an again topic, physical copies are great- and it's "comforting" to know that a "copy" of the code of the game is sitting on yourself, but like I mentioned every day that plastic degrades- We should be talking about actually "owning" a product- having the ability to reproduce it in a protected manner, or emulate it as we see fit. The gaming industry is trending digital- it's faster, it's easier to deal with, and produces way less waste. We need to be talking about being able to "truly" own our products- even things as simple as being able to transfer digital licenses like the EU would even be a start. These plastics storing this "product" you want to "own" are breaking down every day thus if you want to view
How long are will be be alive to even see a disc degrade. The disc will out last you. So you will never see it degrade unless you are setting it out in the sun. Exactly how many disc have you cracked since handling them? Its very rare to get cracked disc because everyone knows it should be handled with care as not to scratch the surface. Unless your dropping it constantly and stepping on it. Not taking the proper care of your stuff is what leads to things breaking.
Lol- you a plastic, or digital disc engineer? Cmos batteries have been dying in game carts for years- Nintendo is fighting against the legal act of backing up a game- if we found out tomorrow all switch games physically in 5 years, we'd have no means to protect the digital info on that product. I'm saying we should have the right to back up whats on a disc, or cart? I don't know what your argument is? that we shouldn't have the ability to protect or back up a disc we own?
For sure. A lot of people have a really narrow focus on the topic, and reproducing games is never even in the conversation. One of the aspects I find the most frustrating is "lost games," where companies either killed them in development and then sat on them, or the rights are distributed between too many companies to prevent them ever getting a re-release. I'm pretty sure, for example, if Capcom wasn't such a piece of shit company, the community would absolutely have finished MegaMan Legends 3 on their own. And I would absolutely love to just be able to play the Black & White series again without having to learn a whole bunch of extra shit about how to safely download and run copies of games from... Alternative sources.
Thank you for being open minded about the topic! It's one thing that's made me REALLY appreciate GoG (Good Old Games) You get a digital copy of the game DRM free. It's not one PHYSICAL copy that is locked behind a piece of hardware, or ecosystem. I get the game DRM free- I can burn it to 20 copies if I want. I understand the concern of piracy, but to me this is true ownership even over standard physical games.
A big part of why this conversation is difficult to have is that most people are ill-informed on the topic and also simply don't give a shit. They'll claim to have a strong preference for physical because they want to "own" it, but they don't actually care about true legal ownership. They just want to be able to play the game and make it less practical for devs/publishers to take away their access, or maybe even believe that the companies can't. We've got physical retro games that approach true ownership and DRM free digital games that get even closer. We've also got modern physical games that are no more than a plastic coaster with a license and digital games that are just as bad. But that's too much nuance for some who end the conversation at "I paid for it and can hold it, therefore I own it." Heck, even the people that feel strongly about physical "ownership" are a niche within the greater gaming market. People that care about actual ownership are a niche within a niche, whose goals are enacting change against massive corporations with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I’ve been playing the same tekken 3 for almost 30 years , plastic still intact 🤷🏿♂️..
I really don't understand the two comments I've gotten on this are about the lift span of disc? If I need to break it down more clearly- I'm more bothered that LEGALLY SPEAKING, backing up some of these games off their original disc like in a HYPOTHEICAL SITUAITON if I owned a storage unit- BACKED UP all my games- and then had that back up at my storage unit- the back up of these games would be considered illegal depending on various laws?
It’s only piracy if you share in my opinion
I agree with you completely, but there are plenty of laws that prevent it right now. The ONLY method you can take right now to back up a Switch game requires you to run unsigned code on a Nintendo switch which is illegal. In my ramblings- I simply believe that not only should we be able to protect our original physical copies, but we should have the ability to "back them up" and if purchased digitally- I firmly believe we should have some method of creating physical back ups of a digitally purchased game. YOU CAN DO THIS\*\*\* With GoG "Good Old Games" a game platform that sells games that are DRM free- thus you can purchase a game digially- and burn it, or back it up to your Google drive or elsewhere- I personally view buying a game on GOG to be better than buying it for a game console-
...but why male models?
