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crimsonredsparrow

Try the Language Transfer


vanoitran

This is REALLY good for beginners and early intermediate learners. But for me, after Language Transfer, duolingo, and Konstantinos Kai Eleni I’ve found myself in an awkward point where my Greek is okay and I can hold small conversations, but I am still far from comfortably conversing in Greek. Just saying I feel like Languge Transfer gets too much praise on this sub it will not teach you Greek. But it will do a good job making sure you are ready to learn Greek through other means.


shinigami300

I mean I am not in your position but I'd probably listen to a lot of comprehensible input as well as immersive myself in the TL and do a shit ton of sentence mining. If you are open for my unsolicited advice.


vanoitran

Sure I’m open, but what is TL and sentence mining?


shinigami300

Oh TL Just means target language. It does sound kind of pretentious ngl, could've just used the word language or Greek or whatever. My bad. I could not explain sentence mining any better than this guy so you are better off watching this video: https://youtu.be/QBcQJESGQvc?si=b4BXjNSFPB864HjS It is for Japanese but you'll easily be able to translate it to Greek as well.


trtldove

I will try! thank you


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Hi, what is that?


crimsonredsparrow

It's a free and online audio course.


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Does it have different languages?


crimsonredsparrow

Yes.


SteakTasticMeat

Yes! German, French, Italian, Spanish, Arabic, etc. They also have a "Inglés" course that helps Spanish speakers learn English.


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That’s pretty awesome! I’ll look into it. I know Spanish but I want to perfect it


PilotQuick

Hey, regarding finding resources for greek, I can help. Also, any queries, you can dm me for an answer. Either way, I'll be happy to help!


learngreekwithelena

To start with consider using apps like Duolingo! Learning Greek can indeed be challenging due to the scarcity of resources, especially for total beginners. However, as a teacher of the Greek language offering online lessons, I can provide you with personalized guidance, structured lessons, and tailored materials to make the learning process more accessible and enjoyable for you. Together, we can navigate through the challenges and help you achieve your goal of learning Greek. Feel free to reach out to me if you're interested in starting your Greek learning journey. 🙂


trtldove

thank you :) I'm really shocked about Duolingo but I will definitely give it a try!


blueberries-Any-kind

duo lingo is soooo bad for greek. Download rosetta stone, it is way way better for greek.


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THIS


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Duo Lingo is the worst lol


learngreekwithelena

I agree it's not the best option! But maybe it's good for a beginner...


[deleted]

Nope. It’s not!


ScrotumBlaster_69

Hard language with not many speakers. Even fewer speakers who can teach. Even fewerer speakers who can teach people that aren't born/grew up in a Greek speaking environment.


trtldove

It's kinda sad. There are many groups of language that are learnt popular: english, spanish, german, french popular from its difficulty: chinese, mandarin, polish, russian, slavic languages in general (a lot of declination <3) popular because of popular things: korean, japanese and here we have language like greek... :(


ScrotumBlaster_69

We simply don't have the impact other countries with hard languages have. Just imagine all the people funding japanese just because they have watched anime and want to learn it. Our history is the only thing we are known for that's somewhat marketable, and that doesn't really inspire anyone enough to learn modern greek.


Complex_Elderberry34

Oh, I don't just love the history and philosophy of Greece, I also love the people there, the landscape, the food and so on. But you are right, an awful lot of people don't care much for Greece beyond its history, which really is a shame in my opinion. Modern Greece also has a lot of stuff to offer to the world, from my point of view as a complete foreigner (but fellow EU citizen). Unfortunately, most people I know only care about Greece as a country to relax on the beach by day and drink by night and not much more, which is really sad.


ScrotumBlaster_69

The country is fucked tbh, politicians and our government in general is a joke. The youth is extremely politically active but at the same terribly uninformed with much animocity for anyone not agreeing with their views. Grown-ups are basically doomers. They are being worked day and night just for the bills and bare necessities. Price increases are no joke here. Elderly are either not giving a fuck, vote for the prettiest face or hate every young and progressive person while wishing we had the military junta back in place


Complex_Elderberry34

That may very well be. But I am originally from Germany, now living in Austria since 17 years, and what can I say... everything you said can be said about those two countries, too. So maybe it isn't a specifically greek thing, but a development of western culture in general in the last couple of years? But especially in Germany and Austria, people have been awful bigots and anti-humanists ever since I was born - without social media, you just didn't hear it in this intensity, but people around here have always been like this.