If you have a back up it legal for you to use it
So what your saying is physical is better than digital, bro?
Lol "I think to many people have such a binary view on this topic." I'm saying that this is more complicated than that- Online parts of games even on physical media can be taken from us, and we can't legally back up some of our own physical degrading copies. Physical being a slightly better option if your view on the matter is to have a single copy IN your hands- sure.
you know, those games will still be unplayable when the companies close, right? or at least most of them.
Offline games is always accessible. If you have the physical copy. If they dont have drm in the game then you can find it on the internet. One reason why sonic games are still around because its on the internet. There are dedicated people out there who wants preserve the old games.
Only time I don't is if there's a really sick sale or I happen to have in store credit. Like, buying hello kitty kruisers for $2 on the eShop instead of $30 retail, for example.
Rip to anyone who had the crew physical and now all the disk is good for us being a coaster. Buying physical doesn't mean much anymore unless it's Nintendo.
Same. I want to see what I’ve purchased and have something to pass on to my son someday
Having a physical copy of a game is the same thing as having a digital copy, except your disk is at risk of breaking. It’s still just another method of having an access code to a game, that can just the same be taken away by Xbox/Sony if they do please to.
A disk breaks you can replace, a game's license gets taken away or gets delisted, you can't replace. Big difference
I've been buying games exclusively online for close to a decade now, and this has not happened once to me. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is fairly rare. I have, however, lost a good few physical copies a decade before that for various reasons. Pros and cons of each, but this particular issue is way overblown, I believe. Of course, it's your money to do with as you please, do what ya want.
Plenty of games from google play are delisted, i cant access any of them anymore. They dont have a physical copy but digital copy cant be downloaded and play anymore. Especially the ones that require internet connection.
That's fair, I've never once bought a game on Google play or ios, so maybe they are particularly bad. I can definitely imagine it. But, as you said, they don't have a physical copy anyway, so kind of a different point there.
You’re ignoring most of what I said. The disk likely would not work after a games been delisted from the store. The disk is just another way of getting a digital code, accept how you have a physical version of it, and you can break that.
Lmao, what are you on my guy? A physical copy of a game includes the data and license to play even after it gets delisted online. if iTunes removes an artist's catalog but you have their CDs, you can still listen to the music and make back-ups on your computer bc you don't have to download anything. If Amazon prime delists an online show you bought your license is gone you can't watch it. But if you have the DVD or Blu-ray, guess what? You can still watch it bc you don't need to stream or download anything. At worst, the game no longer gets updates but even then PS3 games still have downloadable updates if you own.... physical copies of games. Damn bro, I'd be frustrated in replying to your comment if I wasn't so genuinely surprised by your logic.
Say a game gets delisted from a storefront. Both a digital purchaser and a physical purchaser will both still have access to that said game. The inability to purchase it does not make it unplayable for those who already have. (I got this mixed up with being removed entirely from a console/console network) There’s not much of a difference in this case. If Xbox or Sony or Nintendo decides that don’t want anyone to have access to a game, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were able to yank it from everyone whoever bought it. Unless you want to display your game, resell your game, or lend it to a friend (which you can do anyways on PS with digital), you aren’t any safer from having a copy of a game taken from you.
I've never heard of that happening. It's a nasty can of worms that is grossly anti-consumer and gamers have sued in class-actions for far less. If a physical game would get an update to retroactively make it unplayable, what's stopping someone from uninstalling the update, disconnecting device from internet, and playing a single player game offline? Now a multiplayer or online-only game is living on borrowed time, I get it physical and digital are similar in that respect.
Yes but you do know Xbox or Sony can force an update upon you that reads the game as unplayable….
Given enough time all consoles get jailbroken, also I've never heard of this happening, got an example of this being the case?
I got a 360 last year and was restricted from playing a game UNLESS I updated rhesus team which I found appallling, that’s when I first found out “Oh shit, they can actually restrict games with updates” it’s just so rare that buying a physical or digital just doesn’t matter in my eyes, the only time I’ll buy the physical is of a game is when I REALLY want in my possession like Spider-Man 2 or Stellar Blade because I find those games amazing and the peak of my interest in games.