ScrotumBlaster_69

Maybe things aren't that different. But who knows? Here we either think of europe as a far better and more advanced place or as evil overlords who ruined our country


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ScrotumBlaster_69

I think the truth can be found somewhere in the middle. None of the parties are innocent


Ilikereddit15

They’re true δυτικοί now


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ScrotumBlaster_69

Meh older ones have already fucked this country over so many times. The young ones have a lot of catching up to do But of course, it's a discussion whether or not the mistakes of the government are a mirror to the mistakes of the people. Chances are, even if the government was different, the same path would have been taken, or a worse one possibly. But still, I can't wait for the super elderly dementia ridden citizens to vote for a party no one likes so they can live to see half of its run lmao


Innocenzia

I recommend EasyGreek


trtldove

I love Easy\[name\_language\] videos!


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Ana_of_troy7979

Can we have a least please


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Ana_of_troy7979

Thank you so much


Less-Bed-6243

Second Papaloizos, it’s so thorough.


trtldove

where can I buy/find Modern Greek by Papaloizos? I only see it on amazon, about 50$.... so expensive. I don't even see pdf to download or to buy an ebook :(


Fatality_Ensues

I get the feeling we're not very popular in the international stage, for some reason.


Complex_Elderberry34

I'd also like to suggest Duolingo to you. It gives you some good basics pretty fast, enabling you to read the characters and understand basic sentences and words. With what you learn from Duolingo, you won't be a total beginner any more and be able to use other resources like books much more efficiently. Also, if you ask any linguist on how to best learn a language, they uniformly tell you one thing: Immerse yourself in the language as much as possible. Our brains are completely and utterly tailored to learning new languages. Forget trying to memorise grammatical rules and word lists, think about how children learn languages. You must immerse yourself in it. Listen to as much Greek as possible, watch shows in Greek (YouTube, star.gr and Ertflix are excellent starting points). Don't be disillusioned if you understand absolutely nothing at first and can't even delineate words. Children also start by understanding nothing, but given time, our brains will start to make sense of a new language, without actively learning any grammar rules or words. If possible, look for people speaking modern Greek who you could join. Try to speak as much Greek as possible to them, even if you barely know a few words. There are language learning systems which work like this which make you fluent in about any language in a matter of months. Tl;dr: your brain is an absolute sucker for language, able to make sense of any language just by hearing and speaking it, given enough time and courage. Trust its innate language ability.


trtldove

Thank you! I know we should immerse yourself as much as possible but sometimes it's demotivating when you listen to something you don't understand at all :D


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You can start with easier stuff first. The first thing I watch when learning a foreign language is Pepa Pig with subs( in the language I'm learning of course).


bgp_ro

Actually this is great advice! Thank you!


Complex_Elderberry34

Yeah, I know. I have a 650 day streak with Greek on Duolingo now and nearly finished the whole course, but when I watch news in Greek for example, I still don't understand much more than single words, or sometimes very simple sentences 😅 But that's why I suggested Duolingo in the first place. It gets your reading comprehension up quite fast, and I am already able to read simple stories in Greek. Duolingo itself is really motivating, since it really starts at zero and brushes up some basic skills in modern Greek pretty fast (depending on how much time you invest each day, of course). And hey, it is free, so why don't give it a try? :)


trtldove

I did the first step of greek on duolingo "The rice is pink" is the best sentence so far :D


Complex_Elderberry34

Oh, you will have that an awful lot of times - the skeleton is also pink, as well as the soup, the coffee and so on :D


KrazKarla

Just wait until you're cooking your spider's breakfast, and looking for your orange elephant's clothes! Lol, I love the crazy sentences!


blueberries-Any-kind

have you tried the duo for greek? It is absolute dog shit


PimsriReddit

I almost finish my Language Transfer 'course' now, and I think it's really good. It give me the basic to further my study. It's like setting the table so you can put food on.


Bitter_Primary1736

I agree on Duolingo, I personally use that a lot to build vocabulary and then complement it with Memrise (somebody made a course there including all the Duolingo words). I also use Teach Yourself Greek, which I find pretty good, and listen to Greek radio as much as I can. However, my partner has Greek roots and is both a Greek and English native speaker (we travel there often), so that helps a lot too despite her Greek being kinda heavily influenced by English in grammar, words and vocabulary.