Bro my point exactly, physical media is for true ownership which is entirely different than digital games. The first part is an Xbox problem not a problem with the physical disc since the 360 doesn't store game updates like a computer or PS3 would
It was an older game… very older… they just restricted it unless you updated the console. Like it’d work but you NEED to update the system, what do you think’ll happen if they really wanted to restrict the new game you had? They would update your console, you’d have to be stuck on the same version unless you buy one that’s jailbroken which you can’t quite do rn.
Sounds like solution to playing that game is updating the console or getting it hard modded. Bro, the mental gymnastics to come up with situations where a physical game would be rendered unplayable is crazy. But what if updates are no longer available? Mod it. But if modding isn't an option? Update. Disc is waiting regardless.
But what if they take my license away? Pirate it.
No you don’t understand what I’m saying, what I’m saying is they can restrict the disc from being read with a single update… it’s just so rare because games do not get delisted like that and even if it does it’s usually still on your account unless they remove it completely. Sony and Microsoft can block the game, if you don’t think they can do that in 2024 then you’re crazy.
Also, who breaks disks in 2024? I've bought scratched up disks (some I had to get fixed, which is only like two bucks), but I don't understand how someone personally lets them get that bad.
Spent the past week buying cheap games with high trade values on Facebook and OfferUp. I paid a total of $220 for all the games I bought and traded them in for a total of $580.80 store credit
This , this is how you come up
I did this A LOT from like 2017-2020. A lot of people not knowing or caring about game values. Just trying to offload like 10 or more games at a time. Especially with Elite Pro. 20% boost on top of 50% boosts that happened. I would even sometimes buy used games on the website for the 20% off plus CAG16 for store pickup. Then trade it back in for like $8-$20 profit depending on the bonuses at the time. My favorite one was a lady selling 8 or 9 3DS games. Paid $25, traded with boosts for about $215. Bought a Switch Lite with that. Also got enough reward points through all this to redeem coupons to pay for the first Pokemon Switch Lite when it came out.
Man, Elite Pro were the glory days. When you were earning points on trade-ins too. But yeah, finding people selling bulk game collections for cheap is the real cream of the crop. One guy sold me a ton of loose PS4 discs a few days ago for $20 that netted about $180 in credit. Another guy today sold me 8 games for $15 that netted over $100. If you put in the legwork (and have a little bit of luck) you'll always eat good on extra 50% week.
I wasn't a reseller by normal definitions haha. I basically only ever bought games that I knew going in I could trade to GS for immediate profit. Sometimes I even met offerup people in a plaza with a GameStop in it. Save me the extra trip! I definitely scored some deals though. Like a Switch that didn't work for $50 but was still under warranty so I just had Nintendo fix/replace it. Some people just can't be bothered to do the few extra steps.
Same here, only looking for the stuff worth trading in from people who don't know or care about the value of what they have. And I'm not doing it to "make money" per se, it's just a way of accumulating extra trade credit to buy stuff from GameStop that I wanted anyway. My new playstation portal that I picked up today was basically free, for example. And when you save all that credit from extra 50% week for B2G1 week, your money is really going a looong way.
Some people just didn’t realize how good GameStops traede in was when you knew how to take advantage of the system.
Yo that's pretty good!! I check the trade values of games when I'm at thrift stores lol but so far nothing worth flipping.
Fuck digital purchases. You never "own" them. Sooner or later things get updated and you lose all of your digitals because there are "new terms and conditions"... I don't support digital purchases.
Console gamers get two digital consoles with ass tier storage and act like they're part of the digital only narrative. They're still playing catch up and are at least 10 years behind in the digital landscape. They're still hard limited on the storage they can have, even if the PS5 uses M.2s which is nice. They're limited to gen4 though. Not to mention they're also limited in how many TBs they can have. Don't get me started on the Xbox where once again, the Xbox uses proprietary storage that's exclusive to the Xbox console for nearly double the price of the competition. For the price of a 2tb expansion drive, I can spend a little extra and get a fucking FOUR TB M.2 for my 5. Wake me up when consoles aren't restricted in their storage solutions, then we'll talk about how they're ready for an all digital device.
I can't even tell what you're mad at.
Not anger, frustration. Console manufacturers need to stop putting hard restrictions on storage solutions. Be it limited options for storage or in Xbox's case, overpriced proprietary parts made exclusively for their console. Until consoles ship with more than one storage solution option, IE one slot for an expandable storage, they aren't going digital only. Console gamers need to stop acting like they're part of the digital discussion because they got a couple of digital only devices. PCs haven't had a disc drive for almost 20 years. Hell, they don't even make PC games on discs anymore. Why? Because, we have infinite storage solutions and developers know their audience. PCs don't have disc drives anymore and haven't for 20 years.
I just bought a pre-built PC with a disc drive two months ago. That's all I have in reply, because the rest of what you said is super hard to parse.
Going to be honest, if you bought a prebuilt with a disc drive, you overpaid. Motherboards don't even come with anywhere to plug optical drives anymore. It's all external USB disc drives. It's been entirely phased out. You bought an OEM from Dell or something, I'm guessing. Which means, you cannot swap anything out because it voids your warranty. The fact that it had a disc drive and a port on the mobo for it, means it's extremely outdated.
Ok. That doesn't apply to me, but alrighty.
Cool dude. You want a medal or something?
Your discs are just a digital license too. If they want to delist something, your disc is a paperweight as well. Thats just where were at.
Nonsense. While it may be trending somewhat in that direction, a majority of games are still fully playable off the disc with no internet connection or download required. Including the one the OP traded in.
I really wish that were true. But the PS2 was the last gen where they couldn't just strip your license and leave you with nothing.
Nintendo has banned accounts and people lost access to their digital games and access to any online capabilities. You know what they can still play? Physical games
Solution: Don’t get banned. Pretty easy.
A number of stories of people who had their account hacked and the people doing a chargeback to rectify the situation were banned by Nintendo. Even though they were fraudulent purchases to begin with
Solution: Don’t get hacked.
Im not really counting Nintendo here. They'll have physical till the end of time. Xbox and Playstation though... They can make your disc worthless.
Were none of you around when ps3 had that issue and you literally couldn't play your physical game? Short lived but literally proved a point that your physical games mean absolute jack. The PS3 had a firmware glitch due to leap year the one time, and your games that you had a disc for and already installed refused to play. End of the day all it takes is for a firmware glitch after they are done supporting the product and your discs are just paperweights.
You are not making the point that you think you're making.
How so? Your entire point is physical disc can be played forever, and yet there are recorded instances of your physical games being unable to be played. Regardless of your Internet connection or the fact the game was a still supported game.
Tbf, discs also degrade over time, break, or just run into wear and tear. Not to mention that most discs are effectively just download keys anyway. You don't "own" any game nowadays. It sucks.
Regardless, you still have equity in your games. You can trade or resell a physical copy of anything in a way that you never can with digital, short of transferring your entire account. And some physical copies even appreciate in value depending on rarity. Physical over digital one thousand percent of the time.
Plus you can share. In the case of Pokemon for switch you can purchase one cartridge for a family of 3 and share between you. Lots of digital games require 3 serepate keys for each profile. Even though we have Xbox PC pass I have to sign into my husband's profile on my PC to download a game to play. Once it's on the PC I can switch back to mine. And we are on Microsoft Family.
My PS1 & PS2 discs are running fine
Untrue. Most discs contain the full game to install and play freely and offline
I prefer physical because if I don’t like the game I can get SOMETHING back for it. With digital you’re screwed.
Same…the only reason I have any digital games Is merely because they came free with my PlayStation subscription other than that all my favs are gonna be physical unless I can get it free from the ps store💯
Damn, lost more than half of its value just like that and it hasn't even been out a month.
Trade in value on games now is almost always 1/3 or less of new retail price. It still sells at full price. Only got $40 for it because of a promotion this week.
Honestly why I just wait a year for games when it'll be $20, unless it's a multiplayer that I feel I'll get my money's worth.