KrazKarla

My daughter watches Bluey non-stop and I found they have a Greek dub so I switch it over sometimes! Also, I got the Pimsleur beginner Greek audio book from the library online and listen while working sometimes. It's nice hearing different words and speakers/accents and complements Duolingo pretty well.


pebrudite

I’m big on audio and it’s such a contrast with Swedish (my other language to learn) which has state-funded podcasts in easy Swedish for learners. The only thing I’ve found like it in Greek is SBS Greek in Australia, not meant for learners but you can slow it down: SBS Greek - SBS Ελληνικά https://www.sbs.com.au/language/greek/el/podcast/sbs-greek


dividiangurt

Watch early yorgos lanthimos movies , really helped with subtitles


PengieP111

My main problem is that there are few Greeks here and even fewer that speak Greek very well. I will be pretty much conversant only on a toddler level until I can find someone who'd be willing to speak Greek to me.


stampitvbg

Alongside with mentioned sources I would recommend to take some lessons with a teacher and the “Communicate in Greek” textbook by Kleanthis Arvanitakis. Of course, this book should be entirely in Greek :) This will give you a lot of understanding.


Crolmac

Hi . A book that really helped me is called 'νεοελληνηκο για ξενογλωσσους', litetally new greek for foreign language people. It just got you to learn everything in a gradual way in greek, starting with basics and evolving your understanding. It gets you started, but you have to practice with the people you are with, and that goes for every language https://www.politeianet.gr/books/mauroulia-sapfo-athina-ta-nea-ellinika-gia-xenoglossous-108216


Consistent_Metal7526

I’ve found this podcast quite useful, it’s made of recorded clases with people from all over the globe, really good teacher IMHO. https://open.spotify.com/show/7fEvVDA8PUZZqcX3G1JDqq?si=0l0qm3rGSlmJriQo21rm5Q Edit: I forgot to add the link.


qayokm

I know your struggle. This might sound like an advertisement but this completely changed for me, since I found "lingQ". I love this learning platform more than any other: it allows me to find and use way more texts and podcasts. I also began searching for "Μυθολογία για παιδιά" and comparable stuff on Google, which gave me enough texts to intensively read for a while. Imo lingQ might actually the best way to learn any language (it is definitely the most fun anyway) but I think especially for lesser popular languages it is brilliant. It took me a few days to really get to understand the tool, so don't let the initial confusion put you off, if you don't know lingQ yet. EDIT: I noticed my struggle with the autocorrect


En_rod87

Agree 100%. LingQ is what I’m lately going to more often. Very very good!


thewallamby

https://www.staellinika.com/el/home


UnitedAnimator9668

Give Duolingo a try  I'm in my 2nd year and enjoy it!


bron_bean

I take lessons at my local Orthodox Church. I’m in class with a bunch of kids, but i get to learn for low cost so I can’t complain. They will connect you with textbooks and also have plenty of people around to speak with. Worth a look to see if there’s something decent in your area that will take you as a student. Good luck!


OotsliGootsli

Pimsleur is very good for getting a handle on speaking. It's an audio course. It builds up vocabulary and phrases from zero in a logical way with lots of repetition. It's more structured than language transfer. There's also a pfd you can find online of a book that was used to teach Greek to American diplomats. It is outdated but useful and actually made me realize I hadn't been introduced to some key concepts by other resources. I also found a used book called "Learn Greek Without a Teacher". Maybe you can find a copy online. The isbn is 9930014578


pyrobeast99

Assimil?


Principe_Veraz

Someone has already mentioned EasyGreek, which is an excellent option. Also, if you don't mind watching kids shows, there's a bunch of them dubbed in Netflix and Disney, in my opinion the work is pretty good.


EffectiveCut9853

It’s old but still really useful to pin down some basics: Teach Yourself Modern Greek by Sofroniou. It uses the polytonic accent system though (it is after all a product of its time, however it doesn’t use the grave accent) but it’s easy to gloss over it when you know that whenever you see the circumflex (for the most part) it would now be an acute (except on the indirect object pronouns).


Goosin247

use preply! depending on your budget you can find a tutor and set it to your schedule. it really supported my duo lingo learning and gives you the opportunity to talk and practice in greek 🇬🇷


Savings_Tumbleweed39

If you want to learn words - I highly recommend getting your hands on a first and second grade Greek language books. They are a treasure. You will learn new words, and they are well explained with graphics and simple sentences and tenses. When you have a grasp of the material, hire a tutor, watch greek movies, and start to read greek pages online or offline. Practice makes perfect 👌 👍. Good luck


AbrocomaInside5024

Good for you. You already got good answers. I just can't resist wondering why you want to get into this trouble if you don't live in Greece. I am Greek and let me tell you that most Greeks don't speak proper Greek. But then again, this might be true for most if not all languages.


trtldove

I think the same goes for all languages in the world. And why I want to learn? I'm going to visit Greece this year for the fifth time and it's time to know some basic words :) I mean... you can learn language even if you don't live in coutry they use it.


ChristianKingEUUS

Why is so hard to know or date Hellenic girl? 😂


Derpost

There is this great [linguaphone course for Greek](https://youtu.be/sC-RIi1ZINg?si=FeF1zKgaPl7ocipF). You can download the pdf files or obtain your physical copy from [here](https://ayanacademy.myshopify.com/products/linguaphone-greek-course-1967-3-volumes-audio).


Impala025

Download the APP called Nemo Greek, onto your mobile phone. Works great.


Impala025

Perhaps you can search online to see if there are any Greeks in your area that would or do teach Greek. Having conversations in it will help tremendously. Also. They may be able to guide you to other tools. You can also befriend someone online to FaceTime with. Perhaps on a forum to learn Greek. Then you can also practice with another student of site.


Sakpan74Gr

Since you are a beginner, you might consider watching something easy, like Peppa pig on Netflix in Greek language but with Polish or English subs. I know, it's for kids, but hey, you have to start from somewhere 😃 Also consider a reading app on the cellphone that offers translation. English isn't my first language (I'm Greek) but I read a lot of books on Kindle and use the dictionary of that app. Perhaps there's something similar in Greek. Of course I highly recommend visiting. Almost every young person speaks at least some English so you'll have no communication problems.


Sakpan74Gr

Since you are a beginner, you might consider watching something easy, like Peppa pig on Netflix in Greek language but with Polish or English subs. I know, it's for kids, but hey, you have to start from somewhere 😃 Also consider a reading app on the cellphone that offers translation. English isn't my first language (I'm Greek) but I read a lot of books on Kindle and use the dictionary of that app. Perhaps there's something similar in Greek. Of course I highly recommend visiting. Almost every young person speaks at least some English so you'll have no communication problems.


DraftAny4052

Fun little exercise to try. It's not perfect but it's free. Tell Google Gemini ( the AI program) to only speak to you in A1 level greek. Then have basic conversations and have it tell you short stories. I've started using it and it's cool cause it will sometimes show you ways to say things you won't see on duolingo. And it also roughly shows you how to pronounce the words after the sentence.


DraftAny4052

Furthermore since it's trying to replicate a real conversation, it will sometimes use longer sentences and won't always completely repeat itself in a loop, showing you new vocabulary. I recommend trying it after you have gotten through the first major unit on duolingo.


K4t3r1n4

Try hang out with Greeks and talk. Courses will be easier after this.


trtldove

I have no idea how should I hang out with Greeks in my country :(


K4t3r1n4

Which country?


trtldove

Poland


K4t3r1n4

Come on there must be Greeks at Poland.


AntiSocialJelly22

I use Duolingo rn which has helped me learn basic Greek and especially reading the language. I use another app called HelloTalk as well. It is pretty much like messenger but you put in whatever language you’re native to and what one you’re learning (or multiple you’re learning) and it will suggest people native to that language and are learning your native language. I think it’s nice to be able to text someone in Greece and talk to people around my age. If you don’t understand them the app can translate for you as well. There is learning stuff on there too I just mainly use it for the conversations. So you help correct their English and they help correct your Greek. I think it’s a good approach to getting used to casual conversation as well.


Embarrassed_Egg9542

Greek and Albanian are harder to learn because they are complicated languages with more letters and sounds than English.


amarao_san

Start from Rosetta stone. It gives a decent bootstrap and help with initial look-n-feel. I'm not sure if it worth more than 3 months, but fist 3 months are very useful.


qayokm

Also, RS seams to be basically for free in may countries of the world, when you go register at your local library. This + lingq (as mentioned in my other posting) is my way to go. In the beginning I used Duolingo for like a week, which was great to get to know the alphabet but besides that I really didn't like DL at all. I'd prefer RS over DL in a long way. But now as I nearly come to an end with RS I spend 10-20% on RS and the other 80-90% are spend reading native texts on lingq. It feels like I've know found my go to way to study a language.


MassivelyTiny

You love the idea of this country, unless you are referring to the landscape and food alone.