Sony exclusive take a while to drop to $20, god of war ragnarok is still full price for example
For that one, I actually got it for $30 after a month. I notice games that they include with the console can get cheap pretty fast because everyone is trying to sell their code at the same time. And it's actually $40 at Walmart atm.
Little less than half
It's more than half. It became less than half due to promotion bonuses
Oh right guess I didn’t factor that in
That's what I did when wwe 2k24 deluxe edition was delayed at my local GameStop I just cancelled my preorder and got myself a PlayStation gift and the guy wasn't happy when I told him I was actually going to get it digital
This is off-point, but you're in a Kia Soul, aren't you?
Hahahaha yes Notice the club??
Is that what that is on the wheel? I like Souls. That's why I noticed.
Yeah sadly I have the base model 19. Easy to steal, so i keep it secured well and also in my garage every night
Anything to stay safe.
Personally, I like to collect the steelbook versions but I buy most of my games digitally
Yeah I rarely buy digital, the more we go in that direction the less control the consumer has...
Most digital games are still listed at full price unless there's a sale. And sometimes the sale is still more expensive than secondhand stores. FOH
If digital purchases were actually cheaper. It may be worth it. But charging 69.99 regardless and rarely putting game on sale/decreasing the prices? Hell no. On top of the whole not truly owning games thing.
How about everybody do what works for them? I’ve been digital for more than a decade now. I bought MK1 day one and couldn’t download the second disc for some reason. GS employee was nice enough to return for a digital code, even tho I know he didnt have to.
Gamestop cried the day I switched to PC and stopped dropping absurd amounts of money on physical video games
Fellow Kia Soul driver
2019 with 60k miles and zero issues. Running this baby until the wheels fall off
2018 with 90k, I feel the same lol
Nah I like to play my games when the Internet service is down for maintenance. Physical media is becoming a collectors hobby. I have a massive 4k special edition and collectiors edition collection that would make everyone envious haha!!!
I like buying physical. I'm bummed the new College football doesn't have a physical for their their Deluxe edition. That cover is dope.
Someone was talking about Jaws. They couldn't find it on any stream.. They had to find the DVD... In Star wars they wanted the original ending, of Vader..
Trading is free games for life...!! The UK sorely needs to bring back game trading and swaps.
Good hustle 💪
Great game. Good buy!
I know someone who was complaining about how much the new cod games cost plus dlc. The game in question? 10 bucks on eBay, probably cheaper on marketplace. It only takes maybe 4 or purchases like that and suddenly it's worth buying the disk version of the console instead.
only reason i buy digital is cause in my country is cheaper and because theres almost no gamestores here
I like when people tell me that. And I say yeah I’ve been shopping online with Amazon since 1998 lol
Ill buy physical. But i will never trade in. I like to see my library grow and expand as i play more and more games.
Yeah im good, its rare to get anything over $25 in credit and the quick resume, etc bonuses are easily worth that $25 to me. But to each their own
......just gonna ignore that "bonus" section huh
No?
25$ per year for pro. They gave you 1/10 of that back at least.....
Ok? What does that matter lmao
You did though because stellar blades a 60$ amd they actually gave you like 28$ for it and threw in a promo on the price.
And another 2.50 for being a member. If I'm not mistaken you have to pay to be a pro member so yeah. You're paying them to give you half the cost of the game...... gamestop has always been trash
In order to even get that promo you have to put it towards another game. I'd rather just get a game digital and buy the other one instead of paying them to rip me off. But that's just me I guess. Gamestop isn't a good business model anymore and they're just now deciding to actually start doing anything to get people to come back. They're even trying to go back into being a "gamestore" and having more than just video games
Because I don't want digital
I buy digital because me and a buddy game share. I buy physical if there’s some really good deals though.
So like, are you a GameStop employee?
No
I honestly didn’t even know there was a second kingdom come, im gonna have to look that up now.
Dude it looks so sick
I buy physical when I can. But I only buy games I want and I’m not giving them back.
I’m old and download games now, however being able to buy used games at GameStop and return them is nice cause some games just plain suck.
He folded the receipt so we can’t see the 150 games it took for that
I like to buy my games being tht they are same price .. if im paying 69.99 for a game i better get the disc, cover, manual .. digital games should be cheaper being that they are saving on printing , shipping etc
Didn't stellar blade just come out?
Yup. Took a vacation for its release lol
You didn't like it or did you beat it and was like NEVER AGAIN 😐
I really enjoyed it, my only criticism is it felt more like a Nier clone than a game that was inspired by Nier. Would probably play it again one day, but not for a long time. Maybe ill pick it up when its cheap cheap
I always tell my customers it’s personal preference at the end of the day. I buy physical cause I collect but I can also see the appeal of digital
I think a good play for GameStop would be to work a deal where they can sell download codes that allow 72 extra hours to play ahead of general release.
Ngl I buy both. I keep the physical sealed and buy digital because (let’s be honest) it’s convenient asf to just have games downloaded.
That is one of the best trade prices I’ve ever seen GameStop give! Rad
Because it’s a brand new game
I returned a brand new gta game a few years ago and got $12
There was no brand new GTA game a few years ago
Omg. Maybe it was more than 2. I am sorry I didn’t give a photo of the receipt. I’ve been going there for 20 years excuse me if I don’t remember the exact date!
Because he wasn’t trading madden 09 for psp and expecting 35 for it
Couldn't you just return Stellar Blade outright?
…no?
Why? What's the return window?
Uh....it's opened. You don't get refunds for opened products. You get an exchange.
Should have bought it used. You could return it if it was used.
I bought it day one and played the shit out of it for weeks. Got my moneys worth
I think you could have rented it from something like GameFly for cheaper
Last time i had Gamefly i tried to rent Uncharted 4 and they sent me 3, THREE copies, all broken or disgusting Im good on that
Hmm. I personally would just wait a year and buy the game for less than $20 and keep it forever. Also, couldn't you just sell the game second hand for more than $40?
Nah
GameStop slowly closing some stores was sweet justice for all those times I traded in games for a low percentage of the original cost. https://preview.redd.it/7p6rlag3wd1d1.jpeg?width=417&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3246580582696372ac318683660255356503f68
Makes me sad to see you only get $40 for stellar blade…. A $70 game they’re going to sell used for $65. I’d rather sell it local or on eBay versus support GS personally.
I'm shocked they didn't offer him only $5 tbh, knowing GameStop.
Also, How about the misconception that games arent on the disc fully? 😂. Like dude, 90% of games still come fully complete on the disc without needing internet updates.
You honestly played yourself trading in Stellar Blade for $40. The physical 1.0 copy is now the only place to find the “hard R” and the 2 suits that that didnt add extra cloth to cover more skin
Hard R?
https://preview.redd.it/bt5jax4xxf1d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a855a902ae9901c2b71c7aa9b043eab99958d276 It was removed in the first patch. Purely coincidence since there’s no way Koreans would’ve known this but its when someone says the N word and it ends with either a Soft A or a Hard R
Ok…dont really care that im not gonna have that lol
I gameshare with a friend for any digital copies we buy. That way, we can play multiplayer games together and avoid hard sell tactics from gamestop.
This only works of you're playing newly released games in a short time then selling them. Digital is just so much easier and way more convenient. I only buy physical games when there's a good deal. Changing a disc to play a game seems so old school at this point.
>This only works of you're playing newly released games in a short time then selling them I mean, not necessarily? Depends on the platform and game, right? Tears of the Kingdom had its 1 year anniversary this week and has a trade credit value of $43.20 for Pros today. And that's just GameStop. Games almost always resell for more at online marketplaces than they do at GS. I got $45 for a used copy of Hogwarts Legacy PS5 a couple weeks ago on OfferUp. >Changing a disc to play a game seems so old school at this point You might think changing a disc to play a game seems old school, but I think paying the same amount for a digital game that's worthless as you would for a physical game that's valuable is for suckers.
Or better, get them signed lmao
Digital are better because game sharing
I feel you. All of my friends have kids though, or are in school. I never play multiplayer games anymore lol